Stabler: How do you get those thoughts about someone who looks like your grandmother? Me: The same way others get those thoughts about someone who could be their daughter
they do that a lot. make the suspect believe they already decided and have everything they need to convict for life. they often only care about closing the case.
They told him, quite strongly, to take the deal cuz they knew for a fact the other guy would take it. This was probably the only time they were not trying to play someone. Elliot got mad.
Denis O’Hare is a busy actor apart from L&O . . . but it says a lot about him, how frequently the various L&O franchises have called on him to play memorable guest roles.
Denis O' Hara....I remember him, he caused a breakup between Bill and Sookie in True Blood. He must have hid somewhere, became human and committed what he shouldn't have done.
Dude you're in prison and you're already marked as a target for the inmates. I don't care who you're selling out, it's probably worth it to take it and run
@@greenbeantm1096 He was obviously beaten up when he was offered the deal. Considering he showed no sign of fighting back or the will to do so. That's enough of a mark and the problem when prison inmates are your bullies, they don't tend to either hold back or care about causing great bodily harm
@@merikmalhads1676 there wouldn’t be a transfer they would be sentenced to different prisons. It is ver rare/maybe impossible for partners to be sent to the same prison. Due to gangs and escape attempts
Crazy. That dude went from being an accountant living in a browstone, beating homeless crackheads in an alley with rebar, to a slowwitted old lady raping delivery man. The law and order verse is nuts.
@@eggsandbacon121 He lived in murder house, he had his tongue cut off in Miss Robichaux's academy, starred in a freak show, lived in Hotel Cortez, was an actor in Roanoke, found a dead body on a beach in Mass. etc
My friend is a journalist and told me a story he came across.... a guy in Wales found a body in a ditch, been there over a year and reported it.... they examined her body and found the guy who found the bodies semen inside her, fresh... he didn't kill her but found a body and did the unthinkable.
I hope he gets arrested and put in jail for killing an elderly. This is why I love Law & Order SVU. People shouldn’t hate Law & Order SVU just because they show bad killers
@@christieli6227 the guy who killed the lady had hella mental disabilities, iq of like 12, all that jazz. I cant really emulate the emotions of the episode through a yt comment, but its very sad. he ends up getting sent to a mental hospital where everyone there is like 100000x crazier than he is, straight jackets etc. the final scene is him staring at the main room of the insane asylum. quite dark
He had an IQ 1 or 2 points below the line for mental retardation and the big mystery is whether or not he is faking it, as clues point to both. Skoda gets him institutionalized in the end, where he ends up in an asylum for the severely disabled; the reality sets in for him and he realizes this is where he is stuck for the rest of his life. Fitting ending for this guy and played so well by Denis O'Hare
what's funny.... is i could tell he was guilty from the get-go He was acting weird and unnatural. he pretended to know who the people were off a vague drawing (???what?)
That’s not how it works. The moment they see that he had been there around her death then they immediately pull him in. Question the suspect. Then it’s over.
I don't understand why there's all this uncertainty. Didn't they say that whoever it was left semen on the victim's leg? I KNOW these cops have heard of DNA.
@@Ruiji93 If they had proof, they wouldn't need the DNA. I don't know what the law says, but I would expect they probably need justifiable cause or reasonable suspicion. Which they have.
Unless it's a government job they won't have the dna on file so they have to have a person of interest to compare the dna against then the guy is either the suspect or they let him go
In the context of being raped by someone whose presumable in their 20's, she's real old. To the point nobody at that age should even have those thoughts about her.
Is there no follow-up clip? Jimmy's testimony is one of the most skin-crawly things I've ever seen on this show. TH-cam used to have full episodes of these ancient crime dramas, for free (just like they appear on TV reruns). Guess now it's all about the greed.
@@gyalkapone His black-on-black and black-on-blue looks were also drippy. I have a fondness for the pink and plum dress shirts and suspenders he wore during the first season, which were dripped out as well.
3:33 is where detectives who were in the process of arresting guys were calm as molasses in telling them: Against the fence. Usually a cop would yell but these detectives very calm. No yelling or anything. That just amazes me
@@heycece8018 they got the dna from the robbers which didn't match. they didn't have any idea it was the retarded guy until much later. hence they had to have probable cause and they didn't until they figured he was there.
Obviously, the guy who made the deal should have had the full punishment, without any deals. Like how L&O shows the real world, where the better people don't necessarily get a better deal
I dont' know why it took so long for them to bring up that the delivery driver who found the woman was an ex-con. It would have popped up as soon as they ran his prints which they would have taken as part of the CSI processing. His prints would have been taken for elimination and attribution.
Very Interesting -- the actor playing the Detective -- Christopher Meloni, also played as an actor along with fellow actor J,K. Simmons. (here playing the Police Pschologist) in the HBO Prison Series OZ. Small acting world I guess.
What was Cragen's deal? Offering ideas (from a forensic psychologist, no less) on who the perp might be, or who his rage may be directed at, isn't the same as speaking for him? Otherwise, Skoda or Huang would have nothing to say at all???
So the profile describes someone young, inexperienced and introverted So they ignore the introverted younger delivery guy and go for his senior gigolo partner I like this show but man can they be dumb as rocks sometimes
Stabler: How do you get those thoughts about someone who looks like your grandmother?
Me: The same way others get those thoughts about someone who could be their daughter
There’s something I find really disturbing about this one. That poor 72 year old lady.
True. She's older than my parents, she looks 80, but still, it's so sad😢
The guy that identified the killer had a stupid friend whom the detectives offered the deal first.
they do that a lot. make the suspect believe they already decided and have everything they need to convict for life. they often only care about closing the case.
@@marroonrider3193 and the stupid friend was stupid and got sent to 15 years in prison
Good clip
They told him, quite strongly, to take the deal cuz they knew for a fact the other guy would take it. This was probably the only time they were not trying to play someone. Elliot got mad.
It's also used in game theory and statistics.
Denis O’Hare is a busy actor apart from L&O . . . but it says a lot about him, how frequently the various L&O franchises have called on him to play memorable guest roles.
Same thing with David Harbour and Dan Lauria
oof the one where he was brilliant but schitzophrenic was heartbreaking
Also he played many characters on AHS!!! Great actor!!!
Ya I think he was also in Criminal Minds, pretty sure CSI franchise too...
Denis O' Hara....I remember him, he caused a breakup between Bill and Sookie in True Blood. He must have hid somewhere, became human and committed what he shouldn't have done.
Dude you're in prison and you're already marked as a target for the inmates. I don't care who you're selling out, it's probably worth it to take it and run
Wait why would he be marked as a target?
@@greenbeantm1096 He was obviously beaten up when he was offered the deal. Considering he showed no sign of fighting back or the will to do so. That's enough of a mark and the problem when prison inmates are your bullies, they don't tend to either hold back or care about causing great bodily harm
@@merikmalhads1676 I doubt if they were convicted they’d be sent to the same place
@@greenbeantm1096 Is he gonna live long enough for that transfer? And who's to say the next one won't be the same story even if he does
@@merikmalhads1676 there wouldn’t be a transfer they would be sentenced to different prisons. It is ver rare/maybe impossible for partners to be sent to the same prison. Due to gangs and escape attempts
Crazy. That dude went from being an accountant living in a browstone, beating homeless crackheads in an alley with rebar, to a slowwitted old lady raping delivery man. The law and order verse is nuts.
Didn't he also live in murder house but in a different franchise
@@eggsandbacon121 He lived in murder house, he had his tongue cut off in Miss Robichaux's academy, starred in a freak show, lived in Hotel Cortez, was an actor in Roanoke, found a dead body on a beach in Mass. etc
@@TheSlayerDiary thank you I appreciate that I've had a bunch of strokes since 2020 so I have a hard time putting faces and names together and whatnot
He was also the vampire king of Mississippi in True Blood
He was also a schizophrenic lawyer, militia leader
I like how Stabler hits the table with a smile on his face
It's ok. Alphonso gets out cleans up his act (sort of) and becomes a Vigilante in Star City.
that's where I know him from
My friend is a journalist and told me a story he came across.... a guy in Wales found a body in a ditch, been there over a year and reported it.... they examined her body and found the guy who found the bodies semen inside her, fresh... he didn't kill her but found a body and did the unthinkable.
not unthinkable when there are well known terms to describe the act
@@toomanyaccounts it may not be unthinkable but it certainly is despicable
@@toomanyaccounts TH-cam doesn't like certain words.
I don't understand. If the body had been there for over a year how much of it could have even been left?
Imagine being that fucking sexually active you use a dead corpse to let it all out
"That Gilligan's-Island-lookin' dude!" 🤣
I hope he gets arrested and put in jail for killing an elderly. This is why I love Law & Order SVU. People shouldn’t hate Law & Order SVU just because they show bad killers
Whoever hates SVU just because of their killers they show shouldn't be watching TV in the first place.
@@cecejamesable I don’t hate Law & Order SVU. And I don’t hate The Chicago Series on NBC too
@@michelleezeugo5098 I haven't watched the Chicago series is it good?
@@cecejamesable Yeah. You should watch it.
I saw this episode, the situation with the killer is actually a lot more complicated.
the ending to this episode was so depressing… i literally closed my laptop and just sat in the dark for like 10 minutes
what happened ?
@@christieli6227 the guy who killed the lady had hella mental disabilities, iq of like 12, all that jazz. I cant really emulate the emotions of the episode through a yt comment, but its very sad. he ends up getting sent to a mental hospital where everyone there is like 100000x crazier than he is, straight jackets etc. the final scene is him staring at the main room of the insane asylum. quite dark
He had an IQ 1 or 2 points below the line for mental retardation and the big mystery is whether or not he is faking it, as clues point to both. Skoda gets him institutionalized in the end, where he ends up in an asylum for the severely disabled; the reality sets in for him and he realizes this is where he is stuck for the rest of his life. Fitting ending for this guy and played so well by Denis O'Hare
I love SVU and have been binging it recently but that’s how most episodes end for me 😂
@@28hipster i had to stop about halfway through season 3 it was making me too depressed
what's funny.... is i could tell he was guilty from the get-go
He was acting weird and unnatural. he pretended to know who the people were off a vague drawing (???what?)
its a tv show... they acted that way on purpose, youre not a detective
Now if this was real life the more likely scenario is they wouldn't investigate the delivery man at all.
That’s not how it works. The moment they see that he had been there around her death then they immediately pull him in. Question the suspect. Then it’s over.
I'll take " I will make an unsubstantiated and ignorant comment for 1000.00, Alex" (convenient name)
Yeah, irl they woulda just slapped the sentence on those kids and patted themselves on the back
Weird seeing Vern and Keller get along lmaoo
Lol Oz is such a Griity Show surprised Mariska never made an appearance on Oz
Smh makes you wonder who you can trust
Nobody!
@Biff Dugan Rules 😂😂😂😂 still bro
lmao you don’t have to worry about anything trust that
@Biff Dugan Rules That is inspired by real life crimes and events
Don't get it twisted this is fiction not reality stay on track this is not the twilight zone or a parrall earth 🤭
They can put him in jail..but hes three thousand years old
He was never the same after he lost Talbot though.
TRUEEE BLOOOD
Especially after slaughtering a newscaster live on the news. "Now time for the weather. Tiffany?
I don't understand why there's all this uncertainty. Didn't they say that whoever it was left semen on the victim's leg?
I KNOW these cops have heard of DNA.
They need proof for a warrant to get the guys DNA
@@Ruiji93 If they had proof, they wouldn't need the DNA.
I don't know what the law says, but I would expect they probably need justifiable cause or reasonable suspicion. Which they have.
@@TH-camallowedmynametobestolen DNA is always needed, it creates a stronger case in court
Unless it's a government job they won't have the dna on file so they have to have a person of interest to compare the dna against then the guy is either the suspect or they let him go
@@caraelliott9909 "they have to have a person of interest to compare the dna against"
They do have a person of interest.
Anybody else find it weird that they act like 72 is so ancient? The way they talk, you’d think she’s 82.
In the context of being raped by someone whose presumable in their 20's, she's real old. To the point nobody at that age should even have those thoughts about her.
She even looked at least 82. 72 is not that old at all, they kept talking like she was insanely old.
I thought I was tripping for a moment- like 72 is old but it's not borrowed time yet. They made her sound like a nonagenarian
Is there no follow-up clip? Jimmy's testimony is one of the most skin-crawly things I've ever seen on this show. TH-cam used to have full episodes of these ancient crime dramas, for free (just like they appear on TV reruns). Guess now it's all about the greed.
He’s a good actor. He played a character on Bones too.
He was on true blood as well. Russell
Who's the examiner that talks to Stabler and Benson? He's a cool dude with good knowledge!
Jameson
From street punk to cop in L&O: Organized Crime. Well done!
You forgot about TIMO CRUZ! The best shooter before Curry 😂😂😂😂
For a three thousand year old vampire, he looks pretty good
The comment I was looking for. 😂
Mariska is so pretty! ❤️
Yes
She gets her looks from her mother, the 1960s blond bomshell Jane Mansfield..
Yeah she is
@@phoenixman8569 don't get her Mr. Universe father
Dennis O Hare, what a legend lol
American horror story
I wish they made a song with the opening theme I love it
There is...
@@jesssanchez2954 and what’s it called
I like it fine the way it is.
@@bigironranch4655 I forgot lmao but just look it up
How do you get that intentions for someone who could be your Grandma
Munch has extreme #drip in that pea coat
Look that signature full black and skinny red tie was ahead of it's time. He was dripped DOWN
@@gyalkapone
His black-on-black and black-on-blue looks were also drippy.
I have a fondness for the pink and plum dress shirts and suspenders he wore during the first season, which were dripped out as well.
Thought that was Bob Odenkirk in the thumbnail
3:33 is where detectives who were in the process of arresting guys were calm as molasses in telling them: Against the fence. Usually a cop would yell but these detectives very calm. No yelling or anything. That just amazes me
its not bernstein, its berenstain
I still can't believe it
This is dark even for Law and Order.
Why didn't the cops get all the suspects' DNA?
they have to have probable cause.
@@toomanyaccounts they had it. They were caught for the robbery. That’s probable cause. They had his dna on her leg as the video said in the beginning
@@heycece8018 they got the dna from the robbers which didn't match. they didn't have any idea it was the retarded guy until much later. hence they had to have probable cause and they didn't until they figured he was there.
@@heycece8018 probably was gonna be the next step if no one talked. For everyone else they didn’t have probable cause
Great performance by the Carlos actor who I recognize somewhere either Coach Carter or Remember the Titans
So did Verns life take a turn for the worst after this show to end up in OZ?
Roman meeting Russel before true blood
Cool to see JK Simmons in his pre Spider-Man days.
What lmaoooo
He, Christopher Meloni and BD Wong were all on Oz together. Whole bunch of other SVU actors too.
He was also the yellow M&M
Nathan Zimmerman I am holleringggggg
He played the dad in Juno
After released from esmerald city,vernon schilinger and kris keller changed identity and become cop and psychiatrist, awesome
Smashing the table man i need coffee break
I wish I knew of a place to watch the full episodes in canada without having to get a VPN :(
Obviously, the guy who made the deal should have had the full punishment, without any deals. Like how L&O shows the real world, where the better people don't necessarily get a better deal
"how do u get those thoughts about someone that looks like ur grandma?" XD
this is the first episode where i was already familiar with the case that inspired it
1:03 i was thinking the same thing, Stabler
Saul Goodman and Cave Johnson in one episode! My lucky day! I love those actors!
It's really sad what happened to the elderly lady to tie her up like that 😔 😞 disturbing
I dont' know why it took so long for them to bring up that the delivery driver who found the woman was an ex-con. It would have popped up as soon as they ran his prints which they would have taken as part of the CSI processing.
His prints would have been taken for elimination and attribution.
Very Interesting -- the actor playing the Detective -- Christopher Meloni, also played as an actor along with fellow actor J,K. Simmons. (here playing the Police Pschologist) in the HBO Prison Series OZ. Small acting world I guess.
I absolutely love the both of them Oz
LOVED THAT SHOW!
3:05 hha he rlly said "whats up chigga"
1:48 JAMESON?!?
The one and only...J. JONAH. JAMESON!!!!!
Watching svu like this is such a tease
What was Cragen's deal? Offering ideas (from a forensic psychologist, no less) on who the perp might be, or who his rage may be directed at, isn't the same as speaking for him? Otherwise, Skoda or Huang would have nothing to say at all???
It's season 1, episode 14
So the profile describes someone young, inexperienced and introverted
So they ignore the introverted younger delivery guy and go for his senior gigolo partner
I like this show but man can they be dumb as rocks sometimes
retarded didn't occur
That’s the guy who plays Rene Ramirez on Arrow!
why did mariska's head double in size over the course of this series?
😂😂
when he said the uniform had a bunch of letters, but they didn't spell anything...
Where can i watch this show ?
Peacock 😅
Love Benson and Stabler!🤘
Russel Edgington…vampire king of missisippi… wouldnt put it past him
I thought I recognized him! I couldn't place his face
9:55 is hilarious
Russell Edgington!
Timo Cruz! That guy is allergic to lay ups
Mrs. Bernstein took back her instacart delivery tip!
Carlos is fantastic. Did he also become a famous actor?
Who killed her? The delivery guy. I didn’t even watch the whole video 🤣😂
Yeah
Not the delivery guy that saved her though, the mentally handicapped one that they talked to on the way to talk to the guy that did the cpr
A lot of what for one guy?
This recently happened in Detroit few older victims before he was caught
One has a disabled husband trapped watching couldn’t help😢
Im sorry this happened
Can you imagine if this was on Chicago PD any imagine Hank Voight in this situation he goes full Batman
So who killed her?
It was the delivery man's partner, I believe. The one Munch and Jeffries were talking to at 8:04
But if I remember correctly he was mentally challenged and wasn't aware what he was doing.
@@uncletaylorify Yes, I do recall that now.
the robbers caused her to have a heart attack.
It was the Delivery guy's parter Jimmy sexunal assault and kill her
OH MY GODS ITS DR EDISON!!
Haha yeah it took me awhile to know where he was one and they I was like Bones
This was terrifying to hear my name on the show.
Sookie would not approve
There was a case in NY back in th 70s about an 18 year old kid who raped an 80 year old woman . Think about that one !
There's way way more than one! The elderly and the disabled, even bedridden comatose patients are the favorite targets of rapists. Easy pickings.
Olivia and Jose caricoa are falling in love and best friends forever and ever
Glad they did a lineup
Eugene Byrd , best known for his role in 8 mile as the bragging wannabe producer
Is the chick playing Carlos lawyer the same person who plays Lisa cuddy from house md?
Yes it is.
no, not even close
Never say metal retreated to anyone who has it or not Rachel sickon has the same thing okay
So... Andy Diggle used to hang out with Rene Ramirez the plot thickens.
Well he was special
Not sure if this channel got the episode mixed up, but when I looked it up, it's S1 Ep14 ....Limitations
Why does Cragen hate Skoda so much in this episode?
Is that the guy in lady gaga Judas video?
lol gilligans island looking dude
Russel Edginton eventually gets his revenge on Elliot Stabler
Rick Gonzalez on svu in the past and now on criminal intent. lol
Sin births madness 💔
Crazy the guy in prison becomes stablers partner in law and order organized crimes
Bro is that Cal from Anacondas?
Everyone from the show oz is in this one
I love Olivia Benson
Is that Dr. Cuddy?
nope
Wow they both were in OZ
Oh wow, he also hates homeless people 😂
Just realized how much they used to wear trench coats in L&O
Just ninty days
timo you're supposed to be shooting 3s man