@@YVNGNAMEK Yes, in fujin it makes sense what he's saying because fujin is now the rank where the best aggro/flowchart players reside. The only way to progress higher from there is with defence.
@@PirateFoxBox I played it for over a decade, had bad and good moments with it. You know what was the last straw for me? Kernel level anti-cheat. I will never install such horrible thing in my computer no matter the game. Now I have an account worth several hundred euros gathering dust.
As someone who plays SF6 as my main game, I had this realization about Tekken last night. There are really two games inside of one game. You can play honest tekken where you're playing this careful dance in neutral and trying to outplay the other person, or...you can just throw out all the bullshit your character has randomly and hope it overwhelms the other person before they can throw out their own bullshit. The former is fun and really compelling, but the other strategy works...like way more often than it seems like it should.
There are so many SF players coming into Tekken and preaching about the correct way to play, but I feel like Tekken at its core is pure cheese, and now more than ever in t8 where you don't have a choice but to just overwhelm the opponent with bullshit cause it's optimal...
@@kudjaremastered3362as a Kaz main, I try to punish my opponent and read them, but there are times where yeah I just have to do bullshit as there’s too much shit safe on block and gotta prevent those heat activations
At least with the blender situations in tekken there’s always at least some kind of option select you have to escape or turn momentum to your side In sf6 that’s literally nonexistent. The moment you’re in the corner in that game you HAVE to guess for your life. It’s literally a checkmate situation with no way out
Not gonna lie as a SF player more than Tekken - what you said is LITERALLY how people explained SF6 but growing into the higher ranks. Higher you go the dance DOES exist but its destroyed if the opponent realizes they can get away with bs on you lol Which made me realize thats kinda how Tekken is too. King being an example of that to me.
Tekken 8 is doomed. We're gonna get zero extra offline modes, no fully balanced game, more 50/50 heat, more irrelevant broken DLC's, more useless micro transactions. I don't see any of these things getting resolved in 2 years time. The games done for, are you happy now Harada?
Yeah, T8 is a game where even winning isnt fun half the time. Cause usually i just have to stand and punish my opponents’ yolo and flowcharts, completely blocked out of my offense by their unpredictable ape mashing. Yeah, i’ll still win, but it’s like playing whack a mole, not tekken.
I literally win sometimes and I wonder what the f!ck it was. Why did the guy get to this rank doing just that. sometimes I play with someone doing it all the time as if I were playing with artificial intelligence. I just need to work out its combination and I have perfect rounds. Dude doesn't even know what a block. I'm literally going to win something like this and I'm finishing the game for this day. I literally realize that my rank doesn't matter and is worth shit.
@azzam66 for me more talk like any person who does not pretend that there are no problems or I use this limping system to his advantage. People have been complaining about this for a long time. the funniest people are when you point out a mistake in a game say tracking or plus frames. they tell you to learn to play but when the update comes out changing something you've noticed a few months ago they almost shitting themselves from the excess of joy raising developers from geniuses and how this game is getting better and better
I reached tekken king with Lee. But unfortunately played a bunch of other characters too and now permanently only ever get matched with emperors and god of destructions.. I’m now fighting for my life to promote into kishin.. against god of destruction ranks… great
Tekken 8 Im ranked TGOD and got it in 2.5/3 months... Tekken 7 hit Top Rank in 1 yr... the game is fun but it did turn into button mash,panic move,offensive mess. Again game is fun but he ain't lying. OG tekken players are not wrong to be upset when creators looked passed the OGs and catered to new players making it super easy to pull off wins...
0:48 in all seriousness take out POWER CRUSH n mfs will be ASS ima kishin kazuya out here bustin up TEKKEN KINGS left and right n they all POWER CRUSH…..ABSOLUTE GARBAGE
Rage art, power crush and chip damage need to go... They're officially not Tekken mechanics. Getting punished for blocking correct against characters that spam more than others is bs. There are no good counter arguments... Not in Tekken. Shills and casuals will argue like I haven't been here since the early games. The entire point in TK was always clean gameplay where only the devils and bosses had powers. The rules have been broken, now there's nothing to appreciate about the main characters and the whole game is just anime nonsense. Gaslighters will probably rush down from their choppers like the Mishima zaibatsu in the TK4 intro cos every time you say Tk (was for a fact.. a really obvious fact) never very much like an anime or a joke game, they pull out like 2 examples of joke characters or anime influence then project it onto 100% of the series when it was always dominated by and based on martial arts movies which should just be so insanely clear to see if you look at the first trilogy, back when it knew what it wanted to be and was driven by creative people rather than devs just trynna do business and keep their wages incoming. The aura of the series has been taken away and I think new devs with a hunger to make games will have to be brought in to fix all of this.
@@MountainSoup-k8k naw dawg and to top it off kazuya has ZERO POWER CRUSH HEAT ENGAGERS!!!! Meaning I have to work twice as hard cuz all his engagers are on HIT not POWER CRUSH!!!!
@famusp1991 bruh so steve only has 1 and 2 to attack. Doesn't mean he needs more or even stronger moves. It means you adapt and play around his strengths and weaknesses. Same for kazyua, except all he needs is heat, and has his 50/50s to come to his rescue when you run out of ideas
@@RosaryFGCthey never said anything about playing anything. You are strawmanning them because you have no real comeback to say. Show me where they ever said they play Tekken ? All they said was the same thing I said. You dropped slop for more slop and are acting like it's some grand achievement. Pull your head out of your rear and read correctly. Out here acting like VF is gonna save you or something when it's likely gonna be more modernized slop like SF6 and T8, but you're gonna cope and tell yourself it isn't somehow.
WHEN I tell you that I have enjoyed every second of this video. Literally, it's like you reading my thoughts. Well put together, everything was spot on
Game is trash just like the roster. Tekken 7 was better at LAUNCH than tekken 8 13 months later. No akuma or playable boss, chip damage & heat are cringe, the cancerous 1 & dones are amuck 24/7 & the netcode sucks
All the people saying get out of blue ranks before you speak need to understand rank don't mean shit in T8. Sure if your rank is low you probably have room to improve. Having a high rank is meaningless though. Even GoD is over run by players that can't move can't punish and mash at massively negative frames
Blue rank used to be and at least should be high af... So few people were getting blue back in Tag 2... Even TTM who was ten times smarter than all of these new players was at red for a while in Tag 2... Which was actually good af, better than blue is now. It's dumb anyway and it's just a way of avoiding the truth. You don't need to be a master chef to know food is frozen... You can still see moves function badly. I hope TK shills are happy with themselves cos tons of people avoid the series cos they think they're smart and are annoying. I played for years and put in hundreds of hours but got my rank then just quit. If I'm gunna grind hard af to keep scrub characters off me then the last thing I want is to have the scrub mains pretend there's absolutely nothing wrong with the way ever single thing they do is evasive
Couldnt agree more, this game is a clown show. I only play it like once a week because its Tekken and I love Tekken but its the first game I just cant stand. Im GoD with Steve and some other characters but it doesnt even feel satisfying getting it in this game.
I lost interest when they brought Heihachi back. And not just brought him back, they retconned it that he never died. And never hit the lava [despite Kazuya watching him fall]
HERP DERP! I play FGs for the DogShxT plot! Scamco shouldn't bring *The Face* of Tekken, & one of the most popular FG characters of all time back, because the dumb plot said so. You're an absolute clown. The kind of galaxy brain who thinks M.Bison and Akuma shouldn't be in SF, because they've "died" so many times. Tekken doesn't exist without Heihachi, & it never will. Go back to Smash Bros lil bro.
They seem to be ignoring that in the anniversary trailer. For me that hints they might ignore the DLC going forward. Harada himself basically acknowledged the negative reaction to it and said he wished he had planned the story better Also despite what the monks said Heihachi himself implies they lied and that he went to Hell They aren't trustworthy narrators
Even as a Drag main I despise how aggressive this game is. I like how when I played Drag in 7 he would dominate the game but you still needed defense and I liked that, however in 8 it's just mash. I still play with that 7 style but i have way less luck than mashy drags so it's not fun.
I have about 250hrs in tekken 8 while 3k in tekken 7. No way im playing 3k hrs in 8. Its too frustrating at least in 7 it felt like i was losing and improving to better players.
Couldn't agree more. You are absolutely right about this game. Everything about this game is aggression, 50/50, Heat mechanics, op things, and nothing else. People are leaving their mains and picking up S+ and Top 10 characters just to win. Not to mention, all they do is spam overpowered moves, power crush, heat burst, heat smash, mixups and then win. Even after winning, these toxic players will ki-charge/teabag and then do "one and done" and leaves. They think of themselves as the greatest Tekken player in the world, as if they won the match by playing fairly. More than half of the playerbase is toxic. About game modes, offline mode is mostly non-existent because nobody plays it. It also lacks really good offline modes like Tekken force mode or scenario campaign like in Tekken 6, instead we got Tekken ball which nobody cares about. Customization sucks in this game. It is even worse than Tekken 7. Customization only looks good because of the graphics. It contains very small no. of items. Then, the said items are very mediocre to worst. Same items with different textures, some items cannot be given desired colours, lack of types and varieties, no options for outer and inner parts, no custom hair making, etc.. What we should have got for free are now locked behind Tekken shop and Steam DLC. All of the legacy costumes and reused items from Tekken 5, 6, 7, and Tag 2 are purchasable, which were free in previous games. This is outright greedy.
Another thing that ruins T8 for me is Bamco making every character a basic stance rushdown gorilla and removing character's identity, like half of Steve's counterhits getting thanos snapped to irrelevancy and giving him a mixup stance nobody wanted, or taking cool shit from characters that gave them sauce (eg Jin's stance cancels and Drag's lack of viable power lows) and either dumbing them down to Pritt gluestick-eating levels of brainpower to execute or just removing them altogether. The last thing people want to do is hop on ranked and fight 5 different characters with the same copy-paste hold this 50/50 gameplan, it's not only uninteractive but incredibly fucking monotonous and uninteresting. Hopefully Bamco cuts off their excessive intake of galaxy gas and starts making their characters cool and unique again, but shit like that takes more than tweaking numbers, so I honestly don't know how much of a solution Bamco's gonna cook up, I just need my fuckass df2 to track or allow the Shiro combo or something (and for Victor to explode).
They really messed up Steve Fox. It's probably the worst he's ever been in a Tekken game. And the worst part is, it doesn't look like they're gonna fix it anytime soon.
@@nxzavianBecause it's like leaving a bad review in the middle of a restaurant WHILE you are eating the food youre talking shit about on Yelp and then obnoxiously scream at it to everyone how bad the food is whilst eating it. No one likes it. Complain out of love, don't act like it's the end all be all cause at that point JUST LEAVE. Just move on from Tekken and save your tears elsewhere. Let the people who want to play it make actual complaints instead of ranting and whining on the internet for views and clicks with clickbait shock value titles and fingerbaiting thumbnails 😂
@@megumareta6361 ik im two days late but this is a really well-worded way to explain it. I saw Emery Reigns get mad at Mainman as well because he played Virtua Fighter like 5 times and kept shitting on it instead of leaving it alone lmao. It's sad that this do be getting actual views tho 😔
This is the only fighting game in my life beside DNF duel (happy its dead), where use of fundamentals is heavily discouraged/punished. game also needs a fucking anti cheat.
Has nothing to do with winning or losing, I was commenting on the state of the competitive scene. You're just butthurt because the community is flaming your favorite game. But that's just me talking out of my ass like you.
Everyone’s so negative about every game nowadays. It’s only the beginning. It can only get better. I truly feel this game will go down as the best Tekken of all time.
Nah, they had 9 yrs to get it right. T8 is only a year old and the complaints have been nonstop about it. Sure it can get better, but this was highly anticipated and it’s a letdown for many. Even OG Tekken players say the same. They should have known better to release the game like this. Many players had issues in T7 that seemed to carry over. That game rewarded unga bunga as well. Now they have doubled down on the unga bunga in this one and made it more brain dead. I get they did it to attract newer players and all but it’s just a unga bunga fest now.
something the community also wont do is the older games have handicaps if people have a problem with the combo damage you can use the handicaps to make it take more hits to kill people that way 2 long combos and done doesnt happen as much
ye the game is ass i cant stand it. I miss tekken 7. Tekken 9 comes out in 9 years meaning this franchise is dead. Hopefully virtua fighter saves 3d figthers
This is my first Tekken and it feels so unfair specially against agressiv players, I agree with pretty much all you are saying, but also I love this game a lot. And I am really happy to hear that I have the old school Tekken style :) also I loose a lot against mad mashers who does not care that i'm on positive frames lmao
My main issue with Tekken is the lack of defensive options. It seems to want to reward mindless & aggressive players. Im a Raven player and it kills me that many of characters have spammable moves that arent punishable. Another gripe is the SFxT repetitive combos juggles that makes me just drop the controller and stop playing because it so damn long boring. P.S. I hate simple model players.
@@D_McGeezacksPersonally, I have enjoyed this game since launch and a lot of what he says mostly comes from not being able to adapt. Only part I agree with him is the micro transactions. Tournaments in Tekken7 were boing af to watch, seeing players shuffle for a whole minute was not enjoyable at all. Yes Tekken8 has some issues, but people have to realize this game is not like Tekken7 and i’m glad about it.
As a player who managed to achieve "tekken king" in ranked online, in Pakistan no less, I agree with this otherwise Fujin player lol. Even when I am winning, I dont enjoy it. The reward is just not there. Mostly, you win because of some gimmicky crap tools. I main devil jin and he is a gimmick king, straight up. Thats all he has and if you dont utilize his gimmicks, you are screwed big time because his traditional moveset sucks since he has been nerfed to hell. So yeah, I agree with this video 100%.
while previous tekken‘s were frustrating nothing is as frustrating as tekken 8 is tekken previously had an answer or more for certain moves and how to counter, but now there are actual moves you can‘t do anything against except block and get chipped for blocking the gameplay mechanics don‘t lead to a good flow but instead will always be „who‘s turn is it this time“ and that is a big problem now since now a lower skilled player can overwhelm a better player just by abusing bs
All they have to do is make armor cost heat and heat slowly recover. Bring back kbd. All modern fgs want you to be in a blender with meager defense options just for new players to try the game but it pushes everyone from playing for a long time. Since fgs rely on repetitive gameplay it HAS to be designed with how the players grow over the years or else it gets solved and boring after a year or two. But devs are do scared of turning off new players they lose everyone in 6 months to a year. PS you can thank the failure of blue protocol gacha game for bandais munnie addiction.
@@PwnerGeist yeah you nailed it! It’s very short sighted… aggression might bring new players through the door (in the best case), but depth is needed to keep them playing, which this game has very little of
im tired of everyone whining i never bought the game because i knew it was going to be a 50 spam fest with broken moves if you guys truly hate the new game please make tournaments for the old games there is nothing stopping the community from doing that. Namco doesnt care everyone needs to stop making these videos they are never going to listen. New tekken is dead and thats okay we have like 5 great tekkens to choose from look at super smash bros melee its the best in the series people still play it and its almost if not more popular than ultimate nowadays. find the tekken that is the equivalent to super smash bros melee and have tournaments for it. the community needs to do something as a whole.
Dawg, WHO have you heard complain who hasent bought the game??? Please stop making make believe scenarios to fit your narrative when the people who have been playing or stopped playing are waiting on a balance patch. The game is in a terrible state, moves tracking is the biggest issue, it negates DEFENSE
I want a remake of Tekken 4, Tekken 8 graphics but Tekken 4 gameplay with bugs fixed and limited juggles lol. Loved that game. The intro was awesome seeing kaz return. Fun times lol
6:48 The lee can sure duck kazuya's mid into high punch so well but when it comes to punishing it with a launch combo, he plays like a yellow rank lmao. What a waste.
If Tekken 7 graphics was like tekken 8 i would of chosen to play Tekken 7 instead and the tournaments better than Tekken 8 tournament I wasn't fully invested in Tekken 8 tournament because i didn't get a high tension and the adrenaline rush like i felt in Tekken 7 tournament
5:22 the timing with what you’re saying and what was happening in the background was so accurate Not hit confirming 1,1,2 and then Leo not launching 1,1,2 Was that intentional
Generally in this game every character obtain easy counterhits and putting effort on certain strings for ducking is not a good thing becouse from one string every character can perform grab , low, guard break, low launch , even if you recognize a string doesnt matter becouse that string is formed by 50/50 you find your self in preassure all the time ....but im still playing it i left mk1 for a reason and if virtua fighter will be a good martial arts game without fire, electric and reward players for dedication without losing in less than 15 sec it will be nice.
I wonder how they would balance him with all these unga bunga characters now. AK doesn’t have a lot of tools so unless they fundamentally change him, he may feel dated to play in T8. Just my opinion though.
@@X2GrindTekkenthe hell u talking about ruining King... He's the best designed he's ever been in the series... Before he was just all over the place with just a bunch of wrestling moves... Now he has an actual purposeful game design focused on being a juggernaut of a grappler that powers through people... An actual focused character design
@ yeah… spamming muscle armour, amour, heat smash into one of the top 3 most brain dead mixups online is good design… also how literally all Kings play the same caused by how he was designed… yeah he is the best he has ever been 😂 Juggernaut… the BS you are talking sounds like some marketing jargon from Bamco… realty is King feels gimmicky and cringe… unless you play him and only understand the games mechanics up to red ranks 😂😂😂
@X2GrindTekken lol actually yapping nonsense... U wanna talk about top 3 brain dead mixups how bout u spouting the top 3 most brain dead excuses to cry about a character... "OMG he's spamming the same moves, OMG he always play the same, OMG he has brain-dead mixups" 😂 classic... Ur level of self awareness is at an all time low... Never mind u don't even play the character so u actually DON'T KNOW how to play him... Ur only complaining coz u eat the same shit every time so yeah it might as well be the same to u... Also way too many emojis... Ur acting trying to cope so hard by spamming emojis
The 3D FG scene is kind of limited. Outside of Tekken you got Dead or Alive, Soul Calibur and Virtua Fighter. Which may seem like a lot, but all those games differ so much that they attract different sort of players. So if you do not like T8, you better start liking something else. lol
Tbh. Yagamis comeback against Chanel was absolut cinema to watch. In my opinnion it was the greatest display of "pure" tekken gameplay, and adaptation this whole season. I might be biased, because I also play Reina, but you just can't deny how amazing that set vas to watch.
I feel like exclusively playing any fighting game right now is gonna drive you crazy eventually. I got so sick of sf6 and throw loops I never wanna touch that game again. Nothing wrong with taking a break and playing something different if you're burned out.
The thing is that a lot of FG players typically only play their one game and then develop an insane amount of Stockholm syndrome towards the game they play thus they end up like this guy where they hate the game they play but can't quit cause they don't wanna pick up another game. And what people dont even realize either is that EVERY fighting game has nonsense in it that will get you upset after a while. But people will act like their game is somehow the biggest offender and act as if going somewhere else won't have its own share of problems.
What *I* can’t withstand about the most with Tekken 8 is how they’ve butchered both Lili & Asuka! Sure they’ve also butchered some other characters, but in my opinion, Asuka and Lili were the most butchered! If we look back at Tekken 5, Asuka Kazama had potential in her arc, where she had the ability to nullify the devil gene inside Jin, meaning she had some relevance to the Mishima/Kazama family. But instead they did her dirty by scraping all of it, and made her where she just has the last name and nothing else! Lili on the other hand, she seemed interesting, a French girl wishing to be the strongest, and helping her father, but Bandai Namco just reverted her to a spoiled brat! What’s worse for the both of them is their rivalry! It’s just repetitive and so annoying! It’s like a lesbian drama in a nutshell (not saying I’m against lesbians, I strongly respect lesbians!)! Overall Asuka and Lili’s relationship, rivalry and overall story arcs were entirely butchered, because I feel like Bandai Namco doesn’t care about Tekken anymore!
I only play ranked up until tekken king as you get to play top level players. The ranked point system once at tekken king is so badly designed. As a lili main on my channel it's so frustrating that you know you go up against broken characters over and over. There are rarely specialist players in those ranks anymore to get matched with. I play quick match and tekken lounge now
Really starting to think the internet and by extension online gaming spaces are a mistake. It’s creates this wide reaching space where people enter these echo chambers and feed off each other’s constant negativity. The way games are talked about, and interacted with are done in such a negative way. And if it was just Tekken 8 it’d be one thing (I still think many are being overly negative about the game) but this sort of thing happens with so many other games. Not saying devs can’t make improvements and when it but I don’t think enough people in these spaces actually hold others accountable as far as checking them for having unrealistic expectations and ignoring that fact that in this games case they have been working hard to consistently update the game, add new content, ect and that’s not acknowledged nearly enough. Most just want to piss and moan like entitled children as if that’s going to help anyone enjoy the game or help the game improve. Sadly I think too many are attracted to negative talk and there’s not a game out there that these types won’t rip apart no matter what.
Your right but your saying that In the wrong space. Tekken 8 is a well made game with a lot of hard work put in to it. That being said, the gameplay and every other mechanic was made on purpose. What I mean by that is, tekken 8 is a game designed for weaker players to beat stronger players, any one above average skill has already realized this and its something the pros saw right away but it's being swept under the rug by the bigger content creators. The game is just not competitive or as intricate as past titles
@ Right, so my question is when does the acceptance kick in? If everyone is aware of this then why the rampant complaining still? It’s been a year. For example imagine the transition from Super Smash Bros Melee, to Brawl, the seasoned melee players play the new game, and keep complaining that Brawl isn’t as “competitive” as melee yet they keep playing and complaining about it. Thats pretty much what’s happening here. Either accept that Tekken 8 is Tekken 8 or don’t play. It’s that easy.
@riotron1026 so... you're just tired of the complaining? Turn off your phone then. Tekken 8, feels like it could be fixed. Because it's a fun game, fun series. If you don't understand that, then I don't know. Unless you sympathize with the faceless million dollar company or just don't even play tekken that way. Also brawl was made, what, 10 years? 15 years ago? It's a relatively old game, apples and oranges here they're not even the same type of fighting game, not to mention made and played by different people
@@MountainSoup-k8k True. I could. And honestly should. Though it sucks when the complaints are damn near inescapable. See some random tekken 8 content, guess what, chock full of pissing and moaning. Not all the time but a lot of the time. Yes the game could use more key improvements but these concerns are hardly addressed in a way that doesn’t come off as…well…bitching. People just love to gather and focus more on the negatives than the positives. Also I think my smash bros example works. Yes the game is old but that’s hardly relevant when looking at the context of the example.
You do not play to win. You do not understand the essential structure of mind games. An overly aggressive player is very easy to dismantle in this game. This is WHY pros will give up rounds to get information on the opponent. It is entirely set up to where you can set up spacing and defenses before they start their assault. Heat is very well-balanced outside select niche situations. People were complaining about tekken 7 tournaments too ya know. It's the natural cycle of any new fighting game. It's hated until its loved years later once it is finally understood. The majority of players do not understand how this game fundamentally works and can't interface properly with its systems. If everyone has such strong tools and that's why it's not winnable for you, then you don't understand how to apply the tools to your own benefit. Just let the other hard stuck fujin you're fighting waste his resources. Respond appropriately. If you are overwhelmed, frankly you don't have the knowledge to deal with it.
There's nothing "blatantly broken" about Jin. And no i'm not a "jin main". He has zero broken moves and just doing his staple combo of b3~f1, bf2, 3~f, u1 takes more thought, timing, and skill than anyone else in the S tier takes. But good video otherwise.
Jin, skill and thought in the same sentence is funny. But no, his heat smash on block is ridiculous and everyone knows it, a really good poking string that I don’t even have to name off cause everyone KNOWS what string it is at this point. Even if we are gonna cope and say he’s not broken he gets rewarded for everything without needed any execution for any of his moves or combos. I remember picking him up just to see how easy it’d be to climb, and aside from yoshi jin was by FAR the quickest climb I’ve ever had and that was off JUST his heat smash.
Ahahah Jin is broken beyond compare. His heat smash is bullcrap, the pushback after hit takes you to a wall where you are going to eat a wall combo just cuz you got hit by a heat smash? That has crap written all over it. Other than that, he has too many safe high strings which even after ducking, cannot be punished but just interrupted most of the times. Lastly, his two jabs (idk the input cuz i dont main this cancer) which are vital for wall bound have tooo much wall carry on them, more than 90% of the roster.
I agree. Blue ranks Fujin to Bushin are all bummy playstyle. There are some with good fundamentals but man most just use Heat burst when panicking and try to land heat smash to try and come back lmao
Toning down heat is a good idea I think all heat smash needs damage nerfing I think heat burst need a nerf as well rage Needs a damage nerf as well heat engager plus frame needs a nerf down lower no normal moves should be so plus 5 + at max on non counter hit and no 50/50 after heat smash block either also big nerf on wall damage and taking away some of those high crush moves
Also those armour heat engager need to go and those top tear needs nerfing Jin / yoshi / Alyssa / shaheem / yoshi / Nina / law / more better quality items need to be made if u want me to pay Money
i just wanna be forever dragon's rank 4ever, Garyu-Tenryu, those guys are real, can enjoy the game, with no bs, same skill issue not knowning all frame data etc. having fun atleast, but when you get Ruler, all changing, people are smarter better stronger)
But they removed chickens so there's a buff for defensive characters? Just kidding, Harada has brain worms and it's so surreal to watch Tekken constant decline in quality after T4.
Ironically all of the complaints about Tekken 8 is all I've ever known about Tekken I haven't really known it as any other game. Granted this is why when I returned to Tekken 6 the game was very foreign to me.
Tekken 8 is the first time tekken came straight to consoles. Usually tekken hit arcades for a year or two first then the refined and polished version went to consoles. Even t7 was an arcade game during it's real first launch. T8 as it stands is the arcade version, that is to say, a paid beta. Season 2 forward will be very different and more refined. Not perfect but most likely much better than now.
Spoken like a true hard stuck fujin
On God cuz he's just parroting high level players, the fact that we have more offensive options gives us more opportunities to apply defense
@@YVNGNAMEK Yes, in fujin it makes sense what he's saying because fujin is now the rank where the best aggro/flowchart players reside. The only way to progress higher from there is with defence.
Nah thinks to chip damage being so high defense just gets you killed in T8
@ Defence also includes side steps, side walking, back dash, and parries.
@@09Drdray so are you just gonna pretend like KBD wasn't massively nerfed and most moves in T8 dont have strong tracking
Ranked gives me actual grey hairs at 19
Ranked made me go bald at 18!
My hairline recedes 1cm each time I lose a promotion match 😭
why are you geh
@Sinkseven who says I'm geh
@@NeloAlberto16You are geh
"Everything is bad about this game but I will still keep playing it."
I have the same feeling. I hate the game but as there is no 3D alternative it’s like being stuck. Well til VF launches that is. 😂
@@X2GrindTekkenplay REVO if you have PC
@@Fleez311 its trash
- The entire league of legends community
@@PirateFoxBox I played it for over a decade, had bad and good moments with it. You know what was the last straw for me? Kernel level anti-cheat. I will never install such horrible thing in my computer no matter the game.
Now I have an account worth several hundred euros gathering dust.
As someone who plays SF6 as my main game, I had this realization about Tekken last night. There are really two games inside of one game. You can play honest tekken where you're playing this careful dance in neutral and trying to outplay the other person, or...you can just throw out all the bullshit your character has randomly and hope it overwhelms the other person before they can throw out their own bullshit. The former is fun and really compelling, but the other strategy works...like way more often than it seems like it should.
There are so many SF players coming into Tekken and preaching about the correct way to play, but I feel like Tekken at its core is pure cheese, and now more than ever in t8 where you don't have a choice but to just overwhelm the opponent with bullshit cause it's optimal...
@@kudjaremastered3362as a Kaz main, I try to punish my opponent and read them, but there are times where yeah I just have to do bullshit as there’s too much shit safe on block and gotta prevent those heat activations
you summed it up perfectly; nice demonstration of intellect
At least with the blender situations in tekken there’s always at least some kind of option select you have to escape or turn momentum to your side
In sf6 that’s literally nonexistent. The moment you’re in the corner in that game you HAVE to guess for your life. It’s literally a checkmate situation with no way out
Not gonna lie as a SF player more than Tekken - what you said is LITERALLY how people explained SF6 but growing into the higher ranks. Higher you go the dance DOES exist but its destroyed if the opponent realizes they can get away with bs on you lol
Which made me realize thats kinda how Tekken is too. King being an example of that to me.
Tekken 8 is doomed. We're gonna get zero extra offline modes, no fully balanced game, more 50/50 heat, more irrelevant broken DLC's, more useless micro transactions.
I don't see any of these things getting resolved in 2 years time. The games done for, are you happy now Harada?
Yeah, T8 is a game where even winning isnt fun half the time. Cause usually i just have to stand and punish my opponents’ yolo and flowcharts, completely blocked out of my offense by their unpredictable ape mashing. Yeah, i’ll still win, but it’s like playing whack a mole, not tekken.
whack a mole lmfao
I literally win sometimes and I wonder what the f!ck it was. Why did the guy get to this rank doing just that. sometimes I play with someone doing it all the time as if I were playing with artificial intelligence. I just need to work out its combination and I have perfect rounds. Dude doesn't even know what a block. I'm literally going to win something like this and I'm finishing the game for this day. I literally realize that my rank doesn't matter and is worth shit.
Try play with friends offline
You sounds like LTG
@azzam66 for me more talk like any person who does not pretend that there are no problems or I use this limping system to his advantage. People have been complaining about this for a long time. the funniest people are when you point out a mistake in a game say tracking or plus frames. they tell you to learn to play but when the update comes out changing something you've noticed a few months ago they almost shitting themselves from the excess of joy raising developers from geniuses and how this game is getting better and better
Nah the best tournament this year was Definitely Yagami coming back 5 matches after being down 4-0 vs Chanel.
I need to see that one. It sounds cool. Yagami is a stud and also fuck Alisa lol
My favorite set is still ak’s shaheen vs farzeen’s victor
I reached tekken king with Lee. But unfortunately played a bunch of other characters too and now permanently only ever get matched with emperors and god of destructions.. I’m now fighting for my life to promote into kishin.. against god of destruction ranks… great
Tekken 8 Im ranked TGOD and got it in 2.5/3 months... Tekken 7 hit Top Rank in 1 yr... the game is fun but it did turn into button mash,panic move,offensive mess. Again game is fun but he ain't lying. OG tekken players are not wrong to be upset when creators looked passed the OGs and catered to new players making it super easy to pull off wins...
Game is really shit for Tekken standards. It's not tekken anymore.
If it wasnt named Tekken maybe I would not mind it that much.
I guess my question is, what IS Tekken to you? 7? 6? Or are we going back as far as 5?
@ThiefofCrystals 6&7 are my favorite despite rage mechanics.
Bro I couldn’t have explained this better my self. This video should go viral because it’s soo true!
"i agree with this video therefore it's all true!"
Lmao you people are sheep man. Not a single individual critical thought among any of you.
0:48 in all seriousness take out POWER CRUSH n mfs will be ASS ima kishin kazuya out here bustin up TEKKEN KINGS left and right n they all POWER CRUSH…..ABSOLUTE GARBAGE
High power crush heat engagers can die too
Bruh probably cause they guessed wrong
Rage art, power crush and chip damage need to go... They're officially not Tekken mechanics.
Getting punished for blocking correct against characters that spam more than others is bs. There are no good counter arguments... Not in Tekken.
Shills and casuals will argue like I haven't been here since the early games.
The entire point in TK was always clean gameplay where only the devils and bosses had powers. The rules have been broken, now there's nothing to appreciate about the main characters and the whole game is just anime nonsense.
Gaslighters will probably rush down from their choppers like the Mishima zaibatsu in the TK4 intro cos every time you say Tk (was for a fact.. a really obvious fact) never very much like an anime or a joke game, they pull out like 2 examples of joke characters or anime influence then project it onto 100% of the series when it was always dominated by and based on martial arts movies which should just be so insanely clear to see if you look at the first trilogy, back when it knew what it wanted to be and was driven by creative people rather than devs just trynna do business and keep their wages incoming.
The aura of the series has been taken away and I think new devs with a hunger to make games will have to be brought in to fix all of this.
@@MountainSoup-k8k naw dawg and to top it off kazuya has ZERO POWER CRUSH HEAT ENGAGERS!!!! Meaning I have to work twice as hard cuz all his engagers are on HIT not POWER CRUSH!!!!
@famusp1991 bruh so steve only has 1 and 2 to attack. Doesn't mean he needs more or even stronger moves. It means you adapt and play around his strengths and weaknesses. Same for kazyua, except all he needs is heat, and has his 50/50s to come to his rescue when you run out of ideas
Game is absolute crap. Glad I quit.
I’m playing Street Fighter 6 until Virtua Fighter 6.
So you inhale dumpster fire fumes to cover the rotting cheese smell.
@ have fun playing a garbage fighting game lol
Bro quit slop for slop and is acting like he won the presidential election
@@RosaryFGCthey never said anything about playing anything. You are strawmanning them because you have no real comeback to say. Show me where they ever said they play Tekken ? All they said was the same thing I said. You dropped slop for more slop and are acting like it's some grand achievement. Pull your head out of your rear and read correctly.
Out here acting like VF is gonna save you or something when it's likely gonna be more modernized slop like SF6 and T8, but you're gonna cope and tell yourself it isn't somehow.
Bye 👋
WHEN I tell you that I have enjoyed every second of this video. Literally, it's like you reading my thoughts. Well put together, everything was spot on
Game is trash just like the roster. Tekken 7 was better at LAUNCH than tekken 8 13 months later. No akuma or playable boss, chip damage & heat are cringe, the cancerous 1 & dones are amuck 24/7 & the netcode sucks
Lmao are you guys forgetting this game wasn't release in arcades like all the other games?
All the people saying get out of blue ranks before you speak need to understand rank don't mean shit in T8. Sure if your rank is low you probably have room to improve. Having a high rank is meaningless though. Even GoD is over run by players that can't move can't punish and mash at massively negative frames
Not only that but after playing so many Gods I learned all they care about is getting into heat asap.
Blue rank used to be and at least should be high af... So few people were getting blue back in Tag 2... Even TTM who was ten times smarter than all of these new players was at red for a while in Tag 2... Which was actually good af, better than blue is now.
It's dumb anyway and it's just a way of avoiding the truth. You don't need to be a master chef to know food is frozen...
You can still see moves function badly.
I hope TK shills are happy with themselves cos tons of people avoid the series cos they think they're smart and are annoying. I played for years and put in hundreds of hours but got my rank then just quit.
If I'm gunna grind hard af to keep scrub characters off me then the last thing I want is to have the scrub mains pretend there's absolutely nothing wrong with the way ever single thing they do is evasive
That's cope. Rank still means something.
@IvanOrdell hard to rank means something when most the high ranks literally don't know frames
Couldnt agree more, this game is a clown show. I only play it like once a week because its Tekken and I love Tekken but its the first game I just cant stand. Im GoD with Steve and some other characters but it doesnt even feel satisfying getting it in this game.
I lost interest when they brought Heihachi back. And not just brought him back, they retconned it that he never died. And never hit the lava [despite Kazuya watching him fall]
HERP DERP! I play FGs for the DogShxT plot! Scamco shouldn't bring *The Face* of Tekken, & one of the most popular FG characters of all time back, because the dumb plot said so.
You're an absolute clown. The kind of galaxy brain who thinks M.Bison and Akuma shouldn't be in SF, because they've "died" so many times.
Tekken doesn't exist without Heihachi, & it never will. Go back to Smash Bros lil bro.
They seem to be ignoring that in the anniversary trailer.
For me that hints they might ignore the DLC going forward.
Harada himself basically acknowledged the negative reaction to it and said he wished he had planned the story better
Also despite what the monks said
Heihachi himself implies they lied and that he went to Hell
They aren't trustworthy narrators
@newhybrid101 he shouldn't have been revived, period. He should be non canon going forward
Even as a Drag main I despise how aggressive this game is. I like how when I played Drag in 7 he would dominate the game but you still needed defense and I liked that, however in 8 it's just mash. I still play with that 7 style but i have way less luck than mashy drags so it's not fun.
I have about 250hrs in tekken 8 while 3k in tekken 7. No way im playing 3k hrs in 8. Its too frustrating at least in 7 it felt like i was losing and improving to better players.
exactly what I've been saying. This is a gambling game, not a fighting game lmao.
Couldn't agree more. You are absolutely right about this game. Everything about this game is aggression, 50/50, Heat mechanics, op things, and nothing else. People are leaving their mains and picking up S+ and Top 10 characters just to win. Not to mention, all they do is spam overpowered moves, power crush, heat burst, heat smash, mixups and then win. Even after winning, these toxic players will ki-charge/teabag and then do "one and done" and leaves. They think of themselves as the greatest Tekken player in the world, as if they won the match by playing fairly. More than half of the playerbase is toxic.
About game modes, offline mode is mostly non-existent because nobody plays it. It also lacks really good offline modes like Tekken force mode or scenario campaign like in Tekken 6, instead we got Tekken ball which nobody cares about.
Customization sucks in this game. It is even worse than Tekken 7. Customization only looks good because of the graphics. It contains very small no. of items. Then, the said items are very mediocre to worst. Same items with different textures, some items cannot be given desired colours, lack of types and varieties, no options for outer and inner parts, no custom hair making, etc.. What we should have got for free are now locked behind Tekken shop and Steam DLC. All of the legacy costumes and reused items from Tekken 5, 6, 7, and Tag 2 are purchasable, which were free in previous games. This is outright greedy.
Another thing that ruins T8 for me is Bamco making every character a basic stance rushdown gorilla and removing character's identity, like half of Steve's counterhits getting thanos snapped to irrelevancy and giving him a mixup stance nobody wanted, or taking cool shit from characters that gave them sauce (eg Jin's stance cancels and Drag's lack of viable power lows) and either dumbing them down to Pritt gluestick-eating levels of brainpower to execute or just removing them altogether.
The last thing people want to do is hop on ranked and fight 5 different characters with the same copy-paste hold this 50/50 gameplan, it's not only uninteractive but incredibly fucking monotonous and uninteresting.
Hopefully Bamco cuts off their excessive intake of galaxy gas and starts making their characters cool and unique again, but shit like that takes more than tweaking numbers, so I honestly don't know how much of a solution Bamco's gonna cook up, I just need my fuckass df2 to track or allow the Shiro combo or something (and for Victor to explode).
They really messed up Steve Fox. It's probably the worst he's ever been in a Tekken game. And the worst part is, it doesn't look like they're gonna fix it anytime soon.
Heat was never fun. I called it from the first trailer that it has no place in tekken.
Greed destroyed Tekken legacy, R.I.P Tekken we will miss you
Skill issue ☠️
Just kidding, i just hate heat and the backdash nerf
Screw Tekken 8, back to T7
You might as well just leave this game alone at this point.
Why?
@@nxzavianBecause it's like leaving a bad review in the middle of a restaurant WHILE you are eating the food youre talking shit about on Yelp and then obnoxiously scream at it to everyone how bad the food is whilst eating it. No one likes it. Complain out of love, don't act like it's the end all be all cause at that point JUST LEAVE. Just move on from Tekken and save your tears elsewhere. Let the people who want to play it make actual complaints instead of ranting and whining on the internet for views and clicks with clickbait shock value titles and fingerbaiting thumbnails 😂
@@megumareta6361 do you have complaints about this game
@@megumareta6361 ik im two days late but this is a really well-worded way to explain it. I saw Emery Reigns get mad at Mainman as well because he played Virtua Fighter like 5 times and kept shitting on it instead of leaving it alone lmao. It's sad that this do be getting actual views tho 😔
This is the only fighting game in my life beside DNF duel (happy its dead), where use of fundamentals is heavily discouraged/punished. game also needs a fucking anti cheat.
And this is why Virtual Fighter is making a come back a real true fighting game
yeah agreed 100% guv, i said all this day 1 and everyone looked at me like i was mental
Its like you had a stroke, took zanex and and broke your jaw all before speaking into your mic.
2:30 lmao sooo true 😭😭😭 this game is a f*cking joke and is not even funny 💀
Is not Even funny cuz You keep losing My bro 😂
Has nothing to do with winning or losing, I was commenting on the state of the competitive scene. You're just butthurt because the community is flaming your favorite game. But that's just me talking out of my ass like you.
Holly hell… I agree with everything said in this video 😂
Its a good game casually but not good competitively
yep, but how would you call a game that's made for offline play but offline play doesn't offer much?
persian steve at the beginning is crazy
Everyone’s so negative about every game nowadays. It’s only the beginning. It can only get better. I truly feel this game will go down as the best Tekken of all time.
This :)
Ofcourse i dnt know why everyone thinks can review games
I think you have skill issues this is the best tekken ever so stfu
who is your main?
Nah, they had 9 yrs to get it right. T8 is only a year old and the complaints have been nonstop about it. Sure it can get better, but this was highly anticipated and it’s a letdown for many. Even OG Tekken players say the same. They should have known better to release the game like this. Many players had issues in T7 that seemed to carry over. That game rewarded unga bunga as well. Now they have doubled down on the unga bunga in this one and made it more brain dead. I get they did it to attract newer players and all but it’s just a unga bunga fest now.
something the community also wont do is the older games have handicaps if people have a problem with the combo damage you can use the handicaps to make it take more hits to kill people that way 2 long combos and done doesnt happen as much
ye the game is ass i cant stand it. I miss tekken 7. Tekken 9 comes out in 9 years meaning this franchise is dead. Hopefully virtua fighter saves 3d figthers
I think Thorgi said it best. "Just take a break, and play other games."
Rangchu with Kuma was my only joy this game has given me.
Vid just needs “except Steve” sprinkled throughout and it’s perfect
This is my first Tekken and it feels so unfair specially against agressiv players, I agree with pretty much all you are saying, but also I love this game a lot. And I am really happy to hear that I have the old school Tekken style :) also I loose a lot against mad mashers who does not care that i'm on positive frames lmao
this video is speaking straight out of my soul, agree with every word bro
I smell a future LTG
😂 every night !
" every god damn night ! Look at those f-ing scrubs yolo ahh mashing all day ! 😅
Or also"Oh I should listen to TMM? How about 2 weeks ?"😂
I totally agree, the game is too agressive
some dude is gona get on here and comment skill issue☠
Skill issue GUV
Enjoyment issue. The game is just not fun anymore
skill issue
@@cbimz blocked 🚫
It’s doesn’t even look good bruv.
Aesthetically…what aesthetics 😂?
Exactly, seeing Clive in realistic stages like the beach stage for example, It looks like absolute trash, like no art direction at all
as newplayer i enjoy t8 man...
Tekken 7 was and is better than Tekken 8. Game wasn't as mess as Tekken 8's current state
It was just as bad. How quickly people forget.
I would feel the same way if I played this game since release and still stuck in Fujin
🐦🐦🐦🐦🐦
The game is dead only to older players and hard-core fans.
My main issue with Tekken is the lack of defensive options. It seems to want to reward mindless & aggressive players. Im a Raven player and it kills me that many of characters have spammable moves that arent punishable. Another gripe is the SFxT repetitive combos juggles that makes me just drop the controller and stop playing because it so damn long boring.
P.S. I hate simple model players.
No offense but u sound like LTG, a lot
Idk man these sound like reasoned arguments, not mindless btching
@@D_McGeezacksPersonally, I have enjoyed this game since launch and a lot of what he says mostly comes from not being able to adapt. Only part I agree with him is the micro transactions. Tournaments in Tekken7 were boing af to watch, seeing players shuffle for a whole minute was not enjoyable at all. Yes Tekken8 has some issues, but people have to realize this game is not like Tekken7 and i’m glad about it.
@@erkbus7049facts
Tekken Ball enjoyer right here 🖐️
Fingers crossed that Season two Wows us. 🤞
As a player who managed to achieve "tekken king" in ranked online, in Pakistan no less, I agree with this otherwise Fujin player lol. Even when I am winning, I dont enjoy it. The reward is just not there. Mostly, you win because of some gimmicky crap tools. I main devil jin and he is a gimmick king, straight up. Thats all he has and if you dont utilize his gimmicks, you are screwed big time because his traditional moveset sucks since he has been nerfed to hell. So yeah, I agree with this video 100%.
while previous tekken‘s were frustrating nothing is as frustrating as tekken 8 is
tekken previously had an answer or more for certain moves and how to counter, but now there are actual moves you can‘t do anything against except block and get chipped for blocking
the gameplay mechanics don‘t lead to a good flow but instead will always be „who‘s turn is it this time“ and that is a big problem now since now a lower skilled player can overwhelm a better player just by abusing bs
All they have to do is make armor cost heat and heat slowly recover. Bring back kbd.
All modern fgs want you to be in a blender with meager defense options just for new players to try the game but it pushes everyone from playing for a long time.
Since fgs rely on repetitive gameplay it HAS to be designed with how the players grow over the years or else it gets solved and boring after a year or two. But devs are do scared of turning off new players they lose everyone in 6 months to a year.
PS you can thank the failure of blue protocol gacha game for bandais munnie addiction.
@@PwnerGeist yeah you nailed it! It’s very short sighted… aggression might bring new players through the door (in the best case), but depth is needed to keep them playing, which this game has very little of
“You can spam armor all game shit is going to stick at some point” I think I’ll use this as am opportunity to talk about King
im tired of everyone whining i never bought the game because i knew it was going to be a 50 spam fest with broken moves if you guys truly hate the new game please make tournaments for the old games there is nothing stopping the community from doing that. Namco doesnt care everyone needs to stop making these videos they are never going to listen. New tekken is dead and thats okay we have like 5 great tekkens to choose from look at super smash bros melee its the best in the series people still play it and its almost if not more popular than ultimate nowadays. find the tekken that is the equivalent to super smash bros melee and have tournaments for it. the community needs to do something as a whole.
Dawg, WHO have you heard complain who hasent bought the game??? Please stop making make believe scenarios to fit your narrative when the people who have been playing or stopped playing are waiting on a balance patch. The game is in a terrible state, moves tracking is the biggest issue, it negates DEFENSE
You just said you never bought the game 😂😂😂😂
I want a remake of Tekken 4, Tekken 8 graphics but Tekken 4 gameplay with bugs fixed and limited juggles lol. Loved that game. The intro was awesome seeing kaz return. Fun times lol
Im in the same boat. I loved the stages and vibe of t4..and t6 as well.
Keep dreaming, will not happend
thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you
this needs way more views.
6:48 The lee can sure duck kazuya's mid into high punch so well but when it comes to punishing it with a launch combo, he plays like a yellow rank lmao. What a waste.
The prowes is still jacked up, i had 140k playing someone with 200k+ big gap
If Tekken 7 graphics was like tekken 8 i would of chosen to play Tekken 7 instead and the tournaments better than Tekken 8 tournament I wasn't fully invested in Tekken 8 tournament because i didn't get a high tension and the adrenaline rush like i felt in Tekken 7 tournament
I'm on ps and the only problem I had with 7 was load times
5:22 the timing with what you’re saying and what was happening in the background was so accurate
Not hit confirming 1,1,2 and then Leo not launching 1,1,2
Was that intentional
the problem with Tekken 8 is heat and chip
Generally in this game every character obtain easy counterhits and putting effort on certain strings for ducking is not a good thing becouse from one string every character can perform grab , low, guard break, low launch , even if you recognize a string doesnt matter becouse that string is formed by 50/50 you find your self in preassure all the time ....but im still playing it i left mk1 for a reason and if virtua fighter will be a good martial arts game without fire, electric and reward players for dedication without losing in less than 15 sec it will be nice.
They need to add armor king trust
I wonder how they would balance him with all these unga bunga characters now. AK doesn’t have a lot of tools so unless they fundamentally change him, he may feel dated to play in T8. Just my opinion though.
They ruined King in this game… I fear for AK… with his redesign in T7 they struck gold… chances are they will fu@% it up in this game.
@@X2GrindTekkenthe hell u talking about ruining King... He's the best designed he's ever been in the series... Before he was just all over the place with just a bunch of wrestling moves... Now he has an actual purposeful game design focused on being a juggernaut of a grappler that powers through people... An actual focused character design
@ yeah… spamming muscle armour, amour, heat smash into one of the top 3 most brain dead mixups online is good design… also how literally all Kings play the same caused by how he was designed… yeah he is the best he has ever been 😂 Juggernaut… the BS you are talking sounds like some marketing jargon from Bamco… realty is King feels gimmicky and cringe… unless you play him and only understand the games mechanics up to red ranks 😂😂😂
@X2GrindTekken lol actually yapping nonsense... U wanna talk about top 3 brain dead mixups how bout u spouting the top 3 most brain dead excuses to cry about a character... "OMG he's spamming the same moves, OMG he always play the same, OMG he has brain-dead mixups" 😂 classic... Ur level of self awareness is at an all time low... Never mind u don't even play the character so u actually DON'T KNOW how to play him... Ur only complaining coz u eat the same shit every time so yeah it might as well be the same to u... Also way too many emojis... Ur acting trying to cope so hard by spamming emojis
Why not wait till season 2 before making such declarations? Tekken 7 had many different eras, Tekken 8 is bound to be the same
The 3D FG scene is kind of limited. Outside of Tekken you got Dead or Alive, Soul Calibur and Virtua Fighter. Which may seem like a lot, but all those games differ so much that they attract different sort of players. So if you do not like T8, you better start liking something else. lol
Its almost as if you are fighting actual human beings...
Tbh. Yagamis comeback against Chanel was absolut cinema to watch. In my opinnion it was the greatest display of "pure" tekken gameplay, and adaptation this whole season. I might be biased, because I also play Reina, but you just can't deny how amazing that set vas to watch.
Heihachi in heat is also a problem talk about that please, and they have to remove the extra combo u get when u pop heat mid combo
I don't know in what world an old man in heat isn't a problem.
@@happycat4838😂😂😂😂
I feel like exclusively playing any fighting game right now is gonna drive you crazy eventually. I got so sick of sf6 and throw loops I never wanna touch that game again. Nothing wrong with taking a break and playing something different if you're burned out.
The thing is that a lot of FG players typically only play their one game and then develop an insane amount of Stockholm syndrome towards the game they play thus they end up like this guy where they hate the game they play but can't quit cause they don't wanna pick up another game.
And what people dont even realize either is that EVERY fighting game has nonsense in it that will get you upset after a while. But people will act like their game is somehow the biggest offender and act as if going somewhere else won't have its own share of problems.
Deliriously over! 😍
What *I* can’t withstand about the most with Tekken 8 is how they’ve butchered both Lili & Asuka! Sure they’ve also butchered some other characters, but in my opinion, Asuka and Lili were the most butchered! If we look back at Tekken 5, Asuka Kazama had potential in her arc, where she had the ability to nullify the devil gene inside Jin, meaning she had some relevance to the Mishima/Kazama family. But instead they did her dirty by scraping all of it, and made her where she just has the last name and nothing else! Lili on the other hand, she seemed interesting, a French girl wishing to be the strongest, and helping her father, but Bandai Namco just reverted her to a spoiled brat! What’s worse for the both of them is their rivalry! It’s just repetitive and so annoying! It’s like a lesbian drama in a nutshell (not saying I’m against lesbians, I strongly respect lesbians!)! Overall Asuka and Lili’s relationship, rivalry and overall story arcs were entirely butchered, because I feel like Bandai Namco doesn’t care about Tekken anymore!
I only play ranked up until tekken king as you get to play top level players. The ranked point system once at tekken king is so badly designed. As a lili main on my channel it's so frustrating that you know you go up against broken characters over and over. There are rarely specialist players in those ranks anymore to get matched with. I play quick match and tekken lounge now
The day Tekken went to unreal engine it was all downhill from here
Really starting to think the internet and by extension online gaming spaces are a mistake. It’s creates this wide reaching space where people enter these echo chambers and feed off each other’s constant negativity. The way games are talked about, and interacted with are done in such a negative way. And if it was just Tekken 8 it’d be one thing (I still think many are being overly negative about the game) but this sort of thing happens with so many other games. Not saying devs can’t make improvements and when it but I don’t think enough people in these spaces actually hold others accountable as far as checking them for having unrealistic expectations and ignoring that fact that in this games case they have been working hard to consistently update the game, add new content, ect and that’s not acknowledged nearly enough. Most just want to piss and moan like entitled children as if that’s going to help anyone enjoy the game or help the game improve. Sadly I think too many are attracted to negative talk and there’s not a game out there that these types won’t rip apart no matter what.
Your right but your saying that In the wrong space. Tekken 8 is a well made game with a lot of hard work put in to it. That being said, the gameplay and every other mechanic was made on purpose. What I mean by that is, tekken 8 is a game designed for weaker players to beat stronger players, any one above average skill has already realized this and its something the pros saw right away but it's being swept under the rug by the bigger content creators. The game is just not competitive or as intricate as past titles
@ Right, so my question is when does the acceptance kick in? If everyone is aware of this then why the rampant complaining still? It’s been a year. For example imagine the transition from Super Smash Bros Melee, to Brawl, the seasoned melee players play the new game, and keep complaining that Brawl isn’t as “competitive” as melee yet they keep playing and complaining about it. Thats pretty much what’s happening here. Either accept that Tekken 8 is Tekken 8 or don’t play. It’s that easy.
@riotron1026 so... you're just tired of the complaining? Turn off your phone then. Tekken 8, feels like it could be fixed. Because it's a fun game, fun series. If you don't understand that, then I don't know. Unless you sympathize with the faceless million dollar company or just don't even play tekken that way. Also brawl was made, what, 10 years? 15 years ago? It's a relatively old game, apples and oranges here they're not even the same type of fighting game, not to mention made and played by different people
@@MountainSoup-k8k True. I could. And honestly should. Though it sucks when the complaints are damn near inescapable. See some random tekken 8 content, guess what, chock full of pissing and moaning. Not all the time but a lot of the time. Yes the game could use more key improvements but these concerns are hardly addressed in a way that doesn’t come off as…well…bitching. People just love to gather and focus more on the negatives than the positives. Also I think my smash bros example works. Yes the game is old but that’s hardly relevant when looking at the context of the example.
@@riotron1026 Then leave and go enjoy the game then. You people with your toxic postivity are cringe.
house got blasted from outro W video
You do not play to win. You do not understand the essential structure of mind games. An overly aggressive player is very easy to dismantle in this game. This is WHY pros will give up rounds to get information on the opponent. It is entirely set up to where you can set up spacing and defenses before they start their assault. Heat is very well-balanced outside select niche situations. People were complaining about tekken 7 tournaments too ya know. It's the natural cycle of any new fighting game. It's hated until its loved years later once it is finally understood. The majority of players do not understand how this game fundamentally works and can't interface properly with its systems. If everyone has such strong tools and that's why it's not winnable for you, then you don't understand how to apply the tools to your own benefit.
Just let the other hard stuck fujin you're fighting waste his resources. Respond appropriately. If you are overwhelmed, frankly you don't have the knowledge to deal with it.
There's nothing "blatantly broken" about Jin. And no i'm not a "jin main". He has zero broken moves and just doing his staple combo of b3~f1, bf2, 3~f, u1 takes more thought, timing, and skill than anyone else in the S tier takes.
But good video otherwise.
Absolutely, he's not even close to Alisa for example, he Is more broken compared to Tekken 7 but he's not broken
Jin, skill and thought in the same sentence is funny. But no, his heat smash on block is ridiculous and everyone knows it, a really good poking string that I don’t even have to name off cause everyone KNOWS what string it is at this point. Even if we are gonna cope and say he’s not broken he gets rewarded for everything without needed any execution for any of his moves or combos. I remember picking him up just to see how easy it’d be to climb, and aside from yoshi jin was by FAR the quickest climb I’ve ever had and that was off JUST his heat smash.
Ahahah Jin is broken beyond compare. His heat smash is bullcrap, the pushback after hit takes you to a wall where you are going to eat a wall combo just cuz you got hit by a heat smash? That has crap written all over it. Other than that, he has too many safe high strings which even after ducking, cannot be punished but just interrupted most of the times. Lastly, his two jabs (idk the input cuz i dont main this cancer) which are vital for wall bound have tooo much wall carry on them, more than 90% of the roster.
Ah yes heat smash isn't the most broken move in any fighting game ever.
Also big man don't pretend you are not a jin main. This is honestly more cringe than the fucking tekken shop
@GuvXIV when we playing bro? I hate this game too but its only cos of Steve fox im still playing. 🥊
I agree. Blue ranks Fujin to Bushin are all bummy playstyle. There are some with good fundamentals but man most just use Heat burst when panicking and try to land heat smash to try and come back lmao
Toning down heat is a good idea I think all heat smash needs damage nerfing I think heat burst need a nerf as well rage Needs a damage nerf as well heat engager plus frame needs a nerf down lower no normal moves should be so plus 5 + at max on non counter hit and no 50/50 after heat smash block either also big nerf on wall damage and taking away some of those high crush moves
Also those armour heat engager need to go and those top tear needs nerfing Jin / yoshi / Alyssa / shaheem / yoshi / Nina / law / more better quality items need to be made if u want me to pay Money
And some more game modes they need to do something with the tekken lounge let’s hope season 2 fixes some of these at the very least
Playing SF6 for 2 hours? Jeez, that is rough
Playing tekken 8 for 2 hours ? Jeez, that is rough
20 Mina is too long tbh
I want infinite rematch I win more on law by just doing slide mixup over and over instead of actually playing vs my opponent
adding josie will save the game
On a serious note, tekken isnt that bad lmao
As a Viewer I would love to watch the Guv play Hwoarang ranked :)
i just wanna be forever dragon's rank 4ever, Garyu-Tenryu, those guys are real, can enjoy the game, with no bs, same skill issue not knowning all frame data etc. having fun atleast, but when you get Ruler, all changing, people are smarter better stronger)
But they removed chickens so there's a buff for defensive characters?
Just kidding, Harada has brain worms and it's so surreal to watch Tekken constant decline in quality after T4.
Ironically all of the complaints about Tekken 8 is all I've ever known about Tekken I haven't really known it as any other game.
Granted this is why when I returned to Tekken 6 the game was very foreign to me.
Play T5. It'll be a huge culture shock, but in a good way.
I hate to say this but maybe it’s time for a new Tekken director
Tekken 8 is the first time tekken came straight to consoles. Usually tekken hit arcades for a year or two first then the refined and polished version went to consoles. Even t7 was an arcade game during it's real first launch. T8 as it stands is the arcade version, that is to say, a paid beta. Season 2 forward will be very different and more refined. Not perfect but most likely much better than now.
Nah, I loved the vibe of this vid 😂 New sub!
those 10 seconds fights lol soon as u hit somebody maybe 10 times the match is over. i think its to overpowered. sf6 and mk1 matches last way longer
Fighting game community is fucked if cotw does not deliver.
It’s not over in any way,stop exaggerating