Also, love the teardrop. Maybe a tour of that beauty sometime, since many would love to travel and camp with their radio equipment. Thanks for the ARES/RACES demo video.
I did a walk through of the trailer three years ago, but we've done enough upgrades to it over the years that it warrants another. A new tour is coming in the next few weeks.
Thanks for the video!! This exercise looked like a great opportunity to network- knowing who to call and when is critical for emcomm and emerg mgt. 73 de N2MXX in NJ
Our group was there by invitation of our local emergency manager, and I did get to talk plenty about amateur radio and how its role fits into public safety emergency communications.
Really interesting coms. In Arkansas today we are doing an exercise just to get our hams involved in emergency communications and find out where we need to improve our interactions with the state agences.
KB9VBR - Great idea to bring a camera along for this type of exercise! With so many new HAMS in the last few years (especially those getting tickets for prepper coms), perhaps glimpses like this will encourage more of us to get involved (and stay involved) in ARES and RACES. 73 K9PVM
It is one thing to hear about what you can sign up for to help BUT to see it in action is WAY COOL and might help some out there and participate. Also nice for people to see where some of their local tax money is going and I bet most don't even know that their local government has something set up. Very nice video, thanks for the share
I would really like to see this in 2024. If I live in WI, could I just show up to learn stuff? So much radio tech all in one place!!! This would be heaven!
WOW keep enchanting , great bit rig with a lot of radios, but what about: antenna, filter, coupler mixer? in this environment how they interact ? see a trailer with over 10 radio inside but cant see relative antennas....
What kinds of antennas did you use and can you tell me where i can purchase the antennas on ground by teardrop trailer and also how to set it up and the other thing is what do all the different radios you had out do and what is the best public safety radio to get.
The HF antenna is a Chameleon MPAS-2 vertical and the VHF/UHF antenna is my J-Pole antenna that I sell: www.jpole-antenna.com/ As for the best public service radio, that's a difficult question to answer, all I'll say is that it should be FCC Part 90 Type certified.
@@KB9VBRAntennas Thank you very much I am 16 trying to get my technician license and k am interested in emergency communications I love your content thank you
Are any of these setups equipped to communicate with FRS/GMRS, MURS, Marine and CB? Monitoring for emergency traffic from people needing rescue who happen to have these lying around could be huge.
Some of them do, some don't. It depends on the mission of the agency running the communications trailer/vehicle. Often times these are used as an Incident Command Post and they wouldn't be actively scanning other radio services for distress calls. That activity would be better served by an NGO or outside group which could then interface with the governmental agency.
@KB9VBRAntennas very good, thanks. I just added this capability to my own shack for Helene type emergencies. I'll post it below for anyone in an area where it could be useful. It could literally be hillbilly 911, but anyone can do it: After Helene, I saw some great things some hams did that could easily be expanded to bridge the gap to non-ham people who have no interest in radio, but have radios lying around. All we hams and GMRSers have to do is scan these frequencies during critical incidents. My inexpensive formula for this concept: 1): At least one Retevis RT-95, unlocked to Mode 02 with first 30+ channels being the 30 GMRS freqs (don't forget to enter the offsets on 467 MHz so you can receive someone calling into a dead repeater) plus the repeaters in your area. Then add the five MURS freqs, Marine Channels 16, 68, 69, 71 & 72. Add the color dot and itinerant star freqs from business band radios. This radio will need a different antenna than your ham VHF/UHF set. I recommend the Comet FC5NMO, because it is specialized for the above range of freqs. 2): At least one scanner with the above frequencies, plus the CB channels, including AM freeband freqs. On separate banks, add The business/itinerant freqs, ham calling freqs and repeater freqs in your area (AND their offsets), your local fire, law, public works, and Airband freqs in your area. The scanner frequency range should be at least 25 MHz to 470 MHz, but 700 & 800 MHz is heavily used in many areas without encryption, so good to have that as well. 3): At least one CB radio or 10-12 meter band ham radio with scanning ability and a channelized tuner, unlockable to 11-meter band. You'll want the full 102-inch whip to pull in weak signals transmitted under less than ideal circumstances. Don't forget the freeband commonly used in your area. 4): At least one additional unlocked portable ham radio (and CB, if applicable), to maintain contact with the calling party as you approach to locate and assist them. Two portables, if you have someone coming with you to help. Now simply scan for emergency traffic during critical incidents and be prepared to quickly stop scanning and write down what you hear, including everything you will need to identify, recontact and locate the person needing assistance after you leave your radio base station (this concept assumes first responders are unavailable). Program the portable(s) before you leave to help. Try to have others stage the things you will need to take with you, such as medical supplies, safety equipment, tools, gas cans, etcetera. Confirm the address given actually exists, and be aware that calls for help could be a setup for a robbery or ambush. Take another person with you, and leave a copy of the plan with someone else who can monitor, preferably at your base station. Relay to any ham EMCOMM station, if up and running, in case someone is closer than you that can help.
I sometimes wonder why we need ham radio for emergencies when we have setups like some of the large comms trucks have? I know not every community has these but alot more do than they used to.
Skip - W5UTW - New Braunfels, TX CERT - Interop between agencies. Do you folk used different radios or mod HF radios to open those frequencies to other agencies? We're trying to set up an EMC trailer. How many/freq/height antennas required etc. Any guidance gratefully accepted.
Interesting video. I can't understand why - in many places - more time and effort isn't put into training. Also, I just had to say it -- I believe there are auctioneers out there who wish they could speak as rapidly as Amateur Radio Operators giving their call signs.
Yes you can. Amateur radio operators with a Technician license can be an ARES/RACES member. The great majority of ARES/RACES operations are done on VHF and UHF.
We don't locally, just about everything we do for ARES/RACES is analog. But that should be a consideration because if another group nearby is using DMR or another digital mode, you should be prepared to operate with them if mutual aid is requested.
@@KB9VBRAntennas I would support the use of all available tools for local communication and interoperability with other groups. Where I am there is a DMR network used to talk to my area NWS office to support severe weather events. Most of the rf is analog otherwise. I have ability to use the DMR and local fm during a weather net. If packet is available, or winlink, etc., have that available as well. Thanks
CERT is not very active in Wisconsin, just a few counties have active CERT programs. I think some use amateur frequencies and some GMRS. I believe any such interaction would be through the county emergency manager as both ARES/RACES and CERT would report to them.
It used to be that once you got north of Hwy 8, cell service would disappear. I've been amazed, over the last couple years, of how many place I can go and still get a signal.
As of 3:00pm on Easter Sunday of 2022 there has been an emergency service breaking in locally (NE Ohio) on gmrs ch2 462.5875. I heard them again at 7:00am this morning doing the same thing. They announced that they are the emergency service and tell police and other services not to reply, then they exit with call letters. Last night it was a man, this morning it was a woman, both sounded like they were definitely serious. I didn't get the call letters, but will be recording now. It seems that with what's going on in the East, they may have started something that I don't recall them doing before. 73s KE8OPY.
Very interesting event. Would love to join one day for networking and taking some ideas over to Europe. During recent floods in Germany public safety radio system has been damaged heavily in the disaster zone and also cell service was interrupted. As a small ngo we are always looking for new ideas to improve on communication.
Sometimes it just takes someone talking to a couple of people to get them interested in getting the ball rolling. Two organizations might get together in the beginning, then a third might join in next time, etc. The important thing is that if nobody tries it, it won't happen.
To be a member of ARES or RACES you do need a Technician or higher amateur radio license. A GMRS license, in addition to an amateur license, would be helpful but not necessary.
you guys are always ready looking at your gear is light years ahead to some of the communications used in Australia. it is improving as units are updated to p25. great video as always 73.
It hasn't been an overnight process, we are slowly learning. There has been over 20 years of natural disasters and other events that have reinforced the need of interoperable communications.
I feel you on price. But as the saying goes, "How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time." Save up a bit at a time and you'll eventually have what you need.
Very Interesting. However you can not legally link a public service band to an amateur radio, because you must have a license to operate on amateur radio, for public service you are granted the privilege to use the public service by the SWIC of the State in question. Next you can not legally use your amateur radio call sign on any other band, including Marine, GRMS, or public service. This is where the amateur radio net control person becomes valuable. Having been a police officer for twenty-one years and a ham since 1991, part of the time I was a police officer, I see the value of interoperable communications. I wonder what they will do in a true communications disaster where the Internet goes down, and there is no FirstNet and maybe no satellite access?
Those ACU interconnect units offer a wealth of flexibility when it comes to interoperability, but you are correct, there are legal issues involved. It would be better for net control or a liaison be issued a radio with the necessary public safety frequency to interface with the Incident command.
@@KB9VBRAntennas I agree. when we worked the Ocean City (MD) Air Show, we were given an 800 MHz radio on the talk group of the Section we were working under, in our case Operations. We worked as a single resource (common frequency with a supervisor) watching persons in the crowd. Good practice with ICS! In Delaware, only one county really values amateur radio enough to put a full station in their Mobile Command Unit (MCU). I am a certified COMT and learned the value of the ACU, however only with bands under control of the SWIC. No amateur radio!
Those inter-link systems are priceless in multi jurisdictional response, and came more out of necessity after 9/11 where fire/pd/ems were all on different frequencies and couldn't communicate with each other. Most first responder radio's are pre-tuned to certain frequencies and cannot go outside that range. Even Hurricane Sandy, which was a decade later, most of the north east had non-functional repeaters after a few hours after the battery backup were used up. Most of the time, you just get issued another radio for the other agency. That works when the number of people are limited, it doesn't help if the volunteers outnumber federal/local/state workers at the scene and they only have their own HT's.
It's not even worth doing any shit like this been there done that with amateur radio emergency services which was totally BS they don't like people that are handicapped and they jam people well they don't like screw them let it no longer have a license‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
Nice to see a large drill like this. We haven't had a big drill for a while.
This is an area of the hobby that I'm interested in getting into. I'd love to see more videos on this topic.
Also, love the teardrop. Maybe a tour of that beauty sometime, since many would love to travel and camp with their radio equipment. Thanks for the ARES/RACES demo video.
I did a walk through of the trailer three years ago, but we've done enough upgrades to it over the years that it warrants another. A new tour is coming in the next few weeks.
Very cool Michael! As a member of my local ARES, it's nice seeing a larger scale drill like this. 73
That was awesome ! Thanks for taking us along !
Very interesting to see this. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks for the video!! This exercise looked like a great opportunity to network- knowing who to call and when is critical for emcomm and emerg mgt. 73 de N2MXX in NJ
Our group was there by invitation of our local emergency manager, and I did get to talk plenty about amateur radio and how its role fits into public safety emergency communications.
Very interesting thank you for taking us along.
Really interesting coms. In Arkansas today we are doing an exercise just to get our hams involved in emergency communications and find out where we need to improve our interactions with the state agences.
What a boss, you have a secretary!
Liked the radio discipline demonstrated by the ham participants. Concise check ins, PLAIN language vs. Q-codes or other.
That's a pretty slick event.
KB9VBR - Great idea to bring a camera along for this type of exercise! With so many new HAMS in the last few years (especially those getting tickets for prepper coms), perhaps glimpses like this will encourage more of us to get involved (and stay involved) in ARES and RACES. 73 K9PVM
I totally agree. Exercises like this are a good example of how amateur radio can fit into public safety emergency communications.
Thanks. Interesting to see the Wisconsin perspective here in Illinois.
Appreciate you recording and sharing. I'd like to get into this someday when I have a bit more experience under my hat.
73 from KD9SEG
Very good overview of an EMCOMM demonstration. Thank you. 73 de KM4VRW from Tampa Bay, Florida.
It is one thing to hear about what you can sign up for to help BUT to see it in action is WAY COOL and might help some out there and participate.
Also nice for people to see where some of their local tax money is going and I bet most don't even know that their local government has something set up. Very nice video, thanks for the share
I would really like to see this in 2024. If I live in WI, could I just show up to learn stuff? So much radio tech all in one place!!! This would be heaven!
This is the first time I've heard of the term ACU. A hard term to search for... I would like to know more about such devices.
Seeing it 2024 as well, I have all the AARL books for radio theory. I’m interested in ARES/RACES/Auxxcomm
WOW keep enchanting , great bit rig with a lot of radios, but what about: antenna, filter, coupler mixer? in this environment how they interact ? see a trailer with over 10 radio inside but cant see relative antennas....
Antennas are not the problem 😀.
The big problem is bandpass filtering.
Without it, in a real world situation, it won't work 😀
(with infrstructure
Sorry...
(with infrastructer down you can only use simplex.
And then you find that those radios don't work at the same time)
That com truck from the CST had a lot more room than the one we worked out of here
Big Blue has some gear! Nice video!
73. Good luck 👍
Very interesting. Thanks KE8PAG
How often does this group do this exercise? I'd love to participate next time.
What kinds of antennas did you use and can you tell me where i can purchase the antennas on ground by teardrop trailer and also how to set it up and the other thing is what do all the different radios you had out do and what is the best public safety radio to get.
The HF antenna is a Chameleon MPAS-2 vertical and the VHF/UHF antenna is my J-Pole antenna that I sell: www.jpole-antenna.com/ As for the best public service radio, that's a difficult question to answer, all I'll say is that it should be FCC Part 90 Type certified.
@@KB9VBRAntennas Thank you very much I am 16 trying to get my technician license and k am interested in emergency communications I love your content thank you
Now that was some great stuff. Thanks for taking me with you Michael.
Are any of these setups equipped to communicate with FRS/GMRS, MURS, Marine and CB? Monitoring for emergency traffic from people needing rescue who happen to have these lying around could be huge.
Some of them do, some don't. It depends on the mission of the agency running the communications trailer/vehicle. Often times these are used as an Incident Command Post and they wouldn't be actively scanning other radio services for distress calls. That activity would be better served by an NGO or outside group which could then interface with the governmental agency.
@KB9VBRAntennas very good, thanks. I just added this capability to my own shack for Helene type emergencies. I'll post it below for anyone in an area where it could be useful. It could literally be hillbilly 911, but anyone can do it:
After Helene, I saw some great things some hams did that could easily be expanded to bridge the gap to non-ham people who have no interest in radio, but have radios lying around. All we hams and GMRSers have to do is scan these frequencies during critical incidents. My inexpensive formula for this concept:
1): At least one Retevis RT-95, unlocked to Mode 02 with first 30+ channels being the 30 GMRS freqs (don't forget to enter the offsets on 467 MHz so you can receive someone calling into a dead repeater) plus the repeaters in your area. Then add the five MURS freqs, Marine Channels 16, 68, 69, 71 & 72. Add the color dot and itinerant star freqs from business band radios. This radio will need a different antenna than your ham VHF/UHF set. I recommend the Comet FC5NMO, because it is specialized for the above range of freqs.
2): At least one scanner with the above frequencies, plus the CB channels, including AM freeband freqs. On separate banks, add The business/itinerant freqs, ham calling freqs and repeater freqs in your area (AND their offsets), your local fire, law, public works, and Airband freqs in your area. The scanner frequency range should be at least 25 MHz to 470 MHz, but 700 & 800 MHz is heavily used in many areas without encryption, so good to have that as well.
3): At least one CB radio or 10-12 meter band ham radio with scanning ability and a channelized tuner, unlockable to 11-meter band. You'll want the full 102-inch whip to pull in weak signals transmitted under less than ideal circumstances. Don't forget the freeband commonly used in your area.
4): At least one additional unlocked portable ham radio (and CB, if applicable), to maintain contact with the calling party as you approach to locate and assist them. Two portables, if you have someone coming with you to help.
Now simply scan for emergency traffic during critical incidents and be prepared to quickly stop scanning and write down what you hear, including everything you will need to identify, recontact and locate the person needing assistance after you leave your radio base station (this concept assumes first responders are unavailable). Program the portable(s) before you leave to help. Try to have others stage the things you will need to take with you, such as medical supplies, safety equipment, tools, gas cans, etcetera. Confirm the address given actually exists, and be aware that calls for help could be a setup for a robbery or ambush. Take another person with you, and leave a copy of the plan with someone else who can monitor, preferably at your base station. Relay to any ham EMCOMM station, if up and running, in case someone is closer than you that can help.
Impressive 👍🏻✌🏻🇨🇦
Hopefully all of these rigs are emp protected
I sometimes wonder why we need ham radio for emergencies when we have setups like some of the large comms trucks have? I know not every community has these but alot more do than they used to.
There are never enough during an emergency
I have had some difficulty getting in touch with our local ARES/RACES team I really need to try again as I am very interested in getting involved.
AWSOME 👍👍👍
how are they useing lowfrequency to create microwave hearing voice to skull medusa silent hearing?
Skip - W5UTW - New Braunfels, TX CERT - Interop between agencies. Do you folk used different radios or mod HF radios to open those frequencies to other agencies? We're trying to set up an EMC trailer. How many/freq/height antennas required etc. Any guidance gratefully accepted.
Good work, amazing equipment. Hope someone knows how to operate it!
When those response trailers roll, they are usually staffed with trained personnel
Interesting video. I can't understand why - in many places - more time and effort isn't put into training.
Also, I just had to say it -- I believe there are auctioneers out there who wish they could speak as rapidly as Amateur Radio Operators giving their call signs.
Very cool, I am involved with ARES here in central Iowa, so this is wonderful to see.
Low band radio?
Can you get in to doing that with a technician classes license?
Yes you can. Amateur radio operators with a Technician license can be an ARES/RACES member. The great majority of ARES/RACES operations are done on VHF and UHF.
I'm trying to change those radios over to regular frequency
Awesome video…. Love it….. Do you folks use dmr for ares or races?
We don't locally, just about everything we do for ARES/RACES is analog. But that should be a consideration because if another group nearby is using DMR or another digital mode, you should be prepared to operate with them if mutual aid is requested.
@@KB9VBRAntennas I would support the use of all available tools for local communication and interoperability with other groups. Where I am there is a DMR network used to talk to my area NWS office to support severe weather events. Most of the rf is analog otherwise. I have ability to use the DMR and local fm during a weather net. If packet is available, or winlink, etc., have that available as well. Thanks
very nice to see newcom safety drills ,like also in the Netherlands called Dares dutch amateur radio emergency society.
adriaan pa1ad
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Michael, how do you infer phase w/CERT in your state? Ty, KC7FBN
CERT is not very active in Wisconsin, just a few counties have active CERT programs. I think some use amateur frequencies and some GMRS. I believe any such interaction would be through the county emergency manager as both ARES/RACES and CERT would report to them.
I had no idea the DNR had such a nice set up. I was wondering how they communicate in the North. Cell service can be very sketchy.
It used to be that once you got north of Hwy 8, cell service would disappear. I've been amazed, over the last couple years, of how many place I can go and still get a signal.
As of 3:00pm on Easter Sunday of 2022 there has been an emergency service breaking in locally (NE Ohio) on gmrs ch2 462.5875. I heard them again at 7:00am this morning doing the same thing. They announced that they are the emergency service and tell police and other services not to reply, then they exit with call letters. Last night it was a man, this morning it was a woman, both sounded like they were definitely serious. I didn't get the call letters, but will be recording now. It seems that with what's going on in the East, they may have started something that I don't recall them doing before.
73s KE8OPY.
Very interesting event. Would love to join one day for networking and taking some ideas over to Europe. During recent floods in Germany public safety radio system has been damaged heavily in the disaster zone and also cell service was interrupted. As a small ngo we are always looking for new ideas to improve on communication.
wish my area did something like that
Sometimes it just takes someone talking to a couple of people to get them interested in getting the ball rolling. Two organizations might get together in the beginning, then a third might join in next time, etc. The important thing is that if nobody tries it, it won't happen.
I'm looking for a program to program Motorola's the Motorola mtx8250
can a tech license or gmrs license join ARES and RACES.?
To be a member of ARES or RACES you do need a Technician or higher amateur radio license. A GMRS license, in addition to an amateur license, would be helpful but not necessary.
you guys are always ready looking at your gear is light years ahead to some of the communications used in Australia. it is improving as units are updated to p25. great video as always 73.
It hasn't been an overnight process, we are slowly learning. There has been over 20 years of natural disasters and other events that have reinforced the need of interoperable communications.
I want to get back to radio but im moving very slow.... its still pricey for me...
No, it is not.
You can restart on a tight budget, and later evolve...👍
I feel you on price. But as the saying goes, "How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time." Save up a bit at a time and you'll eventually have what you need.
@@lonewolf025 yes... im getting ready with my QRP set up... hopefully I can go on air soon...
Usa has many radio oprator so ypu can make thos type of activity but india we are only 22000 radio oprators and we get low progring invetation
😲
Very Interesting. However you can not legally link a public service band to an amateur radio, because you must have a license to operate on amateur radio, for public service you are granted the privilege to use the public service by the SWIC of the State in question. Next you can not legally use your amateur radio call sign on any other band, including Marine, GRMS, or public service. This is where the amateur radio net control person becomes valuable. Having been a police officer for twenty-one years and a ham since 1991, part of the time I was a police officer, I see the value of interoperable communications. I wonder what they will do in a true communications disaster where the Internet goes down, and there is no FirstNet and maybe no satellite access?
Those ACU interconnect units offer a wealth of flexibility when it comes to interoperability, but you are correct, there are legal issues involved. It would be better for net control or a liaison be issued a radio with the necessary public safety frequency to interface with the Incident command.
@@KB9VBRAntennas I agree. when we worked the Ocean City (MD) Air Show, we were given an 800 MHz radio on the talk group of the Section we were working under, in our case Operations. We worked as a single resource (common frequency with a supervisor) watching persons in the crowd. Good practice with ICS! In Delaware, only one county really values amateur radio enough to put a full station in their Mobile Command Unit (MCU). I am a certified COMT and learned the value of the ACU, however only with bands under control of the SWIC. No amateur radio!
Those inter-link systems are priceless in multi jurisdictional response, and came more out of necessity after 9/11 where fire/pd/ems were all on different frequencies and couldn't communicate with each other. Most first responder radio's are pre-tuned to certain frequencies and cannot go outside that range. Even Hurricane Sandy, which was a decade later, most of the north east had non-functional repeaters after a few hours after the battery backup were used up.
Most of the time, you just get issued another radio for the other agency. That works when the number of people are limited, it doesn't help if the volunteers outnumber federal/local/state workers at the scene and they only have their own HT's.
In SHTF situation there is a good probability that only simplex radioamateur analog simplex radio (VHF, UHF, HF) would work 😂😂😂
Wyd
It's not even worth doing any shit like this been there done that with amateur radio emergency services which was totally BS they don't like people that are handicapped and they jam people well they don't like screw them let it no longer have a license‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️