The video I have been waiting for 🙂, Thanks Alex! I think the 50 mm APO from Leica is a great lens but the new 50 mm... they wanted to make an 'entry-level’ lens, too bad they went with the Panasonic lens for that 🙃. I have not yet had the chance to try Sigma's 50mm myself but it is definitely on my list. Sigma's 35 mm is also a very nice lens, only the vignetting is something you have to adjust all the time.
Thanks again, Alex. Great comparison. I use the 50 Lux-SL on my SL2, but I also purchased the Lumix S 50 for my SL2-S at less than $300. That is still a great option esp. when you do video. It has almost no focus breathing compared to the Sigmas. You must really love Leica to opt for the Cron-SLs. At that price it is a poor deal every which way you look at it. Even with the combo discount it is way overpriced. I’d save myself a lot of money and buy the Sigma or the Lumix. Or continue saving up money and go for the APOs. In my view, Leica should focus on the top end and leave the mid-range to Sigma ans Panasonic. Perhaps even throw in some combo discounts with a Sigma lens…? Make L-Mount Alliance a bit commercial as well ;-)
I'm just jumping into the SL system and appreciate this comparison. For me, like you, I love the the size of the sigma and the addition of an aperture ring. But looking at the raw files, I 100% prefer the Leica in every shot. IMO; Better contrast and colour. Bokeh I know is subjective, but the Leica has sharper and more rounded bokeh balls that are more pleasing to my eye, where as the sigmas bokeh just looks mushy. There's more filmic softness to the subjects rendering, that I prefer way more for what I shoot. Portraits of friends and family. Perhaps for architecture and landscape the sigma would be the way-to-go, but for me the Summicron wins by some margin. Worth 2K more? For me, probably, that's the kicker. Thanks for the review and sample photos.
I ended up getting the sigma for my sl2s. I do find the sigma to have bit too much of contrast straight out of camera. I do like the neutrality of the Leica even though is not as sharp. Like you said sigma is the way to go for the price and quality. Thanks for sharing
Nice review. 😄But background beeing almost identical? In my eyes the Sigma looks significantly smoother. There's less outlining in bokeh balls and the tiny bit longer focal length also makes them a bit larger as well. I'm a Sony shooter myself and I should have this Sigma in my hands today. A huge fan of the i-series. This lens beeing such sharp AND with a smooth bokeh makes it a great "3d pop" lens.
That’s a great comparison vid! I was not expecting that… it’s a shame that Leica doesn’t make more compact lenses for a good price… it seems you have to be able to afford the sl summilux if you want to make the most out of the sl. I personally got a sigma fp so I’m chuffed I have a potentially very good looking system that I can just throw in my bag and the guy with the $6000 sl2 will have potentially inferior images
Thanks for the comparison! Unfortunately, one important point is missing: AF-C performance! At least the LUMIX S 50 is way superior to any Sigma lens I have so far. Any comments on this?
This proves that the Sigma is sharper in the centre at f2 than the Leica. But what about the corners? Also, what about other apertures? That would be the real test for a lens, unless a centred subject fully opened is one's sole mode of picture-taking.
The question is whether the sharpness is the only determinative factor when assessing the quality of the lens. I use Sony cameras with full set of Loxia lenses and Sigma 65mm and 35mm. I prefer Loxia for their colours and skin smoothness, but I also use Sigma for B+W photographs, because they are very sharp. I also use Sony lenses, zooms mainly, for work but they are too sharp and clinical. I have some of the photographs taken with all those lenses on Instagram and Facebook and if anyone want to see the results let me know and I will send you the link.
Thanks for doing this! How was the AF performance between the two? You didn’t really get into that. Curious how the Sigma would hold up against the 50 APO.
I bought the 45mm 2.8 for my s9 and I was amazed at the quality and rendering and I was thinking in the back of the head this lens feels like leica 😂 and your review on the 50 confirms my thoughts which BYW ordered one for the s9iiX body. Crazy that the Leica one is so big yet more expensive and inferior. Something went wrong over at Leica
I find that most leica sensor/lens combos I've found produce the most pleasing colors (and true to my eye) that I can find in the digital world. It's disappointing how soft the summicron is but IMO the color and overall look is more pleasing than the sigma. The real steal is the Panasonic 50mm! Those sigmas as a full kit are hard to beat.
Thank you very much for your valuable lens comparison. Summicron is knocked out, but Leica's lens is said to be excellent in reproducibility of depth and three-dimensional effect. I wonder if there is a difference.
@@ABarrera That's good! Also there's not so much information about SL2-S's AF performance with all firmware updates. Would like to see know the camera handles running people, dogs, cars etc. (nothing too complicated). What's your opinion about that? Thanks.
th-cam.com/video/FOiYk3eJfDE/w-d-xo.html Bokeh is not very similar here, the Sigma is way smoother, but the "Leica" has more character, some would say busy, but I prefer it. Had the Lumix 50mm, got the Sigma 65mm, and while the Sigma is way smoother, and sharper, I kinda preferred the images from the Lumix, just rendered nicer. However, got the 50mm 1.4 DG DN now, and it beats both in ever single way, sharp corner to corner, bot not clinical like the 65mm, and amazing bokeh, so smooth but with character, not just like if you add a blur filter in PS...
Said every single way, forgot the new 1.4 DG DN has a bit more CA than the 65mm, but not something I ever see in real world examples, Mr Undone made it sound like it was terrible like a 50mm 1.4 from 1967. Way less than Lumix and "Leica" 50mm.
You are knocking it out of the park on these lens reviews! Thank you!
As a Doctor, I can safely conclude that Alex is physically stronger than Jared Polin.
Jared smells stronger I’m sure.
😂😂😂😂 I second that 😂😂😂 Jared is loosing energy while saying ellllllllllll mounnnnnnnt Alliance😂
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Sigma has been pumping out some fantastic glass as of late. Was not expecting the results to go the way it did lol. Great comparison as always Alex!
The video I have been waiting for 🙂, Thanks Alex! I think the 50 mm APO from Leica is a great lens but the new 50 mm... they wanted to make an 'entry-level’ lens, too bad they went with the Panasonic lens for that 🙃. I have not yet had the chance to try Sigma's 50mm myself but it is definitely on my list. Sigma's 35 mm is also a very nice lens, only the vignetting is something you have to adjust all the time.
Alex, good job, a comparison would be nice to see - Sigma DN DG 50mm 1.4 and Sigma 50mm F2 DG DN
Sigma did a matchup themselves here on TH-cam spoiler alert f2 wins
Thanks again, Alex. Great comparison. I use the 50 Lux-SL on my SL2, but I also purchased the Lumix S 50 for my SL2-S at less than $300. That is still a great option esp. when you do video. It has almost no focus breathing compared to the Sigmas. You must really love Leica to opt for the Cron-SLs. At that price it is a poor deal every which way you look at it. Even with the combo discount it is way overpriced. I’d save myself a lot of money and buy the Sigma or the Lumix. Or continue saving up money and go for the APOs. In my view, Leica should focus on the top end and leave the mid-range to Sigma ans Panasonic. Perhaps even throw in some combo discounts with a Sigma lens…? Make L-Mount Alliance a bit commercial as well ;-)
In the early days of the SL2S, the camera was bundled with the Sigma 24-70 in Australia. So a Leica Sigma bundle already has a precedent.
pretty cool. Just got a SL with the 50/2 Sigma. Just amazing
My theory is that the I-series was initially intended to be branded as Leica for the L-mount.
I'm just jumping into the SL system and appreciate this comparison. For me, like you, I love the the size of the sigma and the addition of an aperture ring. But looking at the raw files, I 100% prefer the Leica in every shot. IMO; Better contrast and colour. Bokeh I know is subjective, but the Leica has sharper and more rounded bokeh balls that are more pleasing to my eye, where as the sigmas bokeh just looks mushy. There's more filmic softness to the subjects rendering, that I prefer way more for what I shoot. Portraits of friends and family. Perhaps for architecture and landscape the sigma would be the way-to-go, but for me the Summicron wins by some margin. Worth 2K more? For me, probably, that's the kicker. Thanks for the review and sample photos.
Thanks Alex - this review is super helpful to me in putting together an AF lens selection for my SL2-S.
I ended up getting the sigma for my sl2s. I do find the sigma to have bit too much of contrast straight out of camera. I do like the neutrality of the Leica even though is not as sharp. Like you said sigma is the way to go for the price and quality. Thanks for sharing
Get the 50mm 1.4 DG DN, not clinical at 1.4 but sharp corner to corner, bokeh is amazing, and it's not heavier than the real Leica 2.0...
The contrast can be corrected in PS.
Great review, Alex! Not expected the result )
Nice review. 😄But background beeing almost identical? In my eyes the Sigma looks significantly smoother. There's less outlining in bokeh balls and the tiny bit longer focal length also makes them a bit larger as well. I'm a Sony shooter myself and I should have this Sigma in my hands today. A huge fan of the i-series. This lens beeing such sharp AND with a smooth bokeh makes it a great "3d pop" lens.
agree
That’s a great comparison vid! I was not expecting that… it’s a shame that Leica doesn’t make more compact lenses for a good price… it seems you have to be able to afford the sl summilux if you want to make the most out of the sl. I personally got a sigma fp so I’m chuffed I have a potentially very good looking system that I can just throw in my bag and the guy with the $6000 sl2 will have potentially inferior images
It would be super cool to see the same comparison but with the new 35mm sumicron and the sigma 35mm dg dn f2
Nice review man. Can't wait for the M summicron comparison!
Maybe it‘s just me but in this comparison, I clearly preferred the Leica image every time.
It’s all about the users preference in the end.
Didn’t expect this. Thx.
Can you do this comparison but with the 35mm F2 sigma and Leica?
Thanks for the comparison! Unfortunately, one important point is missing: AF-C performance! At least the LUMIX S 50 is way superior to any Sigma lens I have so far. Any comments on this?
AF performed the same on both lenses. I should add I only tested them for photo and not video.
Great review and it is very helpful. I really appreciate to your effort making a video. I am a big fan to your channel.
This proves that the Sigma is sharper in the centre at f2 than the Leica. But what about the corners? Also, what about other apertures? That would be the real test for a lens, unless a centred subject fully opened is one's sole mode of picture-taking.
The question is whether the sharpness is the only determinative factor when assessing the quality of the lens. I use Sony cameras with full set of Loxia lenses and Sigma 65mm and 35mm. I prefer Loxia for their colours and skin smoothness, but I also use Sigma for B+W photographs, because they are very sharp. I also use Sony lenses, zooms mainly, for work but they are too sharp and clinical. I have some of the photographs taken with all those lenses on Instagram and Facebook and if anyone want to see the results let me know and I will send you the link.
Thanks for doing this! How was the AF performance between the two? You didn’t really get into that. Curious how the Sigma would hold up against the 50 APO.
For photo AF performance was identical. I did not test it for video.
@@ABarrera ok - I remember how much you loved the AF on the PannyLeica in the other review. That gives me a pretty good idea. Thank you!
I bought the 45mm 2.8 for my s9 and I was amazed at the quality and rendering and I was thinking in the back of the head this lens feels like leica 😂 and your review on the 50 confirms my thoughts which BYW ordered one for the s9iiX body. Crazy that the Leica one is so big yet more expensive and inferior. Something went wrong over at Leica
I find that most leica sensor/lens combos I've found produce the most pleasing colors (and true to my eye) that I can find in the digital world. It's disappointing how soft the summicron is but IMO the color and overall look is more pleasing than the sigma. The real steal is the Panasonic 50mm! Those sigmas as a full kit are hard to beat.
Hey Alex, any idea how the Lumix 50 1.8 stacks up in comparison to the sigma f2?
The Lumix and Summicron are the same optical design. The results would be the same :)
@@ABarrera thanks for the quick reply!
Whst about micro contrast any difference? Here
I prefer the color of the skin of the Leica. But, as a Sony A7RIII user, I will choose for the Sigma :-)
@1:56 isn't that the e-mount version?
Is it too sharp for portraits? That’s what some other reviewers are saying.
This is the way 🔥
After watching your reviews I am starting to think that the Leica SL are really re-branded Sigma lenses.
Rebranded Panasonic more likely!
For a moment, I thought I clicked my gym class videos by mistake...😅
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I prefer how the Leica renders the image more
Thank you very much for your valuable lens comparison.
Summicron is knocked out, but Leica's lens is said to be excellent in reproducibility of depth and three-dimensional effect.
I wonder if there is a difference.
What about autofocus performance on SL2 body?
AF performed the same on both lenses with the SL2s. . I should add I only tested them for photo and not video.
@@ABarrera That's good! Also there's not so much information about SL2-S's AF performance with all firmware updates. Would like to see know the camera handles running people, dogs, cars etc. (nothing too complicated). What's your opinion about that? Thanks.
i feel like selling all my sony primes and buying the whole lineup
Sigma is over sharp !
Not that the sigma couldn't be sharper. But how unsharp the Leica is, especially for the money, I really think you've got a bad copy..
Don’t forget this Leica lens is essentially a Panasonic lens rebadged
@@ABarrera Doesnt matter.. for that price it should be at least okay sharpness. Those photos are not acceptable for me as a commercial photographer.
Exactly, buy the sigma! No bad copy on the Leica side I guarantee that
@@ABarrera ok! It looked a bit better in you comparison between the leica 50s (summi, apo and lux)
th-cam.com/video/FOiYk3eJfDE/w-d-xo.html Bokeh is not very similar here, the Sigma is way smoother, but the "Leica" has more character, some would say busy, but I prefer it. Had the Lumix 50mm, got the Sigma 65mm, and while the Sigma is way smoother, and sharper, I kinda preferred the images from the Lumix, just rendered nicer. However, got the 50mm 1.4 DG DN now, and it beats both in ever single way, sharp corner to corner, bot not clinical like the 65mm, and amazing bokeh, so smooth but with character, not just like if you add a blur filter in PS...
Said every single way, forgot the new 1.4 DG DN has a bit more CA than the 65mm, but not something I ever see in real world examples, Mr Undone made it sound like it was terrible like a 50mm 1.4 from 1967. Way less than Lumix and "Leica" 50mm.