The whole reason why nobody drinks it is the Latin name, Ilex Vomitoria. The East India Trading Company had it named Vomitoria to think it would induce vomiting, also to prevent it from competing with tea (Camellia Chinensis) and coffee.
No. It's named such because the natives had a cleansing ritual where they would make the tea and vomit during drinking it. Not cause it induces vomiting but just cause that was part of the ritual.
This is really neat-- would love to see the Yaupon Brothers reaching out to tribal partners to honor the history of it's use and supporting local initiatives that would benefit tribal members.
Hey, y'all, when are we gonna get these "Southern cooking" restaurants to start serving yaupon sweet tea, meals with Spanish needles flowers garnish, kudzu blossom fritters, and beautyberry/elderberry pies? I moved to the Florida Panhandle and noticed some growing near the back steps. A little deeper into brush and found males and females growing on two sides of the property.
Yaupon holly (Ilex vomitoria) is a great native tree to grow in gardens of the south east USA. Its cultivation should be encouraged based on it's important value to native species too. The small white flowers attract masses of beneficial insects like pollinators and the red berries are a popular food source for many bird species, raccoons and deer.
Thanks for introducing us to this plant! I am all for being responsible of how I spend my dollars and stimulating our own economies. Helping our neighbors first. We've lost so many industries due to outsourcing. Let's do this.
We have loads of it growing on our property, though I can't say I love the taste as much as black tea. It would be interesting to try using it with other ingredients to add different flavors, though.
@@GarouLady I haven't had it in a while so I'd have a hard time saying specifically, but I feel like it tastes kinda earthy. I'll have to make some again and see if I can describe it any better.
Did you toast it before brewing? I think black tea is harvested from the same plant as green tea but is fermented then toasted to change the flavor. Someone please correct me if I'm not right!
@@lydianicolenorwick125 I've had it both toasted/roasted and not. The difference wasn't as much as I thought it might be. From what I've read black tea does go through more processing. I still need to do more experimenting with Yaupon.
You didn’t even talk about the taste. I thought at the end they would Show it being brewed and then drinking it. That would have been a way more satisfying way to end it. We don’t know what it taste like.
It tastes refreshing, like tea minus the tannins. It is also in the same genus as yerba mate and guayusa, both already popular on the international market, so you've maybe had something that tastes similar?
Not the only NA native plant with caffeine! A species in the same family in the NE also has caffeine I just discovered: inkberry/ilex glabra another holly, an evergreen for shade and moist acidic soils.
Could also mention cutting back on all the deforestation needed to keep the coffee industry going. Very cool information - planning to plant a couple and cut out coffee -thanks! :)
I'm subscribed to a tea box that comes every month and last month, I actually got a little sample of yaupon tea from the yaupon brothers. Really cool. I didn't mind the flavor. It taste like a normal green te to me.
Thank you for this. I'm a consistent caffeine user, and looking for ways to be more self-sustainable led me to looking into how to produce my own caffeine, which led me here. Plan to buy a tree. Keep up the great work!
In colonial America is was beginning to be competitive. The East India Company named it Ilex Vomitoria to imply it would make one throw up. It was a component in the ceremonial black drink, but not a bad component.
Fantastic video! Yerba mate the most under rated caffeinated beverage by far. I have been drinking it for years and it tastes amazing/ give you lots of energy.
I'm not sure how sustainable it would be if it was as popular as coffee. Coffee and tea used to grow wild too but because of the massive quantity needed it eventually became farmed which led into industrial farms. The same would happen if yaupon wasnt so niche. I have a feeling if yaupon was in the place of coffee we'd see video like "the sustainable alternative for yaupon, coffee"
Yerba Mate y yaupon are varieties of the Holly plant. I have heard several Argentinians say that they could not find Yerba Mate in the US, it would come as a surprise to them that their Yerba Mate has a sister plant in North America. Most Americans don't even know themselves, it came as a surprise to me recently to know what Yaupon is..
Cassina [sic] was a beverage made from yaupon holly to energize native warriors for battle. It was also used as an emetic, hence the name Ilex vomitoria. Ilex cassine is a very similar holly, perhaps a cultivar of I. vomitoria, with the same common name. Is I. Vomitoria or I. Cassine used for your beverage? Vomitoria was the specific epithet used in Florida history and local flora courses at university. Thank you for helping make the world a better place to live!
Xorok I would rather a native but anything that could grow in a temperate Australian climate, as of yet I have not found anything. There is a native coffee but it’s not yet confirmed to have caffeine and kurrajong is used to make coffee but also not sure if the caffeine content. Everything else seems to grow in the tropics.
Will any yaupon variety work? I'm looking to use dwarf variety as a landscaping shrub. Will it contain similar levels of caffeine or does it vary wildly?
Yo-pon not yaw-pon. Anyway, this stuff is basically a weed on our farm in East Texas. If you don't cut your fields for a season they will be full of baby yaupon. So even though it can be a real nuisance it does make good tea. We leave it growing on the fence lines and have more than enough to give us all the yaupon tea we would ever need.
Will it work for caffeinated soft drinks too or does it have a strong coffee flavor and also is the caffeine strong enough to match that in Dr. Pepper etc.? Thanks man.
This is very unrelated to this video but I was just reading why you're not vegan and I'm curious why you can't just take B12 supplements or add nutritional yeast to your diet (it has a lot of B12). Honestly just curious.
Why is rob saying the name of the tea wrong, when the brothers are saying it the right way , is bob being defiant , yes the brothers would know the right way to pronounce the name of the tea don't you think,, let's correct bob
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@@Blackhuf I would simply try it instead of guessing. Order some seeds, plant them in pots and when they are established plant them in different sheltered location (south-facing wall, south-western slope, beneath an evergreen conifer, etc) and see if one pulls through. Bavaria is zone 7. You can also look at Camilia sinensis, Lubera sells it.
I grow camilla japonica for tea in my garden its grown in japan for gheir green tea. Its a close relative of the standard camilla sinesis that is grown for the black/green tea you buy in stores. Im not sure how much coffiene it has compared to sinesis, but its identical as far as i can tell. I will also try this tea as i love drinking coffiene in the winter but i dont like sourcing my food from tropical places.
Ok, it takes a lot of land and infrastructure to grow enough caffeine products for folks, and this only grows in the south. What are the yield rates? What are the implications of favoring this plant in a wild landscape? I got millions of questions! Ilex are the most complicated and misunderstood consumables I know. I dearly hope the boys have addressed all the questions at least for themselves. I saw hints of a logo I am not entirely sure about as a Native American. Do they employ any Seminole?
@@bryonwhite9375 I am curious to know, how do you even know this? Did you conduct a test? Did you google it? I'm a big fan of sustainability and nutrition science. Thank you for trailblazing the way with USA entrepreneurship.
No mention of a nutrition/antioxidant comparison with green/black tea. Personally, I don't go looking for something to consume just because it has caffeine in it. Maybe other people do, but I don't.
Ilex vomitoria nana and others can be used as an excellent caffeine-containing raw material for making quality deep fermented teas like da hong pao and puer. I study deep fermentation of teas, this is a huge untapped potential, a quality that can satisfy coffee and pu-erh lovers🕺
Why say it’s the only N. American native with caffeine? It’s one of at least 3 I. vomitoria, I. glabra, & I. cassine - granted, I. vomitoria produces the most.
Yaupon holly is not generally recognized as safe (GRAS), as the yerba mate species is safe. It would demonstrate a lack of integrity to market it to the pblic for $.🏋️🏋️❤️
My grandmother is Cherokee. I remember her drinking this when I was a kid.
The whole reason why nobody drinks it is the Latin name, Ilex Vomitoria. The East India Trading Company had it named Vomitoria to think it would induce vomiting, also to prevent it from competing with tea (Camellia Chinensis) and coffee.
No. It's named such because the natives had a cleansing ritual where they would make the tea and vomit during drinking it. Not cause it induces vomiting but just cause that was part of the ritual.
@@hawks9142close but it does induce vomiting. All caffeine can induce vomiting if you drink enough
This grows all over our property in Texas and we've even made furniture out of it, similar to willow furniture.
This is really neat-- would love to see the Yaupon Brothers reaching out to tribal partners to honor the history of it's use and supporting local initiatives that would benefit tribal members.
Nah. They should just focus on their business
Wow. What a coincidence. I just watch Emmymadeinjapan making this tea.
Thank you so much for posting this!
This looks amazing! I am going to buy some. I love that it's sustainable and grown locally too.
Hey, y'all, when are we gonna get these "Southern cooking" restaurants to start serving yaupon sweet tea, meals with Spanish needles flowers garnish, kudzu blossom fritters, and beautyberry/elderberry pies?
I moved to the Florida Panhandle and noticed some growing near the back steps. A little deeper into brush and found males and females growing on two sides of the property.
Respect Rob, thanks for educating me, I'm interested!
Yaupon holly (Ilex vomitoria) is a great native tree to grow in gardens of the south east USA. Its cultivation should be encouraged based on it's important value to native species too. The small white flowers attract masses of beneficial insects like pollinators and the red berries are a popular food source for many bird species, raccoons and deer.
Thanks for introducing us to this plant! I am all for being responsible of how I spend my dollars and stimulating our own economies. Helping our neighbors first. We've lost so many industries due to outsourcing. Let's do this.
We have loads of it growing on our property, though I can't say I love the taste as much as black tea. It would be interesting to try using it with other ingredients to add different flavors, though.
How does it taste to you?
@@GarouLady I haven't had it in a while so I'd have a hard time saying specifically, but I feel like it tastes kinda earthy. I'll have to make some again and see if I can describe it any better.
Did you toast it before brewing? I think black tea is harvested from the same plant as green tea but is fermented then toasted to change the flavor. Someone please correct me if I'm not right!
@@lydianicolenorwick125 I've had it both toasted/roasted and not. The difference wasn't as much as I thought it might be. From what I've read black tea does go through more processing. I still need to do more experimenting with Yaupon.
You didn’t even talk about the taste. I thought at the end they would
Show it being brewed and then drinking it. That would have been a way more satisfying way to end it. We don’t know what it taste like.
Good point. To me, it's pretty similar to green tea.
Great comment. And an honest response to a fantastic video, Rob !
It tastes refreshing, like tea minus the tannins. It is also in the same genus as yerba mate and guayusa, both already popular on the international market, so you've maybe had something that tastes similar?
I make that at home in Texas and it is so yummy!
Drinking a cup of green yaupon tea now. Really good
Not the only NA native plant with caffeine! A species in the same family in the NE also has caffeine I just discovered: inkberry/ilex glabra another holly, an evergreen for shade and moist acidic soils.
Could also mention cutting back on all the deforestation needed to keep the coffee industry going.
Very cool information - planning to plant a couple and cut out coffee -thanks! :)
Have this tree growing in the backyard and am now trying to make this tea with it!
Ok I need to try this, thanks for always sharing such cool stuff!
Thanks Rob. Great informative video. I'll get it and try it next time at the store....Micky
St. Petersburg, Fl inspired to buy! Thanks
I'm subscribed to a tea box that comes every month and last month, I actually got a little sample of yaupon tea from the yaupon brothers. Really cool. I didn't mind the flavor. It taste like a normal green te to me.
Great info! I will consider getting a tree for my garden here in South-Central Florida. Cheers!
Thank you for this. I'm a consistent caffeine user, and looking for ways to be more self-sustainable led me to looking into how to produce my own caffeine, which led me here. Plan to buy a tree. Keep up the great work!
We need to develop more of these native plants into commercial crops, thanks for the video !
Was anyone else yelling yo-pon at the screen throughout this video?
In colonial America is was beginning to be competitive. The East India Company named it Ilex Vomitoria to imply it would make one throw up. It was a component in the ceremonial black drink, but not a bad component.
I can’t wait to try this... first time hearing about it and I live in Florida
Oh, so you're the Florida Man. 😀
This is great. Good news.
Love this concept! Subscribed!
Fantastic video! Yerba mate the most under rated caffeinated beverage by far. I have been drinking it for years and it tastes amazing/ give you lots of energy.
I wanted to see them brew the leaves and do a taste test.
I'm not sure how sustainable it would be if it was as popular as coffee. Coffee and tea used to grow wild too but because of the massive quantity needed it eventually became farmed which led into industrial farms. The same would happen if yaupon wasnt so niche. I have a feeling if yaupon was in the place of coffee we'd see video like "the sustainable alternative for yaupon, coffee"
Thank you for sharing this information Rob awesome never knew this!
Will have to try collecting some leaves as I strive to eradicate about 20 acres of it on my property.
Interesting. I didn’t know about this. Thanks for sharing!
Great video 👍
Yerba Mate y yaupon are varieties of the Holly plant. I have heard several Argentinians say that they could not find Yerba Mate in the US, it would come as a surprise to them that their Yerba Mate has a sister plant in North America. Most Americans don't even know themselves, it came as a surprise to me recently to know what Yaupon is..
I love everything you do
How many times does the interviewer have to hear their company name and their pronunciation of the plant to get it through his thick skull? YO PON
I'll grow it on my Florida Food/Fruit Forest Property and give it a try.
Soooo, what does it taste like?
It is pretty similar to green tea for me. I wild harvest it and drink it a few times per week.
Cool,thanks for sharing this ! !
WOW thank you
Cassina [sic] was a beverage made from yaupon holly to energize native warriors for battle. It was also used as an emetic, hence the name Ilex vomitoria. Ilex cassine is a very similar holly, perhaps a cultivar of I. vomitoria, with the same common name. Is I. Vomitoria or I. Cassine used for your beverage?
Vomitoria was the specific epithet used in Florida history and local flora courses at university.
Thank you for helping make the world a better place to live!
This tea is all made from I. vomitoria, but we are researching I.cassine also. I. Cassine tends to like wetter areas than Yaupon.
@@bryonwhite9375 Thank you for your reply. Very interesting, can't wait to try it.
Ilex vomitoria, how unfortunate. The specific epithet is a misnomer, likely an ignorant European observation. There's nothing emetic about Yaupon.
@@coryluskat Quite interesting.
@@coryluskat prob from the berries. I think those will make you sick
"Could this plant produce tea?"
Over my dead body. Still, I'd be willing to give it a try
I’ve been looking for an Australian source of caffeine for the same reasons of sustainability. Thanks for the video!
One that is native to Australia or a plant that can be grown and farmed in Australia?
Xorok I would rather a native but anything that could grow in a temperate Australian climate, as of yet I have not found anything. There is a native coffee but it’s not yet confirmed to have caffeine and kurrajong is used to make coffee but also not sure if the caffeine content. Everything else seems to grow in the tropics.
@@bangers8696 Camilia sinensis, the tea plant? That's a temperate plant, hardy to -12°C. Doesn't like full sun, but a half-shady spot should be good.
just love it
Its pronounced "yo-pon" holly, Rob, in the South anyway just like the brothers were saying it.
this grows everyhwere in my area! i live in texas :")
It’s great that this plant has an actual use. Now how do I make it go away (central Texas where this plant is a pain in the ass)
I have yaupon bushes that were planted as ornamentals years ago.. can I harvest the leaves and make tea from them?
Will any yaupon variety work? I'm looking to use dwarf variety as a landscaping shrub. Will it contain similar levels of caffeine or does it vary wildly?
Teach us how to seek it out in the wild please
try google
@@maxfirefantasyreport Please don't try google. Find a forager in your local area.
We make harvesters that help with this process!
Yo-pon not yaw-pon. Anyway, this stuff is basically a weed on our farm in East Texas. If you don't cut your fields for a season they will be full of baby yaupon. So even though it can be a real nuisance it does make good tea. We leave it growing on the fence lines and have more than enough to give us all the yaupon tea we would ever need.
Check out the book, "The Black Drink", which is a collection of anthropological essays edited by Charles M. Hudson.
can this be ground into a matcha like powder?
Will it work for caffeinated soft drinks too or does it have a strong coffee flavor and also is the caffeine strong enough to match that in Dr. Pepper etc.? Thanks man.
I just saw EmmyFromJapan taste test this about a week ago. Your thoughts on how it tasted would have interested me as well.
Hey Rob! Thanks for the information. Who knew? 🤷♀️ wonder if I could grow in AZ with proper water management. Have great travels! 💕✨✨
It seems pretty hardy and grows all over Louisiana as well as being a common nursery plant. You could try.
@@KabobHope yeah, I think with proper water management could work! Thanks for the reply.
Where did you guys come up with the name Yaupon?
but does it grow in the pacific n.w.
Doesthis grow in Virginia?
Can you smoke it?
Are the berries the seeds ??
This is very unrelated to this video but I was just reading why you're not vegan and I'm curious why you can't just take B12 supplements or add nutritional yeast to your diet (it has a lot of B12). Honestly just curious.
Shit, I thought corona killed off all the feeble vegans.
Why is rob saying the name of the tea wrong, when the brothers are saying it the right way , is bob being defiant , yes the brothers would know the right way to pronounce the name of the tea don't you think,, let's correct bob
Is it pronounced yawpawn or yopawn? Have this growing everywhere in Texas
yopawn , and yep i'm in Nacogdoches and this is everywhere on our property.
if you are near Houston , they refer to it as " the pride of Houston"
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What's the scientific name of yaupon tree please.
ILEX VOMITORIA
1:09 Stupid question considering what was done to the Native Populations of North America.
If you ain’t First you’re last
I live in Indiana. Could this be overwintered indoors?
Ilex glabra also contains caffeine and is native to the NE of North America
Edit:
It's also somewhat toxic according to University of Texas.
has like 1/10 of the caffeine i think.
Pronounced "YOE-PAWN HOLLY" Gentlemen. Native Houstonian
Have anyone tried drinking this in the style of yerba mate, since its a relative of the plant? Smoke it and put it in a gourd?
Coffee ? Tea ? I'll have water, and make that a double. ;-)
It’s pronounced yo (like “go”) - pon.
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I guess, it won't grow here in Germany :D
Hopefully it will replace coffee and tea in USA
Never happen
Supposedly hardy to zone 7, so it should grow in Germany, depending on where you live. There are warmer and colder areas that that in Germany.
@@XoroksComment thanks for letting me know! I live in Bavaria, in the south of Germany. Our winters are too cold I guess
@@Blackhuf I would simply try it instead of guessing. Order some seeds, plant them in pots and when they are established plant them in different sheltered location (south-facing wall, south-western slope, beneath an evergreen conifer, etc) and see if one pulls through. Bavaria is zone 7.
You can also look at Camilia sinensis, Lubera sells it.
I grow camilla japonica for tea in my garden its grown in japan for gheir green tea. Its a close relative of the standard camilla sinesis that is grown for the black/green tea you buy in stores. Im not sure how much coffiene it has compared to sinesis, but its identical as far as i can tell. I will also try this tea as i love drinking coffiene in the winter but i dont like sourcing my food from tropical places.
Ok, it takes a lot of land and infrastructure to grow enough caffeine products for folks, and this only grows in the south. What are the yield rates? What are the implications of favoring this plant in a wild landscape? I got millions of questions! Ilex are the most complicated and misunderstood consumables I know. I dearly hope the boys have addressed all the questions at least for themselves. I saw hints of a logo I am not entirely sure about as a Native American. Do they employ any Seminole?
Their website has a lot of information on this if you want to learn further.
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how many mg of caffeine in a cup of this tea?
It's variable, but normally around 60mg/cup
@@bryonwhite9375 I am curious to know, how do you even know this? Did you conduct a test? Did you google it? I'm a big fan of sustainability and nutrition science. Thank you for trailblazing the way with USA entrepreneurship.
Is that yaupon ilex or another variety?
It is an ilex.
"YO-ponn" not "yawponn"
local, native, sustainable, and frigging invasive as any plant gets. With the amount of Yaupon I have, I could corner the market
If you’re going to grow for caffeine, do your research. There are several cultivars of this plant
Great idea, I wish it was made simpler for European and Arctic nations... case 8.39$ shipping 20.00$ . . . sheeszh.
The idea is to source locally. See if you can find something more local to you to satisfy your desires. :)
No mention of a nutrition/antioxidant comparison with green/black tea. Personally, I don't go looking for something to consume just because it has caffeine in it. Maybe other people do, but I don't.
Interesting, but drinking coffees is not only about caffeine... it's coffee. The flavors, taste, aroma and culture.
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Ilex vomitoria nana and others can be used as an excellent caffeine-containing raw material for making quality deep fermented teas like da hong pao and puer. I study deep fermentation of teas, this is a huge untapped potential, a quality that can satisfy coffee and pu-erh lovers🕺
Oke plants tea
Alright his name is rob
Were can I buy a tree please.
maybe try to find some seeds online!
Their website is in the description of the video.
Yerba mate, a eso si lo entendí
I just finished picking a bunch yesterday. I needed a cheap alternative to all the yerba and coffee I was buying.
Why say it’s the only N. American native with caffeine? It’s one of at least 3 I. vomitoria, I. glabra, & I. cassine - granted, I. vomitoria produces the most.
This is not Yerba mate they only grow in tropical weather
Yaupon holly is not generally recognized as safe (GRAS), as the yerba mate species is safe. It would demonstrate a lack of integrity to market it to the pblic for $.🏋️🏋️❤️
Cleavers aka sticky willy has caffeine and is native so that claim of the only native plant with caffeine is false. I love making cleavers tea too.