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Here's WHY Every Airlines Will BEG For The NEW 757 MAX!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ส.ค. 2024
- The aging Boeing 757 need a huge revamp to compete with what are basically stand-in aircrafts in this market such as Airbus’s A321XLR.
This revamped aircraft would be called the 757 MAX and with what it could promise, every airline would certainly do what they can to get their hands on it.
So why hasn't Boeing upgraded the 757?
I was formerly an airline captain with a major airline. The B-757 was the greatest aircraft that I ever flew.
It’s true, I was his check pilot. He sucked at flying it.
@@zacherius137 oh you clown
757 is the most exotic plane ticket that you can purchase in the united states domestically. I love the noise and fast takeoffs
i went on the 757 not too long ago and the engine sounds were nice
My favorite Boeing of all time!!!
Flown in them so many times I lost count.
My most memorable, I flew on a USAir 757 in the summer of 1999 from BWI to PIT.
I was sitting on the port side emergency row window seat. As soon as you got on the plane, that was my seat.
I used to work at EWR from 2013-2015. 757’s were my favorite flight deck to take my breaks in.
That flight deck is huge. It has a step down into the flight deck. I’m 6’4” I could stand up in that deck, 767 and 777 and not hit my head.
I miss seeing that bird at DFW, where I’m at now.
Only time you see them down here is FedEx at FTW and the Mavs private jet at DAL.
I have photos of the Phoenix Coyote 757 when I worked at EWR.
Flew on Iceland Air 757 from LHR to JFK via KEF.
Xavier! Never took u as a avgeek. Wonderful surprise
I work on 757s and many other types. 757 is my favorite and kicks ass in performance.
The best take off experience of any airliner that I have travelled in. They shoot skywards like a home sick angel.
Unfortunately I've not (yet) had the chance to fly on a 757. I must admit that the Avro RJ100 also shoots up towards the sky. Had the opportunity to experience it from Birmingham to Brussels on Brussels Airlines, when they used to have them.
@@GoogleGebruiker those still in service look like crappy wasteheaps. Combined with bad runway surfaces, you see parts moving you do not want to see at all, I can assure you (US domestic flights)
It was like taking off in a DC-9 in the 1980s when SAS were still using them.
Not a chance because Boeing got rid of the 757 tooling required for production many years ago.
They make up this shit for clicks.
Tooling is still onsite, they didnt destroy it. There just isnt a supply chain to restart a line. May as well take the resources and build a new design.
@@Elementalism no it’s not still on site. That program was discontinued 20 years ago.
@@Elementalism Cite your source.
@@alooga555 Can't give you a source, but the tooling was destroyed AND the space where the 757 was produced is home to one of the 737 production lines now, so Boeing would need new tooling (not that hard to do) and a new production building (far harder).
The 75 was my all time favorite to hand fly for it's sportiness. Second was the 727 for it's feel.
The 707-200 is really the bird for that...the 727 is no kidding we'll get you there fast.
I didn't like the 70 for the flying tabs, I like power steering...@@bisbonian4085
757 with the winglets ... sharpest looking airliner ever designed.
Not designed in. Refit, sold by another company. With Boeing they came first with the 747-400.
@@ericjohnson6790 Yes
The b757 was by and is by far the best performing airplane ever for its size and class.
I worked in 757 Engineering (wing structures) as a drafter.
People and pilots love the 757.
It comes down to poor management. DAL flat out asked and was willing to drop major cash for a 757 replacement decade went by Boeing did not answer their call hence why DAL has turned to fully diving into 321 program. In fact AA and UAL would have def bought 757 Max in bulk. No excuse about it being expensive.
and 75 years old. B757 fuselage is the same as the b-707, 727, & 737
@@ericjohnson6790 Wrong.
my 757X design will be more successful than the 737, as soon as Boeing reviews my design.
@@MrStimcatI know, right? He still has to compete with MY design!
@@ABCantonese I guess you're going to have to spill the beans on your design! ;-)
@@MrStimcat Thank you. Appreciate the support! :-)
I don’t know if it’ll happen but loved the 757 as it winded up and lifted off. Great sound
Provided the tooling didn’t exist until they needed it, does that mean they can’t engineer new tooling?
They’ll probably BEG that it not include the MAX designation after the numbers.
I love the 757.
Nothing in the air pins you to the seat like a 757 when they go wide open.
A310 with those GE turbofans packs quite the punch. I bet even bigger then the 757
Loved the 757; I think most did.
Not related to the aircraft, it was a result of fantastic pilots, once flew into DFW on a 757 during rain showers…and never felt the landing, literally, and only realized we were on the ground when the reverse thrusters deployed. Flown millions of miles, and that landing will always be a memory. Have many other 757 memories, including flying in the cockpit jumpseat back when that was possible.
Okay, back to subject. I have airline management experience, but no aviation engineering experience….
Could a 787 based design be re-engineered for the middle market?? It would remove some of the weight, and provide an appealing twin aisle?? I suppose the aerodynamics of a shortened fuselage and other technical aspects of the 787 might not make it possible?? Just wondering.
As a former FT journalist I regularly flew in the cockpit of aircraft: on a BA 757 from Barcelona to London - fantastic views of the UK from 30,000ft, Heathrow clearly visible 100s of miles away; a BA 747 from London to Sydney for the 2000 Olympics - arriving at 4am at the new airport, coming in low over Botany Bay, just like Capt Cook. An Aeroflot flight from Moscow to Novosibirsk was the most dramatic, landing in a violent snowstorm on manual, with the Russians pilots performing skillfully. The view from the 757 was uniquely panoramic, and the pilots loved them.
The UK and Rolls-Royce should help Boeing to relaunch the 757, certainly..
You would be crazy to name anything MAX. That would be the kiss of death for an aircraft.
Pro max?
I flew on a 757 from ATL-SXM... its my fav aircraft to my bucket list destination of St Maarten :) I did notice that it is a bit louder than the 737 and 320 but it was perfect for that route! Especially that tight take to the east at SXM!
Boeing has their hands full with the KC-46 tanker, the 737 Max and their rocket program. They don't have any bandwidth to take on any new airplane design.
I love the Boeing 757! Last year, I picked a flight on UA with an additional layover just so I could ride on a 753 (flying pencil) between ORD and DEN. If Boeing wants to re-enter the Mid-Market segment, I think a narrow body 797 would be an adequate replacement for the 757 in terms of PAX and range. Should Boeing consider a wide body with similar PAX capacity and longer range, I think the 787 family should incorporate a 787-700, which would be historically similar to the 762 and the A310.
The 797 was in the works before it was shut down few years ago. I suspect they will try to return to designing something similar.
Enough with the 757! It was an amazing aircraft and created much success in the industry, but it’s 40 year old technology now. The 787 is available now, with better economics it just needs to get the price down for this 4,000 to 5,000 mile range aircraft. It’s a better aircraft, customers like it better and being dual isle has many advantages over the single isle 757. This is a much more logical choice than reengineering the 757 as this could be incredibly expensive.
I agree
I flew on a Twa 757 from Orlando fl to anchorage ak it was a great experience they even had hot meals this was in 1999
it would be easier to design a newer aircraft IE 797 .. composite wings bigger digital engines similar to 787 .. 250-290 passengers is a niche market better suited to certain corridors. american delta cathy JAL
Boeing needs step it up!! I loved riding in the 757
When Phil Condit took over Boeing he managed to drive it into many dead end roads. Boeing is still suffering from the devistation of his management, and other troubled projects such as the hanger queemd 787, and 777MAXX not to mention the fiasco of the 737 MAXX problems. I hope they can turn it all around.
Hangar Queen 787? Since when? Ther are a few hundred of them flying right now.
I retired from boeing in 2017 after 11 years of the 787 development progtram. I think I would know better the problems we had in getting this plane off the ground than you. It was by no means my first Boeing program to work on but it was the most trouble plagued one. When Phil Condit took over the company all the programs went to heck in a handbasket. @@ImpendingJoker
I fly the 787 and it definitely is NOT a hangar queen.
B757 is the most beautiful aircraft ever!
I thought the 727 was
The 757 is one of my favorite plane. Sitting in the front seats of an MD-80, my favorite, is the quietest jet ever. You can barely hear the engines running.
Yoy got an excellent point here. A 757 MAX instead the actual 737 would have been a win-win for Boeing.
Jet2 has retired most of their 757s in the last few years 😢 and they are being replaced by 321s. They are the last UK operating the type. I love the 757 but accept the end of the road is approaching these beauties. Icelandair is the last European operator.
I think they should build a baby 787. A twin aisle is more comfortable on cross country and international flights. I love the idea of the 797.
The A220 is basically a baby 787 lmaoooo
777 and 757 are the king's of take off's
The 767 was also a mid market jet but better range, more comfort and more capacity.
Co-developed with one to replace the 727 and one to replace the 707 and wide body tri-jets. No 757 trans-Atlantic until ETOPS. Reno to Chicago or Dallas was this baby's specialty when designed and for 2/3 or 3/4 of its useful lifetime. No 100 years as with the b-737 and B-52.
Its claim to fame is being the first passenger airliner which was not underpowered.
Loved the 2-3-2 layout on those! Nobody had to climb over more than one other person to get out to the aisle.
I flew in a Boeing 727 Combi, from Sondre Stromfiord to Thule Air base in 1996, hired by the Air Force to transport civilian passengers. On the return flight, we flew in a 757, and there were only about 30 passengers. It really flew like a sports car in the skies. 😂
There’s nothing like flying across the north Atlantic in a 321 at 30,000 feet, because it can’t climb any higher. With the 757 more powerful engines, you have more options in terms of turbulence avoidance.
Airbus 321's service ceiling is either 39,100 ft or 39,800 ft depending on engine choice. Where did you get the 30,000 ft limit?
Problem with narrow bodies is that beyond say 5 hours they are just too uncomfortable to fly in. Doesn't matter how long they make them, the galleys are only so wide and space for toilets is still limited.
Flew into the BVI airport in the mid-1980s on a 757 when the airport runway was 4200'. The braking upon landing was impressive but the return flight takeoff was breathtaking. The acceleration was startling as the takeoff was into the mountains at the end. I'm guessing that the rotation was at about 2700-3000' and we cleared the 500' hills by a huge margin.
In my opinion the 787-8s are the NMA's just with more range is all 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
757 forever for me. Love them.
..I flew with the Boeing 757-200 (2K2) of Transavia back in 1999 and 2000.. Once from AMS to CRE and from MAA to CRE, Nikos Kazantzikas International Airport of Crete..
Transavia is a daughter charter airline of KLM and had 4 Boeing 757-200 taken over from the then bankrupt airline Air Holland.. They flew with Transavia from 1995 till 2005, where it was replaced by the, than relative new, Boeing 737-900NG..
At that time it was possible to visit the cockpit as well, nowdays a lot more difficult..
I noticed the modern glass cockpit with several displays..
It was a very smooth and comfortable flying aircraft, with a characteristic slightly 'lean backward' position during flight.. It had a 3-3 seat combination..
Nowdays standards it will be challenging to keep up with modern aircraft like the Airbus A320/A321NEO range and further developed Airbus A321 LR/XLR..
I think the future will be difficult for the Boeing 757, altough it is by design one of the most beautiful small bodied aircraft around..
I think that Boeing might will attended to developing a complete new small bodied aircraft, like a Boeing 797..
To upgrade a Boeing 757 to modern standards will be quite a demanding task.. Engines, body wings and engines should be redesigned will it fit in this modern era... The body could be most the same, only with composite materials like carbon, kevlar and much aluminium to keep the own weight as low as possible..
Wings should be having a curved edge or wingless with scimitar, like the Boeing 737MAX series has..
Engines should be high bypas Engines, which might could be the same as from the Airbus A320/A321NEO... That would be Pratt & Withney, IEA, CFM, LEAP or new General Electric engines..
It is up to Boeing to decide.. Both things are possible..: keeping the existing Boeing 757 flying with heavy modernisation or developing a complete new aircraft, like a Boeing 797... Both will bring serious costs with it..
As a retired airline pilot, I was always surprised about the 737 Max. The subsequent crashes of this aircraft due to changing engines installation etc was the result. Theu gave jyst pushed the 737 too far. It would have been far better to work on the 757 at that time and now a rewinged 757 would have been a more natural extention to the range. Then again, I was only a pilot, not an engineer, designer or aircraft manufacturer.
I always enjoyed flying in the 757, it was always appreciated by the pilots and passengers!
The most pleasant airliner trip I’ve ever taken was aboard a Boeing 757 ! We were kinda
sad when we reached our destination so soon ! Flight crew let us keep our bourbon & ice
Drinks all the way to parking at ramp . Good times - smooth ! Delta in Florida . Super Fun !
The pilots love them. They have lots of power, handle well, and have way above average runway performance.
I spent almost 30yrs in the airline industry, and I've always been a fan of Boeing aircraft. Particularly the 727-737,and the 757. Everyone knows the 737 is a workhorse, but that doesn't mean keep revising it until you run out of things to do with it. The Max is giving the 737's a bad name, along with Boeing also. The 757...What always attracted me to them is their performance, the ability to not have to use a lot of runway during takeoffs and landings, their climbing abilities, and simply the way they look. '57s in my opinion, should be revised, instead of the '37s. Plenty of things can be changed or added to a 757. The only thing left to do with a 737 is....well...make it supersonic! Note:: My favorite 737 was the 400s. And Airbus a/c simply scare the hell out of me. I don't trust them.
Rebadging a new Chinese aircraft could be the most effective and profitable option for Boeing. After all, Boeing has a joint venture in China and has contributed to the Chinese air liner development.
Boeing should develop the 757-8 (dash eight). Yes, they should do what they did to develop the 747-8i/F, by using the innovative tech used to build the 787 Dreamliner. Using the 737-MAX tech is another approach, but Boeing has already demonstrated they can upgrade an old design with new tech. If airlines are still using the 757, they will consider a revamped plane like the 757-8.
So why hasn't Boeing upgraded the 757? Boeing will have to design an impressive aircraft to compete with the A321XLR. I don't think it has the resources right now.
Supply chain is non-existent. Makes more sense to build a new design. If the 757 had stuck around and they upgraded the engines it would out perform the XLR, it would have a 5000nm range and could do it at full payload and in shortfield situations.
@@Elementalism A Ferrari also outperforms a Toyota Corolla, yet Toyota sells more Corollas....
Fact: even with upgraded engines, the 757 per seat-mile is way more expensive than any A321; and it only gives performance which the A321 doesn't have in maybe 5% of the sectors. There are not that much sectors where 5000 nm is needed, 4700 is enought; and shortfields are also seldom.
So the final verdict: a 757 Max is great for flights which are rare, and in all other cases the A321 is the better option.
The B757 is a fabulous "pilot's plane" that can really get up and go. Absolutely my favorite type. Boeing should have skipped the B737 Max and invested it the B757 instead.
The 737 max are truly amazing aircraft sadly people lost there lives I hope if they step up to the plate and build a 757 max they do it right take the time to assure maximum safety in my view safety is number one these airlines have came a long way since I was a kid back in the 60s and 70s. It was common to see them come down quite often usually in threes hope they do their research and do it right if they proceed with all the technology, being leaked from theintelligent agency with composites in alien technology, so-called I’m sure they’re going to come up with some great aircraft Boeing leading the way of course our country owes it to Boeing after World War II what they did for this country was amazing. Keep the good work up boy you’re worth every penny people pay.
This video is aging quite beautifully like milk.
Bringing back the 757 is great but not under the MAX program with all the problems with the 737s no other Boeing plane should have the MAX name or technology.
Flew in the window seat of a 757 about 10 years ago and my neck hasn't recovered yet.
What I can see it should be a lot easier to re-engine B757s over any B737s due to significantly higher ground clearance, for starters.
Dream on. The 797 has to be the next big-thing for Boing. If they get it right.
Plenty of 757's parked in the desert with tons of usable life.
As much as I'd love to see the 757 make a comeback with appropriate revisions under the circumstances, couldn't Boeing simply drum up a NMA/797 by shrinking the proven dreamliner to 2/3 or 3/5 scale?
787-200 and 300 series...
I agree
I don’t think there’s an excuse, Boeing is worth billions of dollars they should be able to push engine makers to build them a next gen engine that’s sufficient for the 757 or even re-building the 757 form the ground up where they can introduce things like composite wings and other new parts. It being expensive isint really an excuse because the alternative is that Boeing completely concedes the NMA market to airbus which they already have.
Boeing likey has already filled the mid market segment with existing planes. The 737-10 fills in for the 757-200 and the 787-8 fills in for the 757-300. There is really little room between those two aircraft to build a market.
An intercontinental journey exceeding 6 to 7 hrs in a cramped narrow body is really uncomfortable and almost claustrophobic. I'd rather fly on a wide-body rather than such single-aisle. Having done it a few times, on converted B737-BBJs & A321s, have had my lifetime's fill of narrowbody flying. Now can't sit thru any flight longer than 3 hrs. on such types.
Maybe great from a pilot's perspective, but as a passenger, I avoid narrow body, long distance flights.
Sometimes it is best to be cool and wait for the proper opportunity ! Damn it man - patience !
Christmas is a stocking stuffing tradition. Boeing Max is a coffin stuffing tradition
Boeing was dumb asses for NOT redesigning and upgrading the B757.
What a stupid decision to attempt to make a 737 something it was never intended or designed to be.
757 way way way way better than the tired old 737 in every way way way!
It would be anything but easy to build a 757X, this ship has sailed long ago. First tooling for the 757 has been destroyed AFAIK, so they would have to begin from scratch with is very expensive. Second many of the supplying companies building components of the 757 are not existent anymore.
And even if they manage to rebuild it with new engines and a few other tweaks it would still be wayyyyy too heavy. It would beat the XLR in terms of range handsdown, but im terms of efficiency it would maybe only match the XLR on the very longest routes, however the average route of this market is 6-8 hours maximum.
To match the efficiency they could only stretch the fuselage to accommodate more passengers to rise CASM, but this means these extra seats have to be sold.
A solution could be an entirely new, lighter wing. But this would be so expensive that you can also start from scratch and build an entirely new, modern airplane that can 100% compete with the A321neo.
As much as I love the 757 (my favorite airplane) I know that it will never return.
By the way the 757 just reached its 40 years in service anniversary, so its still a long way until the first ones reach 50 years.
I don't think that they will have any option but to build a new aircraft, although to be fair, it might not need to be clean sheet.
In the way that the 757 was related to the 767, could the 757 replacement be related to the 787?
Also, unlike the A320 series, no single aisle Boeings can accommodate industry standard containers in the hold. This may be an issue for some airlines.
So we are looking at new wings, new engines, and possibly even a wider fuselage. Couple that with the scandalous 737max fiasco, a consequence of which means that grandfather rights no longer apply like they used to, and it might even be cheaper to create a single aisle based on the 787, rather than resurect and upgrade an old design - even assuming that it could be made competitive.
However, whatever Boeing does, I suspect that Airbus could re-wing and re-engine the A320 series to compete at a fraction of Boeings costs, resulting in a market segment where it is difficult at best to maintain adequate margins on the new aircraft.
We may have to wait a couple of decades before Boeing's return to this market segment is economically viable.
Perhaps Boing should concentrate on a 767 replacement before Airbus shrinks the A330neo back to the emerging hole where the A300.and A310 used to have to themselves before Boeing entered with the 767.
Boeing lost its way as a commercial aircraft company and competitor to Airbus. Boeing management decided it needed a bigger military / defense business to counter the cyclical nature of the commercial aircraft business. It acquired McDonnell Douglas whose own commercial aircraft division was way behind. It wasted money and lost focus by moving the corporate HQ to Chicago (and now Virginia), close to none of its engineering and manufacturing facilities. Then the board installed a series of ex-GE men as CEOs who focused on goosing the stock price, doing share buybacks and pleasing Wall Street. Wall Street hates the risk of designing and building a new airplane from scratch, so the likelihood of the NMA was doomed from the start.
Sadly it was Boeing who came up with the whole concept of the "family of aircraft" to suit different market sizes and needs. Now it is Airbus which has the full family while Boeing is struggling to remain competitive.
757 and 767 are near identical in cockpit layout. I worked for a small independent simulator operator in Maastricht Airport in tge '80s We had a combined 757 / 767 sim. I dont remember if we had to change the instruments, it might have been just a simple code load for the simulator. That means that cross training between 757 and 767 was simple for operators... same cockpit!
That was a big selling point for the 757/767: pilots could easily be trained on both aircraft.
When a pilot got a type rating on one aircraft, then it was also good for the other with minimal cross -training.
The 757 is my favorite airliner too but I can face the fact that it’s not coming back under any circumstance. Production is done, tooling has been disassembled just like the 727, 707, and DC3.
Boeing handed the mid market sector Airbus and by the time a 757 replacement is ready the market will have dried up and not worth the Billions to develop it.
Furthermore the cost and time required to certify an upgrade for the remaining but rapidly aging 757 fleet would be out of the question. Even if a replacement engine is available which it’s not.
Great video and an even better question. Yes, Boeing should conduct the market research first and make sure the numbers are there to justify the fancy. After all, that's what bit the A380? On the other hand, they better get that right before Chinese start getting into the game.
Most awesome Boeing ever. Beast
Any airline, anywhere, that begs for anything Boeing, needs to fire their entire Board of Directors. Boeing is nothing but trouble and an absolutely horrible company producing a horrible product.
Truth is Boeing thought they just do a minimum change on the obsolete 737 to 737 Max disaster and the tooling for the 757 was broken up and the factory given over for other models.
Mentour Now! did exactly this video one year ago..
Even though I personally love the 757 for the remarkable set of capabilities that were baked into one airplane, the significant, unsolvable problem at the moment, requirement number one, is an engine program. We do not have a 45,000 pound thrust engine with a high-enough bypass ratio to qualify as efficient in the modern sense. What is available does NOT reach half way. He need to look at what GE, Rolls, and PW are doing and how they are doing financially. The problem for the engine makers, they cannot afford to deliver a fantastic, money-losing engine. The 757 never sold in high numbers, what was it, around 1100, so we cannot even do a re-engine program at this point. Airlines are not screaming for it. The long 737 and A321 models can mostly cover one of the 757 benefits, the medium + thin routes. Neither can do hot + high, or short field performance. Neither has the lifting capacity of the 757 wing either. It is a bygone that is too expensive to rescue at this point because the rarely needed capabilities are served, if not entirely efficiently, by the 757 aircraft we already have.
Since COVID and the mass retirement of pilots and the resulting pilot shortages airlines are having to resort to fewer flights with larger planes. Routes that flew regional jets are now flying 737 and 737 routes are now covered with 757 and 767 by the larger airlines. Many of the newer air carriers and low cost carriers have fleets that are all one type of aircraft; 737 or A320. Until the lowcost start needing a midsized the 757 will probably not come into production again.
Theres no pilot shortage.
A 767 MAX/X was much more likely since they still had the crews and machines and it was produced up until recently. I think they missed a major opportunity with that. For the past 10 years, their management has had very little mindset on long-term strategy. They've also been forced to become extremely reactionary as they keep messing up. 737max, constant 787 issues, 777x indefinite delays
You are wrong on the fuel use. The 757 was one the most fuel efficient aircraft of any fleet.
The reason it hasn’t been built is Boeing bet on the 737NG fleet and they scrapped all the jigs to the B757. One of Boeings first big mistakes
The 757 max would be a logical evolution of one of their greatest aircraft. However they can’t get a variant of an aircraft that’s been flying for over 50 years certified. It’s not gonna happen
I was working at the Renton plant in 2005 when the final 757 was being assembled. It was very sad to see it go. Since the 757 and the 737 had the same fuselage diameter several of us thought the 757 nose assembly should have been adopted on the 737 to make it look more modern.
My favorite plane as a passenger.
Clean sheet, allows Boeing to control liability vs. revamping 50 year old fuselages, and utilize all new production methods, modern materials, and controls liability and most importantly would present themselves as a world leader in engineering and production.
Boeing has the problem with the 737 Max which limits the size of new engines having larger fans, Unless they redesign the wings with the main landing gear, putting a taller standing strut with bigger tires there. Wouldn't that be cheaper and faster than trying to revamp the old 757? I guess only the technicians and accountants at Boeing can answer this question. Modernize the 757 is possible, obviously, but wouldn't that equal to make a new plane, or an almost new plane? Since both have the same fuselage, I guess one can look at the coin one side or the other... And time is passing...
The problem here is that boing put all there eggs in the 737 market. They could have did both up grades on the 737 and 757 at the same time. Now it is much too late to try to do anything with the 757 and the A-321 neo has taken up that market.
It would take some time to get the 757 market going again and boing has more problems than ever.
Boeing rushed the 737 MAX into production because American Airlines was about to go with Airbus. Boeing management spent lots of effort goosing the stock price while taking their eyes off of the commercial airliner market.
McBoeing is currently failing in so many ways that they just need to figure out to build aircraft before doing anything else.
757 Max would be the worst name they could pick.
I've been an avgeek for the past quarter-century. The '57 will go down in history as the greatest twin-engine narrrow-body to fly... but it's not coming back. Next-gen subsonics are gonna look more like the Sonic Cruiser... assuming there even exists a market for craft that size in 20 years, when mankind collectively wakes up and makes transcontinental flying obsolete with more robust rail networks.
Well, growing the 737 into something close to a 757 seems to come to an end. what's next is a good question. There's that truss braced wings plane that would replace the 737 (would that route allow it to overlap into the 757 space?) or a next-generation 757 that would at the low end perhaps overlap with the 737 high end?
I would like to Boeing redesign the 757 and find away to keep the performance with more " green " engines.
Lot to be said for those that use the 757-200 to keep doing so and run them out. Versatility wise flew Chicago inbound plane to Washington 3hrs later loaded up same plane to Dublin Ireland.
My favourite Boeing aircraft the 757.
Boeing was way too focused on 737 line. Their flagship midsize race horse (757) was put out to pasture too soon. Nothing like a 757 on takeoff. Gobs of power.
I took a 757 with Delta from Atlanta to Orange County and back in 2019 just before covid became a thing. It was a nice, smooth flight both ways. It tends to handle turbulence really well too. It would be nice to see a new generation of the 757 on the horizon
Plains have to demonstrate that they are safe to operate first.
Landing wasn't the key, it's the take off ability at full load at these airports.
Probably should be an all composite plane that leverages the 787 supply chain.
Yep, that 737 MAX had a good start.
Last time I flew I was a young boy, but I’ve flown a lot. I do remember some jets standing out in my memory as significantly faster on takeoff than other jets. Might have been a 757!
Boeings greed is to thank for the death of the 757, a far superior aircraft to ANY of the 737 variants. Boeing has become an embarrassment! I'm so tired of seeing nothing but 737and a320s in airline fleets nowadays.
Hey Boeing, how about a 757 Max??
We have a 737 Max 11 coming out next year. 240 passengers and only a 15,000 ft runways required, bleeds off
I always wondered why Boeing didn't update the 757 instead of tweaking the 737. The problem of engine placement, which led to the disastrous accidents of the 737 MAX would not have occurred.