How to get on your feet and steer the board | WING FOIL
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- How to get on your feet, start moving and direct the board. This is one of the very first challenges you are facing as a beginner wing foiler. Today we bring you on the water as part of our "onboard instructional video series " so you can take your wing foiling to the next level!
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Love the combo of instructors, Kelly its great to see your progression and you have some great insights which makes it feel accessible.
Amen we are privileged to have Kelly help!
You guys are so nice! Thanks for always being so reassuring and positive, love your videos. Am struggling big time as a newbie winger, glad to hear I'm not the only one :D
Keep your head up! Enjoy the process you will get it..... We all have been there!
Great information. I'm more or less proficient on my 99L board and moving to a smaller 72L. Could you please comment on the Foot Hook you both have? Does it help waterstarts? Pumping?
My board is so wide I can’t straddle it, I think this is quite common with beginning equipment, yet no one seems to account for this.
Thank you, great video! What is your weight? How many liters is the board?
I hadn't seen the tripod technique, leveraging one arm to push the trailing edge of the wing down for stability. Looking forward to trying it!
It works for sure...
Good job guys, Now you need the way old guys do it. At age 67 I cannot do many things like you do it.
DW you rock, I am ready for a lesson from you anyway! :)
Wish I saw this when starting out. I struggled through this stage and developed my own style, but very similar to Kelly's tips. I always angle me stance on my knees, then pump the wing and get up on my front foot first. Very interesting to hear other ideas.
Thank you Rick! Have a great rest of the week!
By the way, where are they filming from?
So helpful. Thank you for doing these videos. I do like seeing the perspective from different people who have a different approach. Sometimes one method is easier than others, good to know you have options.
Glad we could help!
As someone coming into wing foil from sailing I kept thinking that position of the sail ( wing ) would have the most impact on which direction I’m going .
Am I understanding right that the steering is actually done using me feet’s pressure ?
It’s both, position of the sail and your position on the board
Great vid! Is it possible to taxi upwind while sitting on the board with both your legs in the water? In the video you seem to just stand still.
With both legs in the water you can get the idea of the wing but likely will go downwind as you have so much in the water. Still can get an idea of the basics though. On your knees you can for sure go upwind.
I have been using my friends equipment. He owns 'Radical sports Tobago.
He lets recomended i use a 5m wing with a 123L 'Magic carpet' multipurpose board fitted with a Tacoma foil.
I can see why the sport has taken off so rapidly.
ITS SO MUCH 😁FUN
i have done all the steps still the board not taking the left from the water and i am using a high volume north board with 9 meter Airush wing.
It will come friend takes time. A 9m wing your winds must be very light. It is always harder to learn in winds lighter than 17mph. FYI.... You will get it...
This really helps and thank you. I will watch and re-watch to hopefully get this locked in my brain. I'm coming from 32 years of wind sports with the last 10 years in kitefoiling tiny "pocket boards". This is a big challenge for me as it's been since 2003 was the last time I essentially dropped windsurfing, purchased and entirely new fleet of gear. Starting with large foil, large wing, floaty board. I weigh 70kg
To sit on a Board in order to start may be impossible with big boards.
You can just kneel on it.
Nice
Thanks for all the videos. Please continue to give visibility to Harry. It’s seeing him that wake me up at 56 from a lazy life ;-)
Amen you got it.
Yeah Harry rocks! I wish I could rip like him!
I’m also 56 and just bought all my gear. Awesome for this ole dawg to learn new tricks. Been out three times look forward to many more. Get errr done…
@@svbluehighway Yea buddy! Love it.... Have a great weekend!
what size of board you are using in this video?
Cabrinha Code 5'4” x 27” x 4.7” x 98L
What kind of insert is that on the front of the board (footstrap) ?
adventuresportsusa.com/products/cobra-half-hook. If you use our Damo5 code you can get 5% off.
GREAAT!
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You guys are awesome. I got my first board/wing 3 years ago but in northern Indiana on lakes surrounded by woods there just isn't much wind unless it's March or Nov and 30 degrees and sleeting. Highest summer speed hit is about 12mph per summer. And that might be once or twice.
One of the most depressing days of my life was the day I got a wind meter and learned just how slowly the wind can be moving and still have flags flying erect in the wind. (sub 10mph)
What we always used to judge a really windy day. LOL
There was very little information/how to out there and I just crashed. The wing (1st gen Slingwing) was too heavy (rotator cuff issues) and my balance not that great to stand there for long with not enough wind. Frustrated, I bought a Lift Efoil and have enjoyed immensely learning to foil the past 2 summers (short season). Now I'm ready to take it to the wing! Understanding that what is barely moving on the water could be moving decently on the foil I am really stoked for this coming summer. I'll start on our Red Paddle Co windsurf inflatable sup with center daggerboad (only went downwind before!) and 6m wing vs the 4.5 I was on before. I've got a big wing for my foil (I'm 225lb) and once I get the hang of sailing I'm going to buy one of the larger inflatable foil boards (fantatic sky air premium or starboard air foil) for the stability to learn on before (hopefully) getting a smaller hard board when I can stay on the foil most of the time.
There is suddenly (just this year) a lot more specific technical information out there! What a beautiful thing.
When i started the answer to the question "how do you turn that thing?" was "you go out and try it and figure it out".
Spent many hours figuring out things that are now learned in a few minutes watching videos if you pay attention. But that was also half the fun, learning something that very few other people have ever tried.
The first summer of the Lift, there was a group of guys that rented a cottage for the summer at the lake we frequent. They had bought 3 Fliteboards and were hawking learning rides at $300 pop trying to pay for their boards I think. They would see us out struggling (learning) and would always pull up and ask if we wanted a lesson. They used head sets and a teacher on another board and really got people going quickly. But they were dumbstruck that we would struggle when we could learn it quickly. Not grasping the joy of the self learning of something new and profoundly different. Just my take.
I'll be 65 in June and I think this stuff is part of the answer to staying young. The balance work required for this (and most) old folks is extensive. I always thought balance issues were inner ear kind of problems. Was surprised to be held back by muscles giving out from over use. I'm spent quite a few hours on a Blue Planet balance board and that has helped immensely.
Thank you for sharing and we really appreciate you! Your 2024 is going to be all time! Hope to share the water with you one day!
You guys rock! Awesome video as usual. Once this sport really takes off you'll be at the forefront of everyone's learning journey.
Question: Is it common to get the wing, board, and foil at different times and play with each setup once you get it? For example, I bought my wing first (to use with my SUP), then a 125 L board, and the foil last. The main reason is the expense of all the gear.
Yesterday I took the wing and the board (no foil) out and practiced everything you show in this video. Does the foil add a bit of stability to the board? It was pretty difficult to get up and riding, but I had a couple of good runs.
Thanks for the tips!
Yep the foil will act like a large rudder so it actually adds stability a little more. Saying that, the hardest part is balancing on the board in the beginning. It takes time and a few more sessions to find the balance.
What I would advise on this video is one person doing the water instruction. I found Kelly's start-up more similar to mine, sorry guys. My issue is my backfoot ends up too far over the center line. I am just realizing this. I have one season behind me however I can't gybe yet, but I am carving like a surfer. I feel like my carving ability is ahead of my turning. I am also learning to pump the foil which is a lot of fun. I would make a video on what type of skills or tricks you could be doing by the first season. I am 59; I may try jumping, not sure
Congrats friend you are killing it. Try this.. th-cam.com/video/Q30fSdZF6qk/w-d-xo.html
new x3 looks really stable in the wind. I've got a 6m x2.. how's the low-end grunt on the new x3 compared to x2? Stiffer?
Mike, Its very similar friend to the X2 just a lot more balanced and fine tuned. Low end power is about the same. The Cabrinha Mantis 6.2 would be in my eyes stiffer.
Just found you. Wow, fantastic production values and super instruction. Crossing over from windfoiling, and my wing gear has been ordered. Waiting for delivering and lake to thaw. Watching all your videos in preparation. Thank you.
Thank you friend!
If I want to go FAST in a straight line, not concerned with carving, can my Foil be too big for my weight? Will having the largest foil I can find ever slow me down with drag? Does the law of diminishing returns apply to this very specific scenario? Or does foil size only have to do with stability vs ease of turning? Thanks for making your channel!
Yes 100% if you have the biggest foil made it will have high amounts of Drag and will only go so fast. It will hit a wall at a certain speed. That is why people are loving the High aspect wings smaller sizes, high lift but less drag. A larger range for sure.
Thanks so much. I had my first Wing trial yesterday….very rewarding experience.
Enjoy the learning process! We appreciate you.
The wind power is generally 9-10 knots in the place where i live. Is it possible to do this sport with newbie equipment at this wind level?
That is on the light end my friend 100% but there is no question, it is windy enough to learn the basics and maybe get hooked then wait for the special 12-17 knot day!
Last year I was not able to get it, hopefully this year I will. This was perfect direction. I am struggling with getting the power to get the foil out of the water. Your explanation at 10:00 was perfect. Thanks so much @Damien Leroy
Glad we could help friend! Have a great weekend.
Hey Gwen and Damien, thanks for all the videos on winging! I am just getting up on foil and am wanting to know if you turn while up on foil by leaning with your body/ shifting your body weight or by trying to turn the nose of the board left right?
It is more of a body shift to steer downwind or upwind! Think driving your back foot forward pulling your front back and vise versa to go upwind or down wind. Little movements do a lot on a foil! Keep that in mind. Enjoy friend and thanks for the kind words.
As always your step by step walk through is great. I am going to remember that the back foot will ‘steer’ the board Then maintain the 90 degree angle to the direction of the wind. Many thanks! 👍
Happy to help Tim!
Is this spot in the keys?
Stuart ,FL
Thx so much! Your content is so useful. I am still struggling with controlling the foil, it always shoot up at a really steep angle. I can't seem to control it to slowly foil up and keep it at a controlled height
Slow your movements down. A foil is like a unicycle. Think of tiny weight shifts, not drastic movements forward or back. Less is more on a foil. You will get it.
Pretty good tip for beginner.
I bought my stuff and my first classes start at the end of April. I look forward to starting. I have already learned a lot thanks to these videos. Thanks for that and keep it up 👍👍👍
Great to hear friend! It's only going to get better.
finaly a great video on how to wing foil. what I was waiting for. thank you.
Thank you friend! Glad we could help!
Thanks guys...I really enjoy watching your videos!
Thank you Nico we appreciate you!
Thanks!
Thank you so much 🙏🙌
When I'm out there winging/learning I think of what you guys say ! Thanks !
Thank you Bill! We hope it helps my friend!
Thank you for sharing those helpful tips. Hi from La Ventana
Thank you so much! Love that place......
Your tips are helping me live my best life! Thank you so much!
So happy to hear this!
Thank you for all of your videos about this awesome sport…
Thank you Christophe!
Great video! Where is that location? Is that a good place to learn?
Thank you Bruno! Sure is Stuart Causeway in FL. Great place to learn.
I'm an old man and allegedly because of this fact I'm struggling to pass from the knees position to the archer position ...let alone to completely stand up I've 20 years experience in kitesurfing and HF but, after 5 attempts without standing this challenge seems too hard for me 🥵🥵🥵
Max, You go this, you might need a larger board or potentially inflatable! We believe in you brother. Spend some time on land going through the process over and over.
@@DamienLeroyTH-cam thanks mate; my board is a Gong Lance 5.7 120 L (my weight is 75 k) that in the beach seems to me a ship ; i tryed even an inflatable Fanatic (150 L) with the same poor result; I'll keep on trying because no pain no gain Thanks for your tutorials
@@maxred86 You got this buddy! It's a hard sport you will get there. Make sure your foil is very large and can lift in very slow speeds! 2100 or more.... BIG! It will help a ton.
Seen this video a number of times. Thanks for sharing! I am currently trying to learn to get up on the board again today at Corpus and my biggest reason for falling off the board while on my knees is not being able to direct my board upwind! Over and over and getting blown downwind. Then the wing wants to stand up and flip over. Several hours into this for a second day... trying to apply your suggestions on how to direct my board but I'm simply not able to... any other suggestions? Thanks guys!
Repetition really! Its a hard change! The only option I can say maybe watch this as well great video, Another option th-cam.com/video/FfM8ezkabGk/w-d-xo.html
How hilarious! The guy I talked to on Tuesday at Kiteboarding.com told me to watch this very video! This was a game changer on being able to improve my balance as I went up to my knees. All you wingers are in the know brother! Thanks for your reply and suggestion. I'm sure I'll shoot you more questions as I improve!
@@jeffpeterson9452 Great to hear Jeff! Have an incredible weekend!
Thank you for sharing all that knowledge!
Thank you!
Hi Guys..the way i learn is this…i get up straight on the board, put front foot in the footstap, wing on the water, get balance, grab your front handle of the wing, let wind hold wing in the air, switch to your strut ( front and rear ) handle and Voilà….good to go. And you have to do this VERY QUICK at the beginning….👍
Thank you Pat for you info, so helpful for everyone. You rock!
@@DamienLeroyTH-cam I can’t wait to see your next video on foil..keep nice job👍
@@patauger1193 Thank you Pat!
Great video and effort to break the waterstart down 🙏😎
Thank you Vincent!
Great instructional and encouraging videos. You mention at about 10,20 about letting out a little power. I notice your right arm(back hand) extends out to release power. I've also heard about releasing power by raising the wing. Which would you say is the best way and does it change when you are on foil. Many a time on foil i have to really let out lots of power with the back hand to basically stop climbing. Is there anything else i should be doing to keep the board flat on foil with so much power?
Paul great eye! They both work but releasing the hand will let power out for sure, Changing the angle of the wing more above your head will just give lift up vs sideways and slow you down as well. The other way to loose power is to angle your board a little more downwind as you will then get less wing into your wing. I hope that makes sense.
@@DamienLeroyTH-cam great feedback. The bit about pointing the board down wind to loose power is different to windsurfing which would increase speed and hence lift. Just need to talk myself to downwind more to loose power.
@@TheYellowDmon Sheet your back hand out, point your board more down wind and you will loose power. If you are riding way overpowered on the wing, maybe this will not work. Just a thought.
Hi guys, I started following you before buying the equipment. Thank you very much for your videos, they are excellent and very helpful for a beginner like me in particular, and also for more experienced people coming from different backgrounds. I really like this video in particular because you are giving important tips standing on the board, step by step, in the water. Please could you make a video with some instructions about how to return to the beach in the same starting point? I know, it is a very tricky point, especially for beginners! :)
See if this helps! Thank you for the kind words! th-cam.com/video/t_-9aWM-KUE/w-d-xo.html
@@DamienLeroyTH-cam Thank you. I watched it many many many times 😅 but unfortunately I can not go out often and I need definitely to practice a lot with the best weather conditions .For example I arrive often to the beach with a very weak wind or choppy water and current of the high tide make things more difficult. I found out anyway that watching your videos where you are on the water is more helpful than ever!
@@Tonio_Abis Glad we can help friend! The sport is hard and takes time, enjoy the ride of learning....
Great job. Extremely helpful for me.
Thank you Vincent!
Damien had the best beginner look on water 😄
Thanks Mike! I consider myself still learning! :)
Great Video, thank you. I'm finding once I come up on foil the speed increases heaps and I'm struggling to contain control.
That is a hard transition always! Just let off power in your wing "back hand" and maybe steer your board a hair down wind and it should help with the speed and slow you down. You can also bring your wing more over your head and it will lift up vs pulling you faster and faster if you are not sheeting out with your back hand. Hope that can help.
@@DamienLeroyTH-cam thank you, really appreciate your advice.
@@bretta2125 Thank you Brett happy to help!
Great tips guys
Thank you!
Great video 😀
Thank you Tom!
my main problem is when I get on foil I go most of the time upwind the board turn a lot and I fell sometimes the other way. but to keep the board straight is not easy. I love your videos, you are the best coaches!
Just takes more time on the water friend! You will get it. We appreciate you!