15:32 He’s pretty fair with constructive criticism across the promotions if you listen to the show and not just 30 second clips. Unfortunately critique clips tends to get picked up over positive clips.
New Day is done according to Dave Meltzer...well if Dave said it, then it must be true. The more interesting story is Dave's reaction to Tony Khan donating to Dutch Mantel gofundme.
I like it. Kinda like what Candice/Indi were about to do. A bunch of tag teams are about to split, this would be a good way to be creative and keep one of your biggest money makers together.
As far as promos go, I'd say Bubba/Bully Ray is the best heel promo I've ever experienced. No one in ECW got more heat just by talking than the Dudleys. His solo run in WWE could have taken him to the top, if creative would have allowed it. Ric Flair is up there, too, but I'd still give Bully the nod over him.
I was binge watch RAW '02 the other day... he was over as shit. Even was in the title picture for a cup of coffee. Them Dudley promos were the closest things I ever seen to a legal riot.
I used to work at pizza hut. They used to make their dough in a mixing bowl like everyone else. Then they changed to frozen disks for everything. The pizzas. The breadsticks. It is all frozen premade dough
@ I’m a wrestling fan. I just think there’s levels to wrestling. Case in point. I think that Roman is cool. And he will go down in history as 1 of the faces of the company. With a historical title reign lasting 1,316 days. But I still wouldn’t put him on the levels of Flair, Hogan, Austin, Cena, Sting (WCW/TNA), AJ Styles (TNA), The Rock, Hiroshi Tanahashi (New Japan), Keiju Muto (Japan), RVD (ECW) etc etc….as far as iconic faces of said companies. --------- As far as the New Day as great as they are, and they have longevity as a group. I wouldn’t put them next to The Four Horsemen, DX, Team X-Treme/The Hardyz, The Hart Foundation, NWO, The Fabulous Freebirds, The Von Erich’s, Evolution, Bullet Club, The Dudley’s, The Shield, Brothers of Destruction, Beer Money, Los Guerreros, (I’m not a fan but..) The Young Bucks, The Rockers, New Age Outlaws, Harlem Heat, British Bulldogs, Brisco Brothers, The Road Warriors, E&C…. Even the usos tbh. Yes, I know you can argue that they are a more successful tag team due to popularity & tag team gold. But I also would equate that to the mass appeal of WWE now, and there large “kid” centered audiences (although I’m aware of all the blatant adult references). I just think the term Iconic, Legendary, & GOAT are vastly over used.
It might be just me, but I think the day The New Day "died" for me, even when they are still around, wasn't when Big E got drafted to RAW, I really think him getting injured the way he did was when people really knew this might've been the last time we see him in the ring as a wrestler. Granted I hope he is healthy obviously, he's a great guy, but I think that is, for me, when it was never the same and how could it. Putting Oddessy Jones in there still felt like a replacement for Big E even when they try to tell you otherwise. There just isn't anyone else that is The New Day other than those three guys. It's like adding or replacing members of The Shield, it just isn't the same and it just doesn't fit if anyone joins or switches for whatever reason. The New Day stable simply was never ment the have more members or replace members as, for example, The Judgement Day, NWO or others have before.
Vince did to The New Day in 2019 what he did to JR and Cole in 2008; he decided not to tell them ahead of time, not just to "get a genuine reaction" or "freshen things up", but to screw with his own employees live on air...
Why is what Meltzer said news?? Obviously they are either splitting up or it's a swerve haha. You don't need to be a wrestling insider to figure that out haha.
I knew that Xavier Woods was going heel for sure a few weeks ago when New Day came out with their “new” outfits. Xavier Woods is wearing an outfit that is VERY similar to/inspired by Black Lantern/Death Lantern from DC Comics. Kofi’s outfit is very similar to/inspired by Green Lantern. Since they’re both HUGE comic book nerds, this would make sense. Xavier was telegraphing that he was slowly turning “evil” while Kofi was staying “positive”. It’s VERY comic book-y, which makes it VERY New Day-y 😁
Meltzer is reporting the obvious that everyone is expecting. But according to Ibou from wrestle purists, each man is majorly involved with this story for their 10 year and it’s going to go the way they want which won’t be predictable. Which one would think doesn’t end with a break up (or permanent break up).
Pizza hut in Canada tastes like oil and Domino's tastes like cardboard. I haven't tried papa johns, but there are a few other pizza chains here that are more popular, like little Caesar's, which also tastes like bland cardboard and panago, which usually wins by default because they actually have some flavor.
Usos come out to pay their respects, then maybe they talk some sense into New Day about about fighting with your family/chosen family based on their blood line history, But fingers crossed Big E is back
Will be interesting to see when new day split what will happen to each wrestler. They been a stable for so long will they get a solid run or fade into obscurity.
All the blabbing WWE did trying to get the CJ belts over as big deals; can you imagine if one of them *didn't even* main event the show they are named for?
I hope it is a big twist and its kofi who turns heel... Woods was right about Odyssey and kofi feels woods has clearly proven he's the "problem" as he can't lead... I think this would be way more interesting and then you could mega push woods this way when they go into the hall of fame you could look at the group as equals and not woods being the ones who never won anything.. (No KOTR doesn't count you know what i mean)
The New Day has done everything it can as a Stable. With Big E's future still in question, it's best for them to finally split up. Kofi and Xavier need something fresh, and this split is that. Plus the WWE have an out when Big E is 100% certain he can return that is how they can be reunited. The interesting thing is in the same week we could see the Stree Profits also break up. Again this is needed Montez is long overdue for a singles run, and Dawkin deserves a shot as well. It might be a bit harder to get them back together but both men are floundering even if they are on TV almost every week. Of course I know they are also the normal little shitstains that are like "Well Triple K is racist anyway, so it doesn't matter."
It's time, cause let's be real, The New Day has ran its Course and it was a long Journey. Now it's time for Xavier Woods to graduate to the Mid Card now
I respect all three as talents but I absolutely hate the babyface clown act they became. My fantasy booking Xavier turns heel and crushes Kofi writing Kofi off for a while. If Big E is ever safe to take bumps again he returns and joins Xavier as absolute cruel monster. They totally rebrand themselves, going on path of destruction at any mention of New Day. Threatening announcers for speaking the name. Big E revives the 5 count gimmick.
Why are you guys acting like someone died. Y'all need to find the middle. It's either too silly or too serious. Try hiring an acting coach. Fr. They can help you know how to act properly and look serious and taken seriously. This style feels like a alleyway with a camera in it.
The street prophets which tag team are they again, where they the two guys with Bobby Lashley at the end of his run in the WWE, if those where the guys what little popularity they had Fizzled out when they where paired with Bobby Lashley.
I am hoping Big E is healthy, and this is a way to bring Big E back.
Looks like there's "Trouble In Paradise" for The New Day.
You can see yourself out lol
@@beefy45 "Touble". Yes he can...
Kofi already sending the S.O.S
We're headed towards the "Big Ending"
As long as I hear Kingstons SOS theme again I’ll be happy whatever happens
So you reported that a dude who is consistently wrong said they they might break up or they might not? Guys...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Doctor of Thug-a-nomics was a heel.
I remember
Dr. of Thug-a-nomics feud with Undertaker rapping about necrophiliac and a certain relationship with him…
Word Life
New Day breakup will be the biggest thing since the end of The Shield.
15:32 He’s pretty fair with constructive criticism across the promotions if you listen to the show and not just 30 second clips. Unfortunately critique clips tends to get picked up over positive clips.
New Day is done according to Dave Meltzer...well if Dave said it, then it must be true. The more interesting story is Dave's reaction to Tony Khan donating to Dutch Mantel gofundme.
What if kofi also turns heel, like a brotherly thing, he gives in to Xavier cheating to win, helps him and they go on a heel run together.
now that would be a swerve that I'd be willing to see.
I like it. Kinda like what Candice/Indi were about to do. A bunch of tag teams are about to split, this would be a good way to be creative and keep one of your biggest money makers together.
@@labbaby189 Same for DIY, Gargano "has a decision to make" if Ciampa keeps on being unhinged as he was last Smackdown
My heart wants Big E to return & be able to lead them to gold again
Im sorry but New Day were dead in the water after Big E got injured
Even before that
@a20gtx They were definitely getting stale but without Big E they werent going to be the same.
@@MeNoSpeakJibberish that’s where they lost any momentum they had left.
They were already over when The Bloodline came in.
Ah well, I've BEEN tired of them. Too kiddy all the time
As far as promos go, I'd say Bubba/Bully Ray is the best heel promo I've ever experienced. No one in ECW got more heat just by talking than the Dudleys. His solo run in WWE could have taken him to the top, if creative would have allowed it. Ric Flair is up there, too, but I'd still give Bully the nod over him.
I was binge watch RAW '02 the other day... he was over as shit. Even was in the title picture for a cup of coffee. Them Dudley promos were the closest things I ever seen to a legal riot.
Papa John's is 100% better than Domino's; not sure if you have those in the UK
I used to work at pizza hut. They used to make their dough in a mixing bowl like everyone else. Then they changed to frozen disks for everything. The pizzas. The breadsticks. It is all frozen premade dough
Iconic is a strong word. How about most consistent WWE group. With a lot of accomplishments.
They're definitely iconic amongst wrestling fans
@ I’m a wrestling fan. I just think there’s levels to wrestling.
Case in point. I think that Roman is cool. And he will go down in history as 1 of the faces of the company. With a historical title reign lasting 1,316 days.
But I still wouldn’t put him on the levels of Flair, Hogan, Austin, Cena, Sting (WCW/TNA), AJ Styles (TNA), The Rock, Hiroshi Tanahashi (New Japan), Keiju Muto (Japan), RVD (ECW) etc etc….as far as iconic faces of said companies.
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As far as the New Day as great as they are, and they have longevity as a group.
I wouldn’t put them next to The Four Horsemen, DX, Team X-Treme/The Hardyz, The Hart Foundation, NWO, The Fabulous Freebirds, The Von Erich’s, Evolution, Bullet Club, The Dudley’s, The Shield, Brothers of Destruction, Beer Money, Los Guerreros, (I’m not a fan but..) The Young Bucks, The Rockers, New Age Outlaws, Harlem Heat, British Bulldogs, Brisco Brothers, The Road Warriors, E&C…. Even the usos tbh.
Yes, I know you can argue that they are a more successful tag team due to popularity & tag team gold. But I also would equate that to the mass appeal of WWE now, and there large “kid” centered audiences (although I’m aware of all the blatant adult references).
I just think the term Iconic, Legendary, & GOAT are vastly over used.
9 years too late for them to break up. Finally!
It might be just me, but I think the day The New Day "died" for me, even when they are still around, wasn't when Big E got drafted to RAW, I really think him getting injured the way he did was when people really knew this might've been the last time we see him in the ring as a wrestler. Granted I hope he is healthy obviously, he's a great guy, but I think that is, for me, when it was never the same and how could it. Putting Oddessy Jones in there still felt like a replacement for Big E even when they try to tell you otherwise. There just isn't anyone else that is The New Day other than those three guys. It's like adding or replacing members of The Shield, it just isn't the same and it just doesn't fit if anyone joins or switches for whatever reason.
The New Day stable simply was never ment the have more members or replace members as, for example, The Judgement Day, NWO or others have before.
I have been calling them Old Day as they have been going too long imho.
Yeah they've been together for a decade which is crazy
Vince did to The New Day in 2019 what he did to JR and Cole in 2008; he decided not to tell them ahead of time, not just to "get a genuine reaction" or "freshen things up", but to screw with his own employees live on air...
As fun as it was I believe new day split would be a good thing it's gotten stale for yrs besides I would like to see Xavier turn heel
My kids favorite team. He’s going to be devastated
Your kid has terrible favorites
Why is what Meltzer said news?? Obviously they are either splitting up or it's a swerve haha. You don't need to be a wrestling insider to figure that out haha.
I knew that Xavier Woods was going heel for sure a few weeks ago when New Day came out with their “new” outfits. Xavier Woods is wearing an outfit that is VERY similar to/inspired by Black Lantern/Death Lantern from DC Comics. Kofi’s outfit is very similar to/inspired by Green Lantern. Since they’re both HUGE comic book nerds, this would make sense.
Xavier was telegraphing that he was slowly turning “evil” while Kofi was staying “positive”. It’s VERY comic book-y, which makes it VERY New Day-y 😁
2 people are not a stable. New Day was done when Big E went down.
Ridge Holland gets called up joins forces with Xavier Woods as a way to remind us he injured Big E
Woods has been pitching a heel turn for years now.
Meltzer is reporting the obvious that everyone is expecting. But according to Ibou from wrestle purists, each man is majorly involved with this story for their 10 year and it’s going to go the way they want which won’t be predictable. Which one would think doesn’t end with a break up (or permanent break up).
Id be ok if the New Day never breaks up….we need more of that
Bloodline n judgement day 10x more iconic
Pizza hut in Canada tastes like oil and Domino's tastes like cardboard. I haven't tried papa johns, but there are a few other pizza chains here that are more popular, like little Caesar's, which also tastes like bland cardboard and panago, which usually wins by default because they actually have some flavor.
I thought the new day was gonna be the 1 stable that would never break up
As long as Bianca is with WWE, Montez ain’t going anywhere. He deserves a good singles push and Dawkins need to switch the gear up in my opinion
If Montez gets pushed solo, Dawkins is doomed 😂 no chance he can make it as a singles wrestler
Usos come out to pay their respects, then maybe they talk some sense into New Day about about fighting with your family/chosen family based on their blood line history, But fingers crossed Big E is back
Have Woods turn heel, win a title, and Kofi still congratulates him
Before montez Ford does anything as far as planning on maybe leaving he better trademark file "we want the smoke"😂
I find any WWE news broken solely by Meltzer questionable 🤔
Maybe Big E will stop them from fighting before they split.
Will be interesting to see when new day split what will happen to each wrestler. They been a stable for so long will they get a solid run or fade into obscurity.
Good Morning Everyone 🌄 🙏🏿
So. Street profits.... Private party could happen?? That would be 7 bangers bro. 7 bangers
New Day was a product of the PG era, and it has no place in this era.
Death Riders > New Day. Facts! Its the hard reset AEW needs!
All the blabbing WWE did trying to get the CJ belts over as big deals; can you imagine if one of them *didn't even* main event the show they are named for?
I fully expect to see the swerve that Kofi is tired of Woods always criticizing him and he attcks Woods to break up
I cant see Big E saying numpty lol
I hope it is a big twist and its kofi who turns heel...
Woods was right about Odyssey and kofi feels woods has clearly proven he's the "problem" as he can't lead...
I think this would be way more interesting and then you could mega push woods this way when they go into the hall of fame you could look at the group as equals and not woods being the ones who never won anything.. (No KOTR doesn't count you know what i mean)
But but but….the New Day Rocks!!
Woah, what's with the Querétaro jacket??
lol, michaels nameplate said "andy"
I just hope they will cook Xavier somehow, cuz the guy can do stuff in both wrestles and character, I mean come on.
Why would u give me info from meltzer in 2024
montez ford deserves a push
Hoped it was the Judgement day and not the New Day after reading the title.
“Most iconic” is a lot overboard lol
Definitely top 3 in last 20 years. Shield, Wyatts, and New Day.
new day breaking up is shocking
The New Day has done everything it can as a Stable. With Big E's future still in question, it's best for them to finally split up. Kofi and Xavier need something fresh, and this split is that. Plus the WWE have an out when Big E is 100% certain he can return that is how they can be reunited. The interesting thing is in the same week we could see the Stree Profits also break up. Again this is needed Montez is long overdue for a singles run, and Dawkin deserves a shot as well. It might be a bit harder to get them back together but both men are floundering even if they are on TV almost every week. Of course I know they are also the normal little shitstains that are like "Well Triple K is racist anyway, so it doesn't matter."
It's time, cause let's be real, The New Day has ran its Course and it was a long Journey. Now it's time for Xavier Woods to graduate to the Mid Card now
I respect all three as talents but I absolutely hate the babyface clown act they became.
My fantasy booking Xavier turns heel and crushes Kofi writing Kofi off for a while. If Big E is ever safe to take bumps again he returns and joins Xavier as absolute cruel monster. They totally rebrand themselves, going on path of destruction at any mention of New Day. Threatening announcers for speaking the name.
Big E revives the 5 count gimmick.
New days should stay together as a stable and heve them do mostly individual matches under the new day banner.
Most iconic? 😂 DX have been broken up for years now
R i p....new Day
Will it lead to another Kofimania?
I hope they break them up they had there run for a long time honestly what else can they do, it's just that time right now they have ran there course,
DX finished decades ago!
Is that a Mexican football team jacket? Or it's my imagination?
Why are you guys acting like someone died. Y'all need to find the middle.
It's either too silly or too serious.
Try hiring an acting coach. Fr. They can help you know how to act properly and look serious and taken seriously.
This style feels like a alleyway with a camera in it.
New day should be finished. Even if big e is back.
That's the dumbest most surface level idea for a new day split I've ever heard. Do better Andy..... lol
Andy and Adam lol my god this is an annoying pairing 😭
They’ve been dead long before this. Should have broken up 2 years ago at least…. lol
mjf took a shot at bully ray
lol good
Should have split up 10 years ago
The street prophets which tag team are they again, where they the two guys with Bobby Lashley at the end of his run in the WWE, if those where the guys what little popularity they had Fizzled out when they where paired with Bobby Lashley.
Looks like Andy has toned down his toxicness
And Adam has gained weight and become Geordie...
@@tomseville2345 body shaming isn’t cool….just attack his awful personality and takes
The New Day was overrated anyway
Dont lie. Over as 👠 and 👶 with a dead gimmick . High Merch sales. Overated?😂🤣
Who was asking for the Bloodline to headline a PPV anyway? People are already sick of them
First
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And no one cared
What if kofi also turns heel, like a brotherly thing, he gives in to Xavier cheating to win, helps him and they go on a heel run together.