I will never understand why they insist on producing Belloq exclusively in the outfit he wore in only one very specific scene, a scene in which he didn’t interact with Indy at all. His Cairo suit would’ve made much more sense as a representative look.
Same issue with the 6 inch line too, put Cairo Belloq in an overpriced two pack with Brody. Kenner made ceremonial robe Belloq as a mail-away for a reason.
Unfortunately Hasbro probably didn't feel the line had any lasting value to toy sales so they just did enough to satisfy their deal with Disney. If Disney had actually planned to continue making movies based on the franchise then Hasbro might have made new figures with better design. Disney probably wasn't that interested in the line anyway and Hasbro was just making sure Disney didn't try to use a different toy company.
Exactly! They made Belloq with .... Marcus of all people when if he's depicted in arc showdown they should have made German soldier disguise Indy lord knows they made most of the line out of Indy variants! 🙄
Hasbro Sucks!!!!!!!!!!! Stan Solo and others are making better products. Hasbro just doesn't care that much. A few consultations and tweaks and this range would've been ok. But make it, ship it, sell it, dump it, next.
Your channel is great. You treat the subject of collecting vintage Toys with respect and reverence. The indy stuff is great as well. Please keep up the good work. by the way i have a 21st century company Sherman tank toy that i rescued specifically because of your channel. thankn you for your hard work.
The lack of a Dietrich, German Soldier or any 'Foot Soldier' across the two lines really displayed a lack of interest given towards 'filling gaps' or even displayability
Well, since you can't even use that "national-socialism-word" online anymore, a major toy company making toys of 1930's military Germans is now nigh impossible. We've become a society of glass snowflakes.
Of you aren't afraid of a little green paint, you can swap out the Indy in German disguise head with a Kenner Star Wars Imperial Officer after painting the hat olive.👍
@@steko9465 I have wanted to do that, the central issue is that the Kenner Raiders figures are hard to find over here in the uk, Ive managed to get an Indy, the map room varient and a Toht but I am on the hunt for a German disguise Indy
I fell asleep and when i woke up your Indy 5 review was playing, and it was about galf way through, watched the rest if it and you have a new subscriber fir life...Gen X for life 🤘
Thank you for the link to the eBay store to get the new accessories! I just got an Indy on clearance and would love to fit the gun into the holster, much less his hand.
As an Indy collector I was excited for these, then they came out saw how bad they were and now there rotting on store shelves. Sound familiar? But least the 80s figures were actually good! Cheap nostalgic ploy Hasbro! Great video as always
As you may already know I'm keeping mine carded, I was very interested to see more from this line as in later waves of some toy lines you occasionally find a gem. In reality I was waiting for a Mola Ram, Willie or Brody? Great video!
@@retroblasting as much as I hate to admit it it’s just hasbro was the only company who could’ve made a full blown Indiana jones line…that or Super7 since there’s no property they won’t turn down.
I was going to say that they probably put minimal effort into lines that only heavy collectors would buy because they know collectors will feel obligated to buy them anyway. However if they are stopping production the market must not be great. Anyway I do think my initial point plays some role.
Putting minimal effort into the lines they know their customers with the most discretionary income have is, by far, the weirdest take I've heard yet in defense of Hasbro. Hasbro is the biggest price gouger in the toy industry. But hey, you are clearly the type that believes what you say is super important and must be true, so enjoy the ride into the ground I guess. The toy industry has officially admitted adults are now their target audience... or don't you read the news?
I'm not defending Hasbro. To me it looks like they are exploiting the loyalty certain collectors have to these characters and the goal of having a complete collection by releasing trash, knowing that these collectors will buy it anyway. It's a terrible long term strategy and bad business practices. You've replied to some strawman that doesn't hold my position and I'm not sure why. I'll chalk it up to a misunderstanding, maybe you run into a lot of Hasbro defenders lol.. I know perfectly well who the target audience is and my post speaks directly to this.
Great video. I still like the retro figures since I don't have any of the originals. One very weird thing I found was that Sallah doesn't have any peg holes in the feet. That is really hard to explain. Every other figure has peg holes.
I wanted these so bad when I was a kid. I remember some rich cousins had everything in the line oh the fun we had I can still remember everything about that day. Thanks for the nostalgia trip
Once again I find myself at worst smiling and at best laughing out loud at one of your videos. As entertainment and informative I love the effort you put into the production. I just hope you continue to enjoy the hobby as much as I enjoy Retroblasting. Thank you.
I've been looking forward to this one. We made all the accessories so big that they don't fit and also to not piss off the Repro Cops which means you wind up buying reproduction accessories anyway. Well done, Hasbro.
After rewatching this, one thing I'd like to throw out there for those that want a stand for retro collection Marion: the only stand I have found that works (kind of) are the stands for Mattel's DC Infinite Heroes figure line from several years ago. The foot peg is just small enough for her feet. I had a clear one that came from a 3 pack I had, just wanted to share for anyone interested.
Fantastic video with some really great kit bashing recommendations. This is why Retroblasting is the go to channel for precise, unbias opinion, factual content and a real desire to improve the collectors experience. Thank you Michael
'Pray. For. DNR monkey.' Excellent as always! I am beginning to wonder how rare the Last Crusade pair are. I have never seen them in a store or at any toy shows. God forbid Hazblow put something on a peg that we could buy.
I loved the retro Indy figures. I had hoped the line continued just for a little while longer so we got some more characters. However, the retro line inspired me to do the job myself. So I used a Temple Of Doom Indy to create a vintage Map Room Indy. And I'm currently working on turning a few others into different characters. I'm having so much fun working on these. I understand that they're not of the same quality as the originals. But I love them.
Gotta love Retroblasting! Still finding a way to make the best of a bad situation. Those kitbashes look great given the limitations the Hasbro Retro line offers. Very impressive indeed and great video to boot.
Great breakdown! It’s really cool to see the originals side by side. And wow, I think I’m gonna need a Kylie warning before she shows up on my screen like that! 😮💨
I think "...did not resonate with kids..." is an understatement. I literally didn't even know the vintage toys even existed until I saw one of your videos!! The short clip of that commercial in this video is the first time I've ever seen it! I don't know if I would've wanted these as a kid because I didn't even know they existed.
I had always hoped for a Shishak figure, and an ancient Hebrew figure that you could army-build with, or use to carry the Ark into battle with lightning... fire... the power of God or something... coming out of it. Maybe that's going too deep into the lore though. Great video as always, Michael. It's always great to see an upload in my subscriptions!
Very informative. I didnt collect the retro figures as I went for the Adventure series. I feel both lines were missed opportunities. I know some may not have liked the 6" scale. And they were higher priced which didn't help. But I did appreciate that we got figures not found in the retro line. We got Belloq in his suit with Marcus Brody just to name a few. The grail knight is one of the highlights of the line. But like the retro series there were so many glaring ommisions. We didn't get Willie Scott, Lao Che, Mola Ram, the German Mechanic, Dietrich, Vogel and we had nothing from Kingdom yet we had a few from Dial. They didn't even make any army builders and rhe range really suffers from a lack of color. Ive seen some insane customs people have done with thuggee cultists and guards as well as the overseer. But they also could have expanded to some of the games though they probably would have been for a niche market. Ive seen a number of people make customs of Sophia Hapgood for example. Not sure if you have done a video on them already but do you think you might do one on the adventure series? Also what are your thoughts on the SHF figurarts Indy? I picked one up and its a pretty nice figure with a great likeness but it is expensive. His jacket imo is too dark. But everything else looks decent.
@retroblasting As in varying up the offerings, or any effort to cater to collectors of the license. I get they have to "have an Indy" in every wave I guess, but I think they may have fared better to expand the Kenner line instead of the attempts of making existing versions with lower quality or head scratching decisions. If they made Elsa, for example there wouldn't have been an existing base figure to compare it too. It may have gone down smoother than reproducing inferior "new" versions.
So I’m only 26 and have no nostalgia for these figures (or vintage SW either) growing up. But like with the Prequels, I saw Indy 4 in theaters way back when and fell in love with the character. So, again like Star Wars, I wanted to get the original wave of vintage figures on card and keep them carded as a “nod to the original” next to my slew of modern Vintage Collection, Legacy Collection, and childhood Star Wars figures (the oldest probably being POTFII OR POTJ). They look good on the card and I don’t plan on taking them out really. Same with the OG12 A New Hope figures. That’s as far as I’ll go with retro/repro figures.
@@roccoborghetti4693 I had to dig through the pegs and bins to find a couple that weren't peeling off the card back, and the ones that were sitting open were not being not being touched. Not even shoplifters had any interest in them.
@@timothyward8695 that’s very curious that was your experience , and I’m assuming Michael had a similar one, but I found all five on pegs all in the same day. I was at the mall and found Marion pristine at GameStop, Toht’s card only had an extra barcode sticker from Newbury Comics, and then Indy, Belloq, and German Mechanic I found at Go! Toys and Calendars with Belloq having a slight bend in the card but a heavy book flattened that out. Like I said before maybe I was just extremely lucky
I still say you gotta get your hands on an SH Figurearts Indiana Jones figure, that is everything we've ben asking for, just a little expensive but it has everything that 4 hasbro figures would by default and still costs less.
Excellent video. And I appreciate your efforts to try to salvage these things via kit bashing. Honestly, given that they were never going to do any vehicles or the horse, and either can't or won't do accurate recreations of the original sculpts and stylings, they may as well have just done them as Kenner Star Wars style 5POA figures. Preferably all Cairo scene versions, which could have given them the opportunity to recreate the original Star Wars cantina playset as the Cairo bar and sell it as something to display the figures on.
Hey! I know you don’t collect modern toys but your passion for toys being toys inspires me to look for the same and the current playmates Godzilla x kong a new empire toys are exactly that. A wonderful toyline where toys get to be toys. The 6inch scale also looks good next to gunpla.
Michael, I've done exactly as you said at the end, I've bought extra 2008 Hasbro figures (the ones with the good face sculpts) and re -.carded them on Chris King, custom style Kenner cardbacks. I wish they released that San Diego comic con 2010 wave, the marion looks amazing, but sadly that ship has sailed. I was also so appalled with the retro marion figure, I bought a Stan Solo one with the superior dress (loose) and re-carded that on another alternative Chris King custom cardback, with the card art depicting marion waving the dying torch in the well of souls, so I also gave her Sallah's torch in the blister, from the 2008 line. It's crazy we had to kit bash and do all this ourselves..
@Akitalionpilot, I saw your avatar and the first thing popped in my mind was “and I’ll form the head”! Then the rest of the Voltron theme music. Loved that show as a kid. Used to love after school lineups, GI Joe, Voltron, Robotech. Good times back then.
Thanks for this detailed breakdown of the figures! 👏 Never had the originals, though was a fan of the trilogy of films. Might get some of these, if /when they turn up at Ollie's or similar bargain bin retail outlet. The #kitbashing tips were a great value add! 👍
If Hasbro is gonna mess it up this bad, the might as well have made "Indiana Jones: The Power of the Force" figures. Bulked up Indy and Bulked up Short Round.
@@timothyward8695 Widely acknowledged by followers of RetroBlasting that Hasbro's honchos' mothers were hamsters and their fathers smelt of elderberries!
Also, if you use figure stands, Sallah doesn't have any holes under his feet! You'd have to drill them in if you need to.... was Hasbro too lazy to drill those out for us on him?!?
In addition to all of the excellent points made by Michael, this line also suffered from the classic Hasbro distribution failure. Having dearly loved my vintage IJ collection as a kid, I bought every one of these that I saw locally on pegs. I got three figures. Three. They look passable near the back of my 3 3/4" collection, but I would have happily picked up at least the entire first wave, just for the nostalgia, but once again, Hasbro made it impossible for me to give them my money.
The only one of these I picked up was Temple of Doom Indy but it was on clearance. Comparing him to the only 80s Kenner I have (Bespin Luke) it's worlds different and swore me off getting the rest of the Hasbro Indy retros. I really wish Stan Solo could have done his Indy and Marion, you could tell he put the heart and soul Hasbro lacked with this line.
So as a huge Indiana jones fan, when these and the adventure series were announced and it came out that Hasbro said only so many of each, both lines were doomed from the beginning and they never gave it a chance.
I’m just gonna say it, the whip accessory might have gotten the Slave 1 treatment. It’s entirely possible they just did it for the politically correct internet points (in spite of the fact that, like Slave 1’s name, nobody actually had a problem with it).
Aaaaand now Hasbro is putting out Phantom Menace Retro Collection figures. While they’re thankfully a one-and-done purchase thanks to all six of them being in a box set, they still struggle to get the Kenner styling right. Only Qui-Gon has the cloth robes you’d expect from late stage Kenner Star Wars releases and the rest look like they’re having a hard time holding things (so par for the course for these things).
The only other purpose I can think of for these figures specifically wave one is props for your 80s themed restaurant or escape room or props for the next season of stranger things
I'm hoping that eventually enough time will pass where, if possible, Stan Solo could still release his Indy and Marion. If he can't, I understand, but it would be great if he could.
The Walmart modern Retro Joes had a few, if passable, gems. Of course, they weren't exactly "Retro" in the purest sense, and they did choose to reissue "that" Duke despite showing they were able to build figures like Scarlett from the parts they had. Still worlds behind POC/30th in terms of quality, though.
At first, I was so glad to hear that Hasbro was making the Indy retro-style figures. I only bought all 3 of the Indy figures. If I can find the others at a cheaper price, I'll buy them later. I was hoping for more villains this time , but I was sure disappointed. Sure, I can get behind the villains offered from Raiders, but I think Hasbro didn't go all in like they should've. I was hoping to see a new version of Belloq with either safari gear or in the white suit with the machine gun like they did in the 6 -inch scale. I was let down big time on that idea. What was the use of a Temple of Doom Indy and Short Round if we couldn't even get Willie Scott and Mola Ram? How about Lao Che and his goons? Where were the temple guards, Giant Thugee, or the temple priests? I liked The Last Crusade Indy, but where was Elsa Schneider, Marcus Brody, Kazim, General Vogul, the Grail Knight, and Walter Donovan? I do agree that all of the Indy figures should've had whips, satchels, and pistols with all of them. I ended up buying the 2008 Indy satchel to go with my Temple of Doom Indy so it didn't look so plain. Of course, I had to buy a repro pistol and 2 whips to complete my Temple of Doom and Last Crusade Indy figures. Even more disappointing, they didn't re-issue any of the original play sets and vehicles, much less offer anything that would've been awesome like a Temple of Doom play set, bridge play set, mine car play set, motorcycles, or a German tank. Hasbro could have done much better had they not been so lazy in their efforts toward this retro line.
I had to buy repro whips, which are far more accurate to the original for mine. I bought 3 for every Indy in this line. I also bought 2 extra LC figures for the missing shoulder bags. I have all the originals, but I wanted the full new line as we never get Indy figures. Edit: Just got to the part where you suggested these solutions.
good video bro ha, ha, I can understand someone getting this in 82, but not in 2024... at this price? come on! I have the adventure series 8 figs, raiders Indy, Marion, Elsa, Toth, Sallah, Belloq and Brody, and finished with Henry sr the bad guys have to be Cobra, as otherwise, there is nt much opposition, I d like to get Donovan perhaps, but there s nt anything else... because I don t want absolutely to re create exact scenes I m good, but otherwise, it s quite limited. at least, they re very well done, and match Joes. so now you know... good show bro
Hasbro only makes Indy toys with no care because they got the license from Kenner, if I was Hasbro’s CEO I would sell the Indiana Jones license to a different toy company
"None of the decisions for these figures make a lick of sense" Yeah, that about sums it up. Still, very cool to see your strategies for salvaging this mess of a line.
Looking back, I think the primary reason I never bought any Indiana Jones figures boiled down to the way my friends and I played. Mostly, it boiled down to big battles between the neighborhood kids. All us with our toys vs the kids down the street and their toys. The primary function of our action figures was to pilot the vehicles and man the various weapons & ground vehicles guarding the base. Indiana Jones simply didn't fit.
I will never understand why they insist on producing Belloq exclusively in the outfit he wore in only one very specific scene, a scene in which he didn’t interact with Indy at all. His Cairo suit would’ve made much more sense as a representative look.
Because carded vintage ceremonial Belloq was super rare?
Same issue with the 6 inch line too, put Cairo Belloq in an overpriced two pack with Brody. Kenner made ceremonial robe Belloq as a mail-away for a reason.
Unfortunately Hasbro probably didn't feel the line had any lasting value to toy sales so they just did enough to satisfy their deal with Disney. If Disney had actually planned to continue making movies based on the franchise then Hasbro might have made new figures with better design. Disney probably wasn't that interested in the line anyway and Hasbro was just making sure Disney didn't try to use a different toy company.
Exactly! They made Belloq with .... Marcus of all people when if he's depicted in arc showdown they should have made German soldier disguise Indy lord knows they made most of the line out of Indy variants! 🙄
its really disappointing seeing that hasbro doesn't have the talent to make new figures for such a cool toy line
Well they did fire that talent back in December so there's that
I really wanted these to be good ,because I love Indy and the 3.75 inch scale .
@@truckrobo147gonna be honest, they were fired LONG before then
If they can barely handle remakes, new figures are out of reach.
Though that's true for almost every line they've got.
Hasbro Sucks!!!!!!!!!!! Stan Solo and others are making better products. Hasbro just doesn't care that much. A few consultations and tweaks and this range would've been ok. But make it, ship it, sell it, dump it, next.
Thanks!
HOLY CRAP! Thank you so much!!!!
Your channel is great. You treat the subject of collecting vintage Toys with respect and reverence. The indy stuff is great as well. Please keep up the good work. by the way i have a 21st century company Sherman tank toy that i rescued specifically because of your channel. thankn you for your hard work.
The lack of a Dietrich, German Soldier or any 'Foot Soldier' across the two lines really displayed a lack of interest given towards 'filling gaps' or even displayability
Well, since you can't even use that "national-socialism-word" online anymore, a major toy company making toys of 1930's military Germans is now nigh impossible. We've become a society of glass snowflakes.
Of you aren't afraid of a little green paint, you can swap out the Indy in German disguise head with a Kenner Star Wars Imperial Officer after painting the hat olive.👍
Agree man would be nice to see a figure for the Brotherhood of the Cruciform Sword but nope.
@@steko9465 I have wanted to do that, the central issue is that the Kenner Raiders figures are hard to find over here in the uk, Ive managed to get an Indy, the map room varient and a Toht but I am on the hunt for a German disguise Indy
I’m dying with laughter about that Henry Jones figure!
Indy has certainly took a beating since 1989. Whether it be toys or movies.
I fell asleep and when i woke up your Indy 5 review was playing, and it was about galf way through, watched the rest if it and you have a new subscriber fir life...Gen X for life 🤘
Really appreciate your commitment to quality in regards to Indiana Jones. Looking forward to your adventure series video!
Thank you for the link to the eBay store to get the new accessories! I just got an Indy on clearance and would love to fit the gun into the holster, much less his hand.
Let's toy is my favorite action figure photographer like, ever! Can't believe he gave you a custom indy!
He's a really talented collector.
Those Indy face sculpts make him look more like Bob the Builder, than Harrisoon Ford.
As an Indy collector I was excited for these, then they came out saw how bad they were and now there rotting on store shelves. Sound familiar? But least the 80s figures were actually good! Cheap nostalgic ploy Hasbro! Great video as always
As you may already know I'm keeping mine carded, I was very interested to see more from this line as in later waves of some toy lines you occasionally find a gem. In reality I was waiting for a Mola Ram, Willie or Brody? Great video!
What's the point of keeping them on cardbacks with the rigidity of a pillow case?
@@retroblasting I'm just weird that way. I did enjoy your kitbash of the figures.
@@retroblastingthe ToD and LC figures have much better cards than the Raiders ones
I’d love to see your take on the shfiguarts Indiana jones. I wasn’t too excited till I got it in hand. I personally think they did a stellar job
Unfortunately, one standalone figure isn't gonna really make me jump up for joy.
@@retroblasting as much as I hate to admit it it’s just hasbro was the only company who could’ve made a full blown Indiana jones line…that or Super7 since there’s no property they won’t turn down.
I picked up Temple of Doom Indy for $4 at Target. I like it enough, though he hangs on the wall. I didn't open it.
Great video. I was originally excited for these, but passed when I saw them in person.
I was going to say that they probably put minimal effort into lines that only heavy collectors would buy because they know collectors will feel obligated to buy them anyway. However if they are stopping production the market must not be great. Anyway I do think my initial point plays some role.
Putting minimal effort into the lines they know their customers with the most discretionary income have is, by far, the weirdest take I've heard yet in defense of Hasbro. Hasbro is the biggest price gouger in the toy industry. But hey, you are clearly the type that believes what you say is super important and must be true, so enjoy the ride into the ground I guess. The toy industry has officially admitted adults are now their target audience... or don't you read the news?
I'm not defending Hasbro. To me it looks like they are exploiting the loyalty certain collectors have to these characters and the goal of having a complete collection by releasing trash, knowing that these collectors will buy it anyway. It's a terrible long term strategy and bad business practices. You've replied to some strawman that doesn't hold my position and I'm not sure why. I'll chalk it up to a misunderstanding, maybe you run into a lot of Hasbro defenders lol.. I know perfectly well who the target audience is and my post speaks directly to this.
I see notification, I click, I like, I comment, I watch.
Same.
Same for me too, but I like and comment after I watch.
Great video. I still like the retro figures since I don't have any of the originals. One very weird thing I found was that Sallah doesn't have any peg holes in the feet. That is really hard to explain. Every other figure has peg holes.
I wanted these so bad when I was a kid. I remember some rich cousins had everything in the line oh the fun we had I can still remember everything about that day. Thanks for the nostalgia trip
Once again I find myself at worst smiling and at best laughing out loud at one of your videos. As entertainment and informative I love the effort you put into the production. I just hope you continue to enjoy the hobby as much as I enjoy Retroblasting. Thank you.
I've been looking forward to this one.
We made all the accessories so big that they don't fit and also to not piss off the Repro Cops which means you wind up buying reproduction accessories anyway.
Well done, Hasbro.
BAM. NAILED IT.
After rewatching this, one thing I'd like to throw out there for those that want a stand for retro collection Marion: the only stand I have found that works (kind of) are the stands for Mattel's DC Infinite Heroes figure line from several years ago. The foot peg is just small enough for her feet. I had a clear one that came from a 3 pack I had, just wanted to share for anyone interested.
Fantastic video with some really great kit bashing recommendations. This is why Retroblasting is the go to channel for precise, unbias opinion, factual content and a real desire to improve the collectors experience. Thank you Michael
Sand the gun and whip Handel down a little bit works good
That whip is a travesty and should never be used with these figures. It's an embarrassment.
Well said, a mercy killing. Thanks for all the detailed analysis and for offering suggestion on how to enhance our original collection.
'Pray. For. DNR monkey.' Excellent as always! I am beginning to wonder how rare the Last Crusade pair are. I have never seen them in a store or at any toy shows. God forbid Hazblow put something on a peg that we could buy.
The German Mechanic went to the same tan salon as the Kardashians man! LOL!
Brilliant video. Loved every point
Im honestly shocked their still making indiana jones figures, considering dial failure
I made it clear the line is already dead. Listen to the opening minute of the video AGAIN.
I know that im just surprised they still made more after dial failed so hard and like you said its a mercy killing
Busted thumb on my childhood Indy. Lost the pistol and whip in the dirt 40 years ago. I did purchase the repro from ebay.
Indy's face looks like it was inspired by a Nintendo Wii Avatar. Great vid man.
Great review Michael, on point as always!
I was all on the 2008 line at the time. Even got the mail aways ( big Ark and thrones alien) a great year and a half 😅
TH-cam changed my settings to were I was nolonger getting notifications for retroblasting videos. I fixed it though.
I loved the retro Indy figures. I had hoped the line continued just for a little while longer so we got some more characters.
However, the retro line inspired me to do the job myself. So I used a Temple Of Doom Indy to create a vintage Map Room Indy. And I'm currently working on turning a few others into different characters. I'm having so much fun working on these. I understand that they're not of the same quality as the originals. But I love them.
Hey man having fun is what it’s all about.
Postmortem indeed! Less than a flash in the pan and gooone. Awesome video as always, Michael?
Gotta love Retroblasting! Still finding a way to make the best of a bad situation. Those kitbashes look great given the limitations the Hasbro Retro line offers. Very impressive indeed and great video to boot.
Very great review, had no idea these were so bad
Excellent video Michael! :)
Great breakdown! It’s really cool to see the originals side by side. And wow, I think I’m gonna need a Kylie warning before she shows up on my screen like that! 😮💨
I think "...did not resonate with kids..." is an understatement. I literally didn't even know the vintage toys even existed until I saw one of your videos!! The short clip of that commercial in this video is the first time I've ever seen it! I don't know if I would've wanted these as a kid because I didn't even know they existed.
Great job as always
I had always hoped for a Shishak figure, and an ancient Hebrew figure that you could army-build with, or use to carry the Ark into battle with lightning... fire... the power of God or something... coming out of it. Maybe that's going too deep into the lore though.
Great video as always, Michael.
It's always great to see an upload in my subscriptions!
Very informative. I didnt collect the retro figures as I went for the Adventure series. I feel both lines were missed opportunities. I know some may not have liked the 6" scale. And they were higher priced which didn't help.
But I did appreciate that we got figures not found in the retro line. We got Belloq in his suit with Marcus Brody just to name a few. The grail knight is one of the highlights of the line. But like the retro series there were so many glaring ommisions. We didn't get Willie Scott, Lao Che, Mola Ram, the German Mechanic, Dietrich, Vogel and we had nothing from Kingdom yet we had a few from Dial.
They didn't even make any army builders and rhe range really suffers from a lack of color. Ive seen some insane customs people have done with thuggee cultists and guards as well as the overseer. But they also could have expanded to some of the games though they probably would have been for a niche market. Ive seen a number of people make customs of Sophia Hapgood for example.
Not sure if you have done a video on them already but do you think you might do one on the adventure series?
Also what are your thoughts on the SHF figurarts Indy? I picked one up and its a pretty nice figure with a great likeness but it is expensive. His jacket imo is too dark. But everything else looks decent.
Just off the top of my head Cairo Swordsman, Thuggee, Mola Ram, Elsa, Willy, and Knight of the Round Table were all right there to be made.
"Right there" how? In your mind, or in their actual plans?
@retroblasting As in varying up the offerings, or any effort to cater to collectors of the license. I get they have to "have an Indy" in every wave I guess, but I think they may have fared better to expand the Kenner line instead of the attempts of making existing versions with lower quality or head scratching decisions. If they made Elsa, for example there wouldn't have been an existing base figure to compare it too. It may have gone down smoother than reproducing inferior "new" versions.
He wasn't a Knight of the Round Table, that would have made him about 500 years older. He was a Knight of the First Crusade, hence the movie's title.
Excellent video, unlike the toys.
Thank you very much!
So I’m only 26 and have no nostalgia for these figures (or vintage SW either) growing up. But like with the Prequels, I saw Indy 4 in theaters way back when and fell in love with the character. So, again like Star Wars, I wanted to get the original wave of vintage figures on card and keep them carded as a “nod to the original” next to my slew of modern Vintage Collection, Legacy Collection, and childhood Star Wars figures (the oldest probably being POTFII OR POTJ). They look good on the card and I don’t plan on taking them out really. Same with the OG12 A New Hope figures. That’s as far as I’ll go with retro/repro figures.
The cards are cheap and warped and the figures look cheap. Nothing about them "looks good," but hey, we all have to tell ourselves lies.
@@retroblastingidk mine aren’t that bad. Maybe I got lucky. But who knows, Hasbro these days are all over the place with QC.
@@roccoborghetti4693 I had to dig through the pegs and bins to find a couple that weren't peeling off the card back, and the ones that were sitting open were not being not being touched. Not even shoplifters had any interest in them.
@@timothyward8695 that’s very curious that was your experience , and I’m assuming Michael had a similar one, but I found all five on pegs all in the same day. I was at the mall and found Marion pristine at GameStop, Toht’s card only had an extra barcode sticker from Newbury Comics, and then Indy, Belloq, and German Mechanic I found at Go! Toys and Calendars with Belloq having a slight bend in the card but a heavy book flattened that out.
Like I said before maybe I was just extremely lucky
Thanks again Michael for a well balanced review
Im starting to think there's no one left at Hasbro to do justice to these retro lines
I still say you gotta get your hands on an SH Figurearts Indiana Jones figure, that is everything we've ben asking for, just a little expensive but it has everything that 4 hasbro figures would by default and still costs less.
It's ONE figure. It isn't everything I've wanted. Not by a long shot.
Excellent video. And I appreciate your efforts to try to salvage these things via kit bashing.
Honestly, given that they were never going to do any vehicles or the horse, and either can't or won't do accurate recreations of the original sculpts and stylings, they may as well have just done them as Kenner Star Wars style 5POA figures. Preferably all Cairo scene versions, which could have given them the opportunity to recreate the original Star Wars cantina playset as the Cairo bar and sell it as something to display the figures on.
Hey! I know you don’t collect modern toys but your passion for toys being toys inspires me to look for the same and the current playmates Godzilla x kong a new empire toys are exactly that. A wonderful toyline where toys get to be toys. The 6inch scale also looks good next to gunpla.
Michael, I've done exactly as you said at the end, I've bought extra 2008 Hasbro figures (the ones with the good face sculpts) and re -.carded them on Chris King, custom style Kenner cardbacks. I wish they released that San Diego comic con 2010 wave, the marion looks amazing, but sadly that ship has sailed.
I was also so appalled with the retro marion figure, I bought a Stan Solo one with the superior dress (loose) and re-carded that on another alternative Chris King custom cardback, with the card art depicting marion waving the dying torch in the well of souls, so I also gave her Sallah's torch in the blister, from the 2008 line. It's crazy we had to kit bash and do all this ourselves..
I forgot those existed
@Akitalionpilot, I saw your avatar and the first thing popped in my mind was “and I’ll form the head”! Then the rest of the Voltron theme music. Loved that show as a kid. Used to love after school lineups, GI Joe, Voltron, Robotech. Good times back then.
Thanks for this detailed breakdown of the figures! 👏
Never had the originals, though was a fan of the trilogy of films.
Might get some of these, if /when they turn up at Ollie's or similar bargain bin retail outlet.
The #kitbashing tips were a great value add! 👍
I just shaved the handle of the new pistol down until it fit into my 80s Indy’s hand
If Hasbro is gonna mess it up this bad, the might as well have made "Indiana Jones: The Power of the Force" figures. Bulked up Indy and Bulked up Short Round.
Good info! Thanks!
Indy toys are like Indy movies: get excited, then get disappointed.
there's only 2 disappointing indy films, crystal skull and dial. only good things about them, music and the relic.
That custom Cairo Indy is just straight 🔥
7:19 "The Holy Grail?"
Oh yes. It'sa verra nice-uh.
Nice choice of phrasing. Hey Hasbro...I fart in your general direction!
I told him we already got one...
@@timothyward8695 Widely acknowledged by followers of RetroBlasting that Hasbro's honchos' mothers were hamsters and their fathers smelt of elderberries!
We love ya Mike!
Mercy kill 🤣🤣🤣
Excellent as always
I’ll keep my custom mezco style Indy. I used your custom Indy video to get it right.
Also, if you use figure stands, Sallah doesn't have any holes under his feet! You'd have to drill them in if you need to.... was Hasbro too lazy to drill those out for us on him?!?
In addition to all of the excellent points made by Michael, this line also suffered from the classic Hasbro distribution failure.
Having dearly loved my vintage IJ collection as a kid, I bought every one of these that I saw locally on pegs. I got three figures. Three.
They look passable near the back of my 3 3/4" collection, but I would have happily picked up at least the entire first wave, just for the nostalgia, but once again, Hasbro made it impossible for me to give them my money.
5:30 (sucks air in through teeth) Fred and Richard Fairbrass are looking different these days.
lol
I think the people at Hasbro have a bet to see which group can trigger there fanbase the most.
Nice video. You know if Stan Solo decided to came out with Marion and Indy anyways, I would still buy them.
brw, lovely video… ❤❤❤
I hope Stan Solo might pick up where Hasbro left off with these. I may be interested in the figures, even though I wasn't a Kenner kid.
wow I'm here early for once... saying hi from hong kong ! yea no one here buys anything indy... except me 😅
Barely any effort was my first saw these. And honestly I felt the same about all of Hasbro’s efforts this tome around.
I love his show love his criticisms he needs to create his own toy line gi joe 4 inch scale.
I bought Marion and Belorque at target when they were heavily discounted.
The only one of these I picked up was Temple of Doom Indy but it was on clearance. Comparing him to the only 80s Kenner I have (Bespin Luke) it's worlds different and swore me off getting the rest of the Hasbro Indy retros. I really wish Stan Solo could have done his Indy and Marion, you could tell he put the heart and soul Hasbro lacked with this line.
I bought them all at 50% off on a whim. Sitting in a box somewhere, becoming artefacts 😅
Yeah, 2008s figures (with improved headsculpts, maybe?) on retro cardbacks would have been great.
I’m mad we didn’t get Mola Ram in Retro or Adventure Series.
So as a huge Indiana jones fan, when these and the adventure series were announced and it came out that Hasbro said only so many of each, both lines were doomed from the beginning and they never gave it a chance.
Stiff and gumny joints, sounds like they inadvertently made the much older Dial of Destiny Harrison Ford 😂
I’m just gonna say it, the whip accessory might have gotten the Slave 1 treatment. It’s entirely possible they just did it for the politically correct internet points (in spite of the fact that, like Slave 1’s name, nobody actually had a problem with it).
I dunno about that since the entire Adventure Series line had whips galore in various forms.
Aaaaand now Hasbro is putting out Phantom Menace Retro Collection figures. While they’re thankfully a one-and-done purchase thanks to all six of them being in a box set, they still struggle to get the Kenner styling right. Only Qui-Gon has the cloth robes you’d expect from late stage Kenner Star Wars releases and the rest look like they’re having a hard time holding things (so par for the course for these things).
I’ll admit I bought a last crusade indie I didn’t want just to get that shoulder bag for wave 1 indie
The only other purpose I can think of for these figures specifically wave one is props for your 80s themed restaurant or escape room or props for the next season of stranger things
I didnt see most of these at Retail the only one I saw was Henry Jones.
The figures might of been disappointing, but you have to give them credit for knocking it out of the park with the Action-Crackin Whip.
I'm hoping that eventually enough time will pass where, if possible, Stan Solo could still release his Indy and Marion. If he can't, I understand, but it would be great if he could.
It was one of my biggest disappointments as a kid I could never find a 3 3/4 inch Indy.
Legitimate question, are any of Hasbro’s retro collection figures good, I remember these and the first Star Wars ones being pretty bad
I've done multiple videos on the Retro Collection waves. I'd advise you watch them to get your answer.
The Walmart modern Retro Joes had a few, if passable, gems. Of course, they weren't exactly "Retro" in the purest sense, and they did choose to reissue "that" Duke despite showing they were able to build figures like Scarlett from the parts they had.
Still worlds behind POC/30th in terms of quality, though.
At first, I was so glad to hear that Hasbro was making the Indy retro-style figures. I only bought all 3 of the Indy figures. If I can find the others at a cheaper price, I'll buy them later. I was hoping for more villains this time , but I was sure disappointed. Sure, I can get behind the villains offered from Raiders, but I think Hasbro didn't go all in like they should've. I was hoping to see a new version of Belloq with either safari gear or in the white suit with the machine gun like they did in the 6 -inch scale. I was let down big time on that idea. What was the use of a Temple of Doom Indy and Short Round if we couldn't even get Willie Scott and Mola Ram? How about Lao Che and his goons? Where were the temple guards, Giant Thugee, or the temple priests? I liked The Last Crusade Indy, but where was Elsa Schneider, Marcus Brody, Kazim, General Vogul, the Grail Knight, and Walter Donovan? I do agree that all of the Indy figures should've had whips, satchels, and pistols with all of them. I ended up buying the 2008 Indy satchel to go with my Temple of Doom Indy so it didn't look so plain. Of course, I had to buy a repro pistol and 2 whips to complete my Temple of Doom and Last Crusade Indy figures. Even more disappointing, they didn't re-issue any of the original play sets and vehicles, much less offer anything that would've been awesome like a Temple of Doom play set, bridge play set, mine car play set, motorcycles, or a German tank. Hasbro could have done much better had they not been so lazy in their efforts toward this retro line.
pretty sure my mother had hasbro belloq´s tunic as a dry towel in the 80s
I had to buy repro whips, which are far more accurate to the original for mine. I bought 3 for every Indy in this line. I also bought 2 extra LC figures for the missing shoulder bags. I have all the originals, but I wanted the full new line as we never get Indy figures.
Edit: Just got to the part where you suggested these solutions.
good video bro
ha, ha, I can understand someone getting this in 82,
but not in 2024... at this price? come on!
I have the adventure series
8 figs, raiders Indy, Marion, Elsa, Toth, Sallah, Belloq and Brody,
and finished with Henry sr
the bad guys have to be Cobra, as otherwise, there is nt much opposition, I d like to get Donovan perhaps,
but there s nt anything else...
because I don t want absolutely to re create exact scenes
I m good, but otherwise, it s quite limited.
at least, they re very well done, and match Joes.
so now you know...
good show bro
Hasbro only makes Indy toys with no care because they got the license from Kenner, if I was Hasbro’s CEO I would sell the Indiana Jones license to a different toy company
Disney is in charge of the license. If Hasbro gives it up, Disney makes the decision on who gets it next. Hasbro doesn't "own" the Indy toy rights.
"None of the decisions for these figures make a lick of sense" Yeah, that about sums it up. Still, very cool to see your strategies for salvaging this mess of a line.
Great video! Hasbro's retro efforts are increasingly defined by disappointment! As an aussie i lol'd hard at the Kylie comparison!
10:08 That whip is an abomination.
Looking back, I think the primary reason I never bought any Indiana Jones figures boiled down to the way my friends and I played. Mostly, it boiled down to big battles between the neighborhood kids. All us with our toys vs the kids down the street and their toys. The primary function of our action figures was to pilot the vehicles and man the various weapons & ground vehicles guarding the base. Indiana Jones simply didn't fit.
If only it was handled better. I liked a few of the figs, but they could have had more characters and updated some old ones.