You are literally flipping the axle here (left to right). Glad you are doing it the right way, but this is how an axle flip is done, when done correctly. Good on you.
Sweet dude, hopefully i can find a pop up. I welded perches on my boat trailer. Never again will i cut and weld them back on. Save time buy them for 20 bucks and spend the time wasted by camping
Nicely done. That's the right way to do it. I remember working at RV shops years ago and doing this process a lot! We didn't have the kits at the time but kept a stock of the spring perches and U-bolts.
I’m thinking about doing a small lift and maybe a slightly larger tire in my 21ft camper. I can’t even get in and out of my driveway which is not even steep without dragging my jacks. I also have to have my load distribution stabilizer bars loose when pulling in and out. It’s a total pain in the ass. These manufacturers really need to take more time and consider real world driving conditions and pay more attention to those exit angles.
It does not matter how new or old U-Bolts are. Most U-Bolts are rolled threads, not cut threads. They deform when torqued and are not designed to be torqued twice. This is a direct quoted from the mechanical engineers at Eaton Detroit Springs, "The threads of most U-bolts are rolled, not cut, and when the nuts are torqued to the manufacturer’s specs, the threads become somewhat deformed. More damage is done to the threads when the nuts are removed. When trying to re-use u-bolts, the depth of the threads are less than what they should be, therefore obtaining and maintaining the correct torque may be impossible." According to engineering standards and the manufactureers, U-bolts should not be reused no matter how new they are. I will admit, I did it before I knew better.
The kit that you got it not the one for your trailers axle tube diameter. Never turn any of the spring hanger bolts until the splines have been pushed out of the hanger. If you stripped the splines on the bolt you might want to put a tack weld on the head of the bolt.
Great video. I have a new popup of the same brand. I am looking to do the same. Where in the frame did you place jacks? I understand using the levelers to jack is not great. Did you use other jacks to raise the trailer? Thanks!!
The whole time i was scratching my head because he was doing an axel flip and saying he wasn’t then he decided to go with the weaker parts and knew he didn’t know what the F he was doing. Looks a little better though.
Incorrect an axle flip would be leaving the stock perches alone and flipping the axle literally. This is a spring over conversion kit. The cheaper way to do this is cut the old perches and weld new ones on if someone has a welder handy.
That makes absolutely no sense except to the ignorant. The axle has the bend because its a weight rated axle they use. Same one for smaller cargo trailers. Thats so they can carry weight. A popup will never ahve that much weight on it and the bend is not extreme enough to mess with drivabikity. Flip your acle, dont pay stupid money for a useless kit unless youre doing it on some type of cargo trailer. Ive flipped multiple popups and there are ZERO issues with it.
Additionally you're welding the perch you bought when you had 2 free. If the bend is that big of a deal, you could have cut the old perches off easy and just flipped them. Smh
Did you even watch the video? We did NOT flip the axle. We lifted it and put on larger tires to increase the clearance so we do not bottom out when taking it off-road.
Looks good... Adding a bigger tyre... Doest it reduce the clearance.. As the smaller tyre gives you more clearence in wheel hud...
Yes more clearance. The axle is higher because of the larger tires, but the camper is much higher
what are you frying in the background? Looks great with the lift. Can it be installed without welding?
Rain in the background, in Phoenix no less. Not sure on doing without a weld. Out on my lane there.
Could you share the larger tire size please?
link.???
Link for what?
Welding? I think not!
What?
What size tire/wheel did you go up to?
What size were your stock tires and what size did you go with after the lift?
You are literally flipping the axle here (left to right).
Glad you are doing it the right way, but this is how an axle flip is done, when done correctly. Good on you.
Did you even watch the video? He literally did NOT flip the axle?
Sweet dude, hopefully i can find a pop up. I welded perches on my boat trailer. Never again will i cut and weld them back on. Save time buy them for 20 bucks and spend the time wasted by camping
At first I thought you recorded this in a bowl of rice crispy’s. Good video.
It was actually a pan with bacon 🥓 sizzling
Just recording on a 10 plus year old Flip Phone Recorder. Time to upgrade
@@ARSERR I wish....BACON!!
You need to show how it performed on the trail!! Great video.
Will do!
Here is what I used. Check to make sure you have the right size of U bolt.
What tire size did you upgrade to?
Nicely done. That's the right way to do it. I remember working at RV shops years ago and doing this process a lot! We didn't have the kits at the time but kept a stock of the spring perches and U-bolts.
Thanks Carley!
Running lol fab I'm know my uyc
Give me a clearance, Clarence.
I’m thinking about doing a small lift and maybe a slightly larger tire in my 21ft camper. I can’t even get in and out of my driveway which is not even steep without dragging my jacks. I also have to have my load distribution stabilizer bars loose when pulling in and out. It’s a total pain in the ass. These manufacturers really need to take more time and consider real world driving conditions and pay more attention to those exit angles.
Agree. We did a lot of off road and dirt road camping and stock was just too low to the ground
It does not matter how new or old U-Bolts are. Most U-Bolts are rolled threads, not cut threads. They deform when torqued and are not designed to be torqued twice. This is a direct quoted from the mechanical engineers at Eaton Detroit Springs, "The threads of most U-bolts are rolled, not cut, and when the nuts are torqued to the manufacturer’s specs, the threads become somewhat deformed. More damage is done to the threads when the nuts are removed. When trying to re-use u-bolts, the depth of the threads are less than what they should be, therefore obtaining and maintaining the correct torque may be impossible." According to engineering standards and the manufactureers, U-bolts should not be reused no matter how new they are. I will admit, I did it before I knew better.
You are correct
Thanks for the info
Wow, thanks for that info. I didnt know that.
I just bought new spring perches for 10$ and used all existing hardware as my trailer was brand new as well
…and welded them I hope !
I think you ordered the kit for a 3 inch axle instead of the 2 3/8. I noticed it before you welded the bracket.
Yea, I did not notice until the install. The original U bolts were just fine since the camper was brand new
@@fatmantoironman ubolts are single-use install items. Torque-to-yield. Always replace them if they’ve been torqued.
@@fishhuntadventure thanks for the information
Will you make more videos to come about the camper? Thank you for the video very good.
I had to pee in the first 23 seconds of watching this
Thanks for letting everyone know
Looks much better !!
Way cool thx
Thanks!
Did you ever get bigger leveling Jacks?
Did not need them. The current Jacks work just fine
Sure would like to know what size tire you have on there now? It looks like you went from a 12” to 14-15”
The kit that you got it not the one for your trailers axle tube diameter. Never turn any of the spring hanger bolts until the splines have been pushed out of the hanger. If you stripped the splines on the bolt you might want to put a tack weld on the head of the bolt.
Yes, thanks for mentioning that
Why don't factories just do this?
I do not know?
Thinking about doing the same thing can I ask what size tire did you go to?
I do not recall the size offhand. I am sure if you look at the tires in the video you will see the size
Great video. I have a new popup of the same brand. I am looking to do the same. Where in the frame did you place jacks? I understand using the levelers to jack is not great. Did you use other jacks to raise the trailer? Thanks!!
You just did an axle flip. The bow in the axle always stays the same. You don’t actually flip it. Lift flip it’s all the same thing.
Not the same thing
This in the off-road community is called a Spring Over Axle or SOA lift.
@@fatmantoironman it’s the same if you keep the bow in the same position
The whole time i was scratching my head because he was doing an axel flip and saying he wasn’t then he decided to go with the weaker parts and knew he didn’t know what the F he was doing. Looks a little better though.
That’s cool!
Is welding recommended with the kit or was that personal preference
This kit was definitely made to attach to the old spring perch with bolts. This kit was not meant to be welded. Dude threw away money here.
Nice job very useful
Did you get an off-road hitch too?
No just your regular hitch. Would an "off road" hitch be better?
It would give you a lot more articulation
You are probably right. Something to look into. Thanks for mentioning it,
Not supposed reuse u-bolts, that is why the kit comes with them
You're right. However, the camper was brand new (2 months old) . I think they will be just fine
Great video. Do you have the link to the pafrt ypu got from Amazon?
Got it from Amazon, just make sure you get the right U bolt size
This is all well and fine, but what did you do as far as your stabilizer jacks go?
Did not have to do anything with the stabilizer jacks, they worked just fine
@@jeffbanas7391 reached ok? I have a bent up one on my 97 coleman and think I might swap styles.
@@kuhndog-1196 No problems at all with the height
Thanks for the reply.
That’s an axle flip
Incorrect an axle flip would be leaving the stock perches alone and flipping the axle literally. This is a spring over conversion kit. The cheaper way to do this is cut the old perches and weld new ones on if someone has a welder handy.
@@crazydavereddawg Exactly, thanks for the feedback
That makes absolutely no sense except to the ignorant. The axle has the bend because its a weight rated axle they use. Same one for smaller cargo trailers. Thats so they can carry weight. A popup will never ahve that much weight on it and the bend is not extreme enough to mess with drivabikity. Flip your acle, dont pay stupid money for a useless kit unless youre doing it on some type of cargo trailer. Ive flipped multiple popups and there are ZERO issues with it.
Additionally you're welding the perch you bought when you had 2 free. If the bend is that big of a deal, you could have cut the old perches off easy and just flipped them. Smh
Did you even watch the video? We did NOT flip the axle. We lifted it and put on larger tires to increase the clearance so we do not bottom out when taking it off-road.
@@jeffbanas7391 yes I watched it. Reread the comments....slowly. it was a ridiculous waste of money.
@@feellnfroggy You have no clue. It was raised to give more clearance for off road. We did not flip the axel.
@@mericaoutdooradventures2360 I know genius. You should have ang saved thr money. Can you not read?