STAGES POWER METER | TWO YEAR REVIEW

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  • @michwoz
    @michwoz 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    My first advice for Stages owners is always: open the battery cap and let it dry after every wet ride. Do it and your Stages will be fine.

  • @tumbleweedking5668
    @tumbleweedking5668 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Power source is only half of the equation, you need to pair it with a good head unit from which you can download your rides. That way you can gauge improvements either from racing or PB's on your training routes.

  • @karlseren2284
    @karlseren2284 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great review Katie honest and sincere. You look great and your enthusiasm is infectious.

  • @deaglain
    @deaglain 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The beauty of a dual sided powermeter, is if like me when I started using it, I was able to see I pushed 52/54 % with my left leg. The single sided power meter would take 52/54 and double it, giving you a higher power number than your actually pushing.
    I found stretching to help massively. I'm a lot closer to 50/50 now.

    • @KatieKookaburra
      @KatieKookaburra  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      What kind of stretches do you do??

    • @KatieKookaburra
      @KatieKookaburra  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I need to start!!

    • @deaglain
      @deaglain 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its my hamstrings that were my biggest problem, I looked up a few basic YOGA streches on TH-cam(simple one like touching my toes), they worked great. But I never stretched before( I know, terrible) and really felt the difference in my legs when I started.

    • @deaglain
      @deaglain 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ekhart yoga, 3 yoga poses to increase hamstring flexibility. That's the video I found first, tried it and it worked a treat.

    • @dOoMnX
      @dOoMnX 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      So what if it was reading 4% higher? Still accurate enough for most cyclists. Consistency is what matters most, so you can track your progress.

  • @nicolemitsi
    @nicolemitsi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Besides my bike, a power meter was one of the best investments I made into my fitness. I honestly don't know how I could ride without one now! Training without a power meter is like training in the dark.
    The stages was a good entry level power meter for me, but unfortunately I just had waaayyyy too many issues with it and was definitely not worth the $900 I spent on it. It would constantly cut out for no reason, and the battery cap was not sealing properly so it would always let water in. Stages sent me a new battery cap and it did exactly the same thing so I have to constantly wrap and re-wrap with electrical tap to prevent water getting in. I live in the driest state, on the driest continent in the world and with what small amount of rain we get here I STILL had trouble with mine (and I would constantly dry it and air it out). Just way to much trouble for what you pay imo. I recently upgraded to a Quarq and am so much happier with it. The sealing on the battery cap is WAY better and have had no issues with water getting in (i.e. it's actually water proof). It's a bit more expensive but I guess you get what you pay for (and if I'm spending $900 or more for a power meter I don't want to wrapping my Ultegra crank with electrical tape lol).
    Sounds like you had a good experience with yours, so maybe I was just unlucky and got a dud. But then again, Anthony works in the biggest bike store in Adelaide and they had over 150 stages returned for warranty, whereas only 2 Quarqs were returned for warranty in a time period of 12 months. I guess there's a reason stages has good warranty.

    • @KatieKookaburra
      @KatieKookaburra  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I do hear a lot of people having issues but mine has been great. Yeah you’re right it’s like training in the dark without one. Glad the Quark is working out for you :)

    • @fenderperry
      @fenderperry 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nicole Mitsi They are like 5 or 6 hundred here in US.

    • @fenderperry
      @fenderperry 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nicole Mitsi if I buy another it would be a Quarg power meter.

    • @jakob6455
      @jakob6455 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KatieKookaburra hey, what is the power delay on that stages powermeter. How many seconds between pushing on pedals and power numbers appearing on the screen?

  • @4aehwa
    @4aehwa 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm really new to cycling, own a Flux as well and am happy with it. Last week I did some research about powermeters for my 105 and decided to save the money. Thanks for probably changing my decision... 😂🤙

  • @stephencowman3142
    @stephencowman3142 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you tried power tap p1 pedals?I'm thinking about getting some.Have you had a go at Alp Du Zwift?great video,keep up the good work!

  • @noe1135
    @noe1135 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! what kind of device are you using to display your power? Are there many that are compatible with the stages powermeter?

  • @laurawallace4345
    @laurawallace4345 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for doing this review! I'm going to get one but either need a new bike or to upgrade the groupset on my current one. Based on what a few people have now said I don't think I'll go for a carbon frame, but a higher end alloy instead

  • @Andy7846
    @Andy7846 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My good bike also has 105. I’ve often thought there’s nothing on this bike that I’d upgrade or change, maybe a power meter would be a good addition. Does it also act as a cadence sensor?

    • @pasttimeph
      @pasttimeph 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i just got off the phone with stages, Stages Power meter sends both watts and RPM to the head unit via its ANT+ or Bluetooth Smart connection

    • @KatieKookaburra
      @KatieKookaburra  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep cadence and watts :)

  • @1972andyb
    @1972andyb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    great vid Katie. thanks. just ordered one (ultegra) and gone for shorter cranks too. on the same week as ordering a wattbike lol.
    thankyou for your great content. hope you are well. tc

  • @onlymeok
    @onlymeok 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Infocrank battery compartment can withstand a pressure washer water jet. The Stages has an issue reporting correct power with oval chainrings. For the best bike compatibility, pedal based power meters have matured nicely.

  • @aintohvri3567
    @aintohvri3567 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent call to have power meter on a bike by standard! On race bikes at least. Would also engage people to do sports and dive into it, get driven.

  • @roof30
    @roof30 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is excellent Katie, thank you. I've been toying with the idea of a power meter for about six months now, but don't want (or need) anything too expensive or complex. I have 105 on my Cannondale Synapse so will most likely go for the Stages 105 too. Oh, and I got the Craft Cadence backpack on your recommendation; best waterproof backpack I've ever used - bar none!

    • @KatieKookaburra
      @KatieKookaburra  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So glad you like the backpack, it’s really good isn’t it. And yeah the 105 power metre has been so good for me. They have good customer service from what I hear too. It’s been a good one :) if you get one let me know how you get on with it. I have really appreciated using one and feel it gives me extra confidence on the bike too :)

  • @ernestasl
    @ernestasl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've noticed that reducing Wifi and Bluetooth usage (using ethernet instead of WiFi, using wired headphones instead of Bluetooth, etc.) helps a lot when on Zwift.

  • @Tuffjobs
    @Tuffjobs 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When I stand up and pedal on steep hills it registers 0 watts. Just when I need it to work! Low speed, low cadence, high torque shows zero watts! I wouldn’t recommend.

  • @StephanieHughesDesign
    @StephanieHughesDesign 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos. Suggestion: I dislike Shimano SPD's, (hotspots) not intended for long distance cycling. I have changed to Look Keo many years ago and also Crank Bros Candy platofrm Egg Beaters. Just a thought. I do like Stages PM's. Still like heart rate monitors though.

  • @Eric_Tennant
    @Eric_Tennant 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    400. ekk. Think ill keep using my time and speed as my power meter. I'll use the 400 for more food. Why no heart rate meter (not that I have one)? {side note. I have no idea how to make the pound $$$ other then the windows Character map, too lazy to look for it}.

    • @KatieKookaburra
      @KatieKookaburra  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But speed isn’t showing your effort and they are a fair bit cheaper now :) use what works for you though for sure!

    • @Eric_Tennant
      @Eric_Tennant 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KatieKookaburra True. I like the idea of them; however been spending a lot cash on my bike right now and need to hold off for a while or my wife going to shoot me.
      Plus I'm just starting on week 6 up to 375 miles total. 105 mile in June, and 270 in July so far. So I can tell already that my legs are gaining power fast.
      At first my battery could get me 30 miles before it and me were done. Now It does 50 miles and I feel fine.
      I love tech. Spent most of my life wasting away at a keyboard. So really I'm just jealous of your nice toy.

  • @herobo123456
    @herobo123456 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stages have a major problem in that the strain sensor comes apart from the crank arm over time giving incorrect readings watch for this if you have one. Go for 4iii much better as the sensor is much shorter and does not separate

  • @indonesiaamerica7050
    @indonesiaamerica7050 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Vector pedals are superior unless you can't use Look/Shimano-style cleats. The reason is that you get advanced torque analysis, which is key to serious analysis if you can't figure out why your progress is stagnating. I use the advanced reports to troubleshoot saddle position as well and it also helps you figure out when you're getting "burned out" in anaerobic jumps in to higher zones rather than just looking at zone summaries and assuming that you're doing everything "correctly" according to lowest common denominator coaching doctrines. IOW, instead of being fatalistic about your own "genetic" abilities you can get in to advanced problem solving and figure out how to fine tune your structured training and rest.

  • @thecappy
    @thecappy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this review. I know this is older but it helped me get a stages LS for the new grx. Subscription added.

    • @KatieKookaburra
      @KatieKookaburra  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You got the GRX one before me haha. Enjoy :)

  • @CoachCarter2184
    @CoachCarter2184 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    My only issue with Stages Power is that its one sided, and you don't know how your power output is between legs. I went with the Power Tap P1 Pedals. The only downfall is they have their own special cleat, but you can easily switch them over easily between bikes as long as you have the right tools.

  • @Ricobass0
    @Ricobass0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was pricey (over £400) back in 2018. They seem to be around £300 now. However, you still you'd have to factor in a £200-300 head unit if moving from a steam cycle computer + a speed sensor(?). Does the power crank have rpm output? Otherwise there's a rev sensor to add to that too. Could easily cost over £600! All the same, I may have to go for it as I'm now just using a trainer, in lockdown, in the garage and have got used to having the numbers. You made a good point about the wind. I regularly get dropped when it's windy even though it feels like I'm working very hard.

  • @markreams3192
    @markreams3192 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve been considering the Stages single side power meter. Unfortunately I fractured my right hip last September and that leg is not back to full strength yet. I think the power reading which is based on the right leg may not be accurate. The power from both legs is extrapolated from the right leg output. What do you think? I agree. Power output is the most accurate way of gauging progress!

    • @KatieKookaburra
      @KatieKookaburra  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The accuracy point I find arbitrary - as long as the power on one device is gradually increasing. I have rated mine so much. It’s good to see improvements too

  • @psylsph
    @psylsph 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Katie are you still using this on your new 7000 series crankset?

  • @swites
    @swites 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've got the Gen2 as well. I think they mainly sorted out the water ingress issue over the Gen1? but then it doesn't rain as much here. I've ridden in a few wet days but not really torrential. I've got ultegra 67 and 6800 on both my bikes(one's my commuter the other is my race bike) but went with the 105 just because its cheaper and still is just as accurate. I just change the stages between the 2bikes which takes only 5minutes. Have learnt so much about what type of rider I am(definitely not a sprinter!), and what I was doing wrong before. I've been able to work on my weaknesses and am now better because of it :)

  • @joannasobkowicz3722
    @joannasobkowicz3722 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi, are you still using stages or something else?

  • @gabrielung4088
    @gabrielung4088 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video, you make some excellent points.

  • @jamesp.1784
    @jamesp.1784 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I ride with Rotor dual power and the first thing that I do when I get back from a mucky ride is blast my bike and powermeter with the hose pipe.
    Why would someone buy something that is so temperamental and easily damaged by water ingress? You shouldn't have to "touch wood" your powermeter is still working, it should just work!

    • @KatieKookaburra
      @KatieKookaburra  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the older generations have had issues but mine has been spot on

  • @deaglain
    @deaglain 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have the powertap p1 pedals, can't fault them.

    • @herobo123456
      @herobo123456 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bearings will go wait for it

  • @SprintTri57
    @SprintTri57 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have used stages for 10 years or so and really like it. I have one on my Tri bike and one on my road bike (different crank arm lengths). However, they both run 10-12% lower in power than my Wahoo Kicker power which is extremely accurate. I calibrate every month stages and Kickr.

    • @KatieKookaburra
      @KatieKookaburra  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is accurate to itself but as it’s only one side it might be that your right leg is stronger - so when on the Kickr it’s taking both into account.

  • @dingodoggy66
    @dingodoggy66 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve had a stages for 3 years and 2 bikes with quark Dzero for 18 months. No end of problems with quark. Stages has been flawless. I never look at left/right balance. Guess which power meter I’ll be buying next time.

  • @Ub7m
    @Ub7m 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t have no power meter or stuff like that , I have cadence on my cateye Strada ....but I tend to watch my pace , but I guess that is nothing to compare to watts ..so the left arm variant would give a watts breakdown and take into consideration of the right side arm and give you the data

  • @marksmith566
    @marksmith566 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Katie, I’m in the market for my first power meter especially after using Tacx Neo with Zwift it’s made me realise how much I need one. I was looking at the stages but I’m put off by all the negative reviews, like you I only want a cheaper single sided meter just to give me a number I can work with so nothing fancy but heck it’s a minefield!!!

  • @RustyRaine1
    @RustyRaine1 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought a left hand side stages. Seems kind of lame that the stages app doesn't have 3 second average. The instantaneous reading bounces around way to much to track. So be prepared to buy a bike computer.

  • @pasttimeph
    @pasttimeph 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    great review, especially with the wind factor. con to me is that it costs more than my groupset lol

  • @justluke8836
    @justluke8836 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If anyone wants a cheap power meter, someone done a good review of the xcadey power metre from ali express, apparently it as near as damn it matched garmin vectors and its only about 175 quid.

  • @realinohio
    @realinohio 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to get one. I use HR monitor now and it just isn't consistent. Thank you for the info :-)

  • @petef15
    @petef15 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    power meters honestly feel like cheating on strava. Something i've noticed for more undulating segments is to do a sort of over under thing for best times. So on the uphills go 50w over your FTP, and for the downhills go 50w under, this can be tweaked to get the right average power.

  • @thankyoujesus2836
    @thankyoujesus2836 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wondering if you could just tape it down when it rains

    • @michwoz
      @michwoz 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can. It will do the job, but... After the wet ride, with tape on, you absolutely need to un-tape it, take the battery off, leave it open and let it dry or you'l be risking moisture (which will get inside anyway) draining your battery or killing your power meter electronics (corrosion, short circuiting etc.).

  • @stevezodiac491
    @stevezodiac491 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stages only doubles the left leg power if single sided so not truly accurate, also for people with a lot of bikes swapping from one bike to another is a problem if your older bikes are square drive etc. Power pedals are much better for interchangeability. I have 8 bikes from brand new to 20 years old and my favero assimo duo pedals fit them all, taking a couple of minutes to swap from bike to bike and the power is true with them not being one sided. They have performed perfectly and as well as this they have just dropped their price recently. Accuracy is very good also with them reflecting almost exactly the power indicated on my tacx neo smart trainer.

  • @klunker289
    @klunker289 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Katie you're so pretty🐛

  • @troycollett8540
    @troycollett8540 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Power meters are getting cheaper with stages and 4iiii similar pricing here in Australia

  • @quenar
    @quenar 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tx Katie, you're a star :)

  • @al-du6lb
    @al-du6lb ปีที่แล้ว

    well, you sold me.

  • @mutantbaby1672
    @mutantbaby1672 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not a pro either so the power estimation in Strava is good enough. If only they would estimate VO2max for me that would be perfect. Power meters are too expensive and they are not even 100% accurate until you blow a ton of money to get L+R.

    • @sirdmayo
      @sirdmayo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The power estimation on Strava is NOT good enough, it's actually garbage data!

  • @petyrkowalski9887
    @petyrkowalski9887 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you done an FTP test Katie? If so, what did you get?

    • @KatieKookaburra
      @KatieKookaburra  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have - search my channel!! :)

    • @petyrkowalski9887
      @petyrkowalski9887 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cool. Will do. I did it with my club last week...OMG it was brutal!

  • @quenar
    @quenar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just bought stages gen 3, taking it for a spin :)

    • @antoniot.4303
      @antoniot.4303 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you happy with IT ? Have you any issue kapt ?

  • @secretagent86
    @secretagent86 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    no doubt a great tool, but fresh air, sunshine, and time in the saddle is good enough for me. lots of experience riding and never had a problem judging my efforts. when they get to mass market or standard features it will be excellent to have. Give me the expensive bike and wheel set first.... sorry to disagree, but to each their own.

    • @KatieKookaburra
      @KatieKookaburra  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Totally up to you but yeah I got as fit as I have with a power metre on an entry level road bike :)

  • @luismedeiros7139
    @luismedeiros7139 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a coincidence, today i bought my first Actual Smart trainer and my first power meter :P "4iiii left only power meter" and the "Tacx FLux" :P The 4iiii is cheaper and seems to have better reviews overall.

    • @KatieKookaburra
      @KatieKookaburra  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Whoaaaaa big day!!!! Wooooop woooop!!! Excited for you!!!!! :) let me know how you go with them. I really like the Flux. And would love to hear a review of the 4iiii :) is that how how write it??

    • @troycollett8540
      @troycollett8540 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      In Australia I have seen the 105 4iii for $500

  • @JiltedMonkey
    @JiltedMonkey 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    RE dropouts. Did you get anywhere with selecting the FE-C option in Zwift? See this image of a KICKR showing two ANT+ options to give you an idea of what I'm banging on about. s26.postimg.org/jpmjzrvs9/IMG_20170919_052436.jpg

    • @KatieKookaburra
      @KatieKookaburra  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I don’t think that option came up..... :(

  • @coldfyre51
    @coldfyre51 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Totally agree, Power meter is a must!

  • @baronerotto
    @baronerotto 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sempre più bella ! 😘

  • @indrekpiirisild695
    @indrekpiirisild695 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    "I'm obsessed with power!" :D
    Got gen2 as well. On Zwift it is much better over BT (over companion app) than ANT+ which I had dropouts as well.

    • @KatieKookaburra
      @KatieKookaburra  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just loveeeee power hahah. It is the Gen2 version and it's been amazing! Proper love it! :) Do you have one?

    • @indrekpiirisild695
      @indrekpiirisild695 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KatieKookaburra :). Yep, Dura Ace Stages gen2 one on my otherwise Ultegra group. I've only tried it once on Zwift. Can't wait to try it outside

  • @EKpredham
    @EKpredham 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You look great!

  • @scottrc31
    @scottrc31 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You looks gorgeous 😍

  • @Ricobass0
    @Ricobass0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pedant's note: a metre is a length. You've got a meter.

    • @KatieKookaburra
      @KatieKookaburra  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ahhh THANK YOU!!!!! This vid has been up years and no-one has mentioned that ha. You get the gold star my friend. Thanks :)

    • @Ricobass0
      @Ricobass0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're welcome. My wife's a retired English teacher - never got a gold star from her!!

    • @marcelrasing4801
      @marcelrasing4801 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ricobass0 would it not be: a golden start instead of a gold star? - I am Dutch - I can (and often will be) wrong

    • @Ricobass0
      @Ricobass0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marcelrasing4801 No it si a gold star that UK teachers used to give children for good work. It's probable Dojo points now.

  • @alexalpizar4096
    @alexalpizar4096 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi, you always make excellent videos.You are very beautiful.

    • @Eric_Tennant
      @Eric_Tennant 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Funny my brother hits on women online as well. Just busting your balls. Many say it on all her videos.

  • @MultiGjuro
    @MultiGjuro 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bravo....love for you

  • @bacazterchovej2235
    @bacazterchovej2235 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    meter vs metre

    • @pasttimeph
      @pasttimeph 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      metre is british meter is american. you got me curious too lol

    • @dancudds
      @dancudds 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Either way, metre is the french and British spelling of the distance. Meter for measuring device is spelt the same way in British:American

  • @thomastrinidad1970
    @thomastrinidad1970 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You look Gorgeous!

  • @Moreno_Cubanito
    @Moreno_Cubanito 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    it is a great tool

  • @bigmitch3612
    @bigmitch3612 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking lean!

  • @szczepankonieczny1666
    @szczepankonieczny1666 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Unfortunatelly, those kinds of power meters does not tell you why you have to push as many wats as you see, so that is why I've designed next generation power meter which will tell you why eg. 250W is needed to ride at any point at time ;) Another issue and why I'm not interested in Stages and other kind of those expensive "powermeters" is overestimating power when oval chainrings are used and I use custom made three oval (elipse) 62T/52T/42T chainrings, so not too much interested in one side power measurement but rather much cheapier "Proudly Made in... my Home" using 3D printing technology and custom electronics inside this thing ;) More about oval rings issue in Stages: "we conclude that there will be a 4-5% increase on the readings from a Stages Power meter when used with a non-round chain rings" source: support.stagescycling.com/en/support/solutions/articles/1000158537-can-i-use-the-stages-power-meter-with-oval-or-osymetric-chain-rings-

  • @TexasEmperor
    @TexasEmperor 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty! See you on the road of Man City.

  • @iam_mono1892
    @iam_mono1892 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Beautiful girl, 😍😍😍

  • @chapman7804
    @chapman7804 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Katie you are so beautiful xx

  • @bill_tin
    @bill_tin 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol

  •  6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi there thx for the injections last month i

    •  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is injustices.

    •  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why she left me did she find 'in' someone else? Who is it?

    •  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Theresa May promised me forever that we live a life as one.

  • @diegogarlop4299
    @diegogarlop4299 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, preciosa, hermosa, bonita, 😊😊😚