Poor Elrond saw both his sons die before he too fell before the Orc horde. The Dream of the Last Homely House has turned into a nightmare and the West begins to burn. Who can stem the Tide?
idea for campain objectives take all the dwarf or formerly dwarf montain holds for example gundabad, kazad' dum, northern ered luin mountains, dains halls and of course goblin town
It was smart to neutralize the high elves. I have a feeling you're gonna do some diplomatic shenanigans to keep war on one side of the misty mountains.
I say to defend Khazadum you should base it entirely off of your two artillery pieces the ballista and the flam wrangler. To hold the dwarves in place I suggest having one pure melee unit and fill the rest with your faction leader and a horde of snaga skirmishers because you'll need the ranged units to hold until the Ballista and flame wrangler ammo runs out or the timer runs out.
@@epmtotalwar I think that holding them at the bridge would be best because the Ballista can kill them effectively. The usual troops are managable, but the real issue are three units the two dragon slayer units(the normal unit and I think one of the generals have a bodyguard of dragon slayers) and Balin's guard as well as the two or three tier two units. I say that for optimum performance you should limit the amount of units being killed. The dwarves are only killing five or six goblins at the bridge, but could be fighting 10 or twleve goblins at a time allowing them to kill off units faster at one time.
This episode felt like the Enedwaith guerrilla war against Isengard but with even worse troops. I was expecting you to start rich and be able to spam away but I suppose roving bands of gobbos picking off small enemy stacks is thematic.
Xbows, MO Hunters, and Halberds and Wargs of all sizes will be your saviors in this one. I'm sure you will get things sorted out and excited to see how the first 80 turns go.
Hahahaha, I love the start of this one. I agree with everything you said so far. It's a shame, bc the Orcs could be much more fun to play as with some updated stronger units. There is a MOD update for DAC that has a ton of extra units added (some from the "Reforged" mod -- it adds a ton of flavor to a good bit of the factions) -- this is important to make each faction more fun & have interest.
@jessel8833 I don't like the EUR mod, it removes vunerabilities which removes uniqueness of factions. I think all the factions are well balanced for units. It is more that as the human player you can't really do the Goblin swarm thing as intended.
I think once you get over your initial disgust and survive the dwarf attack you will find the goblins a fun campaign. with just a little economy, some calv and a LOT of meat shields you will be able to take a lot of land and just swarm enemies.
@@epmtotalwar, you have multiple armies on the field and have only built 1 economic building. Once you have all those unions you can spam out so many terrible units
So I remember you talking about a diplomat in your way. You can kill them, just surround every tile, and have a unit march to their tile so they have no movement. Unless info again, it's a waste of movement unless you want to kill all the wizards as a evil faction
definitely hold east against the elves once the dwarves are dealt with (ballistae ruin them on the bridge). then its an idea to get the best garrison building, then build up your archery range to get get crossbows to shoot the elves while the garrison holds them in place on the bridge so you can shoot the clusters
Maybe Warg pack is skilled against mounts because in theory they're biting the horses...and the riders...have a rider, and thus the warg mount doesnt bite but the gobbo just stabs? IDK.... lolol
You have a chance to hold cameth brin, when a city rebels usually population dies as well, maybe it needs just that small umpgh for the population to lower for it to be easier to hold.
i hope you will play with them like they play as AI allways so attacking everybody around you sooner or later :) i dont remember when i see last time somebody play as Moria so this will be interesting to watch...
Impossible to play as the AI, this is discussed at length in the video. If I could spam out units like they can, I would. In terms of betrayals, I sense there may be some of them at some point.
@BeregondFirstCaptain I don't think so, I don't remember having to defeat a defilers unit early bit I could be misremembering. Based on how other factions start it would be entirely in keeping with the mod to give him defilers. A single high tier unit to give you a taste of the late game.
@epmtotalwar ill have to go look at ligzids playthrough with them. It was 4.5, and it could have been his weird, souther start with Goblins. I don't think he did ago either.
Also, you're commenting on the AI's troops lasting much longer than you morale-wise. Isn't that like, the only difference in this era of Total War? I know for a fact in Rome, the higher difficulty AI get large morale boosts as the only notable difference. Later TW games, they changed it so that instead of just increasing the morale when increasing the difficulty, they also made the AI better (that's a lie, the AI isn't improved in any way, they just made it even worse on lower difficulties). Oh, and boosting literally every stat rather than just morale, but difficulty totally should mean that anyway, right?.... Right? (I'm joking if that isn't clear, nothing pisses me off more than AI just getting cheats to increase the difficulty rather than yknow, making a decent damn AI to challenge the player fairly. Looking at you Civilization).
I don't mind the moral boost, I think that is probably the only 'fair' ai cheat, but when wargs who supposedly scare horses can be fully surrounding a merchant cav who has terrible morale and the army is only led by a captain and those merchant cav almost fight to the last man there is a problem with that particular warg interaction. Just another reason for the evil spam factions to feel weaker in the hands of the player.
Meat's back on the menu bois
The goblintide has begun, black the skies with arrows and the grounds with UNIONS!
Poor Elrond saw both his sons die before he too fell before the Orc horde. The Dream of the Last Homely House has turned into a nightmare and the West begins to burn. Who can stem the Tide?
@@AkodoAkira1 I'm guessing everyone, no one really likes the goblins.
Never played the Gobblins, never will, look forward to your play through, better you than me.
I feel like this will be a common theme.
I’ve seen one playthrough with Moria on AGO and it was rough. You play smart and in my opinion have had a great first episode. Fun to watch!
Thinking about goblin campaign with disgust, but didn't expect how much I want to watch it.
So glad you're doing this. I've been stumped around how to make this work.
Well, I'm in the think tank for this one.
@@epmtotalwar The issue I keep finding is that there is so little you can do if they unify their initial army.
@tropicthunder131 just have to force them to split up, give them some tasty snaga to get tempted by and have your warg centred army ready to pounce.
idea for campain objectives
take all the dwarf or formerly dwarf montain holds for example gundabad, kazad' dum, northern ered luin mountains, dains halls and of course goblin town
I'm thinking of having the whole misty mountains for starters and going from there.
Dont leave out Buzra-Dum
This is probably the fastest I've liked one of your videos. This is going to be a slog, and I get to watch it instead of playing it thank god
It was smart to neutralize the high elves. I have a feeling you're gonna do some diplomatic shenanigans to keep war on one side of the misty mountains.
@@ezrahendog5837 At least for a while
This series is already so awesome. I love the unique challenge.
I say to defend Khazadum you should base it entirely off of your two artillery pieces the ballista and the flam wrangler. To hold the dwarves in place I suggest having one pure melee unit and fill the rest with your faction leader and a horde of snaga skirmishers because you'll need the ranged units to hold until the Ballista and flame wrangler ammo runs out or the timer runs out.
@peterhe6699 I think the gobbos can do their bit if I make their whole army exhausted and fight uphill.
@@epmtotalwar I think that holding them at the bridge would be best because the Ballista can kill them effectively. The usual troops are managable, but the real issue are three units the two dragon slayer units(the normal unit and I think one of the generals have a bodyguard of dragon slayers) and Balin's guard as well as the two or three tier two units. I say that for optimum performance you should limit the amount of units being killed. The dwarves are only killing five or six goblins at the bridge, but could be fighting 10 or twleve goblins at a time allowing them to kill off units faster at one time.
This episode felt like the Enedwaith guerrilla war against Isengard but with even worse troops. I was expecting you to start rich and be able to spam away but I suppose roving bands of gobbos picking off small enemy stacks is thematic.
@solinvictus2197 I expected to start rich too. Had to change my mindset from spam to be omega strategic with gobbos.
Xbows, MO Hunters, and Halberds and Wargs of all sizes will be your saviors in this one. I'm sure you will get things sorted out and excited to see how the first 80 turns go.
Hahahaha, I love the start of this one. I agree with everything you said so far. It's a shame, bc the Orcs could be much more fun to play as with some updated stronger units. There is a MOD update for DAC that has a ton of extra units added (some from the "Reforged" mod -- it adds a ton of flavor to a good bit of the factions) -- this is important to make each faction more fun & have interest.
@jessel8833 I don't like the EUR mod, it removes vunerabilities which removes uniqueness of factions. I think all the factions are well balanced for units. It is more that as the human player you can't really do the Goblin swarm thing as intended.
A day we thought we would never happen....
EPM FINALLY succumbs to the trash!!!!!!
I think once you get over your initial disgust and survive the dwarf attack you will find the goblins a fun campaign. with just a little economy, some calv and a LOT of meat shields you will be able to take a lot of land and just swarm enemies.
I'm underwhelmed with the economic situation.
@@epmtotalwar, you have multiple armies on the field and have only built 1 economic building. Once you have all those unions you can spam out so many terrible units
the madmans only gone and done it
Good luck
Black pit crossbow, mountain uruks and black pit halbeards will be spamed
I love the goblins!
So I remember you talking about a diplomat in your way. You can kill them, just surround every tile, and have a unit march to their tile so they have no movement. Unless info again, it's a waste of movement unless you want to kill all the wizards as a evil faction
Yeah, I know you can do this, they auto move out of the way when moving troops so no real point, just if you want to remove that pesky Radagast.
YAY! Goblin Pain!
definitely hold east against the elves once the dwarves are dealt with (ballistae ruin them on the bridge). then its an idea to get the best garrison building, then build up your archery range to get get crossbows to shoot the elves while the garrison holds them in place on the bridge so you can shoot the clusters
@darkpenguin7277 I'd like to get the upgraded mines before that but I'm not sure if it's too greedy. Guess we'll see.
@epmtotalwar you should have time to get the mines im sure
Maybe Warg pack is skilled against mounts because in theory they're biting the horses...and the riders...have a rider, and thus the warg mount doesnt bite but the gobbo just stabs? IDK.... lolol
Maybe it's just something I've never understood and camels (wargs) have never had a bonus and only scare. I really thought they had a bonus.
Swarm Swarm SWARM!!!!!
You have a chance to hold cameth brin, when a city rebels usually population dies as well, maybe it needs just that small umpgh for the population to lower for it to be easier to hold.
It's a shame I'm not able to make the stream more! This is a campaign where it'd be all too fitting to rename Goblin Town something like Detroit 😂
Also just an fyi I think the dwarves come around turn 26 in a forced attack
So annoying I havent been getting the chance to catch these live
Btw use ballista for the defence of khazad dum one Turn 28
Yes gobos !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i hope you will play with them like they play as AI allways so attacking everybody around you sooner or later :) i dont remember when i see last time somebody play as Moria so this will be interesting to watch...
Impossible to play as the AI, this is discussed at length in the video. If I could spam out units like they can, I would. In terms of betrayals, I sense there may be some of them at some point.
Currently doing a goblin campaign myself. I’m thinking about quitting or restarting because I’m just not having fun with it lol
I think if you don't get off to a good start it could get very unfun very fast. There is potential I think for some enjoyment.
I think it would be cool to try and control all the mountains
I would like to have all the Misty Mountains. Going for all the mountains on the map basically means beating everyone.
Does that include Isengard itself by any chance? :p
@@Aldonoth It is the southern tip...
Oh snap!!
In 4.6, didn't the warg general start with Defilers? Him just having wargs seems like a nerf for a faction that just plain sucks to play.
@BeregondFirstCaptain I don't think so, I don't remember having to defeat a defilers unit early bit I could be misremembering. Based on how other factions start it would be entirely in keeping with the mod to give him defilers. A single high tier unit to give you a taste of the late game.
@epmtotalwar ill have to go look at ligzids playthrough with them. It was 4.5, and it could have been his weird, souther start with Goblins. I don't think he did ago either.
How much money for a Snaga-only world domination run😉
$500 000
Edit: $500 000 as a down payment and another $500 000 when the job is done.
Also, you're commenting on the AI's troops lasting much longer than you morale-wise. Isn't that like, the only difference in this era of Total War? I know for a fact in Rome, the higher difficulty AI get large morale boosts as the only notable difference. Later TW games, they changed it so that instead of just increasing the morale when increasing the difficulty, they also made the AI better (that's a lie, the AI isn't improved in any way, they just made it even worse on lower difficulties). Oh, and boosting literally every stat rather than just morale, but difficulty totally should mean that anyway, right?.... Right?
(I'm joking if that isn't clear, nothing pisses me off more than AI just getting cheats to increase the difficulty rather than yknow, making a decent damn AI to challenge the player fairly. Looking at you Civilization).
I don't mind the moral boost, I think that is probably the only 'fair' ai cheat, but when wargs who supposedly scare horses can be fully surrounding a merchant cav who has terrible morale and the army is only led by a captain and those merchant cav almost fight to the last man there is a problem with that particular warg interaction. Just another reason for the evil spam factions to feel weaker in the hands of the player.
Yeah... moria is giga bad balanced for players :s
well roundedly terrible more like.