This was a very helpful review. I love the compact size and low price of the product, but I would have hoped that any monitor could be at least a little "future-proofed" against upcoming specs. The two things I would want to see would include 1) the ability to down convert a wider-range of HDMI signals internally to the display's resolution, and 2) the ability to display HDR output using the BT.2020 or PQ color space. I can easily imagine in a few years having cameras recording in 6K or 8K, and also 4K 120p or 4K 240p, and I wouldn't want to have to buy a new monitor every time I get a new camera. Hopefully Weefine can upgrade the chips to down-convert from a higher range of inputs on the next version of the product. I would also be curious how many cameras will let you manually drop the resolution on the HDMI input to something lower than what you're recording on the memory card, the way some other people have asked earlier - I spent some time looking, and it was hard to find a definitive answer, although it looks possible for at least some cameras. I got the chance to try shooting with a housed Ninja earlier this month, and having some sort of monitor is really critical to getting the framing right - the small display on the back of the camera wasn't enough for me...
I couldn't agree more mate. I would never shoot without a monitor anymore. And regarding the number of cameras that can output a lower resolution through the HDMI than what they're recording internally I can't really give you a precise answer but it does look that some cameras are able to do this. For these cameras I can see this monitor being really useful.
Hi Bob, I shoot with the canon R5 and I have no problems shooting 4K@60fps, 4k@120fps or 8k RAW. With some cameras you just have to set the HDMI output setting to 1080 and you are good to go. Other cameras (such as the R5 can detect this automatically). Cheers
Hi Matthias, with most cameras including the GH5 you should have the option to output to 1080p regarding your recording resolution. I had a quick online search and found this in the GH5s manual: Down-convert the size/frame rate when the motion picture size is set to [4K] or [C4K] in [Rec Quality]. I can speak for all Canon EOS stills and Cinema cameras that this option is there. Hope this might solve your issue. I might have a go at this monitor too.
Thank you Nicolai. I didn't think of this option because I never had to use it before. But I'll definitely look into it. Thanks again for the tip. 🙏🏻👍🏻
all camera can downscale hdmi output and really few monitors accept 4K@50p but we have been filming in 4k for years. No mentions on it's weight underwater that is the most important parametrr for a video rig
Well done vid. I noticed you had the monitor attached to a cross bar on what that is attached to what looks like a nauticam housing. Where would I source such a cross bar. It looks like a very good feature for mounting the monitor.
The cross bar was a tailor made solution from my preferred underwater camera store here in Switzerland. Unfortunately they don’t ship anything outside of Switzerland.
Thanks for the review. I was hoping to see a review of that equipment which is certainly super compact and cheap in comparison to most available and costly solutions on the market. I was wondering what are your thoughts about the provided underwater HDMI cable. I haven't seen this monitor in real life but the HDMI cable looks super thin and fragile in comparison to the ones from Nauticam for example (which are for some of them quite fragile). I would hesitate to go on a trip without a spare cable. Regarding the resolution limitation, it's a bit surprising as I think on the GH5 you can set your HDMI rec output to downconvert your 4K60ips image to 4K30 or 4K50 to 4K25. The weefine manual states it supports 3840x2160/30P. For C4K, it's however limited to 25 or 24 ips, so maybe a framerate to 50ips instead of 60 would be a compromise (and a more european approach even no one no longer cares about electrical frequencies ;-) )
Thanks for you input mate. Yes, the HDMI cable is rather thin compared to the Nauticam cables, so I do think it would be reasonable to take a spare cable with you on a trip. Regarding the frame rate restrictions, I think you're right and other users said the same. I'll give it a try next time I use the monitor. 😉
Thank Walter for your feedback. I've heard from other users that I can set the HDMI output to be different than the recording mode and that should do the trick. You've probably done the same on your camera?!
Hi Matthias, If you try to down-convert the HDMI output resolution of your camera while using this monitor, please, share the result with us (specially if you try it with a Panasonic Lumix GH5/GH5S/GH6 😅). I'm thinking about to buy this monitor for use it with a GH6, but I'd appreciate if you could give us that kind of feedback. Thank you so much and apologize for such a specific request. 😇
No worries mate. I haven't tried this yet, but I've heard from other users that it works, when down converting the HDMI-signal. I'll see if I can run a quick test sometime soon and I'll let you know in a future video.
Hi Zeus, I have just purchased it, and it works fine with my canon R5 for 4K@60 fps or 120fps and also 8K RAW. Unfortunately I just sold my GH5s 2 weeks ago, otherwise I could have tested your request. But I would assume that it will work to set the HDMI output to 1080.
Hello Mathias. Awesome Video. I am thinking about getting the Monitor for the Zcam. But...if I record like 4k 100fps the Monitor will turn Black??? And will not show a Frame???
That’s what I experienced when trying it with higher frame rates with my GH5S. Bit if you can change the setting so that the HDMI outputs a FullHD signal while you’re recording internally in 4K, it should work just fine.
@@MatthiasLebo thanks for answering. Yeah i changed the settings on the camera but i am not a big fan of the monitor. The Picture is not realy accurate if you are used to the atomos monitors. Even by changing the monitor settings i couldn't get near the real picture.
@@phonorarmedia2864 I'm sorry to hear that. I guess that's one of the disadvantages of using such monitors. They're still in their early stages and improvements are likely to happen over the next few models they will release.
@@phonorarmedia2864 Hi, I am about to pull the trigger on purchasing the WED-7 Pro monitor, assuming that the Zcam can downgrade the video output over hdmi so that the Weefine monitor works. You mention that you got the weefine monitor to work with the Zcam at high framerates in 4k? And what did you mean with picture accuracy, colour, lagging?
Hi Mattias! When filming in 60fps, couldn't you just configure your camera to output 1080p over the HDMI out while recording at 4k internally? The product specifications seem to suggest the WED-7 Pro can accept 720p60fps and 1080p60fps signals -- it's only when accepting 4k resolution signals that it's limited to 24 or 30fps.
Hi Matthias, from where did you get the multi-base handle tray, and did you have to use/replace it with longer screws to fit it on the Nauticam handle arrangement/setup? Thx.
I got it tailer made from a camera store nearby Zurich. Unfortunately they won't ship outside of Switzerland due to tax issues. But I think Nauticam has something similar that you should be able to find on their website. And no, I didn't use any longer screws for this setup. The original ones worked just fine.
@@MatthiasLebo Thank you 🙏🌹 much appreciated. Will you be so kind and give me their contact details, I can arrange local purchase with no need to export.
Hi, There are some cameras like my Blackmagic 4k that exports different resolution from hdmi(fullhd) and still records in 4k.I could easily see that this monitor would be great with it.
Hey Juhani Thanks for your input mate. I didn't know the Blackmagic does that. Knowing this, I can see this monitor being a great match with such a camera.
I’m using the same ninja v and nauticam housing you have. The question is if is worth it knowing the ninja v has a brighter screen and higher resolution but also a more bigger size overall
Never mind resolution limitations is a dealbreaker for most people. Although my Blackmagic didn’t 6k but only export 1080 via hdmi out I’m curious to know how that will work
I guess this is a question everyone has to answer for themselves. For me personally, I prefer being able to record in 4K 60 and carry a little more bulk with me. But that's also because I already have the Ninja V setup. I you don't have any monitor at the moment, your choice might be different.
Well, that will most probably work and you should be able to record in 6K while viewing what you're recording in 1080. Unfortunately my GH5 doesn't do that.
@@MatthiasLebo that’s true! Before I put the trigger I was looking for something like the one you just reviewed but it was not a option at the moment. Thanks
This was a very helpful review. I love the compact size and low price of the product, but I would have hoped that any monitor could be at least a little "future-proofed" against upcoming specs. The two things I would want to see would include 1) the ability to down convert a wider-range of HDMI signals internally to the display's resolution, and 2) the ability to display HDR output using the BT.2020 or PQ color space. I can easily imagine in a few years having cameras recording in 6K or 8K, and also 4K 120p or 4K 240p, and I wouldn't want to have to buy a new monitor every time I get a new camera. Hopefully Weefine can upgrade the chips to down-convert from a higher range of inputs on the next version of the product. I would also be curious how many cameras will let you manually drop the resolution on the HDMI input to something lower than what you're recording on the memory card, the way some other people have asked earlier - I spent some time looking, and it was hard to find a definitive answer, although it looks possible for at least some cameras. I got the chance to try shooting with a housed Ninja earlier this month, and having some sort of monitor is really critical to getting the framing right - the small display on the back of the camera wasn't enough for me...
I couldn't agree more mate. I would never shoot without a monitor anymore. And regarding the number of cameras that can output a lower resolution through the HDMI than what they're recording internally I can't really give you a precise answer but it does look that some cameras are able to do this. For these cameras I can see this monitor being really useful.
Hi Bob, I shoot with the canon R5 and I have no problems shooting 4K@60fps, 4k@120fps or 8k RAW. With some cameras you just have to set the HDMI output setting to 1080 and you are good to go. Other cameras (such as the R5 can detect this automatically). Cheers
Hi Matthias,
with most cameras including the GH5 you should have the option to output to 1080p regarding your recording resolution.
I had a quick online search and found this in the GH5s manual:
Down-convert the size/frame rate when the motion picture size is set to [4K] or [C4K] in
[Rec Quality].
I can speak for all Canon EOS stills and Cinema cameras that this option is there.
Hope this might solve your issue.
I might have a go at this monitor too.
Thank you Nicolai. I didn't think of this option because I never had to use it before. But I'll definitely look into it. Thanks again for the tip. 🙏🏻👍🏻
all camera can downscale hdmi output and really few monitors accept 4K@50p but we have been filming in 4k for years.
No mentions on it's weight underwater that is the most important parametrr for a video rig
Well done vid. I noticed you had the monitor attached to a cross bar on what that is attached to what looks like a nauticam housing. Where would I source such a cross bar. It looks like a very good feature for mounting the monitor.
The cross bar was a tailor made solution from my preferred underwater camera store here in Switzerland. Unfortunately they don’t ship anything outside of Switzerland.
When are you next on Bonaire? Hit me up would love to see this set up!
Thank you! Very helpful.
Thanks buddy, glad you liked it.
Thanks for the review. I was hoping to see a review of that equipment which is certainly super compact and cheap in comparison to most available and costly solutions on the market. I was wondering what are your thoughts about the provided underwater HDMI cable. I haven't seen this monitor in real life but the HDMI cable looks super thin and fragile in comparison to the ones from Nauticam for example (which are for some of them quite fragile). I would hesitate to go on a trip without a spare cable. Regarding the resolution limitation, it's a bit surprising as I think on the GH5 you can set your HDMI rec output to downconvert your 4K60ips image to 4K30 or 4K50 to 4K25. The weefine manual states it supports 3840x2160/30P. For C4K, it's however limited to 25 or 24 ips, so maybe a framerate to 50ips instead of 60 would be a compromise (and a more european approach even no one no longer cares about electrical frequencies ;-) )
Thanks for you input mate. Yes, the HDMI cable is rather thin compared to the Nauticam cables, so I do think it would be reasonable to take a spare cable with you on a trip. Regarding the frame rate restrictions, I think you're right and other users said the same. I'll give it a try next time I use the monitor. 😉
I'm shooting a Sony A7siii at 4k 120fps. The WeeFine shows my images just fine.
Thank Walter for your feedback. I've heard from other users that I can set the HDMI output to be different than the recording mode and that should do the trick. You've probably done the same on your camera?!
Hi Matthias,
If you try to down-convert the HDMI output resolution of your camera while using this monitor, please, share the result with us (specially if you try it with a Panasonic Lumix GH5/GH5S/GH6 😅). I'm thinking about to buy this monitor for use it with a GH6, but I'd appreciate if you could give us that kind of feedback.
Thank you so much and apologize for such a specific request. 😇
No worries mate. I haven't tried this yet, but I've heard from other users that it works, when down converting the HDMI-signal. I'll see if I can run a quick test sometime soon and I'll let you know in a future video.
@@MatthiasLebo Thank you very much for the info, Matthias. I really appreciate it! ☺️
Hi Zeus, I have just purchased it, and it works fine with my canon R5 for 4K@60 fps or 120fps and also 8K RAW. Unfortunately I just sold my GH5s 2 weeks ago, otherwise I could have tested your request. But I would assume that it will work to set the HDMI output to 1080.
Hello Mathias. Awesome Video. I am thinking about getting the Monitor for the Zcam. But...if I record like 4k 100fps the Monitor will turn Black??? And will not show a Frame???
That’s what I experienced when trying it with higher frame rates with my GH5S. Bit if you can change the setting so that the HDMI outputs a FullHD signal while you’re recording internally in 4K, it should work just fine.
@@MatthiasLebo thanks for answering. Yeah i changed the settings on the camera but i am not a big fan of the monitor. The Picture is not realy accurate if you are used to the atomos monitors. Even by changing the monitor settings i couldn't get near the real picture.
@@phonorarmedia2864 I'm sorry to hear that. I guess that's one of the disadvantages of using such monitors. They're still in their early stages and improvements are likely to happen over the next few models they will release.
@@phonorarmedia2864 Hi, I am about to pull the trigger on purchasing the WED-7 Pro monitor, assuming that the Zcam can downgrade the video output over hdmi so that the Weefine monitor works. You mention that you got the weefine monitor to work with the Zcam at high framerates in 4k? And what did you mean with picture accuracy, colour, lagging?
Hi Mattias! When filming in 60fps, couldn't you just configure your camera to output 1080p over the HDMI out while recording at 4k internally? The product specifications seem to suggest the WED-7 Pro can accept 720p60fps and 1080p60fps signals -- it's only when accepting 4k resolution signals that it's limited to 24 or 30fps.
Yes, it seems like this is a possibility I didn't look into yet. Will try that... thanks 🙏🏻
Yup, Andrei, you are right. No problem to film 4k/60fps with the wed-7
Hi Matthias, from where did you get the multi-base handle tray, and did you have to use/replace it with longer screws to fit it on the Nauticam handle arrangement/setup? Thx.
I got it tailer made from a camera store nearby Zurich. Unfortunately they won't ship outside of Switzerland due to tax issues. But I think Nauticam has something similar that you should be able to find on their website.
And no, I didn't use any longer screws for this setup. The original ones worked just fine.
@@MatthiasLebo Thank you 🙏🌹 much appreciated.
Will you be so kind and give me their contact details, I can arrange local purchase with no need to export.
The Monitor will not show you 4K 60fps but you can still record 4K 60fps on the SD Card in the Camera?
Yes you can still record 4K 60 on the SD Card, but the monitor won't be able to receive that signal through the HDMI port, so it will just stay black.
Hi, There are some cameras like my Blackmagic 4k that exports different resolution from hdmi(fullhd) and still records in 4k.I could easily see that this monitor would be great with it.
Hey Juhani
Thanks for your input mate. I didn't know the Blackmagic does that. Knowing this, I can see this monitor being a great match with such a camera.
@@MatthiasLebo hey thanks for your review, the sony a7siii is capable of doing that also, seriously considering this monitor
I’m using the same ninja v and nauticam housing you have. The question is if is worth it knowing the ninja v has a brighter screen and higher resolution but also a more bigger size overall
Never mind resolution limitations is a dealbreaker for most people. Although my Blackmagic didn’t 6k but only export 1080 via hdmi out I’m curious to know how that will work
I guess this is a question everyone has to answer for themselves. For me personally, I prefer being able to record in 4K 60 and carry a little more bulk with me. But that's also because I already have the Ninja V setup. I you don't have any monitor at the moment, your choice might be different.
Well, that will most probably work and you should be able to record in 6K while viewing what you're recording in 1080. Unfortunately my GH5 doesn't do that.
@@MatthiasLebo that’s true! Before I put the trigger I was looking for something like the one you just reviewed but it was not a option at the moment.
Thanks
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