Also the reason why this took so long to work is because your Xbox is looking for a certain baud rate if your drive does not communicate the data fast enough your Xbox will assume that it has a weak connection to the storage device and I think you're right the drive itself is fast enough but the adapter itself cannot interpret the data efficiently
Of course it did, there's nothing special about console-branded hard drives. You can't play true gen9/scarlet games off of anything that doesn't plug into flash expansion slot (or the internal drive).
That’s a miracle, the Seagate external hard drives are trash teir, I have had 2 die on me in the past 5 years. First in warranty second one 6 months out of it, and they say planned obsolescence isn’t a thing 🤦🏻♂️
Just spend 60 on 2 tb on Amazon for an external. Works perfectly. You may have to move a game here an there between ‘‘em but it literally take 5 minutes for or Valhalla.
That is a HDD not an SSD. Series x games that are specifically made for series x must be stored on an SSD. That option of an HDD external only works for xbox one x or earlier games.
@@countryboyq I use one. And literally explained how it’s done. You may have to move a game from the ext to the internal. But the 5 minutes it takes is a small price to pay considering the 3-5 hundred dollar Ssd you want him to get.
@@AMCKEEL1sorry I may have misunderstood. So you are only storing the game on the external, then you move it to the internal when you want to play it? Is that what you are saying?
@@countryboyq yup. Super fast to do. And as you said. Any game which isn’t an xsx game which is more then you think you can play right off of it. But yes. I fill my int with what I’m playing if something needs moved I move it. Simple as that. Really fast. Like 100gb is 5 minutes. So. Definitely worth my time. Instead of spending that much money on the Ssd that costs the same as our consoles
You just demonstrated exactly WHY I usually end up buying the official stuff anyway. 😂 "We only had to buy these five things, put them together in exactly the right order, format it, plug it in three times, still didn't really work, we got errors, could potentially be harmful.." Stop. Just stop. I'll pay the crazy high price, just give me an item that works that I can plug in immediately. 😂
Convenience is worth the cost a lot of the time. Tinkering is for hobbies where the fun is in the tinkering itself. When it comes to gaming. Well. We know where the fun in that is
When they make these consoles they try to make them as cheap as possible without it actually being cheap. Every console is sold at a loss so I’m not surprised they didn’t add multiple of the same port besides usb obviously. Just my opinion
They should make they break up thing, like they have with plugs or usb, you put one in the slot and it'll be a lil brick that will have 2 slots for the cards
I literally bought some random 600gb drive from Amazon for like $40 and plugged it in and it works perfectly fine idk why y’all guys are spending $100 just for 512 💀
@@jamanijohnson8963yeah and wait 20 minutes every time you want to play something. I think this is the biggest problem we’re going to have going forward with consoles.
The error could be a red herring. Try messing with the cluster size when formatting. This has been an issue in other systems because they had a very specific cluster size. Sounds weird but it has helped in the past. Depending on your skill level, reflowing any soldered parts in the adapter is never a bad idea either.
These SSD adapters work fine in my experience. You guys seem to have put the wrong SSD in it. They only work with either CH SN530 or XA1 SSD drives (not the SN520 you tried in it or even a standard SN530). These two working options are PCIe 4.0 cards.
It's probably a good guess that it's the adapter but it's still early on so I'm sure in the future there will be functional models. Probably not on wish though.
I got my 1tb expansion card for £150 from CEX store, kept my internal memory free (all on exp card) and also have an external SSD for games that aren't S/X compatible, MS must have locked out everything else except Seagate from the internal memory/system and the card, makes sense why your one didn't work, because the card has to sync to the XB, would have been a great option tho.
The fact that these have a limited amount of read cycles that dictate their life span means you should never buy a used SSD that's like buying a used battery
The adapter for psvita isn't for their proprietary memory card, it's called SD2VITA and its for modded vita's only, it actually goes into the game card slot and you can use it alongside a vita memory card My personal slim vita has a 128gb micro SD inside an SD2VITA adapter alongside a 32gb vita memory card
Man, in my Vita craze phase I splurged 90 euros to import a 64gigs memory card from japan, and it was still cheaper than buying it from european sellers. Few years late I too went with a SD2VITA adapter and never looked back ❤
From what I saw, Xbox needs a drive with PCIe Gen4 to work as intended. I saw on the beggining of the video that you are using a WD Blue PC SN520, and the PC SN520 is Gen3. In theory, if you look for the CH SN530 should work as the original Seagate card.
They should bring back the SSD card to plug in the controller it would great and then you plug and play with friends on there consoles with your own settings ......needs to happen
That would only work on wired controllers and even then it would need to be at least USB 3.2 to not be a major bottleneck. Bluetooth is just too slow for data transfer. Would be better off adding USB 4 to future SKUs and allowing fast enough USB drives to be used as an alternative to the CFX cards.
The 64 GB card out of a steam deck is an SSD, SSD stands for solid state drive, nvme card, it just uses EMMC over pcie 2X1 instead of SLC/MLC/TLC over pcie 4x4, So it didn't work because it didn't support the right PCIe version, do not support enough pcie lanes, didn't meet xboxs minimum storage reqiurments and was too slow, All in all it's not hard to find things that work you just have to make sure you're using compatible flash drives
!!!! people love tech and are so ignorant of it, thank you for this comment, as someone who thought this immediately, it's a shame to see so many "tech savvy guys" not know anything 🤦♂️
I use a WD HD...Western digital hard drive 6TB..... I use that for all xbox one /oneX/ 360 games. Works great. £60 UK pounds.... WD my passport.... Sorry quick edit.. I use it on my xbox one X & series X.
Bobby, does the Western Digital 6TB hard drive work for Series X games, or just Xbox/Xbox 360/Xbox One games? Thanks man. Deciding between getting PS5 and Series X.
you can still use the new ssd with the usb adapter and just plug it in the xbox usb port. It will work like an external drive for the older games but faster cause its ssd.
The prices for the 513gb and 1TB are pretty close in price to the M.2 options for the PS5 of which there is a fair amount of competition. I don’t think competition is going to lower the prices much-if at all.
It will in the long term. Right now you can't tell because the tech market is wonky thanks to shortages, but in normal situations it should make a difference
@XboxReady The SSD you are using is the PC sn530, its PCIe Gen3x4. The SSD in the xbox is the CH sn530, its PCIe Gen4x4 and it has a security layer, the reason you are getting the poor connection message is that the console cannot use the PCIe Gen4x4 protocol to communicate and has to revert to the slower gen 3 pci speeds which cannot support the DirectStorage APIs for Xbox Series X|S consoles.
Xbox series S and Series X use a SSD that's not soldered to the board unlike the PS5 where the SSD is soldered to the board, if you could clone the original software from your original SSD or reinstall the software onto new SSD you could upgrade your Xbox to a bigger capacity SSD on your Series S or series X,
So I have actually been looking into this as an option for months but still the cost of a ssd that’s worth throwing in it when all is said an done is only like 40$ cheaper.
Love your vids man, dor real i do. But maybe get an over head cam for stuff like this.. im hands on learning.. an that would help me alot idk about everyone else.. but i think it be worth it specially with projects like this.
If you have storage issues this might help: i bought a 2tb card (ik expensive as hell but worth it) i put ONLY series x/s games on it and i have external sea gates for my xbox one and 360 games, so i have 3tb just for x/s games and i have 9 tb for everything else, and if i run outta internal storage (which will be hard cause i have like every game on game pass, plus more installed and still have storage) ill just put my most played x/s games internally stored and move my games when i wanna play which dont take long. I have two new 4 tb seagate external hard drives only for xbox one / extra x/s games and an old white seagate for all my old games for anyone wondering, it works well i dont have problems with storage anymore and i play alotta games, and yes every usb slot is being used lol Edit: i know theres bigger external xbox drives out there but i just got the two 4 tb drives cause it was just convenient for me at the time
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that expandable storage does work. i have a sn530 1tb. and it only worked with that. o yeah, and you have to convert it to MRB before installing it on series S/X with no issue what so ever. i think maybe the problem could be the format or the storage size.
Well it is looking like Western Digital is now going to start making storage expansions drives for the Series X and S. Which should force seagate to drop the price on their drives. Hope this is the case even though I already have a 2TB external expansions drive for my Series X.
Doesn't work for X/S games. But I'm not bothered just switching the games around from ext to int when I want to play different ones. Doesn't take that long.
@@Slayers_Gaming_And_Reddits exactly man waiting like 5 mins to move a game is nothing, just make a coffee or a tea while I wait I'm not fussed. Yeah it's better if you can play them all without moving, but is it £200 better... Nah
I think it could be software based that the Seagate is hard coded into the OS hardware expansion slot. would need to rip the hidden files off the Seagate expansion card & clone over to a new m.2 drive with same requirements as the Seagate card to create a m.2 clone.
I just heard a old minecraft song and now im buying xbox 360 minecraft to play it once again 😢 i remember when i used to play it every day when the old music and tutorial was still there im so happy xbox lets you play old games
Console gaming is awesome for maximum performance for minimal expense. At this point, you can get into an entry level gaming laptop with more storage, better performance, and equal compatibility to Series X. I’m an Xbox FanBoi. I love my box. But, PC/Xbox hybrid (buy a PC, use an Xbox Controller and GamePass Ultimate) is really the only way to go.
My big issue is that I want WAY more than currently offered... I'd love to have a 4TB internal, as well as a 4TB expansion. Considering how close to filled my current 3TB setup on my Series X is, and how many more games I want to add, I'm sure you can understand my desire for massive amounts of space. When y'all get it all figured out so I can get the drive sizes I desire, please post the video asap!
@@vitalsignscritical yes they do lol. I used my external that had games on it from my old Xbox and when I got my series x I plugged it in and could play the games immediately.
@@vitalsignscritical and if that doesn’t work, you can download them onto the external and simply just move it to your internal when you want to play it. I have series x games downloaded onto my hard drive and they still open, but that’s a second solution
@@AngerMaker413 That's because they are Xbox One or 360/xbox og backward compatability games, but game only on Series S/X will only play on Internal or seagate drives, otherwise even if they do play they'll be misssing the savestates/session and quick resume feature as that is only achiveable on those NVMe SSD's. Also I know you can dowload and move to play though I don't really se this as a solid solution as you have to move it over and you need space to move it over, which means you always need to keep space avialble if you want to move something which managing is a rather logistical problem and additionaly in this case you not actually maximising the use of space for availible games you can readily play at any given time. If a product like this actually worked it could offer up potential for better value in super fast mass game/app compatable storage.
@@vitalsignscritical I see what you’re saying, sorry. I misunderstood. As for the solution, I understand it’s not the most convenient but it’s a lot better than paying $200 for it, especially if you can’t afford it. Why on earth Microsoft launched the consoles and allowed the manufacturer to completely control the price, who knows. Also my question is why don’t regular ssd externals work?
Thank god I found this vid because I almost went down this internal expansion card road. Phew. I’ll just buy the actual thing and eat the price. 2 years after this vid posted and the situation is still the same lol.
Good video. As I watched it my thoughts lead me to conclude that, Wish the company, may have decided on their name by thinking, "Our customers are going to Wish they would have just paid for the quality product, made by the reputable company."and then they looked at each other and chuckled.
I just walked on down to the Walmart and bought a 4 TB Seagate storage and formatted it for my original Xbox One. Works pretty good but sometimes I have crashing if too much is going on running off of the Seagate like music and Game Pass and online gaming and all that but if I'm just playing a game and in a party it's not that big of a deal it can handle it pretty well
That's fine for xbox one x but not series x games. They must be stored on SSD not an HDD. The size of the games becomes an issue if you have them all installed on the series x internal 1tb storage. Some of these games are well over 100gb. I don't know about you but I own a lot of xbox games and those being updated for series x will fill my internal drive if I download them all. So basically I spend a ton of money for more storage space, only have games I currently play regularly installed, or find a storage option like these guys are trying to do.
@@TruFire710 having the feature didn’t almost kill the brand just giving tv and features other than gaming so much focus almost killed the brand. I loved the hdmi in port.
@@TruFire710 what's the excuse for getting rid of the optical input??? How does being able to plug in ur cable box to ur xbox almost ruin the brand??? U should be a lil more detailed then just spewing out nonsense
Got my 1 tb hard drive for my xbox. Yes it’s expensive but worth it. Having 1.2 tb left for games after having warzone 2, destiny, forza. Maste chief collections as the big downloads and some other little games it helps a lot
sounds complicated but all I do is hook up an old 1 tera drive that was faulty and starting to fail on my computer to a usb hard drive docking station and boom more space.
im a bit late. but I have a seagate 2TB external hard drive for my Xbox one, would that still not work on the series X/S? the thing was 80$ comparatively.
Oh we got a problem Houston! You have to format your drive with windows 11 in ntfs, because win10 make 2 partitions into a gpt recognizable drive at 'windows 10' start up... soooooo... format with ps5... and mount a ntfs with windows 11 ;)
It is the drive u have the wrong one! Not blue! Only 2230 m.2 ch530 it is worth it I bought the old school adapter and the correct m.2 drive and it works perfectly! No errors.
It seems pointless to spend $200 if you know your going to get expansible storage no matter what . Then just wait and buy the series x or buy one online used in great condition that way you get a disc drive and comes with extra storage also
Shortly after buying my xbox one i found a 10 tb external Seagate hard drive for 150 at best buy on sale it has worked with no issues other than the wire got messed up at some point in which i had to replace it but other than that i have 11 tbs for my Xbox one s
I couldn't be bothered to mess around with the adapter and find a drive that worked. I found the 1TB genuine card on eBay brand new for £120 so wasn't terrible.
At the very beginning you talked about Seagate's proprietary deal with Microsoft for expandable Xbox storage, so how did you seriously not know some flimsy adapter from Wish wouldn't work? I swear to God this is a Justin Flom video.
It doesn't work because Xbox is using proprietary tech on the ssd. It allows the console to access the data in a different way than on a standard ssd. They announced 2 or 3 years ago that this new tech would be coming to PC but didn't specify a release date. It will require a chipset update or possibly a whole new chipset for PC motherboards to properly recognize them. This is why a standard ssd won't work and why Xbox chose the slot connector to prevent people from using incompatible ssds.
Only thing it requires on the hardware side is pcie gen 4 over nvme protocol, the magic sauce is in the software using SSD as scratch space for hardware accelerated texture compiling.
The only difference between an xbox ssd and pc ssd is the firmware and the fact that it uses 2 lanes instead of 4. As long as the firmware checks out and the drive can hit a fast enough speed when restricted to 2 lanes it will work. There's no proprietary hardware, even the expansion slot is CFE (NVME in the form of a CF card) and just uses a custom card as the only compatible one.
Throughout the generations of xbox. The firmware needed to be specific for any compatible hdd to work. Xbox 360, needed a firmware to make the hdd builds to work. Same with thr xbox one through one x. All need a firmware flash to work. I speculate this is not any different.
You mean you can split partition a drive that gets used as xbox game storage? 10:10 How? I record a lot of game clips on my series x and I have a 64GB flash drive to take all my screenshots and clips. If I knew of a way I could split off say 250GB from my 4TB game HDD and just send screenshots and captures to that, it would make my life a heap easier
So my setup is I have a 1tb seagate memory card (that is what it is pretty much) with the 8tb external storage game hub. So any games I play that is series x are in the memory card, while any games I don't play are in the hub along with the Xbox One, and 360 games
It's not worth trying to use these adapters when you can get the official one for about the same price. I got the official 1tb seagate from ebay for £130, you just need to be patience to find one at the right price.
I have a 5 tb external hard drive and two 2tb external hard drive hooked into my series s works fine they use to be in my One x no problem why does everyone think you have to use 1st party products on Xbox? Your Xbox can format the storage for you... Something works with external SSDs
Because those drives can’t play S/X enhanced games and the only SSD drives are the ones made by seagate. Your old external drives can only play Xbox one games and/or non-enhanced games.
I don't personally use the Samsung drives but I got a sea gate that's way more worth it then the Xbox one it holds 6 terabytes of storage so any Xbox one games and shit won't have any problems losing space
The drive isn't proprietary (it's Compact Flash Express), it's just the only one that works in the xbox, it's like calling the PS5 m.2 slot proprietary for only supporting gen4 SSDs. You can actually get a CFE to M.2 adapter and use an SSD from a Series console as an expandable storage card and it will work fine.
@@damiendye6623 I was clarifying a little more. The OG xbox drive upgrade is a compact flash connector however the hardware inside is just a gen 4 nvme drive. Using this adapter will work but you need the actual ssd that is used inside the Xbox. Whatever models those are. The WD 530 I think will work as well but I can’t think of the exact model off the top of my head because this was a while back.
The reason the 64Gb wouldn't work is because Xbox won't recognize any drives smaller than 250Gb. They are the same way when it comes to using Any external drives.
@@wolfbrother9025 Look up Drive Requirement sizes for Xbox before telling them they are wrong.....Once again Size Matters! The Xbox Will Not Allow Any HDD/SDD/Flash Drive under 250gb.....I've tried and already done this research!
@@USAF1209 can say the same cause he did use the wrong card u need a ch sn 530 not a pc one it is known! The size part I didn't even care about after that cause it was never going to work even if it was 250 gb
I'd say I'm shocked that Microsoft spent money to make us pay more to only them for an inferior product but I'm not, I think consoles are starting to struggle and console players are getting harmed by its death throws.
I literally took my hard drive out of my Xbox one which was one terabyte. I bought an off the shelf laptop HDD another terabyte and my Xbox itself has 500 GB I’m not understanding what the problem is. if I got a multiple terabyte drive all I gotta do is plug it into the back of the Xbox the same way I have my laptop HDD’s in series 2.5 T this looks like a case of the Xbox 360. When you cracked open the Xbox 360 hard drive it was a regular HDD. with the proprietary plug in between the machine and the hard drive all you had to do was swap in a bigger hard drive into that device. It’s the same thing today. Nothing has changed you don’t need superfast NVESD storage just get a 20 TB.
Use one Xbox to each game, but, this dont Work with flight simulator, because This game use more than 1tb, when you update all scenary and install new faetures. We need a Hack urgent.
Of course 64 GB didn't work Microsoft says on their own website that expandable storage has to be at least 128 GB
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@@THgaming1985 I hate these bots that keep putting scam comments on almost every video on TH-cam.
Duh....
Yeah common sense don’t mean shit lol
Yes it does I have 2 64gb USB drives won't work either. You need 128gb and need the correct ssd to run new optimization to s or x series.
Also the reason why this took so long to work is because your Xbox is looking for a certain baud rate if your drive does not communicate the data fast enough your Xbox will assume that it has a weak connection to the storage device and I think you're right the drive itself is fast enough but the adapter itself cannot interpret the data efficiently
Great way to explain it 💯💯
I use my 4TB Seagate external hardrive for a ps4 for my series X and it works perfectly!
Thank god that someone tried it bc I have a 2tb for ps4 thanks u very much 🙏 ❤
Of course it did, there's nothing special about console-branded hard drives. You can't play true gen9/scarlet games off of anything that doesn't plug into flash expansion slot (or the internal drive).
I wouldn't buy Seagate for anything now seeing how greedy they are.
That’s a miracle, the Seagate external hard drives are trash teir, I have had 2 die on me in the past 5 years. First in warranty second one 6 months out of it, and they say planned obsolescence isn’t a thing 🤦🏻♂️
@@Randomguy-os3rz u must bought a bad one I bought one for 68€
I went into my local electronic store. Asked him about a 2tb ssd Seagate. He replied "$720"😳😳😳 thank you for your time sir. I'm going home now
Blk widow 2tb bestbuy oaid 125 best ever spent on holds 100games
bruh I went to a game exchange and got a 4tb Seagate hardrive for $40
@@hoopa8312 mine is a blkwidow
@@hoopa8312 120@bestbuy 2tb
Search up a 2 terabyte hard drive there about 60 bucks
I bought a western digital 5tb external on eBay for 70 bucks and it works flawlessly
Just spend 60 on 2 tb on Amazon for an external. Works perfectly. You may have to move a game here an there between ‘‘em but it literally take 5 minutes for or Valhalla.
lolololol you are a 🤡
That is a HDD not an SSD. Series x games that are specifically made for series x must be stored on an SSD. That option of an HDD external only works for xbox one x or earlier games.
@@countryboyq I use one. And literally explained how it’s done. You may have to move a game from the ext to the internal. But the 5 minutes it takes is a small price to pay considering the 3-5 hundred dollar Ssd you want him to get.
@@AMCKEEL1sorry I may have misunderstood. So you are only storing the game on the external, then you move it to the internal when you want to play it? Is that what you are saying?
@@countryboyq yup. Super fast to do. And as you said. Any game which isn’t an xsx game which is more then you think you can play right off of it. But yes. I fill my int with what I’m playing if something needs moved I move it. Simple as that. Really fast. Like 100gb is 5 minutes. So. Definitely worth my time. Instead of spending that much money on the Ssd that costs the same as our consoles
You just demonstrated exactly WHY I usually end up buying the official stuff anyway. 😂
"We only had to buy these five things, put them together in exactly the right order, format it, plug it in three times, still didn't really work, we got errors, could potentially be harmful.."
Stop. Just stop. I'll pay the crazy high price, just give me an item that works that I can plug in immediately. 😂
Convenience is worth the cost a lot of the time. Tinkering is for hobbies where the fun is in the tinkering itself. When it comes to gaming.
Well. We know where the fun in that is
EXACTLY my thought! 😂😂
like give me convenience over all that money and time spent to try and get an unofficial storage device to work
A sheep is born every minute
@@dmadking3817 says the sheep
Just a shame your paying 3X what the drives worth going the official route.
I still think they should have made at least to ports for the expansion card
Agreed. 2 ports would be ideal for transferring data.
When they make these consoles they try to make them as cheap as possible without it actually being cheap. Every console is sold at a loss so I’m not surprised they didn’t add multiple of the same port besides usb obviously. Just my opinion
I was just thinking that
Agreed
They should make they break up thing, like they have with plugs or usb, you put one in the slot and it'll be a lil brick that will have 2 slots for the cards
I literally bought some random 600gb drive from Amazon for like $40 and plugged it in and it works perfectly fine idk why y’all guys are spending $100 just for 512 💀
You cant play any X|S enhanced games unless its an ssd
It’s not the same
you can just keep games on the flash drive and transfer them over to your xbox
@@jamanijohnson8963yeah and wait 20 minutes every time you want to play something. I think this is the biggest problem we’re going to have going forward with consoles.
I got a 3 tb storage for 60 bucks n works fine
The error could be a red herring. Try messing with the cluster size when formatting. This has been an issue in other systems because they had a very specific cluster size. Sounds weird but it has helped in the past. Depending on your skill level, reflowing any soldered parts in the adapter is never a bad idea either.
Very cool video, keep trying storage hacks. Frigging fascinating 👏
Back in the day all you had to do was pick up a 2.5 hdd formated right and just drop it back into your 360 slim
These SSD adapters work fine in my experience. You guys seem to have put the wrong SSD in it. They only work with either CH SN530 or XA1 SSD drives (not the SN520 you tried in it or even a standard SN530). These two working options are PCIe 4.0 cards.
estas en lo correcto. yo tambien tengo el mismo adaptador con el SSD CH SN530
Really? Hmm.will you be able to play games off of said expanded SSD you mentioned in your post?
@@jedimojojojo1603 yup.
@@XL3BIGDrizzy nice! I've seen one on eBay, 1tb, will that work? It's the XA1
Can confirm it works with the SN530
It's probably a good guess that it's the adapter but it's still early on so I'm sure in the future there will be functional models. Probably not on wish though.
I got my 1tb expansion card for £150 from CEX store, kept my internal memory free (all on exp card) and also have an external SSD for games that aren't S/X compatible, MS must have locked out everything else except Seagate from the internal memory/system and the card, makes sense why your one didn't work, because the card has to sync to the XB, would have been a great option tho.
I believe they have a exclusivity contract with them at the moment
Thanks for the info Mark. Yeah retail prices are a joke for these but 150 sounds ok used. I’m going to go hit up CEX then I guess
The fact that these have a limited amount of read cycles that dictate their life span means you should never buy a used SSD that's like buying a used battery
The adapter for psvita isn't for their proprietary memory card, it's called SD2VITA and its for modded vita's only, it actually goes into the game card slot and you can use it alongside a vita memory card
My personal slim vita has a 128gb micro SD inside an SD2VITA adapter alongside a 32gb vita memory card
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Man, in my Vita craze phase I splurged 90 euros to import a 64gigs memory card from japan, and it was still cheaper than buying it from european sellers. Few years late I too went with a SD2VITA adapter and never looked back ❤
From what I saw, Xbox needs a drive with PCIe Gen4 to work as intended. I saw on the beggining of the video that you are using a WD Blue PC SN520, and the PC SN520 is Gen3. In theory, if you look for the CH SN530 should work as the original Seagate card.
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THIS^ i ordered a similar housing/adapter from amazon but you have to make sure its a “CH” sn530 and it works flawlessly on my xbox
@@J4CKM0N those really DO work? I'm going to have to check this out
Use a hairdryer on your controller with the master chief sticker, it will remove the bubbles!
They should bring back the SSD card to plug in the controller it would great and then you plug and play with friends on there consoles with your own settings ......needs to happen
That would only work on wired controllers and even then it would need to be at least USB 3.2 to not be a major bottleneck. Bluetooth is just too slow for data transfer.
Would be better off adding USB 4 to future SKUs and allowing fast enough USB drives to be used as an alternative to the CFX cards.
anyone remembers the Dreamcast memory thingy that kinda looked like a miniature game boy and you could plug it into a Dreamcast controller?
The 64 GB card out of a steam deck is an SSD, SSD stands for solid state drive, nvme card, it just uses EMMC over pcie 2X1 instead of SLC/MLC/TLC over pcie 4x4,
So it didn't work because it didn't support the right PCIe version, do not support enough pcie lanes, didn't meet xboxs minimum storage reqiurments and was too slow,
All in all it's not hard to find things that work you just have to make sure you're using compatible flash drives
!!!! people love tech and are so ignorant of it, thank you for this comment, as someone who thought this immediately, it's a shame to see so many "tech savvy guys" not know anything 🤦♂️
I use a WD HD...Western digital hard drive 6TB..... I use that for all xbox one /oneX/ 360 games. Works great. £60 UK pounds.... WD my passport.... Sorry quick edit.. I use it on my xbox one X & series X.
Bobby, does the Western Digital 6TB hard drive work for Series X games, or just Xbox/Xbox 360/Xbox One games? Thanks man. Deciding between getting PS5 and Series X.
This was very interesting to watch. Thanks guys! :D
you can still use the new ssd with the usb adapter and just plug it in the xbox usb port. It will work like an external drive for the older games but faster cause its ssd.
It HAS to be a Seagate CH SN530 model m.2 SSD or a Western digital CH SN530. Has to be CH model of the sn530 models
One thing I reeeeally like about the ps5 is the super easy way to use a m.2 ssd for storage, just pop the cover off and put it in
The prices for the 513gb and 1TB are pretty close in price to the M.2 options for the PS5 of which there is a fair amount of competition. I don’t think competition is going to lower the prices much-if at all.
It will in the long term. Right now you can't tell because the tech market is wonky thanks to shortages, but in normal situations it should make a difference
I got my 1tb wd ssd for my ps5 for 140. 154 after tax.
@@kingkwad129 I got my 1tb Seagate for 182$ after tax, so it is pretty close in price. Albeit my Seagate was on sale for holiday season though.😎✌
The lower the price, the more sales they make, the more money they make.
@@JuanDiaz-jo1rw not always
@XboxReady
The SSD you are using is the PC sn530, its PCIe Gen3x4.
The SSD in the xbox is the CH sn530, its PCIe Gen4x4 and it has a security layer,
the reason you are getting the poor connection message is that the console cannot use the PCIe Gen4x4 protocol to communicate and has to revert to the slower gen 3 pci speeds which cannot support the DirectStorage APIs for Xbox Series X|S consoles.
Ok Ray, you convinced me to buy an official SSD.
Xbox series S and Series X use a SSD that's not soldered to the board unlike the PS5 where the SSD is soldered to the board, if you could clone the original software from your original SSD or reinstall the software onto new SSD you could upgrade your Xbox to a bigger capacity SSD on your Series S or series X,
Ps5 is also alot faster, and supports non proprietary ssd expansion upto 7gb/s so....
@@sicgamer9303 source: trust me bro
@@sicgamer9303 eh wont see much difference anyway. they dont implement ps5 ssd speed in most games so..
@@sicgamer9303 which are just Gen4 speeds lmfao
So I have actually been looking into this as an option for months but still the cost of a ssd that’s worth throwing in it when all is said an done is only like 40$ cheaper.
Same deal with me.. I am not sure if I have even seen that much of a price difference. It's relatively pointless for me
@@thatdrewguy9098 well my thing is if I’m going to do it I’m atleast gonna use a 2tb. So In the end of just go an buy the sea gate lol
Yeah, I thought about a workaround and ended up getting the Seagate 2TB for £360 if was the right decision no fuss:P
Love your vids man, dor real i do. But maybe get an over head cam for stuff like this.. im hands on learning.. an that would help me alot idk about everyone else.. but i think it be worth it specially with projects like this.
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I just use an external SSD and just move back and forth. Transfer super fast 2Gb per second. So 100 GB moved in 5 min
If you have storage issues this might help: i bought a 2tb card (ik expensive as hell but worth it) i put ONLY series x/s games on it and i have external sea gates for my xbox one and 360 games, so i have 3tb just for x/s games and i have 9 tb for everything else, and if i run outta internal storage (which will be hard cause i have like every game on game pass, plus more installed and still have storage) ill just put my most played x/s games internally stored and move my games when i wanna play which dont take long. I have two new 4 tb seagate external hard drives only for xbox one / extra x/s games and an old white seagate for all my old games for anyone wondering, it works well i dont have problems with storage anymore and i play alotta games, and yes every usb slot is being used lol
Edit: i know theres bigger external xbox drives out there but i just got the two 4 tb drives cause it was just convenient for me at the time
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that expandable storage does work. i have a sn530 1tb. and it only worked with that. o yeah, and you have to convert it to MRB before installing it on series S/X with no issue what so ever. i think maybe the problem could be the format or the storage size.
Do you have the links?
Cokehead comes in 4:48 🤣
What a character 🥳
Me: puts in 14tb ssd in
I want that t-shirt!! "Valley of the Pagans", sounds like a mid-to-late ''60's movie.
I got my 1Tb seagate card for my Series X for 160€ on Amazon. Stay vigilant and you could get the card at nice prices.
Well it is looking like Western Digital is now going to start making storage expansions drives for the Series X and S. Which should force seagate to drop the price on their drives. Hope this is the case even though I already have a 2TB external expansions drive for my Series X.
All you need to do is buy any hdd or ssd and format it to your Xbox and it'll work, I currently use a 2tb on my series X that I got for $50
Doesn't work for X/S games. But I'm not bothered just switching the games around from ext to int when I want to play different ones. Doesn't take that long.
@@jamestabbron8124 that's exactly what I do
@@Slayers_Gaming_And_Reddits exactly man waiting like 5 mins to move a game is nothing, just make a coffee or a tea while I wait I'm not fussed.
Yeah it's better if you can play them all without moving, but is it £200 better... Nah
You don't have to buy the Seagate just you can get a regular 4tb for PC and format it xbox they'recheaper too less than $100
How do you do that
6:27 the reason for this error is because the series x is trying to run the app off the chip.
If you copy or move the app to the xbox it will work
I dont think its the adapter
I think it could be software based that the Seagate is hard coded into the OS hardware expansion slot. would need to rip the hidden files off the Seagate expansion card & clone over to a new m.2 drive with same requirements as the Seagate card to create a m.2 clone.
So like how you used unofficial hard drives on unmodded Xbox 360s
I just heard a old minecraft song and now im buying xbox 360 minecraft to play it once again 😢 i remember when i used to play it every day when the old music and tutorial was still there im so happy xbox lets you play old games
Console gaming is awesome for maximum performance for minimal expense.
At this point, you can get into an entry level gaming laptop with more storage, better performance, and equal compatibility to Series X.
I’m an Xbox FanBoi. I love my box. But, PC/Xbox hybrid (buy a PC, use an Xbox Controller and GamePass Ultimate) is really the only way to go.
It rotates in and out of stock but Costco sells seagates without the extra branding on it. I got 2TB for $80.
this is how you stretch 2 minutes of information into a 12 minute video
I'm 1:38 in and closing the video because of this comment. Thanks for the heads up big dawg!
My big issue is that I want WAY more than currently offered... I'd love to have a 4TB internal, as well as a 4TB expansion. Considering how close to filled my current 3TB setup on my Series X is, and how many more games I want to add, I'm sure you can understand my desire for massive amounts of space.
When y'all get it all figured out so I can get the drive sizes I desire, please post the video asap!
@@AngerMaker413 Series S/X games will not load from external, that's the problem.
@@vitalsignscritical yes they do lol. I used my external that had games on it from my old Xbox and when I got my series x I plugged it in and could play the games immediately.
@@vitalsignscritical and if that doesn’t work, you can download them onto the external and simply just move it to your internal when you want to play it. I have series x games downloaded onto my hard drive and they still open, but that’s a second solution
@@AngerMaker413 That's because they are Xbox One or 360/xbox og backward compatability games, but game only on Series S/X will only play on Internal or seagate drives, otherwise even if they do play they'll be misssing the savestates/session and quick resume feature as that is only achiveable on those NVMe SSD's.
Also I know you can dowload and move to play though I don't really se this as a solid solution as you have to move it over and you need space to move it over, which means you always need to keep space avialble if you want to move something which managing is a rather logistical problem and additionaly in this case you not actually maximising the use of space for availible games you can readily play at any given time. If a product like this actually worked it could offer up potential for better value in super fast mass game/app compatable storage.
@@vitalsignscritical I see what you’re saying, sorry. I misunderstood.
As for the solution, I understand it’s not the most convenient but it’s a lot better than paying $200 for it, especially if you can’t afford it. Why on earth Microsoft launched the consoles and allowed the manufacturer to completely control the price, who knows.
Also my question is why don’t regular ssd externals work?
Thank god I found this vid because I almost went down this internal expansion card road. Phew. I’ll just buy the actual thing and eat the price. 2 years after this vid posted and the situation is still the same lol.
I got a 1 tb play station memory drive in my xbox series x from game exchange for $20 🤷🏾
Good video. As I watched it my thoughts lead me to conclude that, Wish the company, may have decided on their name by thinking, "Our customers are going to Wish they would have just paid for the quality product, made by the reputable company."and then they looked at each other and chuckled.
I just walked on down to the Walmart and bought a 4 TB Seagate storage and formatted it for my original Xbox One. Works pretty good but sometimes I have crashing if too much is going on running off of the Seagate like music and Game Pass and online gaming and all that but if I'm just playing a game and in a party it's not that big of a deal it can handle it pretty well
This is for the Series X expandable storage port
That's fine for xbox one x but not series x games. They must be stored on SSD not an HDD. The size of the games becomes an issue if you have them all installed on the series x internal 1tb storage. Some of these games are well over 100gb. I don't know about you but I own a lot of xbox games and those being updated for series x will fill my internal drive if I download them all. So basically I spend a ton of money for more storage space, only have games I currently play regularly installed, or find a storage option like these guys are trying to do.
All my friends refused to buy a series x because of the ssd issue. I wish I had gone with playstation now :(
I wished they would have kept the hdmi in port for the One Guide to plug the cable box or other things in. I loved it.
That play they took during the Xbox one era literally almost killed the brand.
@@TruFire710 yea but it’s a feature many of us loved.
@@TruFire710 having the feature didn’t almost kill the brand just giving tv and features other than gaming so much focus almost killed the brand. I loved the hdmi in port.
@@Jpilgrim30 microsoft: xbox should integrate with the rest of your TV system
Gamers: 😡😡😡🤬🤬😤😤
@@TruFire710 what's the excuse for getting rid of the optical input??? How does being able to plug in ur cable box to ur xbox almost ruin the brand??? U should be a lil more detailed then just spewing out nonsense
Got my 1 tb hard drive for my xbox. Yes it’s expensive but worth it. Having 1.2 tb left for games after having warzone 2, destiny, forza. Maste chief collections as the big downloads and some other little games it helps a lot
Thanks for making this vid!
Why donot they make a usb adapter to a Memory expansion slot??????.
2022 20tb HD external for Xbox from Walmart is $559.99 for a 2022 20tb Enterprise Hard Drives
Exos X20 Hard 668.99
You should try magnetizing your screwdrivers, or get already magnetic ones
sounds complicated but all I do is hook up an old 1 tera drive that was faulty and starting to fail on my computer to a usb hard drive docking station and boom more space.
im a bit late. but I have a seagate 2TB external hard drive for my Xbox one, would that still not work on the series X/S? the thing was 80$ comparatively.
The WD_Black expansion card is $150 for a terabyte of game storage which isn’t bad
Same thing happens sometimes when my series X doesn’t power off right just restart the console and it works for me
Oh we got a problem Houston! You have to format your drive with windows 11 in ntfs, because win10 make 2 partitions into a gpt recognizable drive at 'windows 10' start up... soooooo... format with ps5... and mount a ntfs with windows 11 ;)
It is the drive u have the wrong one! Not blue! Only 2230 m.2 ch530 it is worth it I bought the old school adapter and the correct m.2 drive and it works perfectly! No errors.
Theoretically hell they work but u need a specific nVme m.2 ssd card. A wd 2230 ch 530 1tb works.
Not pc those do not work.
I would still buy the official ssd but im pretty ok with the series x storage space. Also un/installing is much faster with an ssd.
It seems pointless to spend $200 if you know your going to get expansible storage no matter what . Then just wait and buy the series x or buy one online used in great condition that way you get a disc drive and comes with extra storage also
You could get the adapter on Amazon now
Thank the gods for Western Digital!
Shortly after buying my xbox one i found a 10 tb external Seagate hard drive for 150 at best buy on sale it has worked with no issues other than the wire got messed up at some point in which i had to replace it but other than that i have 11 tbs for my Xbox one s
And that affects the series x systems how ? Yeah doesn
U can only have 8tb max bro? 💀💀
It means you can use all 10 tb for the xbox one 360n and even original xbox and use the 1 tb it comes with for your xbox series x games
You guys should keep trying to figure it out something that works right the first time id be interested cuz that $240 is just crazy
You do realize that they sell these adapters on Amazon, right? So why would you order it off Wish and wait months for delivery?
I couldn't be bothered to mess around with the adapter and find a drive that worked. I found the 1TB genuine card on eBay brand new for £120 so wasn't terrible.
Good
At the very beginning you talked about Seagate's proprietary deal with Microsoft for expandable Xbox storage, so how did you seriously not know some flimsy adapter from Wish wouldn't work? I swear to God this is a Justin Flom video.
It doesn't work because Xbox is using proprietary tech on the ssd. It allows the console to access the data in a different way than on a standard ssd. They announced 2 or 3 years ago that this new tech would be coming to PC but didn't specify a release date. It will require a chipset update or possibly a whole new chipset for PC motherboards to properly recognize them. This is why a standard ssd won't work and why Xbox chose the slot connector to prevent people from using incompatible ssds.
Only thing it requires on the hardware side is pcie gen 4 over nvme protocol, the magic sauce is in the software using SSD as scratch space for hardware accelerated texture compiling.
The only difference between an xbox ssd and pc ssd is the firmware and the fact that it uses 2 lanes instead of 4. As long as the firmware checks out and the drive can hit a fast enough speed when restricted to 2 lanes it will work. There's no proprietary hardware, even the expansion slot is CFE (NVME in the form of a CF card) and just uses a custom card as the only compatible one.
Throughout the generations of xbox. The firmware needed to be specific for any compatible hdd to work. Xbox 360, needed a firmware to make the hdd builds to work. Same with thr xbox one through one x. All need a firmware flash to work. I speculate this is not any different.
You mean you can split partition a drive that gets used as xbox game storage? 10:10
How? I record a lot of game clips on my series x and I have a 64GB flash drive to take all my screenshots and clips.
If I knew of a way I could split off say 250GB from my 4TB game HDD and just send screenshots and captures to that, it would make my life a heap easier
I have a 4TB external hard drive that was alot cheaper and yes it's a Sea Gate I haven't had any problems with it
we need 100TB storage readily available with game file sizes these days.
So my setup is I have a 1tb seagate memory card (that is what it is pretty much) with the 8tb external storage game hub. So any games I play that is series x are in the memory card, while any games I don't play are in the hub along with the Xbox One, and 360 games
It's not worth trying to use these adapters when you can get the official one for about the same price.
I got the official 1tb seagate from ebay for £130, you just need to be patience to find one at the right price.
I had the same weak connection with an actual sea gate 2Tb right out of the box unplugged it and plugged it back in and it’s worked fine since…
So can't no other company copy the tech & make a cheaper option ?
I have a 5 tb external hard drive and two 2tb external hard drive hooked into my series s works fine they use to be in my One x no problem why does everyone think you have to use 1st party products on Xbox? Your Xbox can format the storage for you...
Something works with external SSDs
Because those drives can’t play S/X enhanced games and the only SSD drives are the ones made by seagate. Your old external drives can only play Xbox one games and/or non-enhanced games.
I don't personally use the Samsung drives but I got a sea gate that's way more worth it then the Xbox one it holds 6 terabytes of storage so any Xbox one games and shit won't have any problems losing space
The drive isn't proprietary (it's Compact Flash Express), it's just the only one that works in the xbox, it's like calling the PS5 m.2 slot proprietary for only supporting gen4 SSDs.
You can actually get a CFE to M.2 adapter and use an SSD from a Series console as an expandable storage card and it will work fine.
It’s a sata gen 4 chipset using a compact flash connector.
The internals are an off brand of ssd used inside of the Xbox series x or s.
@@kukeM0n5ter so just repeating the original comment then
@@damiendye6623 I was clarifying a little more. The OG xbox drive upgrade is a compact flash connector however the hardware inside is just a gen 4 nvme drive. Using this adapter will work but you need the actual ssd that is used inside the Xbox. Whatever models those are. The WD 530 I think will work as well but I can’t think of the exact model off the top of my head because this was a while back.
The reason the 64Gb wouldn't work is because Xbox won't recognize any drives smaller than 250Gb. They are the same way when it comes to using Any external drives.
No he used the wrong SSD he kept saying compatible when he uses a pc sn 530 and not the ch sn530 which is what is needed
@@wolfbrother9025 Look up Drive Requirement sizes for Xbox before telling them they are wrong.....Once again Size Matters! The Xbox Will Not Allow Any HDD/SDD/Flash Drive under 250gb.....I've tried and already done this research!
@@USAF1209 can say the same cause he did use the wrong card u need a ch sn 530 not a pc one it is known! The size part I didn't even care about after that cause it was never going to work even if it was 250 gb
I once connected a external drive to my xbox one and the left USB stopped working.
I'd say I'm shocked that Microsoft spent money to make us pay more to only them for an inferior product but I'm not, I think consoles are starting to struggle and console players are getting harmed by its death throws.
what about take an expansion card apart and upgrade that ssd in there
That denim jacket though!
I literally took my hard drive out of my Xbox one which was one terabyte. I bought an off the shelf laptop HDD another terabyte and my Xbox itself has 500 GB I’m not understanding what the problem is. if I got a multiple terabyte drive all I gotta do is plug it into the back of the Xbox the same way I have my laptop HDD’s in series 2.5 T this looks like a case of the Xbox 360. When you cracked open the Xbox 360 hard drive it was a regular HDD. with the proprietary plug in between the machine and the hard drive all you had to do was swap in a bigger hard drive into that device. It’s the same thing today. Nothing has changed you don’t need superfast NVESD storage just get a 20 TB.
Hi I actually have a 4tb Seagate external HDD for my games that aren’t series games
What about the Hack Box?
What ball crap just use a laptop hd in a caddy on usb it works fine I use it with 45 games on it
Where in the world are people paying $3-400 for a 2TB external drive? I paid like $100 and you can get them cheaper then that. At least in Canada.
Slow ones.....lol
Use one Xbox to each game, but, this dont Work with flight simulator, because This game use more than 1tb, when you update all scenary and install new faetures. We need a Hack urgent.
I mean you could just skip all this and use a external hard drive...
Can't run next gen games from external drives
@@slrhodes Old gen**