Since this happens to be two men, which is not particularly common in musical theatre...one can't help but think of Les Miz' "The Confrontation" between Valjean and Javert! And to continue my theme, I LOVE "Agony" from Into the Woods, and the little-known "You're Nothing Without Me" from City of Angels!!
That's oversimplifying. There's also the reveal to Raoul that the Phantom is the father of his boy and of course the bet which is kind of the main plot point of Love Never Dies. So while there is certainly potential wasted in this song, it at least moves the plot along.
Wow wooow! How about the actual bet? This song practically decided their fates. Christine sings - she gets umm.. happily ever after with the Phantom. Christine doesn't sing - she goes back to this wasted mr HerHeartWillAlwaysFollowMe. So.. No. This song has a lot of weight in the plot.))
@@matth3w2002 Of course, Phantom is still the best, but songs like Til I hear you sing, Devil Take the Hindmost, Once upon another time and Beneath a Moonless sky are awesome
@@naastyaaaaaaaaa Have you read Susan Kay's Phantom? Sorry, but I *personally* consider it as canon. As far as my memory goes, it wasn't *directly* mentioned in the original novel, whereas in Phantom, there is this part where Erik silently examines Raoul's physical features and makes a remark on his lack of height (while still being taller than Christine).
Something about a lack of emotion seems more intimidating, especially when you compare it to the emotion on Raouls face as he sings. Then when you add the height difference it’s just creates extra intimidation. Until they start singing about Gustav and you can see a sliver of emotion on his face
The greatest showman stole many registic and choreographic ideas from this show... Watch Never Enough and Love Never Dies scene, or many freaks-ensemble moments in both shows...
Ben Lewis is hot, Gleeson nails the "pompous English gentleman," blocking is beautiful, Lewis is graceful in this and Beauty Underneath. I want more of these style of songs (contrapuntal, whatever).
1:47 this. The way he fixes his shirt and matches the music. I don’t know why but I can’t get over it. It’s beautiful. I on the verge of tears watching it.
I think the musical is good and I like the music but as a sequel to Phantom of the Opera... absolutely not lol! I like to pretend this isn’t a sequel and enjoy it that way.
What kills me most about this play is that Christine never even finds out about the bet.I feel like Rauol should have just told her about the bet-it's not like the Phantom threatened to kill him if he told her about the bet.
that's what gets me the most is they didn't tell her. Christine was singing that show FOR RAOUL in the first place, of course she wasn't gonna drop out lmao
In Ramin Karimloo and Sierra Boggess' version, the phantom makes a bet with Christine as well. Basically, if she sings for her, Gustave will live, and if she doesn't, Gustave will die. So it was rigged.
@@sharp52092 Phantom surely would do because he loves her and his son 😍😍😍 YOU MADE MY DAY 😂😂😂 ERIC IS A BIT MANIAC AND RAOUL IS A USELESS AND BORING MANEQUIN COMPARED TO THE OTHE ONE 🤣🤣🤣
The way the phantom keeps his composure while raoul rages on shows how the phantom has learned how to control his emotions while in battle with his enemies, until he’s close enough to strike
I love in this version where Ben's Phantom grabs Raoul by the throat and Raoul is completely helpless to do anything. It shows how much stronger Erik is than Raoul.
They are a fucking great duo! I want to see a silly and funny sequel of the two of them taking care of Gustave and fighting over even the smallest nonsense and sharing the love for the boy and eventually appreciating each other!✨
0:35 Let's take a moment to appreciate the camera angle and lighting here. Normally the mask and the Phantom are kind of silly, but in this shot? He looks scary as hell! It really helps that the actor has deep set eyes that turn his facial features into shadow in this light.
i think the thing i like most is how calm the phantom is and how raoul just squirms at the fact hes losing oh and how amazing erik looks in his outfit ;)
The phantom's definitely better at roasting than Raoul is. He rattles off 3 insults in a row: deep in depth, drunk, pitiful. And all Raoul can do to retort is call him 3 synonyms for "ugly".
LYRICS! RAOUL: Miss Giry! He's not Mephistopheles, you know. When it comes down to it, he's just another circus freak. I'm not afraid of him. ..No, it can't be... THE PHANTOM: Not afraid of me, you say? RAOUL: Stay back or I'll kill you, I promise you! THE PHANTOM: Insolent boy! You think you own more of her soul than I do? RAOUL: She is my wife. Your music may speak to her, but her heart will always follow me. THE PHANTOM: You think so? You really think so? Follow you.. With all your... charms? ... Look at you, deep in dept Stinking drunk, pitiful! Shall we two make a bet? Devil take the hindmost. RAOUL: Look at you, foul as sin Hideous, horrible Call the stakes, deal me in Devil take the hindmost. THE PHANTOM/(RAOUL): Our Christine shall choose tonight (Let her choose) Is she yours or mine? (Draw the line) If she sings you lose tonight (I won't lose) THE PHANTOM: You leave from here RAOUL: Fine! THE PHANTOM: Disappear RAOUL: FINE! And if she won't? if I win? THE PHANTOM: All your debts wiped away.. RAOUL: Very well, let's begin BOTH: Devil take the hindmost! THE PHANTOM/(RAOUL): (You think you have the odds) Our old game (You think you're in control) It's been changed (You think you've fixed the dice) Every throw (Well I will gladly roll) Riskier (I'll bet against the house) All the rules (I'll even double down) Rearranged Fate has redesigned most. (Fortune's on my side I won her long ago!) Cut the deck (I won her from you then) Let us play (I wager even now) You and I (I'll win her back again) Once again In the end (And when the game is done) Either way BOTH: Devil take the hindmost! Now Christine shall choose at last Is she yours or mine? RAOUL: We've a son, our bond's secure.. THE PHANTOM: Are you sure? RAOUL: What? THE PHANTOM: Are you so sure? RAOUL: ..What do you mean?.. THE PHANTOM: Such a child, strange to see Talented, musical Is he more you or me? Which one do you find most? RAOUL: You lie! THE PHANTOM/(RAOUL): Yet you boubt (No woman could) Doubt your wife (Or ever would) Doubt your son (Love such a man) Everything (You're insane!) So now we (I) play for your (my) life! BOTH: Devil take the hindmost! THE PHANTOM/(RAOUL): Deal the cards (I call your bluff) Let them fall (The game is on) Choose your hand (And we will see) Try your best (Who wins out) He who wins (Once and for all) BOTH: Wins it aaaaaall! Devil take the hindmost! THE PHANTOM: She walks, you leave together. Pockets full, debts paid. She sings... You leave alone. Devil take the hindmost.. RAOUL: Dear God. What have I done? I could lose her forever. My Christine!.. ... PS: I never liked Raoul, but damn this song is amazing.. PPS: Ooh, remember writing the lyrics to the audio version of this.. Aww..) PPPS: I couldn't find perfectly right lyrics anywhere, so I changed some stuff. Hope everything here is correct.)) PPPPS: just for those who are still reading for some reason.. I LOVE it so much.. And Ben's voice.. impossibly beautiful, as always.🖤
@@rosemarymadelein5Angel I hear, you speak, I listen Stay by my side, come to meeeeee Angel, my soul was weak, forgive me Eeenter at last maaaaaaaasteeeerrrr
If only Ben and his brother Alex would consider reuniting reviving an Aussie production of Love Never Dies LOL and being rivals depicted here as a Erik and Raoul. That would double the fun!!!
@@Nick98076 He probably new fangirls would be ALL over that! lol I think that one performance by Ramin Karimloo was funny. Right after Raoul saw him but before he said "no, it can't be" Ramin gave a cheeky "hi" to Raoul that cracked me up. Ramin's Phantom is very flavourful that way. Over all, I think the whole scene of Devil Take The Hindmost is kinda funny. The bar tender thing throws you for a loop, and yet, it's somehow believable. And to think all Meg would've had to do to have an actual conversation with The Phantom was to wait a little longer for her coffee. The whole thing is beautiful. Anyway, I'm rambling! Totally agree! 😅
@@ifucanseethisivealreadytra1594 Ramin's version is great, I love what he does with the character! I don't think I could choose between this version and the London one. Devil take the hindmost is definitely one of my favorite scene's from LND. I like at 1:44 when he is fixing his clothes and is giving off an "ew, he touched me" vibe! But anyway, I'm rambling, thanks for sharing you thoughts!
I will defend the hell out of this musical!! Its beautiful, brilliant and so emotional. Also, Ben Lewis is perfect as the Phantom and Anna O'Byrnes perfection as Christine too!!
Salty Pear agree - Anna and Ben absolutely zero chemistry - no way I believe they were in love little own have a son together - but hay - it’s a musical so you go with it 😳🥴
"You think you own more of her soul than I do?" Love that threat to Raoul. Further proof that the Phantom wins Christine before the end. The title song was his final victory revenge on Raoul for taking Christine, the woman he desired to be his queen of his unearthly music, in the first place.
Just listen to the two versions of London and Australia again. Well, each has its own advantages to describe the Phantom in this song and I like both: - London - Ramin: Sarcasm, Mockery, and Contemptuous - Australia - Ben: Sassy, Bold, and Badass No one is overrated or underrated, to me both Ramin and Ben have played their "own version of Phantom" and that's why they have been remembered and get recognized. Why must we compare them to each other? Just enjoy the song and that's all.
Ben is THE PHANTOM for me there is no more, he's just AMAZING there's something ghostly about him that makes his portrayal of the phantom the best for me. And Anna is a queen too. ❤
I prefer Ramin and Sierra as lead roles but here... Ben Lewis... Uh, I can't get enough of his deep and powerful voice. >w< And also his portrayal of Erik is very on point, also I think that he's acting choices were inspired by Lon Chaney's Phantom, his mimics and little manierysms. That's just great!
@@gaburysuje6766 YES! Their is something very old school Universal Monster Dracula/Nosferatu etc about Ben’s portrayal right down to his ‘crazy eyes’ LOL I get a lot of Lon Chaney/Boris Karloff vibes from him and I love it, I know some people have said Ben is a bit too ‘stiff’ but I feel that’s very deliberate on his part and it adds to his characters menace as you get a sense that that facade of control is very thin at the end of the day and their is a volcano just waiting to blow just underneath the surface…you really DON’T want to mess with this guy!
O mais engraçado é a parte (01:02) onde o Raoul canta "Olha você, sujo como o pecado, hediondo, horrível"... aí a câmera foca no Fantasma super lindo😍😂 Amei que gravaram a versão australiana em vez da versão de Londres. Quando ele arruma a gravata é perfeito 👏👏
LND is growing on me. I've seen some of the bootlegs of the version with Ramin and Sierra, and I love their portrayals of the characters. I cherry-pick my favorite songs, and this is one of them.
This is one of the most powerfull scenes in LND,Erik The Phantom,have the advantage cause knows Christine still love him and Gustave is his son,Ben Lewis looks so great,tall,elegant,regal...Raoul shows his true personality,and(sorry for who prefer Raoul)Raoul the true looser of the night,Bravo,Bravo,Bravissimo to my beloved Phanton❤❤❤
So...I've had this and Moonless Night on repeat for the past two hours. I'm perfectly fine... I say as I once again listen to this song for the 100th time today.😅
Found out and fell in love with Love Never Dies when it was available during quarantine. This (and it's reprise) and Dear Old Friend have got to be the best, most vindictive and angry songs on the show lmao. Love it.
The boy's dressing is also better and this Christine has a better voice. Well, you see, I'm the biggest fan of this version. How romantic the song Beneath the moonless sky!!😍😍😍😍😍
Lyrics, with timestamps: 0:00 Raoul: Miss Giry! He's not Mephistopheles, you know. When it comes down to it, he's just another circus freak! I'm not afraid of him. 0:11 ... No... It can't be. Phantom: Not afraid of me, you say? R: Stay back, or I'll kill you, I promise you! P: Insolent boy. You think you own more of her soul than I? R: She is my _wife._ Your music may speak to her, but her heart will _always_ follow me. P: You think so? You _really_ think so? Follow _you?_ With all your... _charms?_ 0:43 P (singing): Look at you, deep in debt. Stinking drunk. Pitiful. Shall we two make a bet? Devil take the hindmost. 0:58 R (singing): Look at you, foul as _sin._ _Hideous._ Horrible. Call the stakes. Deal me in. Devil take the hindmost. P (R): Our Christine shall choose tonight (Let her choose!) Is she yours or mine? (Draw the line!) If she sings, you lose tonight. (I won't lose!) You leave from here. (Fine!) Disappear. (Fine!) R: And if she won't? If I win? P: All your debts - wiped away. R: Very well. Let's begin. Both: _Devil take the hindmost!_ 1:38 P (R): Our old game (You think you have the odds) It's been changed (You think you're in control) Every throw (You think you've fixed the dice) Riskier (Well, I will gladly roll) All the rules (I'll bet against the house) Rearranged (I'll even double down) Fate has redesigned most (Fortune's on my side) Cut the deck (I won her long ago) Let us play (I won her from you then) You and I (I beat you even now) Once again (I'll win her back again) In the end (And when the game is done!) Either way...! Both: _Devil take the hindmost!_ 2:05 Both: Now Christine shall choose at last. Is she yours or mine? R: We've a son, our bond's secure. 2:15 P (R): Are you sure? (Wut?) Are you so sure? (What do you mean...?) Such a child, strange to see... Talented... musical... Is he more you or me? Which one do you find most? (YOU LIE!) P (R): If you doubt... (No woman could) Doubt your wife... (or ever would) Doubt your son... (love such a man!) Everything... (You're insane!) Now we play for your life! (So now I play for my life!) Both: _Devil take the hindmost!_ 2:45 P (R): Deal the cards! (I call your bluff!) Let them fall (The game is on) Choose your hand (and we will see) Try your best (who wins out) He who wins (once and for all!) Both: Wins it all! _Devil take the hindmost!_ 3:01 Phantom (spoken): She walks, you leave together Pockets full, debts paid. She sings, you leave... _alone._ Devil take the hindmost. 3:20 Raoul (spoken): Dear God... What have I done? I could lose her forever! _MY CHRISTINE!_
One of my favorite scenes. To put a comedy look to this. Imagine 2 strutting roosters fighting over a hen. Ok. I'm overthinking. Sorry.. But I really love Phantom and Love never dies. Good stuff.
Ben: "You think so - you really think so? Follow you; With all your... *insaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaane pause* ...'ChArMs?" That man plays a super intense phantom - I'm literally sitting, and my knees went weak!!!
moments i cant stop watching and why 0:11 - surprise! 0:19 - he’s walking fast and it’s freaking raoul out 1:38 - erik pulls him in and calmly sings while raoul is spitting out lines like his life depends on it 1:45 - fixing his suit in time with the music 1:50 - raoul flipping a chair trying to intimidate erik 1:53 - erik is def thinking about how annoying and immature raoul is acting 1:58 - i really like raoul’s notes here 1:59 - erik said if you’re gonna shout at me i’ll shout back (also like his notes here) 2:15 - when looking at erik’s eyes, he looks like he’s having an aneurysm but also like “oh, if only you knew” 2:31 - raoul having a god damnit moment 2:40 - i think erik is starting to giggle in his head bc he scared raoul 2:52 - erik’s slow look over his shoulder 2:53 - the hand flying out from nowhere 2:56 - erik’s mad. like mad mad. raoul pissed him off 3:01-3:11 - it’s giving OG phantom energy and i’m LIVING for it 3:12-3:15 - just overall smooth and haunting exit by erik 3:20 - raoul god damnit moment pt. 2
When they both have each other by the shirts, it feels like Eric is speaking at that calm pace because he knows he’s in control. Where as Raul he’s speaking in that faster pace because he’s starting to feel like he’s losing control of the situation… And probably at that point pretty much over his entire life
@@sierrawatson8314 On one hand I feel a bit sorry for Raoul in the sense that he knew deep down that he never fully had Christine’s heart and he had to have been suspicions about Gustave being his child, which of course he’d never admit to Erik. But on the other hand his acting like a royal jerk to her all the time, drinking and gambling their money away and giving Gustave the cold shoulder…was all his own doing, and it just opened the door for Erik to swoop in and seduce Christine right back into his arms. I really don’t think Christine would have left Raoul for Erik even though her heart would have still badly wanted to…IF Raoul hadn’t shot himself in the foot by depriving her of love for ten years. Christine is a very self sacrificing person and I think she would have given up her hearts desire (Erik) and left with Raoul to keep her family intact IF he’d still been loving toward her…and Erik knew that, hence why finding out Gustave was his child was so essential to spurring him on to fight to get her back, as he knew she didn’t have much left tying her to Raoul…it was just a matter of getting her to give into her hearts desire. Erik knew how to play his cards right, you have to give him that…and Raoul walked right into his trap.
I think why this is my favorite duel from these two in this, is you can see just how far Raoul has fallen. Penniless. A gambler, and not a very good one. Drinks. Never bothers to understand that he HAS a family. A son who wants to talk to him, connect with him, and he ignores his uniqueness. And yells at Christine and blames everyone of the mistakes that HE caused. So why the Phantom plays the devil this this case, with: “Shall we two, make a bet?” Raoul was quick to jump on it, it made me upset that once he mentions Christine, “If she sings, you lose tonight. You leave from here disappear.” He was quick to ask: “Fine, but if she won’t IF I win?” Just the mention of his debts wiped away he didn’t even care about what SHE wanted. And you think he would learn from his mistakes in The Phantom of the Opera movie. As the song goes: “Say goodbye. As we dance with the devil tonight. Don’t you dare look at him in the eyes...” Raoul has fallen so low, Here’s the difference between Eric and Raoul after this song, no matter what Christine would have chosen Eric would still love her. Raoul just wanted to win. And the fact that Christine slept with him and now their son maybe Eric’s made he realize how he had lost more than he bet on. And that is something he couldn’t take losing.
We love this duet! What are some of your favourite musical theatre duets of all time?
All I Ask of You, Written in the Stars, I’ll Cover You, What You Own, Too Much in Love to Care, More Than America
phantom of the opera and angel of music :)
Christine and The Phantom, Alexander and Angelica, Benny and Usnavi, Orpheus and Eurydice (2017)..
Since this happens to be two men, which is not particularly common in musical theatre...one can't help but think of Les Miz' "The Confrontation" between Valjean and Javert! And to continue my theme, I LOVE "Agony" from Into the Woods, and the little-known "You're Nothing Without Me" from City of Angels!!
@@axelkyster2642 oh, "Agony", right! You've got a great taste!🥂
Erik: You're Drunk
Raoul: You're Ugly
That's it. That's the song
He is my son, ok?
Also that’s song :)
That's oversimplifying. There's also the reveal to Raoul that the Phantom is the father of his boy and of course the bet which is kind of the main plot point of Love Never Dies. So while there is certainly potential wasted in this song, it at least moves the plot along.
Wow wooow! How about the actual bet? This song practically decided their fates. Christine sings - she gets umm.. happily ever after with the Phantom. Christine doesn't sing - she goes back to this wasted mr HerHeartWillAlwaysFollowMe. So.. No. This song has a lot of weight in the plot.))
Настя Соколова I mean phantom makes the opposite deal with Christine.
@@blah7983 elaborate on that please.😅 I don't remember)
Ben Lewis' advantage in height really makes this scene work
That's why I like a taller actor for Erik. It's more hilarious to have a telephone pole compared to the rest of the actors.
A consensus has been reached
@@bleakfang Makes them look VERY intimidating.
Agreed. The only song I prefer Ben over Ramin.
It really does. It's funny watching Ramin do this scene because he's so short
No matter how weird the plot is, no one can deny that Love Never Dies has some amazing songs
I agree.
I mean really only Til I hear you sing and this. I mean beauty underneath is ok but NOTHING compared to the absolute perfection of the original POTO.
@@matth3w2002 Of course, Phantom is still the best, but songs like Til I hear you sing, Devil Take the Hindmost, Once upon another time and Beneath a Moonless sky are awesome
It would be a great show if it wasn’t what it is.
Yeah, the plot was kinda weird
Madame giry: he was a composer, an architect and an inventor
Erik: and a bartender
Nothing wrong with that.
Sometimes you wanna go where everybody knows your name
And he makes one hell of a martini.
@@ianmeadows8719
NORM!
the way how he just pops up 😭
Raoul: “I’m not afraid of him.”
Erik: *shows up*
Raoul: *flinches and backs up*
Erik: “Are you sure about that?”
oh god XD
Erik:do you want to die???
Erik:do you want to die ??
Raoul:no offcose
Erik:THEN LEAVE CHRISTINE ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Raoul (scared):okok fine
@@stauroulats381 oh my god 🤣
I love the Ramin version floating around. The phantom's maskless and he says "Hi"
I just.. I can't help it, the fact that the Phantom is taller than Raoul gives me this weird satisfaction..
Yeahh. I love the height difference 😂
In the book, The Phantom really is taller than Raoul
@@cosmicash7 Wait really? I recently reread it and don't remember.. Can you maybe say like in what context it was mentioned..?)
@@naastyaaaaaaaaa Have you read Susan Kay's Phantom? Sorry, but I *personally* consider it as canon.
As far as my memory goes, it wasn't *directly* mentioned in the original novel, whereas in Phantom, there is this part where Erik silently examines Raoul's physical features and makes a remark on his lack of height (while still being taller than Christine).
ash. Raoul is short? What age is he in the book, 22? Poor thing! 😂
Now Phantom knows he's his son, and his confidence covers the universe.
I like this version, but if you have seen the blocking for the original cast, his confidence is through the roof of time and space
We have a son our bond secured
Phantom: 😏🙄
@@breepinkpanda are you sure ? are you so sure?;)
@@LY-xg3gn yOu LiE!
@@erikthephantom1375 Hi me.
Love that "..Insolent boy!". Takes back to what the Phantom said to Christine about Raoul in TPOTO..))
Yes, and I think that all we can say about Raoul
@@tanguyenbao6749 yep. He's insolent and now he's wasted..
Yessssss
They’re amazing but I’ll never get over the early London version where Ramin pops up, UNMASKED, waves one finger, and says, *“Hi.”*
the whole song is just gold with Ramin. the "hi", the "good one" and the "bye bye wave"
True!!
Where can i find it ??
@@helleow the channel Opera Ghost has the london production version with Ramin.
Wholesome Ramin is best Ramin
2:10
Raoul: we have a son so we have a better bond
Phantom: hehhehehe FOOL YOU JUST SET UP MY GREATEST TRUMP CARD *Uno reverse*
Uno reverse lol😂😂
This comment speaks to my soul LMAO
uno reverse I"M DYING
NOT THE UNO REVERSE
friendship ender
When Raoul says "Look at you, foul as sin, hideous" and it cuts to the Phantom looking like the most attractive man on earth... LOL!
I mean... Raoul needs his eyes checked. 😌
The Phantom: Literally just walking around
Raoul: Throwing chairs (1:51) to try to be as domineering as the phantom
It's probably because he doesn't like the Phantom being taller than him.
@@daisydeaton2679 haha yess exactly what I was thinking 😂😂
Poor chairs 😭
He's not even throwing them, just tipping them over
@@roccstone I mean he is stinking drunk so he probably thinks he's throwing them.
I personally love how Erik is calm and almost bored until the end after he makes the guy doubt everything lol
Something about a lack of emotion seems more intimidating, especially when you compare it to the emotion on Raouls face as he sings. Then when you add the height difference it’s just creates extra intimidation. Until they start singing about Gustav and you can see a sliver of emotion on his face
I love how he waits until the end to show that drunken boy that he is not afraid to still choke him out. 🤣🤣🤣
Ben Lewis voice is scary and powerful. It fits the Phantom perfectly.
And then there’s Ramin Karimloo the cinnamon roll
the ghost is described as having a soft voice, but...yes
@@AraneaTempestatum while that’s how the phantom is originally written and portrayed, I honestly prefer the bolder voice
Angry version of "the other side" from the greatest showman
The greatest showman stole many registic and choreographic ideas from this show...
Watch Never Enough and Love Never Dies scene, or many freaks-ensemble moments in both shows...
Oml I can’t believe you did this but I 100% agree!
Accurate 😂
TGS stole the scores because this is previous than the movie so 🙄🙄
Petition to post devil take the hindmost reprise, wandering child, angel of music, the mirror, all I ask of you, and/or all I ask of you reprise.
I second this
So it's basically petition to post everything about POTO😂
Özge Kılıç, yes. Yes it is
Might as well just buy the actual thing 😂 (it’s worth it)
Second! That quaret would be awesome!
I love their insults
Phantom: 'you're drunk and broke'
Raoul: 'well you're ugly'
@ElizabethMartin All that was missing was a Jack Sparrow-esque "You smell funny." (3/11/2022)
Ben Lewis is hot, Gleeson nails the "pompous English gentleman," blocking is beautiful, Lewis is graceful in this and Beauty Underneath. I want more of these style of songs (contrapuntal, whatever).
I can't agree more.
Raoul is French, so it would be "pompous French gentleman"
2:37 I love Raoul’s little ‘yOuRe iNsaNe’-like he just runs out of insults XDD This song just itches all the right parts of my brain haha
1:47 this. The way he fixes his shirt and matches the music. I don’t know why but I can’t get over it. It’s beautiful. I on the verge of tears watching it.
i remember the live chat. It was "SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS" "team whiskey" "team bartender" "team floor" "team chair"
Chaotic
I'd be team bartender.
That sounds like a party. I wish I could have witnessed that.
@@thinmints4life Same
@@ghostofyou9721 team Erik
So many people give this musical hate. But i really actually Enjoy it
I think the musical is good and I like the music but as a sequel to Phantom of the Opera... absolutely not lol! I like to pretend this isn’t a sequel and enjoy it that way.
I love the songs and the idea, but I hate the ending.
@@AnnaSchokker they did my girl christine dirty
I only despise how it ended, to be honest.
this is my fav love never days Ben's on key ramen over sings
Everyone can agree this musical's plot is sub-par, but the music is PERFECT as we would expect.
plot=🗑
score=🔥
Yea I wish the plot was better
Ben:"Look at you, deep in debt, stinking drunk, pitiful."
Raoul, "Your Horrible!"
Ben: Trying not laugh. "This will be easier than I thought."
You have NO IDEA how long I wanted this 😂
Also: the bet was rigged. They didn’t tell christine and raoul was drunk-
InSoLeNt BoY
What kills me most about this play is that Christine never even finds out about the bet.I feel like Rauol should have just told her about the bet-it's not like the Phantom threatened to kill him if he told her about the bet.
@@rosiemcgosie7376 it makes more sense in the original original london script, where christine has the same ultimatum, sing or leave alone
Literally all my self-esteem would be obliterated if Ben Lewis called me an insolent boy. The way he says it makes you believe it's true.
that's what gets me the most is they didn't tell her. Christine was singing that show FOR RAOUL in the first place, of course she wasn't gonna drop out lmao
In Ramin Karimloo and Sierra Boggess' version, the phantom makes a bet with Christine as well. Basically, if she sings for her, Gustave will live, and if she doesn't, Gustave will die. So it was rigged.
I love how Eric just calmly fixes his tie at the start. Eric grabbing Raoul's neck is so polite of him given what he truly is capable of.
Christine: _"I am not a prize to be won!"_
If I were Christine, I'd leave them both and have Erik/Phantom pay me child support.
@@sharp52092 Run off with Meg, then have Erik pay child support.
@@sharp52092 Phantom surely would do because he loves her and his son 😍😍😍
YOU MADE MY DAY 😂😂😂
ERIC IS A BIT MANIAC AND RAOUL IS A USELESS AND BORING MANEQUIN COMPARED TO THE OTHE ONE 🤣🤣🤣
Kaveh and Lindsay Ellis said the exact same thing in their MusicalSplaining podcast.
@@sharp52092 I agree!! And let Phantom have visitation rights since he’s never done anything to hurt this child.
The way the phantom keeps his composure while raoul rages on shows how the phantom has learned how to control his emotions while in battle with his enemies, until he’s close enough to strike
This Erik looks like a mannequin, ghost like even. I think it ties everything together, definitely makes him more intimidating, I love it.
1:37 - I just love this part - they stop being nice and taking turns at being snide, and just go at one another at the same time.
My favorite part is when the phantom very properly fixes his vest and cravat and of course the smooth and intimidating slow prowl.
It's so good and so powerful! !
After 10 years, these two still fight over Christine's heart to sing or not to sing.
I love in this version where Ben's Phantom grabs Raoul by the throat and Raoul is completely helpless to do anything. It shows how much stronger Erik is than Raoul.
They are a fucking great duo! I want to see a silly and funny sequel of the two of them taking care of Gustave and fighting over even the smallest nonsense and sharing the love for the boy and eventually appreciating each other!✨
0:35 Let's take a moment to appreciate the camera angle and lighting here. Normally the mask and the Phantom are kind of silly, but in this shot? He looks scary as hell! It really helps that the actor has deep set eyes that turn his facial features into shadow in this light.
honestly the Australia production deserves all the love
All productions do. They are all talented people. Behind and on stage.
@@vibevibe11 surely they are...
i think the thing i like most is how calm the phantom is and how raoul just squirms at the fact hes losing
oh and how amazing erik looks in his outfit ;)
y e s ;)
The phantom's definitely better at roasting than Raoul is. He rattles off 3 insults in a row: deep in depth, drunk, pitiful. And all Raoul can do to retort is call him 3 synonyms for "ugly".
LYRICS!
RAOUL:
Miss Giry! He's not Mephistopheles, you know. When it comes down to it, he's just another circus freak.
I'm not afraid of him.
..No, it can't be...
THE PHANTOM:
Not afraid of me, you say?
RAOUL:
Stay back or I'll kill you, I promise you!
THE PHANTOM:
Insolent boy! You think you own more of her soul than I do?
RAOUL:
She is my wife. Your music may speak to her, but her heart will always follow me.
THE PHANTOM:
You think so?
You really think so?
Follow you..
With all your... charms?
...
Look at you, deep in dept
Stinking drunk, pitiful!
Shall we two make a bet?
Devil take the hindmost.
RAOUL:
Look at you, foul as sin
Hideous, horrible
Call the stakes, deal me in
Devil take the hindmost.
THE PHANTOM/(RAOUL):
Our Christine shall choose tonight
(Let her choose)
Is she yours or mine?
(Draw the line)
If she sings you lose tonight
(I won't lose)
THE PHANTOM:
You leave from here
RAOUL:
Fine!
THE PHANTOM:
Disappear
RAOUL:
FINE!
And if she won't?
if I win?
THE PHANTOM:
All your debts wiped away..
RAOUL:
Very well, let's begin
BOTH:
Devil take the hindmost!
THE PHANTOM/(RAOUL):
(You think you have the odds)
Our old game
(You think you're in control)
It's been changed
(You think you've fixed the dice)
Every throw
(Well I will gladly roll)
Riskier
(I'll bet against the house)
All the rules
(I'll even double down)
Rearranged
Fate has redesigned most.
(Fortune's on my side
I won her long ago!)
Cut the deck
(I won her from you then)
Let us play
(I wager even now)
You and I
(I'll win her back again)
Once again
In the end
(And when the game is done)
Either way
BOTH:
Devil take the hindmost!
Now Christine shall choose at last
Is she yours or mine?
RAOUL:
We've a son, our bond's secure..
THE PHANTOM:
Are you sure?
RAOUL:
What?
THE PHANTOM:
Are you so sure?
RAOUL:
..What do you mean?..
THE PHANTOM:
Such a child, strange to see
Talented, musical
Is he more you or me?
Which one do you find most?
RAOUL:
You lie!
THE PHANTOM/(RAOUL):
Yet you boubt
(No woman could)
Doubt your wife
(Or ever would)
Doubt your son
(Love such a man)
Everything
(You're insane!)
So now we (I) play for your (my) life!
BOTH:
Devil take the hindmost!
THE PHANTOM/(RAOUL):
Deal the cards
(I call your bluff)
Let them fall
(The game is on)
Choose your hand
(And we will see)
Try your best
(Who wins out)
He who wins
(Once and for all)
BOTH:
Wins it aaaaaall!
Devil take the hindmost!
THE PHANTOM:
She walks, you leave together.
Pockets full, debts paid.
She sings...
You leave alone.
Devil take the hindmost..
RAOUL:
Dear God. What have I done? I could lose her forever. My Christine!..
...
PS: I never liked Raoul, but damn this song is amazing..
PPS: Ooh, remember writing the lyrics to the audio version of this.. Aww..)
PPPS: I couldn't find perfectly right lyrics anywhere, so I changed some stuff. Hope everything here is correct.))
PPPPS: just for those who are still reading for some reason.. I LOVE it so much.. And Ben's voice.. impossibly beautiful, as always.🖤
Thanks! Couldn't find it full
@@kittykat8975 🖤
Thank you!! I am an alto and I can’t sing Christine but I *can* sing the Phantom :)
I really love the phantom saying “INSOLENT BOY”😍
Insolent boy, this slave of fashion
Basking in your glory!!
Ignorant fool, this brave young suitor
Sharing in my triumph!!🎶🎼
@@rosemarymadelein5Angel I hear, you speak, I listen
Stay by my side, come to meeeeee
Angel, my soul was weak, forgive me
Eeenter at last maaaaaaaasteeeerrrr
I love “love never dies” I don’t care what people say, sure it’s not the best musical but it’s still a good one ❤️🌹
Also love this song too
Yay! Another Love Never Dies fan!!!
HHH yes,its a "comfort" musical for me.When i m sad i always listen to it,it makes me feel better 🥺💓
I am a fan as well! (Also the 69th like. N i c e)
I’m so happy I’m not the only one. I absolutely ❤️ it.
LND is one of my top 3 musicals!!💞
Raul: I'm not afraid of him!
Erik: *turns around*
Raul: *fUcK tHiS sHiT iM oUt*
Roul’s acting is really great here! He says everything so naturally
I really like Ben's voice and his prescence.
Erik: *turns around fabulously while looking down in a slight glare*
Raoul: *thinks: amazing-*
This sing is...
Am I ugly?
OK.
By the way... he is MY son.
HAHAHA
Raoul…….
You are
*NOT*
the father !!!!!
Ben Lewis is the best !! His height makes him more impressive. Love his voice !
If only Ben and his brother Alex would consider reuniting reviving an Aussie production of Love Never Dies LOL and being rivals depicted here as a Erik and Raoul. That would double the fun!!!
I want third part where Rauol and Erik raise Gustave together after Christine's death.
me, not having seen love never dies: WAT
@@jjjasperr sorryy for spoilers. It's awful but I love it
@@sofiahollmen lol its ok.
Me, who haven't watched "Love never dies" yet: Wait, so you're tellin me that Christine *Daaes* at the end?
@@raincloud6904 I love the pun
I wonder what lead Mr Webber to decide, "Yep The Phantom is a part time bar tender!"
The outfit, definitely.
@@Nick98076 He probably new fangirls would be ALL over that! lol I think that one performance by Ramin Karimloo was funny. Right after Raoul saw him but before he said "no, it can't be" Ramin gave a cheeky "hi" to Raoul that cracked me up. Ramin's Phantom is very flavourful that way. Over all, I think the whole scene of Devil Take The Hindmost is kinda funny. The bar tender thing throws you for a loop, and yet, it's somehow believable. And to think all Meg would've had to do to have an actual conversation with The Phantom was to wait a little longer for her coffee. The whole thing is beautiful. Anyway, I'm rambling! Totally agree! 😅
@@ifucanseethisivealreadytra1594 Ramin's version is great, I love what he does with the character! I don't think I could choose between this version and the London one. Devil take the hindmost is definitely one of my favorite scene's from LND. I like at 1:44 when he is fixing his clothes and is giving off an "ew, he touched me" vibe! But anyway, I'm rambling, thanks for sharing you thoughts!
What led Mr Webber to this was the idea of a payday making a sequel - which, as usual, should never have been made.
I will defend the hell out of this musical!! Its beautiful, brilliant and so emotional. Also, Ben Lewis is perfect as the Phantom and Anna O'Byrnes perfection as Christine too!!
Agree.
so will I I love love never dies Australia Ben Lewis n Anna Obryne are phoemnal
truths are told today, this musical is very good and they are perfect for the phantom of the opera and Christine
YES
These two had more chemistry in this song than Erik and Christine in the entire musical
Salty Pear agree - Anna and Ben absolutely zero chemistry - no way I believe they were in love little own have a son together - but hay - it’s a musical so you go with it 😳🥴
😂😂
Lol this song is one of the best of the entire musical. I love Erik's character but he is definitely not the best match for Christine come on
TRUEEEEEEEE!✨
There was more chemistry between these two than either had with Christine (in this one specifically)
"You think you own more of her soul than I do?" Love that threat to Raoul. Further proof that the Phantom wins Christine before the end. The title song was his final victory revenge on Raoul for taking Christine, the woman he desired to be his queen of his unearthly music, in the first place.
Ben's eyes kill me every time he looks so surprised 😂❤️
Just listen to the two versions of London and Australia again. Well, each has its own advantages to describe the Phantom in this song and I like both:
- London - Ramin: Sarcasm, Mockery, and Contemptuous
- Australia - Ben: Sassy, Bold, and Badass
No one is overrated or underrated, to me both Ramin and Ben have played their "own version of Phantom" and that's why they have been remembered and get recognized. Why must we compare them to each other? Just enjoy the song and that's all.
where can you see the original version in full?
Ben is THE PHANTOM for me there is no more, he's just AMAZING there's something ghostly about him that makes his portrayal of the phantom the best for me. And Anna is a queen too. ❤
I totally agree Ben is my only Phantom n Anna is the best Christine they are phoemnal
I prefer Ramin and Sierra as lead roles but here... Ben Lewis... Uh, I can't get enough of his deep and powerful voice. >w< And also his portrayal of Erik is very on point, also I think that he's acting choices were inspired by Lon Chaney's Phantom, his mimics and little manierysms. That's just great!
@@gaburysuje6766 YES! Their is something very old school Universal Monster Dracula/Nosferatu etc about Ben’s portrayal right down to his ‘crazy eyes’ LOL
I get a lot of Lon Chaney/Boris Karloff vibes from him and I love it, I know some people have said Ben is a bit too ‘stiff’ but I feel that’s very deliberate on his part and it adds to his characters menace as you get a sense that that facade of control is very thin at the end of the day and their is a volcano just waiting to blow just underneath the surface…you really DON’T want to mess with this guy!
I LOVE this scene, it’s so powerful!
People can fight and say its a horrible musical, but give me a who's the baby daddy scenario and I'm all in!
Fuck those guys who says this bad
I know right? It's like a musical version of a soap opera! 👌😂
Andrea Carroll finally someone else with an aot pfp commenting under a poto content
double EnnD production Well, I do like both fandoms after all. 😁
Andrea Carroll me too 😂
O mais engraçado é a parte (01:02) onde o Raoul canta "Olha você, sujo como o pecado, hediondo, horrível"... aí a câmera foca no Fantasma super lindo😍😂 Amei que gravaram a versão australiana em vez da versão de Londres. Quando ele arruma a gravata é perfeito 👏👏
SIMMMMM KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
Essa direção só mostra o Erik pleno e calmo, a superioridade dele em relação ao Raoul é visível 😌
I like Ben Lewis in this. He takes command of his role well, both the man and the dark inner Phantom.
Ben Lewis saying “charms” at 0:38 does something to me I can’t explain
Ben Lewis is the perfect Phantom 🥰🥰🥰
FINALLY. I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS.
the tension in this one though... 👀👀
OMG THE WAY ERIK SAYS “insolent boy” as a throwback SLAYS
When Covid first started this show was the only thing that kept me going
Vastly underrated show.. saw this in the first London run... some great music as usual
BEN is AMAZING 💖
I love this version of the Phantom. So much strength and sass.
Phantom spinning around to look at Raoul like 👁👁 will never not be funny to me
LND is growing on me. I've seen some of the bootlegs of the version with Ramin and Sierra, and I love their portrayals of the characters. I cherry-pick my favorite songs, and this is one of them.
This is the scene that makes this musical enjoyable
Say what you will about Love Never Dies, this song was killer.
This is one of the most powerfull scenes in LND,Erik The Phantom,have the advantage cause knows Christine still love him and Gustave is his son,Ben Lewis looks so great,tall,elegant,regal...Raoul shows his true personality,and(sorry for who prefer Raoul)Raoul the true looser of the night,Bravo,Bravo,Bravissimo to my beloved Phanton❤❤❤
I love Ben Lewis as the Phantom he is so handsome and beautiful 💜💜💜💜💜💜💝💜💜💜💜💝💝
So...I've had this and Moonless Night on repeat for the past two hours. I'm perfectly fine... I say as I once again listen to this song for the 100th time today.😅
Found out and fell in love with Love Never Dies when it was available during quarantine. This (and it's reprise) and Dear Old Friend have got to be the best, most vindictive and angry songs on the show lmao. Love it.
Yes!! I love “Love Never Dies” it’s one of my favorite musicals, up there with Phantom! This song is especially amazing! The acting is so great 💙🌹✨
I absolutely LOVE this version, this duet is just MMMMM
Could we have _Down Once More_ next?!
*say it louder for the people in the back*
The hannibal scene too
That’s like a 20 min long vid lol
@@brandanl7780 exactly ;)
Britneyyy Haha I see you
My absolute favorite song from Love Never Dies!
The boy's dressing is also better and this Christine has a better voice. Well, you see, I'm the biggest fan of this version. How romantic the song Beneath the moonless sky!!😍😍😍😍😍
Raoul: I’m not afraid of him
Erik: aight bet
You can see the excitement in his eyes when Raoul takes the bait this is amazing
Lyrics, with timestamps:
0:00
Raoul:
Miss Giry! He's not Mephistopheles, you know.
When it comes down to it, he's just another circus freak!
I'm not afraid of him.
0:11
...
No...
It can't be.
Phantom:
Not afraid of me, you say?
R:
Stay back, or I'll kill you, I promise you!
P:
Insolent boy. You think you own more of her soul than I?
R:
She is my _wife._
Your music may speak to her, but her heart will _always_ follow me.
P:
You think so?
You _really_ think so?
Follow _you?_
With all your... _charms?_
0:43
P (singing):
Look at you, deep in debt.
Stinking drunk.
Pitiful.
Shall we two make a bet?
Devil take the hindmost.
0:58
R (singing):
Look at you, foul as _sin._
_Hideous._
Horrible.
Call the stakes. Deal me in.
Devil take the hindmost.
P (R):
Our Christine shall choose tonight (Let her choose!)
Is she yours or mine? (Draw the line!)
If she sings, you lose tonight. (I won't lose!)
You leave from here. (Fine!)
Disappear. (Fine!)
R:
And if she won't? If I win?
P:
All your debts - wiped away.
R:
Very well. Let's begin.
Both:
_Devil take the hindmost!_
1:38
P (R):
Our old game (You think you have the odds)
It's been changed (You think you're in control)
Every throw (You think you've fixed the dice)
Riskier (Well, I will gladly roll)
All the rules (I'll bet against the house)
Rearranged (I'll even double down)
Fate has redesigned most (Fortune's on my side)
Cut the deck (I won her long ago)
Let us play (I won her from you then)
You and I (I beat you even now)
Once again (I'll win her back again)
In the end (And when the game is done!)
Either way...!
Both:
_Devil take the hindmost!_
2:05
Both:
Now Christine shall choose at last.
Is she yours or mine?
R:
We've a son, our bond's secure.
2:15
P (R):
Are you sure? (Wut?)
Are you so sure? (What do you mean...?)
Such a child, strange to see...
Talented... musical...
Is he more you or me?
Which one do you find most?
(YOU LIE!)
P (R):
If you doubt... (No woman could)
Doubt your wife... (or ever would)
Doubt your son... (love such a man!)
Everything... (You're insane!)
Now we play for your life! (So now I play for my life!)
Both:
_Devil take the hindmost!_
2:45
P (R):
Deal the cards! (I call your bluff!)
Let them fall (The game is on)
Choose your hand (and we will see)
Try your best (who wins out)
He who wins (once and for all!)
Both:
Wins it all!
_Devil take the hindmost!_
3:01
Phantom (spoken):
She walks, you leave together
Pockets full, debts paid.
She sings, you leave... _alone._
Devil take the hindmost.
3:20
Raoul (spoken):
Dear God...
What have I done?
I could lose her forever!
_MY CHRISTINE!_
Lets all agree on something: this was a much needed epilogue.
Songs are great and even bring back some nostalgic flashbacks to the first one
One of my favorite scenes. To put a comedy look to this. Imagine 2 strutting roosters fighting over a hen. Ok. I'm overthinking. Sorry.. But I really love Phantom and Love never dies. Good stuff.
Ben:
"You think so - you really think so?
Follow you;
With all your...
*insaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaane pause*
...'ChArMs?"
That man plays a super intense phantom - I'm literally sitting, and my knees went weak!!!
I just love Ben Lewis, period😂😍
moments i cant stop watching and why
0:11 - surprise!
0:19 - he’s walking fast and it’s freaking raoul out
1:38 - erik pulls him in and calmly sings while raoul is spitting out lines like his life depends on it
1:45 - fixing his suit in time with the music
1:50 - raoul flipping a chair trying to intimidate erik
1:53 - erik is def thinking about how annoying and immature raoul is acting
1:58 - i really like raoul’s notes here
1:59 - erik said if you’re gonna shout at me i’ll shout back (also like his notes here)
2:15 - when looking at erik’s eyes, he looks like he’s having an aneurysm but also like “oh, if only you knew”
2:31 - raoul having a god damnit moment
2:40 - i think erik is starting to giggle in his head bc he scared raoul
2:52 - erik’s slow look over his shoulder
2:53 - the hand flying out from nowhere
2:56 - erik’s mad. like mad mad. raoul pissed him off
3:01-3:11 - it’s giving OG phantom energy and i’m LIVING for it
3:12-3:15 - just overall smooth and haunting exit by erik
3:20 - raoul god damnit moment pt. 2
Im living for this comment 😂
I LOVE this ! 😂
When they both have each other by the shirts, it feels like Eric is speaking at that calm pace because he knows he’s in control. Where as Raul he’s speaking in that faster pace because he’s starting to feel like he’s losing control of the situation… And probably at that point pretty much over his entire life
@@sierrawatson8314 On one hand I feel a bit sorry for Raoul in the sense that he knew deep down that he never fully had Christine’s heart and he had to have been suspicions about Gustave being his child, which of course he’d never admit to Erik.
But on the other hand his acting like a royal jerk to her all the time, drinking and gambling their money away and giving Gustave the cold shoulder…was all his own doing, and it just opened the door for Erik to swoop in and seduce Christine right back into his arms.
I really don’t think Christine would have left Raoul for Erik even though her heart would have still badly wanted to…IF Raoul hadn’t shot himself in the foot by depriving her of love for ten years.
Christine is a very self sacrificing person and I think she would have given up her hearts desire (Erik) and left with Raoul to keep her family intact IF he’d still been loving toward her…and Erik knew that, hence why finding out Gustave was his child was so essential to spurring him on to fight to get her back, as he knew she didn’t have much left tying her to Raoul…it was just a matter of getting her to give into her hearts desire.
Erik knew how to play his cards right, you have to give him that…and Raoul walked right into his trap.
My favvvvorite. I love Simon Gleeson. But this is a massive earworm. I will be singing it for days.
I want a sitcom where Erik and Raoul move in together and attempt to co-parent Gustave.
That’d be cool but realistically I doubt Raoul would want any part of it.
@@Annahg78 Raoul would have to address his alcohol and PTSD problems first. Erik would do well with a therapist too.
"he's just another circus freak" *famous last words*
Now I'm feeling like an object being disputed...
Well, at least they care
@@Nick98076 I guess..
@@elizabethschuyler_hamilton better than not having either of them care, I think, maybe, actually I'm not so sure
@Christine Daaé uhum
@@elizabethschuyler_hamilton well that's awkward.
I think why this is my favorite duel from these two in this, is you can see just how far Raoul has fallen. Penniless. A gambler, and not a very good one. Drinks. Never bothers to understand that he HAS a family. A son who wants to talk to him, connect with him, and he ignores his uniqueness. And yells at Christine and blames everyone of the mistakes that HE caused. So why the Phantom plays the devil this this case, with:
“Shall we two, make a bet?”
Raoul was quick to jump on it, it made me upset that once he mentions Christine,
“If she sings, you lose tonight. You leave from here disappear.”
He was quick to ask:
“Fine, but if she won’t IF I win?”
Just the mention of his debts wiped away he didn’t even care about what SHE wanted. And you think he would learn from his mistakes in The Phantom of the Opera movie.
As the song goes:
“Say goodbye. As we dance with the devil tonight. Don’t you dare look at him in the eyes...”
Raoul has fallen so low, Here’s the difference between Eric and Raoul after this song, no matter what Christine would have chosen Eric would still love her. Raoul just wanted to win. And the fact that Christine slept with him and now their son maybe Eric’s made he realize how he had lost more than he bet on. And that is something he couldn’t take losing.
On ”let her choose” I started wheezing I stg I had a massive adrenaline rush lol
This is how you tell someone that he is not the father of the child!
You think so? You really think so? Such a boy... talented... musical...
You lie!
This is one of my favorite confrontation scenes in all musical theatre!
These too really are the perfect Raoul and phantom
I love that they filmed a Australian version of Love Never Dies in September 2011