LIKE if you think all businesses should use electric vans and SHARE to tell others about electric vans In this episode Andy finds out how Solarsense have been using electric vans powered by solar to save on business costs and takes the new Vauxhall Vivaro-e out for a drive. The Vivaro-e will be available in 14 different models, including cargo vans and people carriers, demonstrating Vauxhall's commitment to the electric van market. As more and more electric vans come to market, suitable for all kinds of businesses, the transition to electric is sure to accelerate. Solarsense - www.solarsense-uk.com/ Vivaro e - www.vauxhall.co.uk/vans/new-v... Fully Charged is 100% independent thanks to TH-cam Memberships and Patreons. Without you this channel wouldn’t be possible! If you’d like to help support the Fully Charged channel and its mission: Become a Patreon: www.patreon.com/fullychargedshow Become a TH-cam member: use JOIN button above Subscribe to Fully Charged & the Fully Charged PLUS channels Buy the Fully Charged Guide to Electric Vehicles & Clean Energy : buff.ly/2GybGt0 Browse the Fully Charged store: shop.fullycharged.show/ Visit our LIVE exhibitions in the UK, USA & Europe: FullyCharged.Show/events Subscribe for episode alerts and the Fully Charged newsletter: fullycharged.show/zap-sign-up/ Visit: FullyCharged.Show Find us on Twitter: twitter.com/fullychargedshw Follow us on Instagram: instagram.com/fullychargedshow Timestamps: 0:00 Introduction 1:16 Makes Solarsense 1:38 Glastonbury 1:52 Solar slates 2:28 Kangoo deliveries 3:33 Vivaro-e 3:47 14 models! 4:51 Back of the van 5:06 Foot swing 5:21 Ticket to tow 5:51 Vital stats 6:46 Solar powered 7:45 Driving modes 9:13 Batteries vs Range 9:57 Rapid charging 10:35 28 hours later 11:35 Heads up wizardry 12:58 Money talks 13:33 Big investors 13:55 Front runner 14:07 Coming up 14:32 Subscribe, support, join
Dear Fully Charged, In 2021 where you guys are pushing for positivity, I thought I would love to extend it with some of mine. Overlooking the whole 2020 thing you guys have done some outstanding work to make it through, I have to say that there are two particular things I think you have executed extraordinarily. There are two series on your channel which I will describe as you have for this one a "Case Study". The first is "Maddie goes Electric" and second "Introduction to Electric Vans" by Andy. These are undoubtedly some of the best work you guys have produced to the EV community over and above the amazing work, you guys are known for. I can not wait to see how you will expand these case studies in the future be that more building infrastructure or ...( I don't know). Keep up the great work, and thank you for everything.
Vauxhall are going to sell a ton of Vivaro’s ! It’s 100kW fast charge capability is a massive advantage vs most of its competitors - especially your recently reviewed Merc eVito...
@@onepunch9 Hi One Punch - I am not convinced that is reality.... seems like a fleet management issue rather than an issue with EVs and their range. There will be many services that do less than 100 miles per day in most councils that could use an electric van. There will be a drop in range in winter but areas like Nottingham have shown that EVs work and work well
@@TomBray-LowCarbonLifestyle Give neath port talbot concil a bell they'll convince you. Its under 100 miles when fully charged that's with out taking the weather and pay load into consideration.
@@onepunch9 I still don't understand why you say they are parked up - if a vehicle did under 100 miles a day - say 90, it would be doing over 20,000 a year, doubt there are many vehicles in councils doing that big mileage. And if they are, they can charge when they are low.... Are they parked up due to covid? Or are they parked up out of work hours when you see them? Maybe they are parked and charging ready for when they are needed next? Looked at the 'DARE' report from Neath, it says they have 4 electric vehicles. Surely 4 vehicles could charge overnight and do some duties the next day?
@@TomBray-LowCarbonLifestyle No they are parked up because of the lack of range, they were used daily until the range depleted on them....Less than 100 miles will be greatly reduced in the winter and with any tools in the back, so it's probably more like 50 miles safely. Just because it says 90 miles when fully charged doesn't mean it will actually do 90 miles. Why would you or any business shell out 10k more for the equivalent ev van that will basically be usless or a little town vehicle at best in a yr makes no sense at all financially or practically.
Main problem I see is having a crew cab with 4 to 5 people getting paid waiting for recharge. A lot of site inductions at 8.30am so setting off earlier again tired is just dangerous.
As was mentioned on the last video, this is THE van that would make a perfect campervan. My current camper is based on the diesel 2010 LWB Vivaro, and I can't wait for 2nd hand version to start coming up for sale from the commercial fleets in a few years!
Beat me to it. I have a VW camper and I can see how one of these could take it’s place in a few years. This is the first one that makes it a practical proposition.
Has a builder ever considered maximum weight? No they just stuff it until the doors only just shut... or use a bit of string to hold the rear doors shut.
Really impressed with the Vivaro-E specs. Vauxhall have really stepped up, and surpassed the (somewhat limited) competition, and made a very practical van.
Overnight charging into a 7kW home charger, is absolutely the best way to charge. I've had a 22kWh Renault Zoe since 2014-10 and have only ever charged away from home, once. The new Vauxhall EV vans are killing it - wow - just wow! I wish them every success.
Great stuff, I will never own a van, but everyone on this show has convinced me I should at least have an idea of where the commercial side of it is going. I totally see why commercial/public EVs are where it will all go big.
I believe the previous (non electric) model was sold in the USA under the Ram brand. EDIT - Thinking about it, getting this version in the USA is even more likely now that Vauxhall's parent company (PSA) has merged with Fiat-Chrysler (FCA) to form "Stellantis".
This looks like a really serious option for many businesses as the range is very reasonable coupled with the ability to fast charge. I can see this having a serious impact, especially for those businesses who can harvest the sun. A taxi conversion may be an interesting option for those towns where a fully custom taxi build is not a requirement.
Interested in the mpv as a camper, not a full on conversation but something basic for weekends. Towing opinion is good to as few EVs have that. Got to say I'm liking Andy as a presenter more than I thought I would when he was introduced as the action guy. Maybe due to restrictions but he's proved he can do simple factual content and I like the way he is not bothered about the technical just that it dose what it needs to. I love my MG ZS EV but have no care other than it's a great car to drive and own. Keep up the good work and as a biker can't wait for more motorcycle tests.
Great stuff again Andy! I do like that HeadsUp display feature which reads road signs as it seems the average driver these days have lost this ability.
Thank you Andy....love seeing you doing reviews. Hope Robert allows you do to ones with the Rivian & Cybertrucks be it in UK or elsewhere and put in a motorbike or snowmobile that you can then go adventuring on along with the full range of capabilites of each.
Great series - the more utilitarian and value for money electric vehicles on the road every day, the sooner EVs will become the norm and silly range anxiety issues will fade away. Whoever heard of ICE vehicle tests where they regularly run the cars until they run out of fuel?
That 75kWh Vivaro-e could be the first really usable EV camper van. I think Nissan really need to put some bigger batteries on the ENV200 to at least keep up, or hopefully even do better.
The Vivaro e is a bit bigger right? So seems ideal. But still small enough to be a sole vehicle. To be fair I don't commute. I work from home, just need my laptop and decent Internet connection. So I guess I could go bigger van for full digital nomad van life - traveling and working for longer. But I imagine using a big van as a sole vehicle would be a pain. I do try to cycle or skate whenever I can to get around town But yeah, the Vivaro e is still small enough to be a sole vehicle I think Would be great for day trips too, or heading to the beach for the weekend and staying overnight for surfing etc. I think it's be great to convert it with a rock n roll bed and pop top, as others have done with the env200.
Aye don't really understand how the leaf can get a 62kwh battery but the env200 is stuck at 40kwh. Tem0ted to get one and then get the Muxan UBEX fitted but its a lot of money and a bit of risk getting an aftermarket part fittted. The Vauxhall is more tempting at present with greater size and range, but if the ENV200 could get close to the range of the 75kwh I would switch in a heart beat for cost savings and in the hope of V2H charging takes off being as CHADEMO already supports it.
@@shoestringsev4529 Unfortunately price is the issue, my current diesel van cost me £4500, I appreciate the cost of road tax, fuel and servicing, but as an ongoing cost it's affordable.
Ev vans currently make alot more sense as a fleet vehicle, to reduce servicing and fuel card costs, rather than private buyers. Good news is there will be lots of good used options for you in 3-4 years
As someone who drives a van and has just had to buy a new one for my business this video is missing so much about owning a van. All the vans shown except the e-Vivaro are old, some very old! Most vans are not parked up at night in a depot or driveway but on the street so home charging is not an option. By far the biggest problem with electric van take up is the very few fast/rapid chargers available and the cost of using these.
Very true! We need a massive revolution in charging infrastructure for evs to become mainstream. My business has 2 diesels, an electric env200 and a hybrid 4-work outlander. Now considering this vivaro-e as the range is so much bigger than the env200. But I'm out in the sticks, so no problems with running electric cables across the pavement to my van to charge! The other issue I've encountered when I've needed to charge a van out on the road is that the public chargers are not well maintained, so frequently broken down! So we need the govt to pull its finger out and fix the infrastructure issues before banning people from driving their diesel vans through parts of the cities.
So close to being decent replacement for our ICE vans, just a little lacking on the range for our engineers. Around another 50 mile range fully laden would be ideal. Called Vauxhall about these when they were announced and they reckon we'd only get 60 miles out of them so not quite good enough for a small company that covers a wide area. Ideal for large city based companies like British Gas/ BT etc though.
People who do van conversions for "van life" will benefit from these coming into to market as well as those early models that will come onto the used market. Vans are the life blood of small trades and limited mile transportation. This was sorely needed so I am glad to see this sector growing in the EV space.
I'm curious what manufactures / models of vans are being displaced by EV vans, versus what EV vans are being used in entirely new positions. I think with EV cars there are a lot of people who are owning an EV as a first time vehicle owner rather than replacing some existing combustion vehicle. The statistics become rather different in terms of environmental impact with EV vans, I think, when compared to private EVs. Furthermore because they're often driven more. Imagine if something as simple as postal delivery vehicles were changed to EV.
Hello, Good reporting and address of the target market. Shame it is not UK built, despite pressure from UK electric fleets coalition and others last year. The UK, post brexit needing RHD cars, will have to ramp up domestic production of EV's. Don't rely on Nissan investing much, 80 million is nice but won't last forever. Cordialement,
“Bigger range is not always better!” 🤷🏻 I do 1300+ miles every week. 200 Monday, 300 Max Tuesday-Friday in a L3 H3 Nissan NV400. The equivalent Renault does 60 for £70,000. 🧐
To be more relevant to the US audience, you'll have to cover the large electric vans, like a Sprinter. The dominant van is the Ford Transit. We only really have a transit connect as a small van here and that's it. Medium sized Van's dont exist here really. Instead we use panel MPVs (US minivan)
I somehow doubt these eco modes. EVs do not waste energy in the same way combustion engines do because of overfueling. I feel that an electric motor should keep its efficiency fairly consistently across the speed range, therefore acceleration doesn't matter, you just end up with a slightly lower average speed if you accelerate slower. I think that reduced power is the same as reduced speed. What we need is an energy/mile comparison where, somehow both tests have the same average speed but one is done in high power and the other in eco mode. So in high power you get to a lower speed faster, and in low power mode you have to travel slightly faster to make up for the slow acceleration.
Has anybody noticed that solarsense van has only done 14,000 miles and has been off the road since 2016? No wonder it's not broken down, it's not been used!!
Running costs down from $2,500 GBP to $200 GBP a year Gas vehicles suck so bad now compared to EVs Saving over $16,100 pounds in seven years of running costs!
Indeed! Did you see the film "Who killed the electric car?" from quite a few years back? Very illuminating. The vehicle manufacturers have known how to do this for ages, but realised they'd lose a lot in replacing wear and tear items so chose to 'kill' it. It's only legislation that's driving it forward again now!
Perfect van but still not cheap. It’s keen, but £27k (plus vat) is still not accessible for the small to medium business users, especially in the current Covid climate! But it’s looking good for everything else moving forward. But can anyone explain to me how the big fuel ⛽️ producers will hit back at us? They’re not gonna like it!
Big fuel will hit back the same way Kodak did when we all went digital, oh wait a minute, they went bust. A couple more years, once tech gets better and volume increases, prices will drop.
Gotta watch the prices of spare parts for the e-versions of vans too ... I had to replace my handbrake cables in my nissan env200 this year ... they were over £150 EACH plus fitting!!! By comparison I could've bought Japanparts diesel versions for around £20 each. Unfortunately they don't do the electric versions. Total rip off though!!
I don't know about this van, but other EVs can lock the cable while charging. Also you often get an app that can send you a notification when charging is completed.
All type 2 charge points (that all vans now use) lock at both ends when charging. You can only unlock them with the key. I also asked (because so many people wanted to know) what would happen if you cut the very thick, reinforced wire with big bolt cutters when the car/van was charging. Sadly the moron who might try this probably wouldn't die because the electronics cut the power instantly there's a fault. The same applies if you smash the charger socket or the van socket with a massive hammer in a frenzied, pro fossil fuel hate attack. :-)
I've been critical of these van as being low range. And today I was with you with this Vauxhall all the way to 10:20. Stop after a few hours? No. Couple yes. The goal of any new tech is to meet or exceed the previous. Real adoption won't happen if that isn't true. Yes it's nice to stop every 2 hours. At work, um no. You've a 3 hour drive and you have to stop to charge at least twice while on the clock? I don't see our capitalism cost cutting employers ok'ing that. I want EV's for so many reasons but they are just not work compelling enough as of yet. Interview someone not selling solar panels using vans. Find a plumber or electrician using one. That would be more interesting.
When will you learn at Fully Charged that European plugs are not two pin. They may only have two pins to plug into the socket but as you put the plug into the socket there are two contacts on the side of the plug that are the earth, so are actually three pin.
AT LAST....A man with a similar sense of humour to my own. If we ever meet in a pub I will tell you my " Mysterious Cod Joke".....Nobody understands it but it goes on so long you never need to go to the bar!
@@jur4x Depends on what you mean by better. I don't enjoy the idea of spending 70-100k USD on any vehicle. Going into massive debt doesn't sound better to me. If it was available here, I'd rather buy one of those Nissan e-nv200 vans second-hand. I'll bet those are a great deal, and highly useful. So what if they don't do 0-60 in 3 seconds, and don't have 14 cameras underneath. I don't go into debt to show off to other people.
A bit lame episode. You should really extensively t e s t how the rapid charging is working , e.g. how long it can hold 100KWH speed , how it behaves when battery is cold / hot. Rapid charging is one of the key feature in delivery vans.
I just don’t get why vehicle designers still have a passion for a front gill... evs don’t Need these... I think it would’ve looked far more futuristic with just some smooth Plastiks, like the Mercedes EQ concerts...
if every Brit talks his/hers own dialect you gonna miss a big part of the world. Ii'm from Nederland and we Dutch are known to speak reasonable English, some better than others we are thought only one kind of English; the English we hear on the radio, i think you call it the Queens English that's the kind of English you all have learned in school same like us. It would be nice and better understandable for billions of people around the world if you did
Accent has a lot to do with identity. I appreciate it is difficult for international viewers. However, telling a Scot to drop his accent might be considered rude. Enjoy the difference!
When are these companies STOP making car's for city driver's. I live up in Leeds we have 4 vans at work that go to London every day into the city. These are USLESS but they want us to go electric. Elon Musk must be pissing him self looking at the competition
@@djp3637 TBH 200-300 miles So I know I will get to all my jobs on any single day, my longest single journey for my job means I have 383 miles to drive one way ( I do health and safety inspections and servicing of fume extraction) I need a transit sized van that can fit 3m lengths stacked up about 1.5m ish single items 1.6m tall, 1200kg of load capacity. I've not seen anything yet that can meet those requirements and be OTR for the same sort of money as a Citroen relay or Ford transit. Last year I drove 36000 miles in the UK so google tells me. I would love my next van to be fully electric they just don't match my requirements (yet).
@@AcidEric01 I do have a car that does 250-300 miles so may not be as long as you think BUT do you really drive 300 miles with NO stops? Or should you?
@@clivetimbrell I rarely do 300miles in one go. But if my employer requires me to for example travel from Doncaster to Reading then on to Taunton ready for a morning appointment the next day 90 or even 150 mile range doesn't cut it. If I have a 400m mile day as I occasionally do I have time to take a break to charge up. Also remember we are on the same side here I'm not here because I'm a petrol head I'm here because I'm an electric vehicle advocate looking for a van that I can suggest to my employer. I can't change what my job that is essentially and I enjoy. But I can influence the choice of next van.
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In this episode Andy finds out how Solarsense have been using electric vans powered by solar to save on business costs and takes the new Vauxhall Vivaro-e out for a drive.
The Vivaro-e will be available in 14 different models, including cargo vans and people carriers, demonstrating Vauxhall's commitment to the electric van market. As more and more electric vans come to market, suitable for all kinds of businesses, the transition to electric is sure to accelerate.
Solarsense - www.solarsense-uk.com/
Vivaro e - www.vauxhall.co.uk/vans/new-v...
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Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
1:16 Makes Solarsense
1:38 Glastonbury
1:52 Solar slates
2:28 Kangoo deliveries
3:33 Vivaro-e
3:47 14 models!
4:51 Back of the van
5:06 Foot swing
5:21 Ticket to tow
5:51 Vital stats
6:46 Solar powered
7:45 Driving modes
9:13 Batteries vs Range
9:57 Rapid charging
10:35 28 hours later
11:35 Heads up wizardry
12:58 Money talks
13:33 Big investors
13:55 Front runner
14:07 Coming up
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1)can you make a video
2) on aluminium air battery vs lithium battery
Always sharing. We will get there
decent spec, decent range, decent load, decent price, can tow and has CCS, they will sell loads and loads
This comment didnt age well 🤦♂️
I don't need or want a van but this is a great series.
Dear Fully Charged,
In 2021 where you guys are pushing for positivity, I thought I would love to extend it with some of mine. Overlooking the whole 2020 thing you guys have done some outstanding work to make it through, I have to say that there are two particular things I think you have executed extraordinarily. There are two series on your channel which I will describe as you have for this one a "Case Study". The first is "Maddie goes Electric" and second "Introduction to Electric Vans" by Andy. These are undoubtedly some of the best work you guys have produced to the EV community over and above the amazing work, you guys are known for. I can not wait to see how you will expand these case studies in the future be that more building infrastructure or ...( I don't know).
Keep up the great work, and thank you for everything.
Thanks Stefan, we have a couple more topics that we intend to give this type of treatment to in 2021. Thanks for watching!
@@fullychargedshow looking forward to it.
Agreed 👍🏻
I don't need a van, but I fantasize about having a business just so that I could justify buying one Vivaro-E...
Very good series and very timely. Our company Transit Diesel could do with being replaced with an electric!
Even more urgent now as many recent Transits are sadly experiencing numerous engine issues.
Vauxhall are going to sell a ton of Vivaro’s !
It’s 100kW fast charge capability is a massive advantage vs most of its competitors - especially your recently reviewed Merc eVito...
Theyre not selling any as in the real world theyre next to useless
@@pauldavies7251 Interesting to hear - but in fairness my comment was THREE YEARS ago… 😂
With this there are so few reasons why a local authority, business (small, medium or massive), or anyone else would need to buy a fossil fuel van ....
@@onepunch9 Hi One Punch - I am not convinced that is reality.... seems like a fleet management issue rather than an issue with EVs and their range. There will be many services that do less than 100 miles per day in most councils that could use an electric van.
There will be a drop in range in winter but areas like Nottingham have shown that EVs work and work well
@@TomBray-LowCarbonLifestyle Give neath port talbot concil a bell they'll convince you. Its under 100 miles when fully charged that's with out taking the weather and pay load into consideration.
@@onepunch9 I still don't understand why you say they are parked up - if a vehicle did under 100 miles a day - say 90, it would be doing over 20,000 a year, doubt there are many vehicles in councils doing that big mileage. And if they are, they can charge when they are low....
Are they parked up due to covid? Or are they parked up out of work hours when you see them? Maybe they are parked and charging ready for when they are needed next?
Looked at the 'DARE' report from Neath, it says they have 4 electric vehicles. Surely 4 vehicles could charge overnight and do some duties the next day?
@@TomBray-LowCarbonLifestyle No they are parked up because of the lack of range, they were used daily until the range depleted on them....Less than 100 miles will be greatly reduced in the winter and with any tools in the back, so it's probably more like 50 miles safely. Just because it says 90 miles when fully charged doesn't mean it will actually do 90 miles.
Why would you or any business shell out 10k more for the equivalent ev van that will basically be usless or a little town vehicle at best in a yr makes no sense at all financially or practically.
Main problem I see is having a crew cab with 4 to 5 people getting paid waiting for recharge. A lot of site inductions at 8.30am so setting off earlier again tired is just dangerous.
As was mentioned on the last video, this is THE van that would make a perfect campervan. My current camper is based on the diesel 2010 LWB Vivaro, and I can't wait for 2nd hand version to start coming up for sale from the commercial fleets in a few years!
I am with you, I wonder what the 3 year depreciation will be.
Beat me to it. I have a VW camper and I can see how one of these could take it’s place in a few years. This is the first one that makes it a practical proposition.
@@bathfun very little I expect.
Has a builder ever considered maximum weight? No they just stuff it until the doors only just shut... or use a bit of string to hold the rear doors shut.
@@williamarmstrong7199 that is a shame, I was hoping for a massive drop in price due to depreciation, then I could swoop in for a bargain.
Brilliant informative series on vans available on the market today.
Really impressed with the Vivaro-E specs. Vauxhall have really stepped up, and surpassed the (somewhat limited) competition, and made a very practical van.
Yes it puts MB's effort to shame.
Overnight charging into a 7kW home charger, is absolutely the best way to charge. I've had a 22kWh Renault Zoe since 2014-10 and have only ever charged away from home, once. The new Vauxhall EV vans are killing it - wow - just wow! I wish them every success.
Yet 3 years later & nobody is buying them
Funny that
Great stuff, I will never own a van, but everyone on this show has convinced me I should at least have an idea of where the commercial side of it is going.
I totally see why commercial/public EVs are where it will all go big.
Great van, great video, enjoyed watching this series.
I hope these come to the states! I love them!!!
I believe the previous (non electric) model was sold in the USA under the Ram brand.
EDIT - Thinking about it, getting this version in the USA is even more likely now that Vauxhall's parent company (PSA) has merged with Fiat-Chrysler (FCA) to form "Stellantis".
@@WonkoTheSaneUK Yes, but Vauxhall's previous parent company was also American, General Motors.
This looks like a really serious option for many businesses as the range is very reasonable coupled with the ability to fast charge. I can see this having a serious impact, especially for those businesses who can harvest the sun. A taxi conversion may be an interesting option for those towns where a fully custom taxi build is not a requirement.
I need a long range electric van to convert into a camper.
Will be wanting new camper in couple of years so fingers crossed.
Love one on my Post Office round, we drive the similar looking Peugeots.
is it the electric Peugeot you have? if so, how do you like it?
@@briandowling8372 nope diesel but electric would be great.
@@Thegeordiemonkey ah thats a pity, hopefully they'll get you an electric one! fingers crossed
Interested in the mpv as a camper, not a full on conversation but something basic for weekends. Towing opinion is good to as few EVs have that. Got to say I'm liking Andy as a presenter more than I thought I would when he was introduced as the action guy. Maybe due to restrictions but he's proved he can do simple factual content and I like the way he is not bothered about the technical just that it dose what it needs to. I love my MG ZS EV but have no care other than it's a great car to drive and own. Keep up the good work and as a biker can't wait for more motorcycle tests.
I'm enjoying this vaaaaan series.
Great stuff again Andy! I do like that HeadsUp display feature which reads road signs as it seems the average driver these days have lost this ability.
Take a look at the fiat ducato. Most of the time not available in Australia but we wait patiently. Keep smiling
Had to turn on closed captions
Thank you Andy....love seeing you doing reviews. Hope Robert allows you do to ones with the Rivian & Cybertrucks be it in UK or elsewhere and put in a motorbike or snowmobile that you can then go adventuring on along with the full range of capabilites of each.
The van series has been good.
Great series - the more utilitarian and value for money electric vehicles on the road every day, the sooner EVs will become the norm and silly range anxiety issues will fade away. Whoever heard of ICE vehicle tests where they regularly run the cars until they run out of fuel?
That 75kWh Vivaro-e could be the first really usable EV camper van. I think Nissan really need to put some bigger batteries on the ENV200 to at least keep up, or hopefully even do better.
Give it liquid cooled batteries and ccs as well.
The Vivaro e is a bit bigger right? So seems ideal. But still small enough to be a sole vehicle.
To be fair I don't commute. I work from home, just need my laptop and decent Internet connection. So I guess I could go bigger van for full digital nomad van life - traveling and working for longer.
But I imagine using a big van as a sole vehicle would be a pain.
I do try to cycle or skate whenever I can to get around town
But yeah, the Vivaro e is still small enough to be a sole vehicle I think
Would be great for day trips too, or heading to the beach for the weekend and staying overnight for surfing etc.
I think it's be great to convert it with a rock n roll bed and pop top, as others have done with the env200.
Aye don't really understand how the leaf can get a 62kwh battery but the env200 is stuck at 40kwh. Tem0ted to get one and then get the Muxan UBEX fitted but its a lot of money and a bit of risk getting an aftermarket part fittted.
The Vauxhall is more tempting at present with greater size and range, but if the ENV200 could get close to the range of the 75kwh I would switch in a heart beat for cost savings and in the hope of V2H charging takes off being as CHADEMO already supports it.
Watching this on my phone with tiny speaker and at 8:20 I could have sworn he said 181 miles an hour.... wow Vauxhall good job...
Another great video. Thank you.
Brilliant reviews for vans
The range I could deal with, it's the towing capacity, often find myself towing 2 tons be that soil/ logs / stones. Maybe in another 5 years?
MAXSUS EDELIVER 9 ev with dumper back might suit your needs.
@@shoestringsev4529 Unfortunately price is the issue, my current diesel van cost me £4500, I appreciate the cost of road tax, fuel and servicing, but as an ongoing cost it's affordable.
Ev vans currently make alot more sense as a fleet vehicle, to reduce servicing and fuel card costs, rather than private buyers. Good news is there will be lots of good used options for you in 3-4 years
My toggle won’t engage into gear after I turn the ignition on??
As someone who drives a van and has just had to buy a new one for my business this video is missing so much about owning a van. All the vans shown except the e-Vivaro are old, some very old!
Most vans are not parked up at night in a depot or driveway but on the street so home charging is not an option.
By far the biggest problem with electric van take up is the very few fast/rapid chargers available and the cost of using these.
Very true! We need a massive revolution in charging infrastructure for evs to become mainstream. My business has 2 diesels, an electric env200 and a hybrid 4-work outlander. Now considering this vivaro-e as the range is so much bigger than the env200. But I'm out in the sticks, so no problems with running electric cables across the pavement to my van to charge! The other issue I've encountered when I've needed to charge a van out on the road is that the public chargers are not well maintained, so frequently broken down! So we need the govt to pull its finger out and fix the infrastructure issues before banning people from driving their diesel vans through parts of the cities.
What kind of heat system does it have? How many miles per kWh does it do on the motorway and round town?
HUD - Underrated, yet extremely practical
(TH-cam is deleting my comments REPEATEDLY. Censorship at work...)
If the Tesla Model 3 and Model Y had a HUD, they would be a so much better car
Do you know if electric vans are harder to do wheelchair conversions for?
Yes I want an vivaro e
Until you can buy a Rival it looks like we’ve seen one the first candidate for an EC Campervan
good one ..thanks
Will they be available in the US?
So close to being decent replacement for our ICE vans, just a little lacking on the range for our engineers. Around another 50 mile range fully laden would be ideal. Called Vauxhall about these when they were announced and they reckon we'd only get 60 miles out of them so not quite good enough for a small company that covers a wide area. Ideal for large city based companies like British Gas/ BT etc though.
People who do van conversions for "van life" will benefit from these coming into to market as well as those early models that will come onto the used market. Vans are the life blood of small trades and limited mile transportation. This was sorely needed so I am glad to see this sector growing in the EV space.
I live in my campervan full time. I could never afford an electric one or want one!
Overall looks like a decent package
Maybe already asked here, and probably a bit early: Will startup 'Canoo' be covered in these episodes?
what the music for this series? Liking that riff :)
It's called "Wake Up Stronger" by Emery and Noble. Glad you liked it!
Much better that’s the van for me.
I'm curious what manufactures / models of vans are being displaced by EV vans, versus what EV vans are being used in entirely new positions. I think with EV cars there are a lot of people who are owning an EV as a first time vehicle owner rather than replacing some existing combustion vehicle. The statistics become rather different in terms of environmental impact with EV vans, I think, when compared to private EVs. Furthermore because they're often driven more.
Imagine if something as simple as postal delivery vehicles were changed to EV.
Can they been bought in Japan ?
I'd love a moho version of this van
Vantastic!
Hello,
Good reporting and address of the target market.
Shame it is not UK built, despite pressure from UK electric fleets coalition and others last year.
The UK, post brexit needing RHD cars, will have to ramp up domestic production of EV's. Don't rely on Nissan
investing much, 80 million is nice but won't last forever.
Cordialement,
Are all your roads over there one way?? The roads don't seem wide enough for 2 cars to pass each other??
Very rural area somtimes have single track roads with passing places.
will they also be selling these as either peugeot or citroen vans?
Yes, and Opel
More vans please Citroen e dispatch versus Toyota
“Bigger range is not always better!” 🤷🏻 I do 1300+ miles every week. 200 Monday, 300 Max Tuesday-Friday in a L3 H3 Nissan NV400. The equivalent Renault does 60 for £70,000. 🧐
... means, you drive more than you really work? :-D
To be more relevant to the US audience, you'll have to cover the large electric vans, like a Sprinter. The dominant van is the Ford Transit. We only really have a transit connect as a small van here and that's it. Medium sized Van's dont exist here really. Instead we use panel MPVs (US minivan)
Oh nice van. Could do with a tailgate though 🤔
What’s the name of the tune from the start and end of the video?
It's called "Wake Up Stronger" by Emery and Noble. Thanks for watching.
What's with all the clicking? Was someone clicking a pen during the editing or something?
Need to import these vans to Australia , don't have to change the steering wheel .
is Vauxhall stil GM or Opel in Europe?
No, Vauxhall and Opel are owned by Peugeot.
They are part of Groupe PSA (which includes Peugeot and Citroen) and more recently have merged with Fiat Chrysler, to become Stellantis.
@@stephenholland5930 dank je, zo slecht als vloeken dus
I somehow doubt these eco modes. EVs do not waste energy in the same way combustion engines do because of overfueling. I feel that an electric motor should keep its efficiency fairly consistently across the speed range, therefore acceleration doesn't matter, you just end up with a slightly lower average speed if you accelerate slower. I think that reduced power is the same as reduced speed. What we need is an energy/mile comparison where, somehow both tests have the same average speed but one is done in high power and the other in eco mode. So in high power you get to a lower speed faster, and in low power mode you have to travel slightly faster to make up for the slow acceleration.
Has anybody noticed that solarsense van has only done 14,000 miles and has been off the road since 2016?
No wonder it's not broken down, it's not been used!!
Running costs down from $2,500 GBP to $200 GBP a year
Gas vehicles suck so bad now compared to EVs
Saving over $16,100 pounds in seven years of running costs!
And thats just one vehicle
Just goes to show that given a kick up the arse van manufacturers can produce whats needed.
Indeed! Did you see the film "Who killed the electric car?" from quite a few years back? Very illuminating. The vehicle manufacturers have known how to do this for ages, but realised they'd lose a lot in replacing wear and tear items so chose to 'kill' it. It's only legislation that's driving it forward again now!
Not enough range by a massive amount for the building trade sorry folks not there yet
I want to thank the interviewee for repeating the word ''church' so I knew what was meant by 'charch' 😅
Surely a bit of a stretch calling the Zoe a van?
Elo!
I Love, Intro Soundtrack.
men in ven.... wooo hooooooooooooo
Perfect van but still not cheap. It’s keen, but £27k (plus vat) is still not accessible for the small to medium business users, especially in the current Covid climate! But it’s looking good for everything else moving forward. But can anyone explain to me how the big fuel ⛽️ producers will hit back at us? They’re not gonna like it!
Big fuel will hit back the same way Kodak did when we all went digital, oh wait a minute, they went bust. A couple more years, once tech gets better and volume increases, prices will drop.
@@barriedear5990 I still have my Polaroid, and you can still buy film! 😁
Still cheaper than an ICE vehicle.
@@barriedear5990 they will buy all the charging networks like BP and Shell then delay rollout as long as possible.
Gotta watch the prices of spare parts for the e-versions of vans too ... I had to replace my handbrake cables in my nissan env200 this year ... they were over £150 EACH plus fitting!!! By comparison I could've bought Japanparts diesel versions for around £20 each. Unfortunately they don't do the electric versions. Total rip off though!!
Will the Vauxhaul Vivaro be available in the EU or just the UK ?
Will no doubt be badged as an Opel.
@@barriedear5990 And since Opel/Vauxhall now belongs to PSA (since 2017), it's also going to be available as Peugeot e-Expert.
What if so that unplugs it
Some twat*
I don't know about this van, but other EVs can lock the cable while charging. Also you often get an app that can send you a notification when charging is completed.
All type 2 charge points (that all vans now use) lock at both ends when charging. You can only unlock them with the key. I also asked (because so many people wanted to know) what would happen if you cut the very thick, reinforced wire with big bolt cutters when the car/van was charging. Sadly the moron who might try this probably wouldn't die because the electronics cut the power instantly there's a fault. The same applies if you smash the charger socket or the van socket with a massive hammer in a frenzied, pro fossil fuel hate attack. :-)
I've been critical of these van as being low range. And today I was with you with this Vauxhall all the way to 10:20. Stop after a few hours? No. Couple yes. The goal of any new tech is to meet or exceed the previous. Real adoption won't happen if that isn't true. Yes it's nice to stop every 2 hours. At work, um no. You've a 3 hour drive and you have to stop to charge at least twice while on the clock? I don't see our capitalism cost cutting employers ok'ing that. I want EV's for so many reasons but they are just not work compelling enough as of yet. Interview someone not selling solar panels using vans. Find a plumber or electrician using one. That would be more interesting.
The range of the van is 200 miles, how could you possibly need to charge twice in a 3 hour journey? How fast are you driving?
Flatbed, Bath and beyond. 7:15
A shame that Ford don't do a Transit based on the Mach-E now that would be an EV van worth having, far superior to the Vivaro.
When will you learn at Fully Charged that European plugs are not two pin. They may only have two pins to plug into the socket but as you put the plug into the socket there are two contacts on the side of the plug that are the earth, so are actually three pin.
Yes, but they're just not British - so we'll probably never learn...........!
Electric Vans ? Don't you get a shock when you go running ? :P :P
AT LAST....A man with a similar sense of humour to my own. If we ever meet in a pub I will tell you my " Mysterious Cod Joke".....Nobody understands it but it goes on so long you never need to go to the bar!
... bruv
@@Cardifftoyboy1 Q : What do you call a roman governer who does Yoga ? 😅
A : Pontius Pilates 😅
That comment was Off The Wall
And none of them are available for the US market.
But you will get all the pick-up trucks that are currently in development! Aren't they better?
@@jur4x Depends on what you mean by better. I don't enjoy the idea of spending 70-100k USD on any vehicle. Going into massive debt doesn't sound better to me. If it was available here, I'd rather buy one of those Nissan e-nv200 vans second-hand. I'll bet those are a great deal, and highly useful. So what if they don't do 0-60 in 3 seconds, and don't have 14 cameras underneath. I don't go into debt to show off to other people.
Haha cybertruck go 500 miles brrrr
A bit lame episode. You should really extensively t e s t how the rapid charging is working , e.g. how long it can hold 100KWH speed , how it behaves when battery is cold / hot. Rapid charging is one of the key feature in delivery vans.
Come on Ford where the heck is the Custom-EV?
They preferred the range extended version with a tiny battery
@@hoedjeexplains3661 Just a stop-gap hybrid. . .
Why do so many people, even including those with a military background, say "heads up" display? It's a "head up" display.
What language does he speak ? 😉
Oh come on!! - not this blatant regionalism again?!! It's just not big or clever - and, I'll bet YOU have a funny accent .....!
Scottish
Sounds like a Torry man to me like min....
Yoooo
Covert-19 - brilliant CC hickie
emblty
at no point in this did he mention how much they want for charging your ev, its around 44p a kw, so do the math's on a 75 kw
I just don’t get why vehicle designers still have a passion for a front gill... evs don’t Need these...
I think it would’ve looked far more futuristic with just some smooth Plastiks, like the Mercedes EQ concerts...
if every Brit talks his/hers own dialect you gonna miss a big part of the world. Ii'm from Nederland and we Dutch are known to speak reasonable English, some better than others we are thought only one kind of English; the English we hear on the radio, i think you call it the Queens English that's the kind of English you all have learned in school same like us. It would be nice and better understandable for billions of people around the world if you did
Accent has a lot to do with identity.
I appreciate it is difficult for international viewers. However, telling a Scot to drop his accent might be considered rude.
Enjoy the difference!
When are these companies STOP making car's for city driver's. I live up in Leeds we have 4 vans at work that go to London every day into the city. These are USLESS but they want us to go electric.
Elon Musk must be pissing him self looking at the competition
@@djp3637 TBH 200-300 miles So I know I will get to all my jobs on any single day, my longest single journey for my job means I have 383 miles to drive one way ( I do health and safety inspections and servicing of fume extraction) I need a transit sized van that can fit 3m lengths stacked up about 1.5m ish single items 1.6m tall, 1200kg of load capacity.
I've not seen anything yet that can meet those requirements and be OTR for the same sort of money as a Citroen relay or Ford transit.
Last year I drove 36000 miles in the UK so google tells me. I would love my next van to be fully electric they just don't match my requirements (yet).
@@AcidEric01 I do have a car that does 250-300 miles so may not be as long as you think BUT do you really drive 300 miles with NO stops? Or should you?
@@clivetimbrell I rarely do 300miles in one go. But if my employer requires me to for example travel from Doncaster to Reading then on to Taunton ready for a morning appointment the next day 90 or even 150 mile range doesn't cut it. If I have a 400m mile day as I occasionally do I have time to take a break to charge up. Also remember we are on the same side here I'm not here because I'm a petrol head I'm here because I'm an electric vehicle advocate looking for a van that I can suggest to my employer. I can't change what my job that is essentially and I enjoy. But I can influence the choice of next van.
BRING BACK JOHNNY