Only the Rolls Royce offer was any good, Safran and GE have both never delivered on their offset obligations. Even now Safran still owes some crucial facilities that Bharat has never received. Two steps to need to be taken: Get Kaveri certified and flying on the Tejas Mark1A as fast as possible, along with a flying test bed and other needed wind tunnel facilities. Second step needs to be a brand new afterburner that can match the GE 404 engines performance. For the first time Kaveri will replace GE404 engine for Tejas Mark1A. That is a huge step, and funding needs to be given to make that happen.Rolls Royce can help with next gen tech for the engine after Kaveri 2.0 Ganga. The only use of the SNECMA offer is to get better terms n conditions from Rolls Royce, but the RR offer is already the best. Regardless of corruption allegations. Modi has to be brave and sign the deal immediately.
It's not just technology aspect but Geo political too. Soon labour party is gonna come in UK which is usually anti India and pro Pak. Said that we should have gone when they offered the EJ 200 a decade back and then gone for new development of engine for amca. As the ge f414 deal is already signed, and with Safran also coming up with 100% tot looks more like we are gonna go for either of these guys rather than rolls Royce. GOI will use the rolls Royce offer to get better deal with GE or Safran 😂
@@nishantshrivastava9674 It's still the best deal mate. Neither SNECMA nor GE ever did their offset obligations. Alex Zino from Rolls Royce said the Intellectual Property Rights for the new engine will remain with Bharat. Also HAL is building new plant for producing Adour engine parts, so they did do ToT.
Don't just take the technology, but also improve the gas turbine lab within DRDO so that it can not only absorb the technology, but also develop the next-generation variants. This is human resource development issue where dynamic young PhDs in turbomachinary area are hired from world-class universities around the world. Then they should be given freedom and funding to sink their teeth into the technology and develop the future versions of the engine. This requires a BIG change in DRDO mindset, which is notorious for losing its talent to software companies in Bangalore.
We must get Rafale F4 some or latest F5 version remaining under MRFA and ACCEPT SAFRON technology for our AMCA2 Tedbf etc engines of 120 Kn thrust. This will be ideal, economical , viable & trustworthy decision keeping in view DUAL TECHNOLOGIES (engines) at our service
Why not GE 414 - EPE in AMCA MK 1 which generates 116KN thrust and it is sufficient for AMCA MK 1 to Super Cruise ??? GE F- 414 EPE consumes 3 to 5 percentage less fuel and its weight is also less and generates 18 KN more thrust when compared to GE -414
USA will not give its 100% technology at any cost, all take time, more time, it takes 7-10 years for AMCA, in between we got news that india going for old F35😊😊
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We need more research on material science. Govt have to encourage people to this branch.
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Only the Rolls Royce offer was any good, Safran and GE have both never delivered on their offset obligations. Even now Safran still owes some crucial facilities that Bharat has never received.
Two steps to need to be taken: Get Kaveri certified and flying on the Tejas Mark1A as fast as possible, along with a flying test bed and other needed wind tunnel facilities. Second step needs to be a brand new afterburner that can match the GE 404 engines performance. For the first time Kaveri will replace GE404 engine for Tejas Mark1A. That is a huge step, and funding needs to be given to make that happen.Rolls Royce can help with next gen tech for the engine after Kaveri 2.0 Ganga. The only use of the SNECMA offer is to get better terms n conditions from Rolls Royce, but the RR offer is already the best. Regardless of corruption allegations. Modi has to be brave and sign the deal immediately.
It's not just technology aspect but Geo political too. Soon labour party is gonna come in UK which is usually anti India and pro Pak. Said that we should have gone when they offered the EJ 200 a decade back and then gone for new development of engine for amca. As the ge f414 deal is already signed, and with Safran also coming up with 100% tot looks more like we are gonna go for either of these guys rather than rolls Royce. GOI will use the rolls Royce offer to get better deal with GE or Safran 😂
Jaguar k adour engine ka TOT to diya nhi eurojet ka denge.. Sb jhooth bolte h deal lene k liye
@@nishantshrivastava9674 It's still the best deal mate. Neither SNECMA nor GE ever did their offset obligations. Alex Zino from Rolls Royce said the Intellectual Property Rights for the new engine will remain with Bharat.
Also HAL is building new plant for producing Adour engine parts, so they did do ToT.
@@kaho6891-GE deal is complete crap, no IP rights, so SNECMA and RR are only game in town. Just pull the trigger, and take one of those two offers.
Rolls Royce was a batter option but i don't know the whole picture so cnt say for sure
RR is an British company but safron is france....france is more reliable partner
Don't just take the technology, but also improve the gas turbine lab within DRDO so that it can not only absorb the technology, but also develop the next-generation variants. This is human resource development issue where dynamic young PhDs in turbomachinary area are hired from world-class universities around the world. Then they should be given freedom and funding to sink their teeth into the technology and develop the future versions of the engine. This requires a BIG change in DRDO mindset, which is notorious for losing its talent to software companies in Bangalore.
RR offer is better with full new ipr.
We must get Rafale F4 some or latest F5 version remaining under MRFA and ACCEPT SAFRON technology for our AMCA2 Tedbf etc engines of 120 Kn thrust. This will be ideal, economical , viable & trustworthy decision keeping in view DUAL TECHNOLOGIES (engines) at our service
Why not GE 414 - EPE in AMCA MK 1 which generates 116KN thrust and it is sufficient for AMCA MK 1 to Super Cruise ???
GE F- 414 EPE consumes 3 to 5 percentage less fuel and its weight is also less and generates 18 KN more thrust when compared to GE -414
Only words, no action.
Whether ge or saffran.
Amca and tejas 2 will not go to protype stage till engine is decided.
More than 10 years talking talking.. no results 🙄😒😒 no development.
USA will not give its 100% technology at any cost, all take time, more time, it takes 7-10 years for AMCA, in between we got news that india going for old F35😊😊
M88 based engine with a higher thrust is still a 4 th generation engine. We need new 5 th / 6 th gen technology.