All the issues you complained about the AMD Driver / Wattman suite have been going on for 3 years, and AMD continuously denies these issues. They continuously push RMA-ing your card instead as a solution, but it never fixes the problem.
You didn't need a full restart to fix the glitchy colors after driver install. If you right click the desktop and go to "display settings", the colors fixes itself immediately after without needing to click anything within the display settings. Just opening the display settings fixes it.
@UHD Gaming PC Strix reviews are up and show temps are still not low enough to have an impact and you should have seen that in this video the Pulse when OC'd was nearly as fast as their hybrid mod.
@v KEITH v Well keep in mind that AMD can't really screw over their board partners like Nvidia can. They probably made the reference models more expensive, with one of the reasons being that they need the board partners to be able to make better cards. Just speculation though, would love to hear other opinions.
tavis525 it’s a compatibility issue with windows and is still the fault of AMD for not making their driver properly compatible. Considering nvidia drivers work just fine in windows.
I honestly think the pulse looks gorgeous I always love that style and sapphire's cards always look special but I may be biased since my gpu is a sapphire pulse rx 570
@@tikho3795 It is definitely hard locked because of more upcoming Gpus coming from AMD. If these RX5700 cards are like the RX 570 mid range cards then the next cards coming from AMD are going to be powerful!
I've been running one of these since March 2020, and it's served me very well. It handles all the games I've thrown at it. I have a very high air-flow case so I rarely see the fans come on unless it's at a high load.
Also you guys are the most detailed TH-cam Reviews out there. Honestly if you are not a little technically you can get lost with all these numbers. Great Stuff as always..
@@cosmic_gate476 There is still a subset of the population that really enjoys technical speak, I'm glad he covers that space because I can only take someone reading manufacturer specs in a soothing voice over a slow pan of a product with rgb lighting in the background for so long before I throw my hands up and go "OK BUT HOW DOES IT PERFORM?!?!"
@@WalterJHuaman Must be a tiny subset because it's not about understanding the info. The problem lies with unnecessary lower level details that could have been easily abstracted away.
@@XUIW Technically a cooler card means it can stay in the higher states longer. This would mean a higher minimum FPS (bringing up the average overall FPS) and a more stable framerate. At most you would probably only see an improvement of 2-4% increase to max framerate if at all.
Wattman and Afterburner just refuse to work in conjunction with each other, even if you only use Afterburner for the on screen overlay. Had the same problem with my RVII, but fixed the problem by just using Radeon Settings for configuring the Global settings while not enabling Wattman. I use Afterburner for my OC profiles and the overlay.
I just want to say that I originally bought the MSI Mech 5700xt and the thermals especially on vram and junction temps were absolutely horrible! Even with a 90% fan curve (which sounded like a jet engine) I was getting vram temps around 88 degrees. I switched to the sapphire after watching this review and I am amazed by how much better this card is. Vram temps rarely go above 76 degrees on STOCK fan settings and with a custom fan curve they are rarely going above 68 degrees. I am so happy I switched to this card and thanks for the amazing review!
That'll be a great upgrade. My 980 TI died so I reverted to an R9 290. The 5700 XT is even a big upgrade from a 980 TI, so you'll be very happy with it.
All the benchmarks I've seen so far rx5700xt is closer performance to Rtx2070 super and is about 5% slower in some games and also 5% faster in other games . also Rx5700xt is $100.00 cheaper to buy. Rtx2060 super is not a good buy , slower and cost same . ray tracing is not reason to buy rtx cards , its not usable below rtx2080 ti.
I was impressed by this engineering sample on the subject of refrigeration, its quality is immense, I had never seen this type of solution in the voltage phases and in the memories regarding the power dissipation
@@bothellkenmore yet even then, it was only the r9 290x that proved how garbage AMD is at designing reference coolers. The ref cooler on those had you at 95c just on a desktop.
@@ZeroHourProductions407 The 1st time I heard the term "leaf blower" was in reference to an NVIDIA card. Again, I agree with you, blower style coolers are crap.
They should just launch aib's at the same time. Then nobody would care about what cooler they stick on the reference cards. Plus they wouldn't have the negative association they had the past weeks. Amd makes really bad marketing descisions.
I work for a custom PC shop, that happens with Nvidia and with AMD - and its exactly like he says - it only occurs after the drivers have been installed but before the PC is restarted. The first time it happened I had a GTX 1070 and Im like did my card go bad? But no a restart fixed it and all is well. I have had this issue occur every single time whether its an APU or GPU - and the vendor doesnt matter. This tells me its not an AMD specific problem, and its likely not an Nvidia problem but rather a windows problem. Amd hasnt fixed anything - there was no problem on their end to solve. It happens 100% of the time for me now whether the card is a 1060, 2060, 580, Vega or Radeon 7.
Yeah, I updated my drivers for my Vega 56 then my screen flashed a weird color of red tint when I restarted it then it disappeared after a few seconds, another weird glitch 🤷
Many, many years ago i spoke with some audio teachers. The rule was that a 3dB increase could be perceived as twice as loud. But that was speakers and not fans, so probably deviates. Interesting tho.
Hey, Steve. Long fan of your channel :) I have a suggestion: at 5:02 the graph is linear, but as you mentioned that dBA is logarithmic. Wouldn't it more intuitive for viewers to show them as such instead of linear traditional approach? Cheers :)
Thanks for the review. Everyday no hassle user experience is hardly ever mentioned in reviews (in other reviews I have heard "some issues remain" many times) but this is the first time I have understood the severity of the issues. Speaking in depth about the drivers is greatly appreciated, particularly about the hard crashes and the long term issues that have not or cannot be addressed.
This card was the bane of my existence for months. On my brothers PC it would crash ALL the time after updating drivers. It could only run-on Windows stock drivers. A PAIN
Amen. Started with team green with my first GPU purchase. Switched with the Radeon 4850, and still running a R7 360, both Sapphire. Both cards still work (even though the 4850 comes from the Core 2 Duo era!). Really impressed with the hardware reliability, particularly relative to price.
@@McTroyd I'm back to a team green GPU, after running a Nitro+ RX 480 for a bit, but needed something with a little more headroom for a lot of the games I play.
@@avex13 sapphire will make fancier models which run even cooler. They always do. And people will buy those and do the power play mods for overclocking to ~2.1Ghz on air while still staying cool
Good review. But please bear in mind pricing varies greatly in different regions. I think GN assumes all its viewers are US-based when re-iterating "$10 more". In the UK a reference card can be had for £379, whilst even the cheapest AIB designs cost £428+, the Sapphire Pulse included
the 2070 super needs a drop in price, their is not a card past this one worth the money, i am not a fanboy, but i do have a g-sync monitor so an nvidia card is what i would like to get but, i am all most ready to buy an rx5700.
Sell gsync monitor and get a good freesync monitor and rx5700 xt , and probably will save you money in the long run. Or spend that money you saved ($200.00 + ) towards better CPU, Get r9 3900x and you got a killer setup.
im building my first pc amd and the monitor has free sync but for some reason I would rather have the 2060 super for the graphic card? will this cause problems with my system? will I see a lot of screen tearing?
Thanks very much for the early review of this card. I definately want to build an AMD only build with probably a 3600X or 3700X, but was holding off until some decent non-reference 5700XT cards were released. This model has just been listed at two online retailers in Australia, so I won't have to wait much longer to get my build underway.
Thank you for bringing up the hard crashes even with mild overclocks! In some games,if I even touch the powerslider at all the world damn near ends for my vega 56 and nitro 590. Ive stopped trying to overclock them, it especially a shame since the vega 56 takes it to a whole new level when overclocked
So a 410.00 card 5700 xt is equal to a 2070 super 650.00 + Love it. Thank you AMD. Cant wait to see you in the higher end cards at a cheaper price point than the greedy green eye team. bring on that 5800 xt and 5950 xt. Love the competition. Cheaper for me and better gaming yo.
Well here you can get a 2070 super for £100 more than the xt blower. The average third party xt seems to look like an average £50 extra. So really it's a £50 difference and tbf the super does seem faster. So much of a muchness value wise.
Good to see the temp issue got solved. Will get one of the partner cards. Will see how the rest compare to this. Hopefully they get their driver issue sorted by october
Yee I'm honestly glad I decided to go with the 2070s.... I really don't wanna deal with driver issues. I have enough issues with computers I DON'T need more to deal with.
I agree I get that AMD cards are supposed to be cheaper (debatably), but when you have driver issues that shouldn't exist to begin with that kills it for me. You'll never know when they'll be fixed if they'll be fixed in a reasonable time. On top of that, Nvidia debatably has better encoding, which is more beneficial to streamers and content creators. I would not put a 5700xt in my build, unless the drivers are fixed.
On all my Radeon cards (and I love 4x Crossfire), I’ve never experienced anything as bad as my Titan Xp collectors edition... the Titan would crash most of my games every 30 minutes, and I gave up gaming for a while until after a month I said “F this”, put it on a shelf, plugged back in my old Crossfire cards and everything “just worked”, unfortunately, I had kept the card a little longer than 30 days thinking it was user error (I always assume it’s the monkey at the keyboard), and so Nvidia said it was too late for a refund past 30 days. After lots of drivers and different operating systems it kept screwing up (if even F’d up a fresh Linux OS when installing the Titan drivers! Like damn I knew Nvidia had $hit drivers on Linux, but screwing up a server operating system with a graphics driver? WTH, that’s a massive achievement for poor coding, I don’t even think I could do that if I tried!). So I tried installed Windows 10 a couple of times fresh and nothing worked (I tried every Nvidia driver I could find, from compute/workload optimized to gaming drivers, everything would just crash after a while). The weird thing is it could benchmark just fine, I even cranked it past 13.5 GHz on the memory and it technically passed the 3dMark benchmarks (it even games fine and stable now above 13 GHz memory 6 months later after some magic driver fix) It works fine like 6 months later, but WTH would I use such a crap card for? My much cheaper 4x R9 Fury does 100 fps in Crysis 3 at 4k Ultra where that weak $1200 card only made 45 fps, I wouldn’t be pissed if it hadn’t stolen a hundred hours of my time. I’d rather be frying cards on LN2 than having issues with a stock Titan that Id never overclocked and sounded like a jet taking off (I joked that it would be great for a flight simulator, blast your face with hot engine exhaust and let your hair fly around, haha, that would actually make it worth it!) I now just have it sitting on a shelf to look pretty, as it at least does that (wow! As a Star Wars fan it does look sexy... I’d rather build real laser blasters for $1200 though, as that’s my next project. Will trade Titan for laser optics and 10w diode banks?)
A few questions which i was was answered and question for next videoes 1. Noise sound readings, a clip of comparing the noises not just the numbers so we could hear for ourselves 2. The new backplate, how much more efficient is it? 3. The specs of the fans on the sapphire vs reference? 4. Slot information, is it the same? dual slot? more than dual slot? etc
Fixed Issues Some system configurations may experience color corruption after install of Radeon Software when running Windows® 10 May 2019 update. Issue is resolved in the latest Windows® Update 18362.267 (KB4505903) Radeon Chill settings may not sync with game profile settings when changed in-game through Radeon Overlay Radeon RX 5700 series graphics products may experience a black screen or flickering when applying auto overclocking memory with games or applications running in fullscreen Radeon AntiLag may slightly impact performance in select games Radeon RX 5700 Series Graphics may experience a black screen during uninstall on Windows®7 system configurations. A work around is to perform uninstall in safe mode. Recording clips with Radeon ReLive may result in blank clips on Radeon RX 5700 Series Graphics with Windows®7 system configurations.
Geez. I could literally feel the pain, the resistance, and the hesitation in having to admit that this is a good buy. I will wait to see reviews on Gigabyte, Asus, and MSI models (for RGB/aesthics) but I am definitely buying an AMD RX 5700 XT. Nvidia can byte me. 😉
I've owned a Sapphire Fury which is well known for being power hungry and my brother owns a Sapphire RX 470. Both were always cool and quiet cards. They really do make great GPU coolers.
On GCN when you crash, if it is not too bad, it just crashes and restarts the driver into safe-mode with low clocks, but you can use restart64 to restart the driver without you having to reboot which means the issues you are having are software driver related
Fixed Issues Some system configurations may experience color corruption after install of Radeon Software when running Windows® 10 May 2019 update. Issue is resolved in the latest Windows® Update 18362.267 (KB4505903) Radeon Chill settings may not sync with game profile settings when changed in-game through Radeon Overlay Radeon RX 5700 series graphics products may experience a black screen or flickering when applying auto overclocking memory with games or applications running in fullscreen Radeon AntiLag may slightly impact performance in select games Radeon RX 5700 Series Graphics may experience a black screen during uninstall on Windows®7 system configurations. A work around is to perform uninstall in safe mode. Recording clips with Radeon ReLive may result in blank clips on Radeon RX 5700 Series Graphics with Windows®7 system configurations.
@@levinunezmarte6667 i have seen reports of driver problems with video editors with navi, there the bug's im thinking of. not sure if it's AMD side or app side but iv seen reports of both problems with PP and resolve so i asume it's AMD.
a good review, just wish the drivers were working. i want to adjust fan rpm in soft water on desktop in real time like i can do now with msi afterburner. and also have a fan curve that allows for 600 rpm up to 70c before ramping up to 1000rpm max at 80c. 20 something db is my goal, zero fan speed at idle is not something i want, i remember my 1070 was over 60c with multi monitor at desktop.....
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All the issues you complained about the AMD Driver / Wattman suite have been going on for 3 years, and AMD continuously denies these issues. They continuously push RMA-ing your card instead as a solution, but it never fixes the problem.
Nice review. Detailed and concise. I'll be using 5700xt on stock anyway.
You didn't need a full restart to fix the glitchy colors after driver install. If you right click the desktop and go to "display settings", the colors fixes itself immediately after without needing to click anything within the display settings. Just opening the display settings fixes it.
Can it handle hevc with 4:2:2 chroma via hardware acceleration..the nvidia cards can't do it and need to revert to cpu processing.
Im waiting on gigabytes mini 5700 or the Xt, im using rx 560,
I wonder if GN will do a video on the best aftermarket 5700XTs when they all come out.
@@Aggnog I personally am bracing for any hybrid cards coming out.
@@Aggnog Oh you wanna pay 70 bucks more for 5°C less?
Even the Pulse does everything a Strix could do, BUT for cheap!
The Tech Deals channel (guy with prominent ostentatiously white teeth) has historically specialised in Which X Card Should I Buy videos.
Please do ...
@UHD Gaming PC Strix reviews are up and show temps are still not low enough to have an impact and you should have seen that in this video the Pulse when OC'd was nearly as fast as their hybrid mod.
Damn all that for only 10$ more
It's a great deal.
In sweden its more like 70$, making it only 50$ cheaper than the cheapest 2070 super. Tough choice.
@@Farekim unless both go for the same price i would save that 50$ as rtx is useless unless u hv a 2080ti
@v KEITH v Well keep in mind that AMD can't really screw over their board partners like Nvidia can. They probably made the reference models more expensive, with one of the reasons being that they need the board partners to be able to make better cards. Just speculation though, would love to hear other opinions.
@@evanmedi6144 except at stock the 2070 super is faster.
For some that's worth the little extra.
I want the R9 2xx look back on sapphire cards.
@Uzzy FTW Oooh the Toxic one right? I had a 270x toxic back then.
Agree, I had a 280 dual and it was beautiful
Get a R9 290/X or R9 380X and put the cooler on the 5700/XT, the mounting holes are the same!
We need a 5700xt Vapor-x
@@CarbonPanther really? Now that is interesting
pls review the xfx THICC
I wonder if XFX will make XFX Xtra THICC RX 5800XT in the future
@@titan_fx they will most likely
yes that card looks sexy AF just like old XFX coolers on R9
@@Saigonas if they don't call it the "乇乂丅尺卂 丅卄工匚匚" i'll riot
@@Saigonas GN is not likely to review that card.
We need a 5700 XT Vapor-X, I loved that design :P
Terrible design. It ended up killing my gpu in the long run because of high gpu and memory temps.
@@Mandrag0ras
My R9 290 stayed under 75°C under load 🤔
Worked well on HD 7970s and a bunch of the R9 stuff. I wanna see a Toxic edition again myself!
please YES ! a Vapor-X version with a dark backplate sure is dope and i want one !
I still have a spare vapor-x sapphire r9 270x just incase my current card breaks or dies. It was a great primary card too.
24:30 conclusion
The pink/green screen issue after driver install is actually a Windows issue and not the driver
This comment isnt even upvoted lol. Weird.
yeah i figured because im having that issue with my rx 480
actually i think its a clash between the drivers and windows
tavis525 it’s a compatibility issue with windows and is still the fault of AMD for not making their driver properly compatible. Considering nvidia drivers work just fine in windows.
It happened to me but just restarting the pc solve the issue.
I honestly think the pulse looks gorgeous I always love that style and sapphire's cards always look special but I may be biased since my gpu is a sapphire pulse rx 570
Running a Sapphire Nitro+ RX 470 8G, and I must agree
been expecting the Sapphire one to be reviewed
least it has no dent, that temps tho...
This is the low-end Sapphire one. Isn't there going to be a Nitro+?
@@avex13 if there is one it'll come out later but not sure if there's really a reason for them to release a nitro+ version.
@@avex13 Radeon cards tend to be at their limit out of the gate where frequency is concerned.
@@alexc3504 Not true, at least for polaris. i'm not sure what the deal with Navi is but I'm sure there's some headroom.
@@tikho3795 It is definitely hard locked because of more upcoming Gpus coming from AMD. If these RX5700 cards are like the RX 570 mid range cards then the next cards coming from AMD are going to be powerful!
I've been running one of these since March 2020, and it's served me very well. It handles all the games I've thrown at it. I have a very high air-flow case so I rarely see the fans come on unless it's at a high load.
Also you guys are the most detailed TH-cam Reviews out there. Honestly if you are not a little technically you can get lost with all these numbers. Great Stuff as always..
Hardware unboxed does more.
"if you are not a little technically"...dude, taking a writing course.
I understood what you were trying to say. Some assholes obviously didn't.
well i love listening to Steve always brings me to sleep within 5 mins of the videos. thanks GN for curing my insomnia! great work steve.
Great knowledge and cool guy but too wordy and way too much detail for most people to care.
@@cosmic_gate476 There is still a subset of the population that really enjoys technical speak, I'm glad he covers that space because I can only take someone reading manufacturer specs in a soothing voice over a slow pan of a product with rgb lighting in the background for so long before I throw my hands up and go "OK BUT HOW DOES IT PERFORM?!?!"
@@WalterJHuaman Must be a tiny subset because it's not about understanding the info. The problem lies with unnecessary lower level details that could have been easily abstracted away.
@@WalterJHuaman I agree man, I hope Steve never changes. It's dry as hell, but I love it. It's just pure tech goodness
@@cosmic_gate476 some people like that kind of detail 🤷
Sapphire doing it right, waiting for Nitro
Nitro?
@@XUIW It's their higher clocked, better cooled line. Offered in multiple colors.
Ryan N More FPS?
Definitely dude these cards are going to be amazing
@@XUIW Technically a cooler card means it can stay in the higher states longer. This would mean a higher minimum FPS (bringing up the average overall FPS) and a more stable framerate. At most you would probably only see an improvement of 2-4% increase to max framerate if at all.
My Vega 56 Pulse is getting jealous with me watching this video.
Still, that card is SEXY..
my Vega56 have anxiety attack now.
I prefer the thickness and look of the Vega personally.
@@Dake21 you should get the thicc card it's thicc af
Mine immediately gave me the stink eye once I read 5700 XT Pulse
@@The_Nihl lol keep the Vega card mate
My experience of running the 5700xt is that most issues Steve is talking about disappeared when I stopped running afterburner.
Brandon Bernal maybe because its green? Jk
Wattman and Afterburner just refuse to work in conjunction with each other, even if you only use Afterburner for the on screen overlay. Had the same problem with my RVII, but fixed the problem by just using Radeon Settings for configuring the Global settings while not enabling Wattman. I use Afterburner for my OC profiles and the overlay.
I just want to say that I originally bought the MSI Mech 5700xt and the thermals especially on vram and junction temps were absolutely horrible! Even with a 90% fan curve (which sounded like a jet engine) I was getting vram temps around 88 degrees. I switched to the sapphire after watching this review and I am amazed by how much better this card is. Vram temps rarely go above 76 degrees on STOCK fan settings and with a custom fan curve they are rarely going above 68 degrees. I am so happy I switched to this card and thanks for the amazing review!
I am glad I waited, think i will buy the Sapphire RX 5700 XT Pulse, it will be a big upgrade from my msi 960 4g. Great review.
That'll be a great upgrade. My 980 TI died so I reverted to an R9 290. The 5700 XT is even a big upgrade from a 980 TI, so you'll be very happy with it.
I recommend to wait for red devil reviews. I thinkt it's going to be amazing
Will be a great upgrade from my 670 GTX. Well that is if AMD doesn't release something better by the time I get my 3900x.
I'd definitely like to see reviews of the 2 XFX cards, "Black Wolf" and "THICC2" - whenever they are available~ :3
uwu
finally someone pointed those bugs in amd driver i've been living with them for the last 9 months ! thank you Steve
What problems are you encountering? I have the Vega 56 and nothing... The latest two drivers have actually only improved performance.
The RX 5700 series been out for 9 months?
@@Michealxlr Rx 470 I own can't use drivers last April for this reason
@@Michealxlr Dud i didn't say i have 5700 and have an amd graphic card and facing problems with the drivers since December 2018
Did i miss something? What are your OC settings, i only noticed the memory values -. -
This reminds me of Drug commercials here in the states, we recommend but here are the side effects of using the card.
Can you review the XFX RX 5700xt Deez Nuts next please.
Not until he reviews the XZX RX 5700xtLGBTQ Firebird first
Deez nuts cringe nuts
yes please make sure its 30 mins to
I'd rather wait for the XFX 5700XT LIGMA
Get a dual-GPU system with an XFX Deez Nuts model and a Powercolor Dragon model, so we can be Dragon Deez Nuts.
I thought people were joking, but no, turns out XFX is actually releasing a 5700 XT *"THICC II"* 😂
Yes! I can always look to your channel for proper noise measurements
So basically this is better than a 2060 Super at the same price. Nice job, AMD (and Sapphire).
Significantly better.
@@Pushing_Pixels most of the time yes, but otherwise closer than you think
For an unstable card ... no thanks!
All the benchmarks I've seen so far rx5700xt is closer performance to Rtx2070 super and is about 5% slower in some games and also 5% faster in other games . also Rx5700xt is $100.00 cheaper to buy.
Rtx2060 super is not a good buy , slower and cost same . ray tracing is not reason to buy rtx cards , its not usable below rtx2080 ti.
@@skywalker1991 Agreed. The 2060 Super is a really stupid buy right now.
I was impressed by this engineering sample on the subject of refrigeration, its quality is immense, I had never seen this type of solution in the voltage phases and in the memories regarding the power dissipation
It's almost like AMD needs to just full stop on using blower style coolers on their graphics cards. 👀
Until the 2000 series NVIDIA used blower style too for ref, but yeah, agreed.
@@bothellkenmore yet even then, it was only the r9 290x that proved how garbage AMD is at designing reference coolers. The ref cooler on those had you at 95c just on a desktop.
@@ZeroHourProductions407 The 1st time I heard the term "leaf blower" was in reference to an NVIDIA card. Again, I agree with you, blower style coolers are crap.
They should just launch aib's at the same time. Then nobody would care about what cooler they stick on the reference cards.
Plus they wouldn't have the negative association they had the past weeks.
Amd makes really bad marketing descisions.
i feel like they do it on purpose so they dont cuck their board partners
I'm crossing my fingers hoping they do a throwback to the HD5870 with these new gpu's, Loved that series.
20:20 To be fair. My evga 1060 6gb did the green screen thing after a fresh install too. I thought that it was defective at 1st.
I work for a custom PC shop, that happens with Nvidia and with AMD - and its exactly like he says - it only occurs after the drivers have been installed but before the PC is restarted.
The first time it happened I had a GTX 1070 and Im like did my card go bad? But no a restart fixed it and all is well.
I have had this issue occur every single time whether its an APU or GPU - and the vendor doesnt matter.
This tells me its not an AMD specific problem, and its likely not an Nvidia problem but rather a windows problem.
Amd hasnt fixed anything - there was no problem on their end to solve.
It happens 100% of the time for me now whether the card is a 1060, 2060, 580, Vega or Radeon 7.
Yeah, I updated my drivers for my Vega 56 then my screen flashed a weird color of red tint when I restarted it then it disappeared after a few seconds, another weird glitch 🤷
BlackCubone yup my 1060 6bg did green screen after fresh install of windows thought it was just me
I wish every hobby had someone like you Steve.
I like Ian McCollum aka Gun Jesus from Forgotten Weapons.
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD lol. Literally watching his spas 15 video right now.
Bring us the THICC BOI
Eagerly waiting for non-XT non refrence cards. Good to see Sapphire keeping the value of this card very competitive.
Many, many years ago i spoke with some audio teachers. The rule was that a 3dB increase could be perceived as twice as loud. But that was speakers and not fans, so probably deviates. Interesting tho.
Very few people can perceive a 3dB increase. A 6 dB increase would give the perception of twice the volume.
Hey, Steve. Long fan of your channel :)
I have a suggestion: at 5:02 the graph is linear, but as you mentioned that dBA is logarithmic. Wouldn't it more intuitive for viewers to show them as such instead of linear traditional approach? Cheers :)
My question at this point is,
1. Is the h264 issue fixed?
2. Where the hell did fluid motion go?
Wondering the same on the fluid motion/video playback settings...
About time to finally see a partner 5700!! Cheers.
one could argue, that when cards dont overclock well, they are well optimized cards
Great experience with sapphire cards in mini itx. Well done to them for doing all that for $10 bump.
Thanks for this review. Steve, please review the XFX Radeon cards, particularly the THICC. :D
Waiting for the 5800xt and then the XFX Thicc aftermarket cooler . That’s the combo that will make me leave nvidia .
Any news when 5800xt will hit the market? Or CU count?
@@AtamrarisTibia probably next year and up to 64 CUs. Gotta be a long wait dude
The XFX 5800 XT Thicc needs to arrive sooner man..
Forever waiting simulator... 😄
@@fela001 Christmas time would be amazing when Nvidia has nothing new to respond with
This card is nice an all, but there is only one true model of the 5700 XT... THE THICC
😁😁😁
People keep forgetting about the OwO 5700
No, gei.
too bad it turned out to be a horrible card
Thanks to THIS review video, I have just purchased this GPU in the UK. Great work Steve, thanks.
There's definitely interest in the THICC card from XFX.
Dude, you trying to compensate something?
@@Oozaru85 How obvious is it?
Thanks for the review. Everyday no hassle user experience is hardly ever mentioned in reviews (in other reviews I have heard "some issues remain" many times) but this is the first time I have understood the severity of the issues. Speaking in depth about the drivers is greatly appreciated, particularly about the hard crashes and the long term issues that have not or cannot be addressed.
XFX 5700xt thicc boi review would be mint
This card was the bane of my existence for months. On my brothers PC it would crash ALL the time after updating drivers. It could only run-on Windows stock drivers. A PAIN
Sapphire is always my go to brand when buying amd card!
Teardown yes! I want to see the VRMs and power delivery system on this card vs reference.
Sapphire has always been my go-to for AMD partner cards.
Amen. Started with team green with my first GPU purchase. Switched with the Radeon 4850, and still running a R7 360, both Sapphire. Both cards still work (even though the 4850 comes from the Core 2 Duo era!). Really impressed with the hardware reliability, particularly relative to price.
@@McTroyd I'm back to a team green GPU, after running a Nitro+ RX 480 for a bit, but needed something with a little more headroom for a lot of the games I play.
in terms of performance not much change
but man, those thermal readings are crazy, what a huge difference
There is nothing wrong with reference blower coolers....
.... As long as you take them off and put a EKWB on there instead.
Would love to see the dissassemble. Keep the great work!
🙂 at Microcenter the 2070 Super is $520 so the XT for $410 sounds like a good deal if ur into high end cards 🐢😇
What’s with the weird emojis lol
@@thegaminghobo4693 🙂 just being funny 😊
Do you see the same instability issues if you undervolt as you saw when overclocking?
I crave the *eXTra THICC* !!!
All those boys trying to compensate something by getting a thicc video card...
@RISEUP Gamer You sure? :)
@@Oozaru85 it's a joke.
just bought mine for new build fingers crossed I have no problems
Staying up all night payed off after all
20:12 The moment the fan breaks. ;)
Since Pulse (as far as i know) is Sapphire's sort of like lower tier card "brand" will we see Nitro variants of these GPU's?
They might produce it, but why? This already hits the limits of the silicon with good thermals and noise levels.
5800 or 5900 series maybe?
I am sure that They will offer them just more expensive better looking variants!
@@avex13 well yes but the memory is rather hot
@@avex13 sapphire will make fancier models which run even cooler. They always do. And people will buy those and do the power play mods for overclocking to ~2.1Ghz on air while still staying cool
I've just bought this card, DAMN I'm so happy I found ANY gaming graphics card -)))))
10:55 for the performance part
Good review. But please bear in mind pricing varies greatly in different regions. I think GN assumes all its viewers are US-based when re-iterating "$10 more". In the UK a reference card can be had for £379, whilst even the cheapest AIB designs cost £428+, the Sapphire Pulse included
the 2070 super needs a drop in price, their is not a card past this one worth the money, i am not a fanboy, but i do have a g-sync monitor so an nvidia card is what i would like to get but, i am all most ready to buy an rx5700.
Sell gsync monitor and get a good freesync monitor and rx5700 xt , and probably will save you money in the long run. Or spend that money you saved ($200.00 + ) towards better CPU,
Get r9 3900x and you got a killer setup.
im building my first pc amd and the monitor has free sync but for some reason I would rather have the 2060 super for the graphic card? will this cause problems with my system? will I see a lot of screen tearing?
Excellent ! You are the first of my tech YT'ers to be reviewing partner cards. This is my next GPU purchase.
Finally we see real competition to RTX in for of good AiB cards.
Thx for testing. GN
Thanks very much for the early review of this card. I definately want to build an AMD only build with probably a 3600X or 3700X, but was holding off until some decent non-reference 5700XT cards were released. This model has just been listed at two online retailers in Australia, so I won't have to wait much longer to get my build underway.
Only 2 years of warranty...
The THICC BOI has 3 years...
Seems legit
This looks very good, will buy for sure!
Thanks for the up guys, great work.
I have the sapphire pulse rx580 and it looks miles better imho
Thank you for bringing up the hard crashes even with mild overclocks!
In some games,if I even touch the powerslider at all the world damn near ends for my vega 56 and nitro 590.
Ive stopped trying to overclock them, it especially a shame since the vega 56 takes it to a whole new level when overclocked
Review the XFX Thicc/Thicc II
Thanks for the great, thorough review Steve, and the rest of the GN team.
So a 410.00 card 5700 xt is equal to a 2070 super 650.00 + Love it. Thank you AMD. Cant wait to see you in the higher end cards at a cheaper price point than the greedy green eye team. bring on that 5800 xt and 5950 xt. Love the competition. Cheaper for me and better gaming yo.
Well here you can get a 2070 super for £100 more than the xt blower.
The average third party xt seems to look like an average £50 extra.
So really it's a £50 difference and tbf the super does seem faster.
So much of a muchness value wise.
Dual fans 2070s only cost 500$, and you're comparing 5700xt oc vs 2070s non oc. The difference is pretty noticable
Centrioless plus we all know the AIB partner models of AMD will be more expensive. So the price argument becomes moot.
Good to see the temp issue got solved. Will get one of the partner cards. Will see how the rest compare to this. Hopefully they get their driver issue sorted by october
any undervolting test coming for the aib cards rx 5700 and rx 5700 xt?
I want to see that too.
Love the upload bro! Stay consistent & keep uploading if you wanna get big on TH-cam!
Yee I'm honestly glad I decided to go with the 2070s.... I really don't wanna deal with driver issues.
I have enough issues with computers I DON'T need more to deal with.
Ew nvidia
@@AnthonyK_34 it came with 4 years of warranty, that alone was worth the $100. Lol
I agree
I get that AMD cards are supposed to be cheaper (debatably), but when you have driver issues that shouldn't exist to begin with that kills it for me. You'll never know when they'll be fixed if they'll be fixed in a reasonable time. On top of that, Nvidia debatably has better encoding, which is more beneficial to streamers and content creators. I would not put a 5700xt in my build, unless the drivers are fixed.
On all my Radeon cards (and I love 4x Crossfire), I’ve never experienced anything as bad as my Titan Xp collectors edition... the Titan would crash most of my games every 30 minutes, and I gave up gaming for a while until after a month I said “F this”, put it on a shelf, plugged back in my old Crossfire cards and everything “just worked”, unfortunately, I had kept the card a little longer than 30 days thinking it was user error (I always assume it’s the monkey at the keyboard), and so Nvidia said it was too late for a refund past 30 days. After lots of drivers and different operating systems it kept screwing up (if even F’d up a fresh Linux OS when installing the Titan drivers! Like damn I knew Nvidia had $hit drivers on Linux, but screwing up a server operating system with a graphics driver? WTH, that’s a massive achievement for poor coding, I don’t even think I could do that if I tried!). So I tried installed Windows 10 a couple of times fresh and nothing worked (I tried every Nvidia driver I could find, from compute/workload optimized to gaming drivers, everything would just crash after a while). The weird thing is it could benchmark just fine, I even cranked it past 13.5 GHz on the memory and it technically passed the 3dMark benchmarks (it even games fine and stable now above 13 GHz memory 6 months later after some magic driver fix)
It works fine like 6 months later, but WTH would I use such a crap card for? My much cheaper 4x R9 Fury does 100 fps in Crysis 3 at 4k Ultra where that weak $1200 card only made 45 fps, I wouldn’t be pissed if it hadn’t stolen a hundred hours of my time. I’d rather be frying cards on LN2 than having issues with a stock Titan that Id never overclocked and sounded like a jet taking off (I joked that it would be great for a flight simulator, blast your face with hot engine exhaust and let your hair fly around, haha, that would actually make it worth it!)
I now just have it sitting on a shelf to look pretty, as it at least does that (wow! As a Star Wars fan it does look sexy... I’d rather build real laser blasters for $1200 though, as that’s my next project. Will trade Titan for laser optics and 10w diode banks?)
@@jakegarrett8109 Tbh, Titan cards are overpriced as shit regardless.
I've been anxiously waiting for these custom 5700XT like a crackhead... I need one now! Most of my parts for my new 3600X build are almost here.
Hi Steve!
I bought this card because of this video havent tested it yet but I know it will be eons better than my old 580 that committed self delete
Your link to the product page on amazon isn’t showing the product.
I haven't found any custom AIB rx 5700 series cards on Amazon in Europe or NA.
@Direnta It is on a local website here in Finland, the importer has them already. It depends on the region.
A few questions which i was was answered and question for next videoes
1. Noise sound readings, a clip of comparing the noises not just the numbers so we could hear for ourselves
2. The new backplate, how much more efficient is it?
3. The specs of the fans on the sapphire vs reference?
4. Slot information, is it the same? dual slot? more than dual slot? etc
Positive reviews on tis card: **Exists**
European resellers: I'm about to raise this man's price by more than 10%
In my country 60 euros diffrence
@@gigakoks-mu1zi €490 where I live
Holo 439 euros for spain
Glad to see you're feeling better. I think you guys might need a vacation man.
thanks for the video,i'm looking forward to buy this card
Fixed Issues
Some system configurations may experience color corruption after install of Radeon Software when running Windows® 10 May 2019 update. Issue is resolved in the latest Windows® Update 18362.267 (KB4505903)
Radeon Chill settings may not sync with game profile settings when changed in-game through Radeon Overlay
Radeon RX 5700 series graphics products may experience a black screen or flickering when applying auto overclocking memory with games or applications running in fullscreen
Radeon AntiLag may slightly impact performance in select games
Radeon RX 5700 Series Graphics may experience a black screen during uninstall on Windows®7 system configurations. A work around is to perform uninstall in safe mode.
Recording clips with Radeon ReLive may result in blank clips on Radeon RX 5700 Series Graphics with Windows®7 system configurations.
got one for almost a week now, extremely happy with it....well, besides Trixx not working on it yet and Sapphire support not telling you that
The pink and green screen issue is windows problem i have same problem on gtx 1080 when i instal new drivers i have to reboot every time
I am so thankful these video card reviews use °C
Geez. I could literally feel the pain, the resistance, and the hesitation in having to admit that this is a good buy. I will wait to see reviews on Gigabyte, Asus, and MSI models (for RGB/aesthics) but I am definitely buying an AMD RX 5700 XT. Nvidia can byte me. 😉
I've owned a Sapphire Fury which is well known for being power hungry and my brother owns a Sapphire RX 470. Both were always cool and quiet cards. They really do make great GPU coolers.
I want a nitro+, i wont downgrade from my 580 nitro+ to a pulse :v
@ageofbogyo And like 15c less, less noise, better material quality, bigger fans and nicer jeje, and dual bios, and a binned chip, etc hehwhe
i’ve always been a fan of sapphire cards, using a sapphire rx 580 nitro right now
Nitro+ SE incoming?
likely
yes
Theres going to be a toxic as well feels like sapphire is getting a bit excited.
Yeah! >:D
On GCN when you crash, if it is not too bad, it just crashes and restarts the driver into safe-mode with low clocks, but you can use restart64 to restart the driver without you having to reboot which means the issues you are having are software driver related
Will the 5700 non XT partner models be available at the same time as the XTs?
yes
it's so nice to see Sapphire back at the high end! not their fault..., it's like EVGA but for AMD
once drivers are working can we get compute benchmarks?
Fixed Issues
Some system configurations may experience color corruption after install of Radeon Software when running Windows® 10 May 2019 update. Issue is resolved in the latest Windows® Update 18362.267 (KB4505903)
Radeon Chill settings may not sync with game profile settings when changed in-game through Radeon Overlay
Radeon RX 5700 series graphics products may experience a black screen or flickering when applying auto overclocking memory with games or applications running in fullscreen
Radeon AntiLag may slightly impact performance in select games
Radeon RX 5700 Series Graphics may experience a black screen during uninstall on Windows®7 system configurations. A work around is to perform uninstall in safe mode.
Recording clips with Radeon ReLive may result in blank clips on Radeon RX 5700 Series Graphics with Windows®7 system configurations.
@@levinunezmarte6667 i have seen reports of driver problems with video editors with navi, there the bug's im thinking of. not sure if it's AMD side or app side but iv seen reports of both problems with PP and resolve so i asume it's AMD.
@@Solidlightvideo This guy has some nice videos you may find useful: th-cam.com/video/lT5q2h9R7QU/w-d-xo.html
Nice job GN!! Short and sweet. 👍
a good review, just wish the drivers were working. i want to adjust fan rpm in soft water on desktop in real time like i can do now with msi afterburner. and also have a fan curve that allows for 600 rpm up to 70c before ramping up to 1000rpm max at 80c.
20 something db is my goal, zero fan speed at idle is not something i want, i remember my 1070 was over 60c with multi monitor at desktop.....