Should've been 'How Griffin beat KingZone'. SKT right now has a lot of internal problems that it's really not surprising if they lost to a lower tier team, let alone to Griffin.
Really good analysis. I think most people overlook pro plays. Many decisions/thought processes are made within that split seconds. And it's very easy to overlook.
Too bad Griffin is still ranked #1 and KT rolster is #4 KT Rolster just has a style that just kind of naturally counters Griffin. And even so Griffin made some huge changes in their second game and if a few things went the other way, griffin walks out of that game for a game 3 to decide.
Griff smokes them next go round' Unless something else crazy changes in future patches. but, Riot should be taking it pretty easy in patches from now to pre worlds patches.
Even though Griffin lost to KT yesterday, I really think once they get used to the LCK stage, learn to shake off a loss, they'll become a monstrous powerhouse.
I thought EU came up with the Kaisa funnel strat since Korea were using Yi or Karthus and Fnatic played it first week and G2 played it week 2 and week 3. G2 brought out the Braun jungle pick in week 2. Though the funnel strat originated in Korea, it does look like Kaisa funnel is looking to be the more optimum funnel strategy now.
You know, it's things like this that really showcase what I like about this meta. The AD carry is a real team choice, and the strength of marksmen late game requires a lot of investment in safety and ensuring a stable early game to make up for it. I feel like, while a menace in solo queue and probably needs a little off her passive burst, marksmen should behave like this in professional, and this is balance for the class.
They are a team that played Challenger for 2 years. They changed their roster this season and went 16-0 in Challengers Spring and Promotion, and until today they were also undefeated in LCK. They are kind of like a korean Origen, a strong, fastrising Challengerteam, but they are even more impressive because not one of their players has LCK experience (their Toplaner played in the TCL for one year, but thats about it) and their new Midlaner, Chovy, is seventeen...let that sink in for a moment.
It's sad to see SKT struggle, but to be fair they deserve every bit of it. They have been subpar or even the Keith equivalent of a Jungler/Top. Yet the changes they made this season was to get a Mid laner that has been rejected by every region "Pirean" and a new ADC in Leo. It is fine to get a new young adc to develop him; but the mid signing? Blank really needs to step up, he has shown promise; but 2-3 times per season is not enough.
Raba sia did you not listen to what Zirene said about “Kai’sa could not have lived in these fights alone, her supporting teammates found the right opportunities at the right time”? Lol
few champions can perform to the level of safety kaisa has it's vayne on steroids most of the time honestly adcs with proper support are the worst to play against thats why you don't see funneling strats for vlad or kassadin or cassiopeia because those champions explode on impact
Maybe just mention the impact kaisa as a champ being stronger and thr way gold funneling works. She had 4k plus healt incl shields and sh ehad more items. No wonder she couldn't die
it's not forced at all. Kaisa is an ADC, and they won. Plenty of games are won at the helm of an ADC. even an ADC thats played Bot lane in the traditional ADC role. Stop pretending like the meta has been fleshed out and defined already. there are some teams playing all sorts of diff strats and finding wins. Everyone is playing what they think is best for them. And thats how the game should be played. It shouldn't be that one specific setup is the perfect way to play and then everyone just practices how to be the best at that one way. Thats what was making watching League get stale. and A LOT of ppl claimed that this past summer split. This year, Riot wanted to fix that and mix things up. and they succeeded. Just because SKT is one of the many teams thats struggling to figure out how to best play this meta for their team, doesn't mean the meta is bad. It means those players and coaching staff are not adjusting to the change quickly enough. i'm sure once SKT and all the other teams figure out how to best play their game, they'll be playing much better.
matter of time they will fall where they belong we already saw these teams with rookies winning beating everyone and then start losing just because teams have more exp. players
What’s with this useless breakdown, not offending the breakdown nor SKT. Currently SKT are having a chaotic mess with their roster, seeing them lose to Griffin or KZ is seemingly obvious. Why not KT beat Griffin or Griffin beat KZ.
He was trying to get dmg out with a q to heal full before w and e. It's standard vladimir. his w would have only served to make him escape and not engage with his 4 man ulti, which would then make his entire engage useless. The only thing he could have done was not get hit by braum q, anything else would have only resulted in the same thing, him backing off with w , which means he can't re enter the fight because kaisa can 1 shot him without his key survival ability. Also, that stun went off so ridiculously fast, even the best of the best would struggle to react to it
sacha Kovacevic Shouldve flashed it and into the enemy team, E then pooled, not even risking a Q. This slows the whole enemy team, gives Yasuo a path to Kaisa and ensures Bang gets good damage off while having the opportunity to Zhonya if Kaisa turns on him. I guess theres still Lulu wild growth but its duration isnt long enough for it to matter that much.
doesn't clear a path for anything, they are still grouped and able to counter yasuo so he wouldn't be able to get to kaisa, and either way kai'sa has qss still so it's pointless for faker to try knock her up unless it's popped. Also, he got stunned so fast that by the time he would have flashed and then w'd , he'd still be stunned. Team fight was lost because of his positioning in all situations imo
I love how Zirene really reaaaaally breaks it down to the minimum detail. Excelent work, loved it!
I live for these
shashank nerurkar I really wish they would make more breakdowns
Should've been 'How Griffin beat KingZone'. SKT right now has a lot of internal problems that it's really not surprising if they lost to a lower tier team, let alone to Griffin.
‘Lower tier team’ Griffin only has one lost so far :/
Pyro mancer I don't think you understand the usage of the phrase "let alone".
tbf grf was down 9k before this lmao
@@yukhangtan9668 Learn some basics man.
Bang ate those winters bites like crazy. Got a brain freeze and lost
XD
Really good analysis. I think most people overlook pro plays. Many decisions/thought processes are made within that split seconds. And it's very easy to overlook.
And the Next episode will be
"How KT beat the undefeated Griffin" Kappa
Too bad Griffin is still ranked #1 and KT rolster is #4
KT Rolster just has a style that just kind of naturally counters Griffin. And even so Griffin made some huge changes in their second game and if a few things went the other way, griffin walks out of that game for a game 3 to decide.
Exactly mate. But still Props to KT they won that series.
Griff smokes them next go round' Unless something else crazy changes in future patches. but, Riot should be taking it pretty easy in patches from now to pre worlds patches.
Mark lopez and then “how skt reverse swept kt”
Nerf. Gold. Funneling. Strats. Thanks.
My day is complete thanks Zirene!
Wow, didnt know that Viper and Tarzaned both played in LCK
Also Deftly and matt lck has a lot Na imports :0
I hope you're trolling
not Viper the Riven main...pretty sure he's on Team Liquid Academy
whoooosh
Flartz whoooosh
Best format on TH-cam so far
1. PLEASE make more of these Zirene and co.
2. PLEASE release the music for the breakdown as it is epic!
Even though Griffin lost to KT yesterday, I really think once they get used to the LCK stage, learn to shake off a loss, they'll become a monstrous powerhouse.
The counterplay against the Kai'sa is astounding. Look at everything SKT could do against it! /s
I thought EU came up with the Kaisa funnel strat since Korea were using Yi or Karthus and Fnatic played it first week and G2 played it week 2 and week 3. G2 brought out the Braun jungle pick in week 2.
Though the funnel strat originated in Korea, it does look like Kaisa funnel is looking to be the more optimum funnel strategy now.
Because a 500 CS Kaisa and selling 2 barons and 2 infernal dragons makes it easy for a 1v5.
Iker Saiz cs advantage of kaisa isn’t the decisive factor at all. Foremost, it was about the huge mistake of particular SKT player in teamfight.
Noone:
Jatt: "Chavy"
You know, it's things like this that really showcase what I like about this meta. The AD carry is a real team choice, and the strength of marksmen late game requires a lot of investment in safety and ensuring a stable early game to make up for it. I feel like, while a menace in solo queue and probably needs a little off her passive burst, marksmen should behave like this in professional, and this is balance for the class.
i love these videos so much
Griffin is such a beast team
shashank nerurkar are they a new formed team or just changed their name?
Jame Pak I believe they're new
They are a team that played Challenger for 2 years. They changed their roster this season and went 16-0 in Challengers Spring and Promotion, and until today they were also undefeated in LCK. They are kind of like a korean Origen, a strong, fastrising Challengerteam, but they are even more impressive because not one of their players has LCK experience (their Toplaner played in the TCL for one year, but thats about it) and their new Midlaner, Chovy, is seventeen...let that sink in for a moment.
yea pretty much solo q gods deciding to form a Team
notice griffin has old roster they used to ? or it just me noticed
It's sad to see SKT struggle, but to be fair they deserve every bit of it. They have been subpar or even the Keith equivalent of a Jungler/Top. Yet the changes they made this season was to get a Mid laner that has been rejected by every region "Pirean" and a new ADC in Leo. It is fine to get a new young adc to develop him; but the mid signing? Blank really needs to step up, he has shown promise; but 2-3 times per season is not enough.
love this videos
Love these videos
They were not prepared for the funnel strats.
Kai'sa is ... Balanced. >.
Saw this on live! ^:D^
I don't get why teams aren't banning Lehends' Shen, he's honestly such a beast with it
that's a throw the old SKT used to make the other team do.
Can someone explain to me what was the plan with delaying Mundo's death? Zirene went over it so fast...
Poichiche1996 Delaying Mundo's death means more time for SKT to engage in 4v5 .
Blank plays like Annie... at the back lane most of the time with a champion that initiate fights. Also can’t think of other direction to engage.
Easy comeback bc of Kaisa... she can 1v9 alone lol.
Raba sia did you not listen to what Zirene said about “Kai’sa could not have lived in these fights alone, her supporting teammates found the right opportunities at the right time”? Lol
Daniel Campos Yeah i'm not deaf. But as a champion, you can't say that she can't 1vs9 with full build or less , just check Perkz game vs schalke.
Maybe cause G2 was 12k gold up at 22 min, but whatever, cry about Kaisa and not G2's superior macro play.
FBI Doing "funneling" 2vs1 in a line is a macro play ? Ur so funny.
few champions can perform to the level of safety kaisa has
it's vayne on steroids most of the time
honestly adcs with proper support are the worst to play against
thats why you don't see funneling strats for vlad or kassadin or cassiopeia
because those champions explode on impact
I would have mentioned the double infernal drakes
*Looking back*
Maybe just mention the impact kaisa as a champ being stronger and thr way gold funneling works. She had 4k plus healt incl shields and sh ehad more items. No wonder she couldn't die
Best content!
tarzan mvp with those winters bites tho
Nice meta Riot, the team with the lead loses because of Kaisa and gold funneling.
ikbal Serrai The team with the lead loses because they can't close the game with mid game power comp and let enemy's carry get 6 item, that it's!
Better team wins.
YAAAAASSSSSSSSS!!!!!!
LEHENDS POGGERS
Simply put, SKT needs to learn how to use Marksmen effectively again...
I thought u have to qss and flash to get out of a knock up not just qss
If a team
Has kaisa in the pro scene it is basically a time bomb they can be super behind but come back at some point
Alex Smith so like every adc ever?
Joshua Joseph talking meta marksmen, crit is bad atm, everything else spikes mid game, so kai’sa is basically the late game god
This video literally just shows why kai sa needs a hard nerf
Super Lucian from Perkz would have been the better showcase.
League of Lehends :) what a great support player
SKT IS BACK!!!
Amen skt is back to losing?
Bubbleboy ever heard of sarcasm? *whooosh*
How KT dismantled Griffin would be better
Do kt x grf
Tarzan has aimhack.
wow skt have really fallen down so hard from where they were and it all started after bengi left they need bengi again to reclaim their former glory
Wow... Griffon is crazy
So they just abused kaisa?
Griffin will go to worlds, mark my words!
You mean comment?
will be difficult. they have no champion circuit points from spring so they have to win lck summer or the regionals. definitly possible but difficult.
Griffin won't go to worlds, mark my words!
So griffin won cuz kai'sa id balanced... seems legit.
what a mistery solved by riot games, thanks without you i would've never knew why they won, wow
Its flash taunt tho
GG
LEHENDDSSS
The way Zirene is pronouncing LeHENDS sounds really weird. And also Chovy
Wingsaber
Agreed
This mean only 1 thing kaisa ¨broken¨
Just sad how riot keeps nerfing all the viable ADCs left, so we are forced to have comps like SKT where there is no siege at all
SteelShotRF Not true they chose Vlad and Yas for the early spikes to try and control Kai’sa not because they mistook it for solo Q
Adcs are still viable, if you look at NA they don’t play weird bot lanes, NA only plays standard
it's not forced at all. Kaisa is an ADC, and they won. Plenty of games are won at the helm of an ADC. even an ADC thats played Bot lane in the traditional ADC role. Stop pretending like the meta has been fleshed out and defined already. there are some teams playing all sorts of diff strats and finding wins. Everyone is playing what they think is best for them. And thats how the game should be played. It shouldn't be that one specific setup is the perfect way to play and then everyone just practices how to be the best at that one way. Thats what was making watching League get stale. and A LOT of ppl claimed that this past summer split. This year, Riot wanted to fix that and mix things up. and they succeeded. Just because SKT is one of the many teams thats struggling to figure out how to best play this meta for their team, doesn't mean the meta is bad. It means those players and coaching staff are not adjusting to the change quickly enough. i'm sure once SKT and all the other teams figure out how to best play their game, they'll be playing much better.
siege sure is fun
I read how griffith beat... then I click on the video thinking it said how griffith beat Guts😅
Support Q real mvp
huni left skt. thats why
sooooooooooooooo they picked kaisa wow
Fights like these happen, yet CG lost their game for 7k gold lead
Dayum
matter of time they will fall where they belong we already saw these teams with rookies winning beating everyone and then start losing just because teams have more exp. players
Yeah not like kaisa did faker 1k with 1 button as an adc :)
and they *LOST* ... 2-0 to ktRolster... which are in 5th place... the perfect composition and gameplay *FAILED* ... gg
What’s with this useless breakdown, not offending the breakdown nor SKT. Currently SKT are having a chaotic mess with their roster, seeing them lose to Griffin or KZ is seemingly obvious. Why not KT beat Griffin or Griffin beat KZ.
Sooooo they won cuz kai’sa op lol
Just Griffin is better than SKT
kai'sa just op I guess :P
Chubby >>>>>>> Choovy
Salt on the wounds to skt fans
Lmao faker just got caught in the first and third teamfight. It is all his fault. That's your breakdown
Marksmens forever
tactics B)
The comment section is full of bronzes and silvers
Gold Funnel = most boring way to win a game
Nerf mundo skt win
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All mistake make by faker and bang
Bang just choked so hard during the 2nd teamfight. He didn't even W...
Do Ge he couldn't.
He could have pressed it immediately but went greedy for the Q
He was trying to get dmg out with a q to heal full before w and e. It's standard vladimir. his w would have only served to make him escape and not engage with his 4 man ulti, which would then make his entire engage useless. The only thing he could have done was not get hit by braum q, anything else would have only resulted in the same thing, him backing off with w , which means he can't re enter the fight because kaisa can 1 shot him without his key survival ability. Also, that stun went off so ridiculously fast, even the best of the best would struggle to react to it
sacha Kovacevic Shouldve flashed it and into the enemy team, E then pooled, not even risking a Q. This slows the whole enemy team, gives Yasuo a path to Kaisa and ensures Bang gets good damage off while having the opportunity to Zhonya if Kaisa turns on him. I guess theres still Lulu wild growth but its duration isnt long enough for it to matter that much.
doesn't clear a path for anything, they are still grouped and able to counter yasuo so he wouldn't be able to get to kaisa, and either way kai'sa has qss still so it's pointless for faker to try knock her up unless it's popped. Also, he got stunned so fast that by the time he would have flashed and then w'd , he'd still be stunned. Team fight was lost because of his positioning in all situations imo
SKT in 2018 LUL
yay funnel strats, either you lose before 20 mins or you win, interactive gameplay yihaaaa
BlackLightningDragon Do u watch Lck? Did u see funnel team comp get fuked soo hard?
and this is why adcs should be removed from the game.
first hehe xd
lmfao seriously? top against a struggling team? really worth making a video off that?what a joke