Jinger is so well spoken! I love how God revealed Himself to you! Relationship, not religion!!! Thank you for sharing!!! I am praying for you and all those experiencing the wildfires.
Another great episode! Jinger really shined in this one.... " We were not arranged, I fought for you" - so sweet. God is going to do so many great things with your podcast!
12:37 When Jeremy calls Jinger "brilliant". I love to see that validation of her critical thinking process and the encouragement of her self growth. I would imagine for someone who grew up with such prescriptive ideology, those small moments of really seeing her is more important than you could ever realize.
"...legalism is easy for those who don't actually gave a relationship with God because it can provide this faux sense of security of their salvation because it's just following a set of rules" YOU NAILED IT Jinger!
The divorce rates are lower in India because there are serious societal and financial impacts for women not being married and especially being divorced. Domestic violence against women is a massive issue in these areas and people are not safe to leave their marriages. I don't think that's something to work towards. While the rising divorce rates in Western culture are disappointing, it also just reflects that our society is becoming more human - things change, people change, and it's okay to move on and find someone new. You don't need to stay somewhere you are unhappy or unsafe. I think its positive.
From a lot of the sociological data that we're now getting, marriage rates are dropping in Western cultures but divorce rates are also dropping. So people who do still chose to get married are a lot more successful in their marriages than over the last several decades. I think we over prescribed marriage through religion as a society not recognizing that not all relationships deserve that level of intimacy. Some relationships help us build our character to become better partners for our future spouses.
In western cultures people are too quick to give up. It's hard sometimes, but marriage is a commitment- not something to be disposed of when times get tough.
This is one of your best podcasts in that you clarify legalism from a true heart desire for holiness. Some people have a true desire for holiness however think legalism is the way to achieve this, you make the difference so clear in this podcast. Good job!
OOooooff 😓 that "going to the wells" conversation at the beginning.... took me right back to "Return of the Daughters" and how we were supposed to be daughters "watering our father's flocks" (their passions, lifes work, calling etc) and that's how our husbands WOULD find us 💔 THE END!!! "I wasn't picked for you; I FOUGHT for you." 👏
Love everything about this! It’s so great to see you both articulate & modernizing the Bible & the love of Jesus but, still in truth. Can see you both have such good hearts. I was raised in a regular, conventional Christian home. However, had a lot of similarities in that of a “fear based” home. Instead of focusing more on a personal relationship with the Lord & leading by example while raising free thinkers. Keep up the great work! Your relationship is precious & reminds much of my husband’s & I. We’ve been married since I was 19 & he 20. Celebrating 30 together, 26 years of marriage & 5 amazing children ranging from ages 23-14yrs old 🥰
Praying for safety, health, and peace during the Cali fires. Hope your house wasn’t harmed, along with your friends. Praying the State of California as a whole.
Great episode! I know God can use this to help people who are struggling with untangling from unbiblical teachings… or…who might be looking for the Bible for practical guidance on clothing, dating, etc. Please keep the videos coming and I’m praying for you both.
"Legalism gives you a false sense of security..." This is so true. Legalism sent me on a downward spiral because I couldn't keep all the rules all the time. And every time I'd break one, I felt condemned anyway. This, and my volatile home life, left me confused and abandoned.
I am always so impressed with how thoughtful, articulate and objective Jinger is during interviews and on her podcast. Jeremy does hsve a tendancy to interupt her however. Other than that, an Excellent episode ❤
This is just an amazing episode! ❤ Love the insight and reminders of amazing scriptures speaking of marriage. I have been blessed with 30 years of marriage and could not be happier!
Jeremy, I really enjoy listening to you, and Jinger I want you to know that your Dad introduced me to Christian life and taught me how to pray. I still watch the show every now and then.
Yes Husband Jeremy, you hit that hammer right on the nail Jinger is so SPOT ON WITH HERE CONVERSATION THOUGHTS ON THIS BEAUTIFUL POD CAST. And it's " Blessed is the Man that walketh not in the ways of the UNGODLY" Not blessed is the man that walketh not with sinner. All have sinned, but WE THAT HAVE RECEIVE THE BLESSED BLOOD OF JESUS APPLIED TO OUR HEART, Recognize the traits of sin that will lead to eternal life of death and choose not to walk in those way as the unsaved would want to do. GOD BLESS YOU BOTH AS YOU GROW IN GRACE AND IN GOD KNOWLEDGE. AS THE POD CAST TAKE US TO HIGHER HEIGHT AND DEEPER DEPTHS IN CHRIST JESUS OUR SAVIOUR AND KING 👑📖🌈🙏
I love your love, your respect, your kindness, your friendship and your commitment to God. Thank you for having these interesting conversations. Have a good day you all 🙏🏽
Love this convo and how you two point back to the main thing. A true relationship with Jesus gives freedom from man-made rules but we shouldn't take advantage of daily grace. Boundaries are good when given from the Holy Spirit.
I find it interesting how different cultures and families talk about important subjects like marriage, faith, and values with their kids. I feel lucky to have grown up in a home where faith played a big role in our lives. My parents taught me that even when life gets tough, having a kind heart and staying connected to God can help guide you to the right path and true love. I've seen this in my own life, as I've been happily married for 15 years. I met my husband when we were both teenagers in high school. We started off as friends and slowly realized that we wanted to be together, get married, have kids, and build a happy life. With our parents' support, we began dating. Over the years, we’ve grown together and are thankful for our two amazing children. I genuinely believe that if you approach life with kindness and keep your faith, things can become easier and more fulfilling. It’s important not to get stuck thinking you have to follow strict rules that some religious groups might suggest about being "good." We don't belong to a specific religion or church; instead, we focus on lessons from the Bible. We believe in God and think our purpose is to help others, learn to be more caring, and practice patience and compassion towards each other.
I loved this topic!!! So important to talk about this… and what I loved also was the grace and the humility that both of you had talking about it. Thank you! May JESUS bless you both and your families, abundantly!!!🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼✝️♥️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Off subject but praying you all are safe from the fires in LA. Praying for all those who have lost their homes and that they can get it under control very soon.
What a great podcast!! I was in my late 30's when i was pursued and my now estranged husband had to get permission from Pastor before moving to the next level.😅 No being alone together,no holding hands until,no hugging until,no kiss until,etc. A lot of legalism. So sad .
Please let us know how you all are doing with the fires! We’re concerned for Jinger and for the baby she is carrying and for all of the smoke in the area! We love you all and we are praying for you! 🙏🩷✝️😢
Thank you for sharing this and the wisdom and discernment God has given you! I wish my parents had taught me this when I was young. My husband and I have learned it and grown together in our 35 years of marriage. We have tried to do this with our kids now. Our youngest just got married this last weekend.
That so right Jinger, the WORD SAYS " WORK OUT YOUR SALVATION" Not others work it out for you. We thank those who have given us a GODLY GUIDELINE but we must then go on TO KNOW GOD FOR OURSELVES AND THE RICHNESS OF GOD LOVE ❤️❤️❤️
I would love to hear you guys talk on drinking alcohol. I grew up Pentecostal and have had alcoholics in our family. I raised my kids to never drink, but they do social drink now as adults. It’s really disappointed me, but I understand that’s between them and God, but I feel it opens those generational doors.
I would so love for you both to listen to Jeff Cavins and Fr Mike Schmitz. I feel like Jeremy, in particular would really be moved by their perspectives.
@ lol introduced for marriage. They only introduce their sisters to people they can marry what do u mean? That’s literally how an arranged marriage works. She become “of age” so unless jimmy bob gave his go, she would never be allowed to go through a courtship with this man ?!
Yeah they were. Introduced for marriage. If jimmy bob did not want this man courting his daughter, it wouldn’t have happened. They only talk to men that are willing to marry them. That’s called an arranged marriage. Delete my comment as many times as you want, it’s called freedom of speech.
Thank you so much for your podcasts!!!!❤❤❤❤ I love how you live for God. I see this in God's fruits in your life. I don't really actually know you but I agree with you 100%.
There's only two things that I truly admire about the duggar's parents. The daughters are just as capable as the sons and courtships. I wish like hell that my life was structured that way and that I didn't do half the stuff I did as a teenager and a young adult.
When it comes to giving parental counsel, there's a saying I stole from Stormie Omartian. "I've said what I need to say now it's time to shut up and pray"
Great podcast! I had a similar upbringing to Jinger and can identify and agree with a number of points you discussed particularly on parents needing to treat their adult children (in particular girls) as adult women and entrusting them to God and trusting the adult child to make sensible life decisions etc.... I'm now 6 months married and am so glad I started to figure out who I was before my now husband came into my life 🙏🙏
Gothard may have especially liked this Single Service Ministry at Headquarters for his own self gain. I feel sick about the stories of the women that have shared about him. I’m a bit older than Jinger’s parents, but raised my kids at the same time. We were a homeschool family. Many of us, although not “Gothard followers” were still impacted negatively by this movement among other names in that community that adhered to rules and legalism. This was a good podcast. Thx, Jinger, for going into some of the details & examples of how you were affected.
Adult children who can't make a simple decision will never survive once their decision making parent dies. They become completely paralysed and can't make the simplest choices, let alone the complex ones. It's a horrible situation that is compounded by their grief. I've seen it time after time. It's both sad and frustrating. 😥
I agree, there is a young girl who's parents passed away when she was 18, she had been home schooled all her life and as an only child was just with her parents all the time, she is book smart but no social experiences at all. She was lost when they both passes away, didn't know how to even clean house, drive a car, ride a lawnmower, nothing. She had to be taught all this after and to this day, now 30 yrs old cant get a job, has gone to college for years, graduated with degree in English, had worked at local library putting books back on shelves since she was 20 and her two aunts pay for her apartment, all her bills, keep her with a car that works, two men I our church taught her to drive. She is pitiful and doesn't even realize it. So sad😢
While chaperones is a bit overboard there is a Biblical principle about not putting yourself in such a situation where sx temptation can lead to sin. So the other extreme and I’ve seen that more in this generation than the others, is that Christian young people think nothing of one night stands and shacking up. Systems do fail, but standards must be maintained. The NT talks a lot about purity. The other end of the coin is having sx with someone you don’t really know because the physical attraction was so strong that the relationship didn’t have time to mature. So there needs to be a balance. Providing activities and settings where young people can have fun in a public setting and getting to know someone in that setting is also important. Churches provide for teens and college age - which is good intermingling - but into the late 20’s and 30’s there is nothing. Also finding out who the other person is spiritually also happens as a surprise after marriage in a physical relationship probably more often than one based on a non-physical relationship involving communication and interacting in a non physical way. So, a balance of trust by a parent but maturity in the couple is essential. And by college age one should have developed that maturity. On the other hand even the military has a system. These are thoughts - not of any order I’ve written down - but off the top of my head. I did head up young adult groups in various places plus I am a parent of 3 adults.
I really love watching you two! I'm 65 and had been raised Catholic and went to Catholic school. I no longer attend a Catholic church but live as a Christian every day. I live by God's word, and I'm sure God's good with it.❤
Doesn't God's word say "unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood you have no life in you". Doesn't God's word also say "those who eat my flesh and drink my blood have eternal life and I will raise them up on the last day".? Jesus said to his Apostles "those who hear you hear me". The Apostles were the first bishops of the Church. Jesus also said to his Apistles "what you bind here on earth will be bound in heaven what you loose here on earth will be loose in heaven". He gave his Apostles authority to forgive sins "those whose sins you have forgiven they are forgiven, those whose sins you have retained they are retained". Here Christ instituted the sacrament of reconciliation/confession. Jesus said we must be born of water and the spirit to be saved, this is baptism. Living by God's word means accepting the authority of the Church which Jesus gave to his Apostles and their successors by the laying on of hands through the centuries. And also by abiding by the Sacraments which Christ instituted to keep us close to him and to heal us just as he did when he walked tge earth.
You dont know your catholic religion fully or your wouldn't be saying this and you wouldn't leave your catholic faith. Really learn the church before you just walk away. Go to an RCIA class whether you return to the catholic faith you will at least know the catholic faith, then make your choice❤
The main reason for Arranged Marriage or the next step is to at least do Chaperoned Courting. Is to protect women from unscrupulous men. I like the way the Duggars courted because it makes the. man work for it. To prove himself. This gives the girl a chance to make sure she is interested. If Ladies date then they become contaminated.. Women are vulnerable and tend not to be discriminating. Frankly you should both know that you were both protected. Love how you all kept your purity. This is Gods way. As far as meeting at the well in the ancient times. It's not that they had any real association. They just saw some Lady and observed them and then would go to the father for acceptance. That was only one way to get a wife. But back then there was no divorce. People remained committed no matter who they married. Times are different now. So it's very good you had such protection of courting. This way you really got to know each other before giving your heart away to someone you decided you did not want to marry. God made the right arrangement for you. You should be grateful. But some of the other things The problem is Gothard was a hypocrite and changed things to his whims. But the basic principles were correct.
It seems in some ways Jim Bob dod that when he had to know the young man first and had to answer many questions then Jim Bob decided if he was a good for his daughter. At least that is what it looked like when watching the show
There are so many things wrong with courtship chaperones. Having other people around creates a dynamic that prevents one on one relatiionship building and parents are involvement is way over the top.
❄️❄️Great video... I've always wondered how Jingers strict parents approved her to court and marry Jeremy because he would be so "liberal" according to how they live their strict life legalism. Would they have talked about this subject before approving. (
Interesting to contemplate the culture of India. I think our American/European culture concerning marriage & family has gotten so tremendously screwed up that we can’t even fully see how severely we’ve fallen from God’s best design for us in love, marriage, & family. It’s sad. Then comes Gothard, and the pendulum swings from one extreme to the other. Kinda the way the Evil One works, huh?
Jinger is so well spoken! I love how God revealed Himself to you! Relationship, not religion!!! Thank you for sharing!!! I am praying for you and all those experiencing the wildfires.
Another great episode! Jinger really shined in this one.... " We were not arranged, I fought for you" - so sweet. God is going to do so many great things with your podcast!
12:37 When Jeremy calls Jinger "brilliant". I love to see that validation of her critical thinking process and the encouragement of her self growth. I would imagine for someone who grew up with such prescriptive ideology, those small moments of really seeing her is more important than you could ever realize.
"...legalism is easy for those who don't actually gave a relationship with God because it can provide this faux sense of security of their salvation because it's just following a set of rules"
YOU NAILED IT Jinger!
The divorce rates are lower in India because there are serious societal and financial impacts for women not being married and especially being divorced. Domestic violence against women is a massive issue in these areas and people are not safe to leave their marriages. I don't think that's something to work towards. While the rising divorce rates in Western culture are disappointing, it also just reflects that our society is becoming more human - things change, people change, and it's okay to move on and find someone new. You don't need to stay somewhere you are unhappy or unsafe. I think its positive.
exactly. arranged marriages are not all good.
From a lot of the sociological data that we're now getting, marriage rates are dropping in Western cultures but divorce rates are also dropping. So people who do still chose to get married are a lot more successful in their marriages than over the last several decades. I think we over prescribed marriage through religion as a society not recognizing that not all relationships deserve that level of intimacy. Some relationships help us build our character to become better partners for our future spouses.
Came here to say this. Thanks for pointing this out.
In western cultures people are too quick to give up. It's hard sometimes, but marriage is a commitment- not something to be disposed of when times get tough.
THANK YOU. I'm pleasantly surprised to see someone speak up and not just accept what he says.
Jinger did a phenomenal job of speaking and sounding so articulate in this podcast! Great job 🙂
If parents have done their jobs raising their children then there is NO need for their involvement in the courting process.
That wouldn't be wise. We know that wisdom comes with many counsellors and parents are aware of us in ways we have yet to learn in many situations.
@@mktay2067Agreed!
This is one of your best podcasts in that you clarify legalism from a true heart desire for holiness. Some people have a true desire for holiness however think legalism is the way to achieve this, you make the difference so clear in this podcast. Good job!
OOooooff 😓 that "going to the wells" conversation at the beginning.... took me right back to "Return of the Daughters" and how we were supposed to be daughters "watering our father's flocks" (their passions, lifes work, calling etc) and that's how our husbands WOULD find us 💔
THE END!!! "I wasn't picked for you; I FOUGHT for you." 👏
Hope your family and your home are safe from the fires going on in LA. Praying ❤️
Love everything about this! It’s so great to see you both articulate & modernizing the Bible & the love of Jesus but, still in truth. Can see you both have such good hearts. I was raised in a regular, conventional Christian home. However, had a lot of similarities in that of a “fear based” home. Instead of focusing more on a personal relationship with the Lord & leading by example while raising free thinkers. Keep up the great work! Your relationship is precious & reminds much of my husband’s & I. We’ve been married since I was 19 & he 20. Celebrating 30 together, 26 years of marriage & 5 amazing children ranging from ages 23-14yrs old 🥰
I was glad to hear from you guys today. Hope you're not affected by the wildfires!
Praying for safety, health, and peace during the Cali fires. Hope your house wasn’t harmed, along with your friends. Praying the State of California as a whole.
Sending prayers to everyone 🙏🙏🙏
Prayers that you all are safe with the wildfires in CA.
Great episode! I know God can use this to help people who are struggling with untangling from
unbiblical teachings… or…who might be looking for the Bible for practical guidance on clothing, dating, etc. Please keep the videos coming and I’m praying for you both.
"Legalism gives you a false sense of security..." This is so true. Legalism sent me on a downward spiral because I couldn't keep all the rules all the time. And every time I'd break one, I felt condemned anyway. This, and my volatile home life, left me confused and abandoned.
I am always so impressed with how thoughtful, articulate and objective Jinger is during interviews and on her podcast. Jeremy does hsve a tendancy to interupt her however. Other than that, an Excellent episode ❤
Jeremy makes so much sense when it comes to finding a spouse according to the Bible.
I’m so happy to catch you live!! I really love to listen to you both, not a lot a people talking about god and jesus these days…
This is just an amazing episode! ❤ Love the insight and reminders of amazing scriptures speaking of marriage. I have been blessed with 30 years of marriage and could not be happier!
Jeremy, I really enjoy listening to you, and Jinger I want you to know that your Dad introduced me to Christian life and taught me how to pray. I still watch the show every now and then.
Yes Husband Jeremy, you hit that hammer right on the nail Jinger is so SPOT ON WITH HERE CONVERSATION THOUGHTS ON THIS BEAUTIFUL POD CAST.
And it's " Blessed is the Man that walketh not in the ways of the UNGODLY"
Not blessed is the man that walketh not with sinner.
All have sinned, but WE THAT HAVE RECEIVE THE BLESSED BLOOD OF JESUS APPLIED TO OUR HEART, Recognize the traits of sin that will lead to eternal life of death and choose not to walk in those way as the unsaved would want to do.
GOD BLESS YOU BOTH AS YOU GROW IN GRACE AND IN GOD KNOWLEDGE. AS THE POD CAST TAKE US TO HIGHER HEIGHT AND DEEPER DEPTHS IN CHRIST JESUS OUR SAVIOUR AND KING 👑📖🌈🙏
I love your love, your respect, your kindness, your friendship and your commitment to God. Thank you for having these interesting conversations. Have a good day you all 🙏🏽
I really enjoy your relationship and this podcast. Something i notice, is that Jeremy try to let Jinger finish thoughts before you insert yours.
Love this convo and how you two point back to the main thing. A true relationship with Jesus gives freedom from man-made rules but we shouldn't take advantage of daily grace. Boundaries are good when given from the Holy Spirit.
I find it interesting how different cultures and families talk about important subjects like marriage, faith, and values with their kids. I feel lucky to have grown up in a home where faith played a big role in our lives. My parents taught me that even when life gets tough, having a kind heart and staying connected to God can help guide you to the right path and true love. I've seen this in my own life, as I've been happily married for 15 years.
I met my husband when we were both teenagers in high school. We started off as friends and slowly realized that we wanted to be together, get married, have kids, and build a happy life. With our parents' support, we began dating. Over the years, we’ve grown together and are thankful for our two amazing children.
I genuinely believe that if you approach life with kindness and keep your faith, things can become easier and more fulfilling. It’s important not to get stuck thinking you have to follow strict rules that some religious groups might suggest about being "good." We don't belong to a specific religion or church; instead, we focus on lessons from the Bible. We believe in God and think our purpose is to help others, learn to be more caring, and practice patience and compassion towards each other.
Thank you both. The topic was needed to be discussed and explained. Great job.
my favorite podcast of your
podcasts so far … I love how you explore together, respectfully, with deep reflection in real time.
Thank you ✨🙏✨
Enjoy listening to your podcast. Been following Jinger for years and her last book was wonderful. Can't wait to read the next one.
Great episode! Prayers for you both during these horrific fires. I hope you guys get through all this okay.
I loved this topic!!! So important to talk about this… and what I loved also was the grace and the humility that both of you had talking about it. Thank you! May JESUS bless you both and your families, abundantly!!!🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼✝️♥️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Aww! Love you guys! You guys are a great couple! Jinger I am so happy for you that you got out of that toxic way of teaching. 🙏😊
Off subject but praying you all are safe from the fires in LA. Praying for all those who have lost their homes and that they can get it under control very soon.
I like your biblical interpretation towards systems.❤❤
I wouldnt say it was arranged jessa and ben introduced them each other
This was so well done! Thank you for sharing your hearts and speaking truth each week!
Jinger your message is amazing to witness!
God has given you so much wisdom Jinger! You both are such a beautiful couple. So Blessed❤
Thinking of you guys there in LA. Stay safe!! Praying for you!! 🙏
What a great podcast!!!! Thank you for blessing others!!!!❤❤❤
I loved how much more lovey dovey yall were compared to your siblings courtships
What a great podcast!! I was in my late 30's when i was pursued and my now estranged husband had to get permission from Pastor before moving to the next level.😅 No being alone together,no holding hands until,no hugging until,no kiss until,etc. A lot of legalism. So sad .
Please let us know how you all are doing with the fires! We’re concerned for Jinger and for the baby she is carrying and for all of the smoke in the area!
We love you all and we are praying for you! 🙏🩷✝️😢
Jeremy has such great understanding and wisdom!
Great job , you are together and will remain together by choice and love ❤
Thank you for sharing, very well explained on living in this.world in relationship with God. Very insightful.
A plant would be lovely in that corner. Maybe a table with a plant. or tall faux ficus! Love you guys can’t wait to hear your next episode every week!
Thank you for sharing this and the wisdom and discernment God has given you! I wish my parents had taught me this when I was young. My husband and I have learned it and grown together in our 35 years of marriage. We have tried to do this with our kids now. Our youngest just got married this last weekend.
Excellent episode! Really enjoyed it. Thanks!!!
That so right Jinger, the WORD SAYS " WORK OUT YOUR SALVATION" Not others work it out for you.
We thank those who have given us a GODLY GUIDELINE but we must then go on TO KNOW GOD FOR OURSELVES AND THE RICHNESS OF GOD LOVE ❤️❤️❤️
That's where the holy Spirit comes in,not leaning on our own understanding.
What a beautiful, healthy and very well articulated, conversation!
Great show. Truly loved this episode. 💙💜
I would love to hear you guys talk on drinking alcohol. I grew up Pentecostal and have had alcoholics in our family. I raised my kids to never drink, but they do social drink now as adults. It’s really disappointed me, but I understand that’s between them and God, but I feel it opens those generational doors.
I know that must be hard but I would say trust that you raised good wise kids❤I will have a social drink on occasion but never drink to excess❤
The story about the father communicating with the man for a year before the guy could date his daughter is Jill and Derick, isn't it?
Love you guys. I hope your home is safe from those terrible fires.
I would so love for you both to listen to Jeff Cavins and Fr Mike Schmitz. I feel like Jeremy, in particular would really be moved by their perspectives.
For me it would be Father David - a brilliant, kind, good man, an Episcopal priest. His understanding of true Christianity is profound.
Well was it? I remember watching your courtship and it seems a bit of arranged but you both liked eachother and were happy to go ahead with it.
They have said in the past that it wasn't arranged
Right.. like we grew up watching them and recall it was very arranged like..
No, it wasn't arranged by their parents. They were introduced by Ben and Jessa.
@ lol introduced for marriage. They only introduce their sisters to people they can marry what do u mean? That’s literally how an arranged marriage works. She become “of age” so unless jimmy bob gave his go, she would never be allowed to go through a courtship with this man ?!
Yeah they were. Introduced for marriage. If jimmy bob did not want this man courting his daughter, it wouldn’t have happened. They only talk to men that are willing to marry them. That’s called an arranged marriage. Delete my comment as many times as you want, it’s called freedom of speech.
This was a great one!!!!!
you two are awsome. loved this video today and thank you!!
Thank you so much for your podcasts!!!!❤❤❤❤ I love how you live for God. I see this in God's fruits in your life. I don't really actually know you but I agree with you 100%.
There's only two things that I truly admire about the duggar's parents. The daughters are just as capable as the sons and courtships. I wish like hell that my life was structured that way and that I didn't do half the stuff I did as a teenager and a young adult.
Why did Jinger's family have a problem with him going to the gym?
I bet it's because people don't wear a lot of clothes at the gym... too much temptation looking at women in yoga pants and sports bras. 👀👀
Yes! I’ve seen footage of Michele at the gym.
Because he might see a half naked lady.
Yes, because he might see a half naked lady and be tempted.
When it comes to giving parental counsel, there's a saying I stole from Stormie Omartian. "I've said what I need to say now it's time to shut up and pray"
Thank you for up ending the umbrella as not being scriptural.
Came on to ask how you guys are doing with the fires?! Praying for you guys and your community!!
I have never heard of a “dating “ talk like this !
That was informative and said with such CLASS ❤🙏🏼🫶🏼💗
Very Good Podcast!
Great podcast! I had a similar upbringing to Jinger and can identify and agree with a number of points you discussed particularly on parents needing to treat their adult children (in particular girls) as adult women and entrusting them to God and trusting the adult child to make sensible life decisions etc.... I'm now 6 months married and am so glad I started to figure out who I was before my now husband came into my life 🙏🙏
Look into the Barna foundations stats on divorce. Very eye opening.
I met my husband of 32 yrs through my twin sister and his sister they were friends and we went out on a blind date and been together ever since
Awesome. New viewer great job
Did the girls your brothers wanted a relationship with in your family have to go through Jim Bob and answer all the questions the guys had to answer
Curious…what is wrong with going to the gym?
Nothing, but at the time Jinger was taught that immodest sexy people are at the gym so don’t go there.
Gothard may have especially liked this Single Service Ministry at Headquarters for his own self gain. I feel sick about the stories of the women that have shared about him.
I’m a bit older than Jinger’s parents, but raised my kids at the same time. We were a homeschool family. Many of us, although not “Gothard followers” were still impacted negatively by this movement among other names in that community that adhered to rules and legalism.
This was a good podcast. Thx, Jinger, for going into some of the details & examples of how you were affected.
Wonder if Hana felt that way, when jinger was talking about how a woman has to guard their heart. I mean Jana, seems she kinda was like that.
I love this podcast!!
Is the waiting what your sister Jana did? So happy she found the perfect match❤
Adult children who can't make a simple decision will never survive once their decision making parent dies. They become completely paralysed and can't make the simplest choices, let alone the complex ones. It's a horrible situation that is compounded by their grief. I've seen it time after time. It's both sad and frustrating. 😥
I agree, there is a young girl who's parents passed away when she was 18, she had been home schooled all her life and as an only child was just with her parents all the time, she is book smart but no social experiences at all. She was lost when they both passes away, didn't know how to even clean house, drive a car, ride a lawnmower, nothing. She had to be taught all this after and to this day, now 30 yrs old cant get a job, has gone to college for years, graduated with degree in English, had worked at local library putting books back on shelves since she was 20 and her two aunts pay for her apartment, all her bills, keep her with a car that works, two men I our church taught her to drive. She is pitiful and doesn't even realize it. So sad😢
I never understood how a man who was never married or had children conned so many people!
At minute 33, I think Jeremy is talking about Dale Partridge. Thanks, Jeremy for calling this out !
Does Jim Bob and Michelle still follow Gothard teachings
Awww ☺️🥹 41:08 ok Jeremy! You made me 🥹 because my husband had to do the same
It’s simple: Jeremiah 29:11 speaks of God’s plans for individuals compared to the leader of the IBLP deciding everyone’s future.
J&J please consider getting a moderator. These spam comments are out of control. Just a suggestion. I do enjoy reading all the honorable comments.
Great conversation
I hope you are okay with the fires in LA. Praying for your family. please let us know you are okay.
While chaperones is a bit overboard there is a Biblical principle about not putting yourself in such a situation where sx temptation can lead to sin. So the other extreme and I’ve seen that more in this generation than the others, is that Christian young people think nothing of one night stands and shacking up.
Systems do fail, but standards must be maintained. The NT talks a lot about purity. The other end of the coin is having sx with someone you don’t really know because the physical attraction was so strong that the relationship didn’t have time to mature.
So there needs to be a balance.
Providing activities and settings where young people can have fun in a public setting and getting to know someone in that setting is also important. Churches provide for teens and college age - which is good intermingling - but into the late 20’s and 30’s there is nothing.
Also finding out who the other person is spiritually also happens as a surprise after marriage in a physical relationship probably more often than one based on a non-physical relationship involving communication and interacting in a non physical way.
So, a balance of trust by a parent but maturity in the couple is essential.
And by college age one should have developed that maturity.
On the other hand even the military has a system.
These are thoughts - not of any order I’ve written down - but off the top of my head.
I did head up young adult groups in various places plus I am a parent of 3 adults.
You guys are awesome.
I hope you and your family are safe. ❤❤❤❤❤
I really love watching you two! I'm 65 and had been raised Catholic and went to Catholic school. I no longer attend a Catholic church but live as a Christian every day. I live by God's word, and I'm sure God's good with it.❤
Doesn't God's word say "unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood you have no life in you".
Doesn't God's word also say "those who eat my flesh and drink my blood have eternal life and I will raise them up on the last day".?
Jesus said to his Apostles "those who hear you hear me". The Apostles were the first bishops of the Church.
Jesus also said to his Apistles "what you bind here on earth will be bound in heaven what you loose here on earth will be loose in heaven".
He gave his Apostles authority to forgive sins "those whose sins you have forgiven they are forgiven, those whose sins you have retained they are retained". Here Christ instituted the sacrament of reconciliation/confession.
Jesus said we must be born of water and the spirit to be saved, this is baptism.
Living by God's word means accepting the authority of the Church which Jesus gave to his Apostles and their successors by the laying on of hands through the centuries. And also by abiding by the Sacraments which Christ instituted to keep us close to him and to heal us just as he did when he walked tge earth.
You dont know your catholic religion fully or your wouldn't be saying this and you wouldn't leave your catholic faith. Really learn the church before you just walk away. Go to an RCIA class whether you return to the catholic faith you will at least know the catholic faith, then make your choice❤
Yes God is happy you are living his word if you really are
The main reason for Arranged Marriage or the next step is to at least do Chaperoned Courting. Is to protect women from unscrupulous men. I like the way the Duggars courted because it makes the. man work for it. To prove himself. This gives the girl a chance to make sure she is interested. If Ladies date then they become contaminated.. Women are vulnerable and tend not to be discriminating. Frankly you should both know that you were both protected. Love how you all kept your purity. This is Gods way.
As far as meeting at the well in the ancient times. It's not that they had any real association. They just saw some Lady and observed them and then would go to the father for acceptance. That was only one way to get a wife. But back then there was no divorce. People remained committed no matter who they married. Times are different now. So it's very good you had such protection of courting. This way you really got to know each other before giving your heart away to someone you decided you did not want to marry. God made the right arrangement for you. You should be grateful. But some of the other things The problem is Gothard was a hypocrite and changed things to his whims. But the basic principles were correct.
Hope ya’ ll are not in the path of the fires!!!!!!! Stay safe!
It seems in some ways Jim Bob dod that when he had to know the young man first and had to answer many questions then Jim Bob decided if he was a good for his daughter. At least that is what it looked like when watching the show
There are so many things wrong with courtship chaperones. Having other people around creates a dynamic that prevents one on one relatiionship building and parents are involvement is way over the top.
Jinger is right about it.
❄️❄️Great video... I've always wondered how Jingers strict parents approved her to court and marry Jeremy because he would be so "liberal" according to how they live their strict life legalism. Would they have talked about this subject before approving. (
Interesting to contemplate the culture of India. I think our American/European culture concerning marriage & family has gotten so tremendously screwed up that we can’t even fully see how severely we’ve fallen from God’s best design for us in love, marriage, & family. It’s sad. Then comes Gothard, and the pendulum swings from one extreme to the other. Kinda the way the Evil One works, huh?
What I know from the Bible is do not be unequally yoked and abstain from sexual immorality.
Was Jana committed to this single service arrangement?