I can't wait for the HD. Thanks for being the first to give us a look. I've been waiting on someone to show us one and you've made my day. Keep up the great videos brother.
I love the mobula7 it's nice to have a micro that's capable of flying outdoors and still do acro pretty well. I can't fly my 5inch at work but I get to fly the mobula7 in places I wouldn't be able to normally fly. maybe one day I will get the HD version.
Do you think the 3S FC would be better used in a stripped down reworking of this instead of carrying an HD camera and limited to 40mm props? Maybe something closer to the old BAT-100 but with 3S? Perhaps Kabab FPV's "Toothpick" frame.
Out flying with a friend tonight and this model was the subject of conversation. Get home, you have a review up. I feel this may be one of the top of the current gang of HD whoops that are so popular. I simply loved the comparison to the tiny Leader. Great work.
Keep in mind Andy, these are cine-whoops:-). Whoops have always had these flying issues, the added weight of HD equipment just adds to the problem. At some point you just need more disc area. Looks like we still can’t have everything! Love your reviews!
Actually the original mobula7 has none of these characterstics and the tiny leader is hard to trick out. but those are rare cases. the gt7 and gt8 also didnt have these characteristics. cheers
thanks for the review AndyRC. Would love to see some 1102/1103 7500kv on 3S. I feel like the sizing of the motors is very important for this size craft!
Okay I see it in the video but I must confirm. Am I really looking at a frikin 3S Crazybee F4 single board solution? If that thing is as reliable as the 2S version then the split-like camera frame I'm designing is going to be frikin stellar!
@AndyRC How would you compare this whoop to the beta85xHD. Im trying to figure out which whoop id like to purchase. Obviously the beta85xHD has had some known issues but im still not dissuaded from purchasing it considering all the great videos out there with it. Specifically drone camps beta85xHD videos.
Just got My Mobula HD. Have you tried the mockingbird settings on yours? Looking for some help going through the camera settings. Do you plan on doing a follow up video now that they are being delivered to users? Thanks as always!!!
Great Vid Andy... are you saying the Mobula7 HD has "Yaw Washout" that the Mobula7 regular model doesn't? Or is the HD one just the same as the regular Mobula7? I have a bunch of Mobula7's and looking at getting the HD one too. Thanks.
Nice, I fly an et100 in the winter and take it out in the summer when I need a fix at lunch + small parks gazebos and buildings. I run the GnB 450mah 2s 80-160c I also run the TATTU 450mah 75c 3s packs... the difference to me is the added authority "never bottom out" acceleration is superior but flips out once and a while? Digital idle up to 7 any ideas on how to eliminate them for peace of mind? Cheers From 🇨🇦
Great review as always! Andy which one would you recommend between the M7 HD and the fullspeed tinyleader HD? There's also the URUAV UR 85 HD coming out soon and I'll bet we'll see a Trashcan HD too...
Andy about happymodel and eachine, within the trashcan, eachine literally went to happymoddel and asked for a mobula 7 with v3 frame and much better specs, so basically a mobula 7 v2, but eachine branded. Thats why there are all trashcan components going out for mobula 7, but branded happymodel now, aftwr the trashcan has been released for a while. Great video!
I have a direct contact with happymodel which is how I have the model my conclusion on the frames was not a guess. Cheers. But to counter your conclusion. Why does the happymodel have the clips for an LED light but has no LEDs? ;-)
@@AndyRCchannel i dont know but you can check and an happymodel back led strip has been released, probably will come with the hd version, but that i dont know, but i mean look at the new canopy for the mobula 7, eos 2 camera capable, same color as trashcans, not a coincidece, new happymoddels vtx exactly the same as trashcans, etc
happymodel say that it wont come with an led on the back. but we are 25 days from release at this point and people change their minds but what I was getting at is that your comment appears as fact when it is just a guess correct?
@@AndyRCchannel fact, i got it from a reviewer i dont remember his name lol he explained it in a video about the trashcan, it seemed legit, and i mean it matches with the products bow available from happymoddel, same canopy and frame are exact, and motors are also made by happymoddel and vtx are the same so im pretty sure its true, it would be too much coincidence in my opinion
@@AndyRCchannel although it is just my opinion im sure other people will think that happymoddel copied eachine but thats more like eachines style of making products lol
Hi Andy wondering if you could help me please ive just got the mobiula 7 hd and Ive broke the tiny connector on the turtle 2 osd control lead that comes out of the quad the wire is fine but connector is broke.😞do you know the name of the connector so I can buy a new one ?If you could help me I would appreciate it thanks
if the batteries are charged at room temperature which these were and my flying field backs onto my house then the cold will actually benefit, that didn't use to be the case when we weren't demanding high current draw from our smaller stater low rpm motors. But modern components drawing huge current generates a lot of heat, especially setups like this where we are demanding such high amps. Its heat that destroys batteries, it causes oxygen to be present in the chemistry of the lipo which is why an abused lipo goes puffy and its heat that does that not cold. If they are kept in the cold or charged in the cold then performance will be effected but if they are charged at room temp and take off at room temp the cold should help keep the internals cooler so in these tests the cold should have helped. in fact thunder power put aluminum plates between the cells to dissipate the heat which is why they are expensive but effective. There is a lot of wrong info out there on lipos. It was correct about two years ago but not now.
Good review, Andy. Yeah, I'd probably go with a good 2 or 2.5 inch quad for a superlight HD setup. Though I do like how much they were able to cram in such a small frame.
Hi Andy, what reciever did you use on the mobula , the XM+ ?? as all of them I see either have no reciever or the non EU and I bought my Tarnis in the UK so I assume I need to buy the no reciever one and buy a reciever?
Does the Mobula 7 have a ufl socket for its vtx out of the box? I'm not upgrading the fpv camera, just the antenna. Will a Lumenier Axiis Micro ufl antenna go in a Mobula 7's standard vtx? I'm planning to fit one inside when my quad gets here, and hopefully i won't have to solder anything for an antenna upgrade.
any idea how to bindit and set it up for jr9503 transmitter and actually get it to work. i fllowed the spektrum instructions as it is spektrum model of mobula but nothing works the channels in the receiver section are crazy. throttle on one of the axularry channels yaw on roll channel etc, and nothing works to fix it i wanted to get into this hobby but seems i only wasted my money.
I feel something in there wasn't quite right. A motor will always draw MORE current with a higher voltage. The voltage increase defeats the internal resistance of the motor and it will accept more Amps. The ESC can only ever push the Amps that the motor will accept at a given voltage. Race copters on 6s use less amps because the KV of the motors have been changed to = the same wattage at the increased voltage. So 20v x10A is 200W now i want 30v so 6.6A will do. Same thing. If we just plopped 6s onto 4s motors they would draw drastically MORE amps. So a 3s battery would technically need to have more ampacity as compared to a 2s on this quad. This stresses the motors far more though, because with the increased voltage the increased AMPS produce more heat/
Expanding on that a bit more, a 3s with a lower C rating such as this one will sag far sooner than the 2s. (at a given throttle value. it will 'perform' far better as a function of increased RPM's obviously) For example, the 3s may have a 20A draw thanks to it's higher voltage, and thanks to it's lower C-rating, it will sag immediately compared to the 2s, which is only asked to put out about 12-14A, and which actually has a HIGHER ampacity.
Andy, speaking of 2S and 3S punch. It is very related to size of props and props quality and material. Props sounds like spinning faster but maybe props are flexing cause it's made of soft material. Gemfan got dig banch of whoop props recently. Have you try those?
Hey Andy have you found any other solution to that self roll/ jerky issue ? I just rebuilt one but with out the caddx and now it has that random jerk to it where it like snap rolls to one side a little bit. Any advice is appreciated
The pitching/dirty air from the ducs is disappointing. I have the original DYS ELF and the crazy pitching on hard maneuvers makes it not fun to fly. I ended up just cutting off the ducs. Did the original Mobula7 having have the pitch issue?
no it did not, I think just because its very light. but then people complained that the grame kept breaking so they have made the frame stronger and used it on this. you cant have both it seems
Great video Andy, would it be fair to say that the HD recording from the runcam split 2 is way better on the HD Geprc GEP-CX Cygnet than the HD recording on the Mobula 7? What are your thoughts Andy and if you agree why is it so much better? Thanks mate Wayne
they are very close at this point i would say. the turtle wins for its microphone the split wins for its camera controls which betaflight doesnt natively support
I am wondering why the vendors do not build buzzers into their whoops by default. It's really hard finding such small copters outdoors in some distance, especially in rural environment. Even if the motors are abused as buzzers by DSHOT commands, these are not load enough to be heared from more than few meters distance in a silent environment. I have an old Beta 75 Pro still with F3 controller, which at least has two pins for soldering a buzzer to, what I have done using the smallest buzzer offered by BetaFPV. This works great and makes things much more simple. But I have seen that some newer FCs, such as the BetaFPV F4 with integrated receiver don't have that pins anymore. No idea about the Mobula FCs. When buying my next whoop (e.g. my first cine whoop), a buzzer or at least the pads for adding one is a MUST requirement for me.
Its quite simple really. all comes down to weight. the tiny props and the added weight of the hd camera and 3s battery is pushing it as it is. however I can confirm the dshot is by far loud enough on this model to find it as I lost it many times and in loud windy conditions. the original mobula7 had a buzzer because it could afford it weight wise and you could add one to this. but it would only make its yaw washout worse.
Great review.... I have seen other videos of the Mobula HD and it had awful unuseable amounts of Jello. Your unit has almost none to a very small amount of Jello. I am shocked at how little jello we see in your video compared to many other HD whoops your looks like it is very smooth. What are your thoughts on the amount of Jello?
Good point about the light levels, too, Andy. I never had real issues with jello (on my 2" & 3" with RC Split) until I headed south during last summer's heat wave!
I like my Mobula 7. I didn't know there was an HD version. I fly 1S indoors since my house is much messier and I crash in to things a lot more on 2S. I just ordered a Tiny Hawk. Thanks for the video!
My take on "cinewhoops" is that they are meant to provide more cinematic footage, like a mavic etc... But they can get into way tighter spaces. Try some slower flights in angle or horizon maybe? Edit: Oh you did. It's not quite go pro footage obviously, but this is what i would want something like this for.
I just like to rip the whoop about outside, flying them in the house is no use. Safe enough to fly at high speed around the hood without maiming anybody, great for practice, having HD footage is just a nice bonus. Too cold for flying just now though so sit back and let the cinewhoop market develop.
Love my Mobula7, and admit I am now bias. Hoping you will review the public release to evaluate the modifications that have taken place. I respect and value your honest opinion. Cheers!
This is the problem the original was so good so when I poke holes in this one the fans arnt gonna like it and come up with excuses for it. But I'm not gonna hide anything. My job is to direct people where to spend their cash. Cheers
Hi what are flight times at indoor style flying ? are you considering battery temperature when comparing punch and flighttime outdoors ? especially at this time in year ? still waiting for spcmaker k19....... thanks
The answer to that is towards the end of the video. As for considering the tempretaure all the batteries were subject to the same tempretaure so can you advise what you mean by the word consider? The results I observed all matched the maths that I calculated before the flight so regardless to the tempretaure can you create a counter argument for the maths other than what I observed and felt through the sticks? There is an indoor flight at room tempretaure with a longer flight time if that is what you are referring to
thanks for the reply. so 2s 300mah gives almost 4 minutes , 3s would be interesting with energy demand at low loads for comparison. for the temperature thing, just learned from my winter flying to care about battery temp. placing them on heater outlet of car or charging just before use. mine are cooling down fast especially when exposed to wind from flying or props. ok im in the alps .... depending on power used even had them cooling faster than heating from use and creating voltage drops beyond flyable. realy bad internal resistance going to lower temps. thanks again
my flying field is next to my house so they took off at room temperature, we also demand so much from these systems that the batteries heat themselves up during the flight. This is actually bad and is what causes them to puff so you could say in this instance the cold temps were doing them a favor providing that they were not left or charged outside which there werent. on the plus side the lipos make nice hand warmers for when we land
Motors 10000KV are burning esc. They have now 9000KV version. Do you think its safe now? I want to buy Mobula 7hd, but im afraid. Maybe i buy uruav85hd. Thank you.
Haha. The blade torrent 110 is 2-3s capable and had only 6amp all in one esc's. It worked well... until you changed the JST connector to xt30...then you just magic smoked the ESC. The initial change to 3s gives bit more power or punch but not enough to say it's double the power on 3s. I'm not sure what's the point of putting 3s on a 65-85mm frame... It's just an overkill and not needed. Oh and the extra weight for the HD footage is not worth it on a tiny thing like this.
The 3S is highly experimental. Within a few weeks, most people report that it fries the esc or the 5v regulator on the f4. Some people fried their esc in a few minutes. See comments here below. Search "3S".
Excellent review, I have a question though and I'm not sure if its something on my end but in your second flight with the Mob7 Hd in the top right corner of your footage there were lines, Is this common with the turtle? I have a V2 in an acrobrat and it does the same thing sometimes.
A couple things. I just received the turtle v2 a few weeks ago and it came with the plate that keeps the card from ejecting so maybe it will be included by the time they release this. Also you forgot to mention the Beta85x as a competitor. That bird is shipping now. Looking forward to your comparison!
Yeah. I think they'll be getting my money when this one drops. Looks pretty good. Hope they keep coming up with better 2s and 3s battery options for quads this size. Nice review was always. Thanks for sharing.
@@hildy2222 Ahh thank you , just wanted something to start out with to try and get used to controls etc without crashing all the time , Much appreciated bud
@@cymap No problem. A simulator really helps and then get a tiny whoop like the eachine e010s was my first fpv quad and it still flies awesome. Even the $20 walmart quads are good enough to learn controls line of sight but avoid wifi fpv.
@@AndyRCchannel sweet!, now stop sitting at your computer and go out and fly. It may be cold with snow on the ground but looks F***ing awesome through your goggles!
Hasn't the tech leapt forward in the last 6 months. I really don't need a cinewhoop as I have no desire to see my multiple crashes in HD. Great for the good fliers though _It's got so bad that I've passed on all of my small FPV quads as I can't fly them and now struggle to see them too_
@@AndyRCchannel I have done and crash even more frequently on the sims. I'm 63 and I doubt that my skills and coordination are going to get any better as time passes and they will probably get worse. Everyone should know when to call time on some activities.
Have. Search and see if one exists ;-) I think tattu do one but its got a lower C rating. might be worth trying though because according to the current meter the provided 3s battery reached 60C
@@AndyRCchannel I'm torn between this (or one like it) and a 3". This has the appeal that I could fly around my yard but I worry about the range with those tiny whoop antennas compared to a 3".
@@AndyRCchannel One other thing to note. Did you do these two flights back to back using the 2s first and then the 3s? If it started out cold (even exposed for a few minutes) then that would explain the voltage sag on the 3s. I've had perfectly good 4s batteries usually good for 4 minute flights sag below 13v within 30 seconds in cold weather (if the battery started out cold).
Thanks for your honest review, i am of the opinion that the Mobula 7 HD is the most complete whoop. HD Camera, Low KV Motors, F4 FC and it can fly with different cell numbers up to 3. But looking at the actual price with 140 € I will probably buy the normal Mobula 7 for less money and with charger.
@@AndyRCchannel haha it's so sad but true. I don't understand why people are so critical nowadays. I always appreciate the hard work you put into your channel, regardless of the bums that like to complain. Misery loves company.
Thank you. I Kind of expected it. the original mobula7 broke the mold of the bad flying power whoops so when I show this one having some yaw washout issues its my fault because i didnt fly it in the right place or i didn't fly it as its intended for. Its not nice or easy having to poke holes in a product which is why a lot of people will just say everything great so the backlash is all part of the job. I would have loved nothing more than this thing to fly as good as the none hd version but it seems we are pushing the limit of the tech even though the tech is still very impressive.
Yet another great, honest review! The drone itself does look quite good. Some people may prefer the floaty descent but I assume it means you don't have much control when it does that.
They do sell a mobile S7 LED boards like $3 online I ordered one from eBay I think it was 349 free shipping. It even has that little mobula symbol just like the trashcan has one
Nice whoop design Happymodel. Almost no jello on hd which is good. Tiny leader design look like retarded whoop. But, please remove that pitch back/yaw washout defect. It is so annoying. I am stop buying the bnf whoop because that washout issue.
@@seanmetzger4780 Like some bnf micro has to do with it, in example runcam split lens got jello. Hope they solve that kind of defect before sending to buyer. Recently some other whoop got jello, you need to re-mounting the camera and so on and on and on. And some other whoop brand can not be tune at all the pitch back defect.
It depends how much you value HD footage. to me they are two different types of models but the original mobula7 flies better. I dont know how well its gonna fly with this new frame though as they are gonna be swapping it out for this one and it didnt fare well on the trashcan
I love the on-board split camera setups I think in time these will get better in Quality and I can see these fitted yo every Quad you own. The feed from them needs to be better as I find the Quality of the feed from the CADDX TURTLE V2 to be below the foxeer monsters I like to use, but of course you cant stick them in a Mobula7. The Mobula7 dose look fantastic for them cold days for indoor flying and this will give you the ability to do some chase flying of other models. So cumming back to it whoops are missing the HD recording splits for all types of Quads Whoops are the thing to go. WOW look at the nice bit of tec you have, Strings, keyboard, Drums and mixing TALENTED BY FAR.
Mobula7 HD: bit.ly/2HGaeoq
300mah 2S Lipo: bit.ly/2BgwShg
TinyLeader HD: bit.ly/2Ct6eSj
I kept hearing that there would be more and better whoops coming. I'm glad I held off. If I get one, it would be this model. Another great job, Andy!
I can't wait for the HD. Thanks for being the first to give us a look. I've been waiting on someone to show us one and you've made my day. Keep up the great videos brother.
Ah thanks a lot
This is my favourite RC channel. Thank you Andy for your thorough reviews.
I love the mobula7 it's nice to have a micro that's capable of flying outdoors and still do acro pretty well.
I can't fly my 5inch at work but I get to fly the mobula7 in places I wouldn't be able to normally fly. maybe one day I will get the HD version.
I love how the new Mobula 7HD looks. It looks sinister and a lot like the Ghost in the Halo videogames.
oh my gosh it does lol
Ah, I see you are a man of culture as well...
It is a sinister toy.
Do you think the 3S FC would be better used in a stripped down reworking of this instead of carrying an HD camera and limited to 40mm props? Maybe something closer to the old BAT-100 but with 3S? Perhaps Kabab FPV's "Toothpick" frame.
Out flying with a friend tonight and this model was the subject of conversation.
Get home, you have a review up.
I feel this may be one of the top of the current gang of HD whoops that are so popular. I simply loved the comparison to the tiny Leader. Great work.
Keep in mind Andy, these are cine-whoops:-). Whoops have always had these flying issues, the added weight of HD equipment just adds to the problem. At some point you just need more disc area. Looks like we still can’t have everything! Love your reviews!
Actually the original mobula7 has none of these characterstics and the tiny leader is hard to trick out. but those are rare cases. the gt7 and gt8 also didnt have these characteristics. cheers
thanks for the review AndyRC. Would love to see some 1102/1103 7500kv on 3S. I feel like the sizing of the motors is very important for this size craft!
This “cinewhoop” class is becoming quite crowded and fun:) Definitely looking to get one and this seems up to snuff. Also curious about the UR85HD.
Still worth buying today?
I have only been in this hobby for 6 months..crazy how far it has come in such a short period of time. Nice review, Mr. AndyRC!
thank you and welcome to this great hobby
Okay I see it in the video but I must confirm. Am I really looking at a frikin 3S Crazybee F4 single board solution? If that thing is as reliable as the 2S version then the split-like camera frame I'm designing is going to be frikin stellar!
It is however at this size 3s isnt that helpful. But I know you bob you are thinking about it for something else aint ya? ;)
@@AndyRCchannel I don't care about this size 😏. You know it.
@AndyRC How would you compare this whoop to the beta85xHD. Im trying to figure out which whoop id like to purchase. Obviously the beta85xHD has had some known issues but im still not dissuaded from purchasing it considering all the great videos out there with it. Specifically drone camps beta85xHD videos.
At 31.50 .... that's the drone's camera quality ? (1080p) ? What image format is that ? Thanks
Looks like the leader on 3s is comparative to the regular mobula7 HD on 2s.
a test between all the new 3s(2s) whoops would be interesting. I want to buy a 75mm whoop but really don't know which one
I have the Mobula7 and I would love to have the Mob HD. Nice demo Andy and Happy flying! from Atlanta, Georgia👍 🤣👍!
i ordered the mobula7 v1, you got it also? it was like half the price of a v2 HD
Just got My Mobula HD. Have you tried the mockingbird settings on yours? Looking for some help going through the camera settings. Do you plan on doing a follow up video now that they are being delivered to users?
Thanks as always!!!
Great Vid Andy... are you saying the Mobula7 HD has "Yaw Washout" that the Mobula7 regular model doesn't? Or is the HD one just the same as the regular Mobula7? I have a bunch of Mobula7's and looking at getting the HD one too. Thanks.
should avoid 3s to prevent a burn of FC?
Nice, I fly an et100 in the winter and take it out in the summer when I need a fix at lunch + small parks gazebos and buildings. I run the GnB 450mah 2s 80-160c I also run the TATTU 450mah 75c 3s packs... the difference to me is the added authority "never bottom out" acceleration is superior but flips out once and a while? Digital idle up to 7 any ideas on how to eliminate them for peace of mind? Cheers
From 🇨🇦
Great review as always! Andy which one would you recommend between the M7 HD and the fullspeed tinyleader HD? There's also the URUAV UR 85 HD coming out soon and I'll bet we'll see a Trashcan HD too...
How do you bind it to OpenTX EU-LBT? I only see "Compatible FRSky Non-EU Receiver" on the store page
Andy about happymodel and eachine, within the trashcan, eachine literally went to happymoddel and asked for a mobula 7 with v3 frame and much better specs, so basically a mobula 7 v2, but eachine branded. Thats why there are all trashcan components going out for mobula 7, but branded happymodel now, aftwr the trashcan has been released for a while. Great video!
I have a direct contact with happymodel which is how I have the model my conclusion on the frames was not a guess. Cheers. But to counter your conclusion. Why does the happymodel have the clips for an LED light but has no LEDs? ;-)
@@AndyRCchannel i dont know but you can check and an happymodel back led strip has been released, probably will come with the hd version, but that i dont know, but i mean look at the new canopy for the mobula 7, eos 2 camera capable, same color as trashcans, not a coincidece, new happymoddels vtx exactly the same as trashcans, etc
happymodel say that it wont come with an led on the back. but we are 25 days from release at this point and people change their minds but what I was getting at is that your comment appears as fact when it is just a guess correct?
@@AndyRCchannel fact, i got it from a reviewer i dont remember his name lol he explained it in a video about the trashcan, it seemed legit, and i mean it matches with the products bow available from happymoddel, same canopy and frame are exact, and motors are also made by happymoddel and vtx are the same so im pretty sure its true, it would be too much coincidence in my opinion
@@AndyRCchannel although it is just my opinion im sure other people will think that happymoddel copied eachine but thats more like eachines style of making products lol
Hi Andy wondering if you could help me please ive just got the mobiula 7 hd and Ive broke the tiny connector on the turtle 2 osd control lead that comes out of the quad the wire is fine but connector is broke.😞do you know the name of the connector so I can buy a new one ?If you could help me I would appreciate it thanks
would be interested to see if the flight time improves in summer with nice warm batteries
if the batteries are charged at room temperature which these were and my flying field backs onto my house then the cold will actually benefit, that didn't use to be the case when we weren't demanding high current draw from our smaller stater low rpm motors. But modern components drawing huge current generates a lot of heat, especially setups like this where we are demanding such high amps. Its heat that destroys batteries, it causes oxygen to be present in the chemistry of the lipo which is why an abused lipo goes puffy and its heat that does that not cold. If they are kept in the cold or charged in the cold then performance will be effected but if they are charged at room temp and take off at room temp the cold should help keep the internals cooler so in these tests the cold should have helped. in fact thunder power put aluminum plates between the cells to dissipate the heat which is why they are expensive but effective. There is a lot of wrong info out there on lipos. It was correct about two years ago but not now.
And that my friends is exactly how you do a review and why Andy RC has his followers .. cheers man .> perfectly described and explained
Ah bless ya thanks if only everyone agreed haha cheers made the 3 days of work worth it cheers
Hey mate. I had reviewed this drone too, for the italian public. Have you had any issue of esc burn?
Would one be able to easily switch to the M7 v2 frame? From a M7 owner and one that has flown with both, I think that makes all the difference.
Good review, Andy. Yeah, I'd probably go with a good 2 or 2.5 inch quad for a superlight HD setup. Though I do like how much they were able to cram in such a small frame.
Mobula7 HD or beta85x HD???? Wich one would you choose for outdoor cinematic style with a bit of freestyle time to time ?
Hi Andy, what reciever did you use on the mobula , the XM+ ?? as all of them I see either have no reciever or the non EU and I bought my Tarnis in the UK so I assume I need to buy the no reciever one and buy a reciever?
Does the Mobula 7 have a ufl socket for its vtx out of the box? I'm not upgrading the fpv camera, just the antenna.
Will a Lumenier Axiis Micro ufl antenna go in a Mobula 7's standard vtx? I'm planning to fit one inside when my quad gets here, and hopefully i won't have to solder anything for an antenna upgrade.
any idea how to bindit and set it up for jr9503 transmitter and actually get it to work. i fllowed the spektrum instructions as it is spektrum model of mobula but nothing works the channels in the receiver section are crazy. throttle on one of the axularry channels yaw on roll channel etc, and nothing works to fix it i wanted to get into this hobby but seems i only wasted my money.
Do you have a spare one I can buy?
Hi Andy quick question bud will the 2s battery you have linked under the mobula 7 hd link fit the mobula 7 hd?
What camera did you yes to record the HD parts in ...is that on the drone when you switched from FPV 2 HD?
hi Andy can you tell me is this support esc beeper on this model thank you
I feel something in there wasn't quite right. A motor will always draw MORE current with a higher voltage. The voltage increase defeats the internal resistance of the motor and it will accept more Amps. The ESC can only ever push the Amps that the motor will accept at a given voltage. Race copters on 6s use less amps because the KV of the motors have been changed to = the same wattage at the increased voltage. So 20v x10A is 200W now i want 30v so 6.6A will do. Same thing. If we just plopped 6s onto 4s motors they would draw drastically MORE amps.
So a 3s battery would technically need to have more ampacity as compared to a 2s on this quad. This stresses the motors far more though, because with the increased voltage the increased AMPS produce more heat/
Expanding on that a bit more, a 3s with a lower C rating such as this one will sag far sooner than the 2s. (at a given throttle value. it will 'perform' far better as a function of increased RPM's obviously) For example, the 3s may have a 20A draw thanks to it's higher voltage, and thanks to it's lower C-rating, it will sag immediately compared to the 2s, which is only asked to put out about 12-14A, and which actually has a HIGHER ampacity.
Andy, speaking of 2S and 3S punch. It is very related to size of props and props quality and material. Props sounds like spinning faster but maybe props are flexing cause it's made of soft material. Gemfan got dig banch of whoop props recently. Have you try those?
I have not its a good shout. the tiny leader props bend less I thought about trying those
Hope they work out the issues before release. I'm sure they will as they wouldn't want a TinyLeader debacle
Hey Andy have you found any other solution to that self roll/ jerky issue ? I just rebuilt one but with out the caddx and now it has that random jerk to it where it like snap rolls to one side a little bit. Any advice is appreciated
The pitching/dirty air from the ducs is disappointing. I have the original DYS ELF and the crazy pitching on hard maneuvers makes it not fun to fly. I ended up just cutting off the ducs. Did the original Mobula7 having have the pitch issue?
no it did not, I think just because its very light. but then people complained that the grame kept breaking so they have made the frame stronger and used it on this. you cant have both it seems
Great video Andy, would it be fair to say that the HD recording from the runcam split 2 is way better on the HD Geprc GEP-CX Cygnet than the HD recording on the Mobula 7? What are your thoughts Andy and if you agree why is it so much better? Thanks mate Wayne
they are very close at this point i would say. the turtle wins for its microphone the split wins for its camera controls which betaflight doesnt natively support
Really nice video, as always. But I think that battery indicator is for notifying you that the battery you just plugged in is dead.
I am wondering why the vendors do not build buzzers into their whoops by default. It's really hard finding such small copters outdoors in some distance, especially in rural environment. Even if the motors are abused as buzzers by DSHOT commands, these are not load enough to be heared from more than few meters distance in a silent environment.
I have an old Beta 75 Pro still with F3 controller, which at least has two pins for soldering a buzzer to, what I have done using the smallest buzzer offered by BetaFPV. This works great and makes things much more simple. But I have seen that some newer FCs, such as the BetaFPV F4 with integrated receiver don't have that pins anymore. No idea about the Mobula FCs.
When buying my next whoop (e.g. my first cine whoop), a buzzer or at least the pads for adding one is a MUST requirement for me.
Its quite simple really. all comes down to weight. the tiny props and the added weight of the hd camera and 3s battery is pushing it as it is. however I can confirm the dshot is by far loud enough on this model to find it as I lost it many times and in loud windy conditions. the original mobula7 had a buzzer because it could afford it weight wise and you could add one to this. but it would only make its yaw washout worse.
Great review.... I have seen other videos of the Mobula HD and it had awful unuseable amounts of Jello. Your unit has almost none to a very small amount of Jello. I am shocked at how little jello we see in your video compared to many other HD whoops your looks like it is very smooth. What are your thoughts on the amount of Jello?
Who's video did u watch? Thx
yes I can beleive that. I thought about trying the tiny leader props
Good point about the light levels, too, Andy. I never had real issues with jello (on my 2" & 3" with RC Split) until I headed south during last summer's heat wave!
I like my Mobula 7. I didn't know there was an HD version. I fly 1S indoors since my house is much messier and I crash in to things a lot more on 2S. I just ordered a Tiny Hawk. Thanks for the video!
My take on "cinewhoops" is that they are meant to provide more cinematic footage, like a mavic etc... But they can get into way tighter spaces. Try some slower flights in angle or horizon maybe? Edit: Oh you did. It's not quite go pro footage obviously, but this is what i would want something like this for.
As I said I was covering everything
I just like to rip the whoop about outside, flying them in the house is no use. Safe enough to fly at high speed around the hood without maiming anybody, great for practice, having HD footage is just a nice bonus. Too cold for flying just now though so sit back and let the cinewhoop market develop.
Love my Mobula7, and admit I am now bias. Hoping you will review the public release to evaluate the modifications that have taken place. I respect and value your honest opinion. Cheers!
This is the problem the original was so good so when I poke holes in this one the fans arnt gonna like it and come up with excuses for it. But I'm not gonna hide anything. My job is to direct people where to spend their cash. Cheers
Hi
what are flight times at indoor style flying ?
are you considering battery temperature when comparing punch and flighttime outdoors ?
especially at this time in year ?
still waiting for spcmaker k19.......
thanks
The answer to that is towards the end of the video. As for considering the tempretaure all the batteries were subject to the same tempretaure so can you advise what you mean by the word consider? The results I observed all matched the maths that I calculated before the flight so regardless to the tempretaure can you create a counter argument for the maths other than what I observed and felt through the sticks? There is an indoor flight at room tempretaure with a longer flight time if that is what you are referring to
thanks for the reply.
so 2s 300mah gives almost 4 minutes , 3s would be interesting with energy demand at low loads for comparison.
for the temperature thing, just learned from my winter flying to care about battery temp. placing them on heater outlet of car or charging just before use.
mine are cooling down fast especially when exposed to wind from flying or props.
ok im in the alps ....
depending on power used even had them cooling faster than heating from use and creating voltage drops beyond flyable. realy bad internal resistance going to lower temps.
thanks again
the problem with 3s indoors is that the copter becomes more clumsy and it better for 2s indoors... and outdoors ;)
my flying field is next to my house so they took off at room temperature, we also demand so much from these systems that the batteries heat themselves up during the flight. This is actually bad and is what causes them to puff so you could say in this instance the cold temps were doing them a favor providing that they were not left or charged outside which there werent. on the plus side the lipos make nice hand warmers for when we land
I couldn't find any comments on the reviewers videos for this whoop saying Andy was not an expert, maybe they removed it?!
Excellent stuff as always. Little confused on one point. The receiver is both EU and non EU compatable?
Yes d8 mode for eu and d16 for fcc
@@AndyRCchannel sweet, thank you for the reply.
Motors 10000KV are burning esc. They have now 9000KV version. Do you think its safe now? I want to buy Mobula 7hd, but im afraid. Maybe i buy uruav85hd. Thank you.
nice whoops and wonderful video as always! GJ Andy
5 amp ESC's on a 3S?, even with low weight and small propellors. Interesting. Thanks Andy, Jeff
Haha. The blade torrent 110 is 2-3s capable and had only 6amp all in one esc's. It worked well... until you changed the JST connector to xt30...then you just magic smoked the ESC. The initial change to 3s gives bit more power or punch but not enough to say it's double the power on 3s. I'm not sure what's the point of putting 3s on a 65-85mm frame... It's just an overkill and not needed. Oh and the extra weight for the HD footage is not worth it on a tiny thing like this.
The 3S is highly experimental. Within a few weeks, most people report that it fries the esc or the 5v regulator on the f4. Some people fried their esc in a few minutes. See comments here below. Search "3S".
I was about to get the Mobula 7 today until I saw this video. I’m waiting for this now :D
I need the Mobula 7 HD. Great review and comparison between the closet competition. Cheers.
Hi Andy!
Do you know if I can bind mobula 7 hd with “frsky non eu” reciver with x lite pro or taranis x9 lite?
thanks!!!
Excellent review, I have a question though and I'm not sure if its something on my end but in your second flight with the Mob7 Hd in the top right corner of your footage there were lines, Is this common with the turtle? I have a V2 in an acrobrat and it does the same thing sometimes.
yeah it was intermittent but only on 3s not 2s I think it was down to the voltage sag and it struggling for power
A couple things. I just received the turtle v2 a few weeks ago and it came with the plate that keeps the card from ejecting so maybe it will be included by the time they release this. Also you forgot to mention the Beta85x as a competitor. That bird is shipping now. Looking forward to your comparison!
Its amazing they can fit all that stuff in such a small package...
Yeah. I think they'll be getting my money when this one drops. Looks pretty good. Hope they keep coming up with better 2s and 3s battery options for quads this size. Nice review was always. Thanks for sharing.
Andy~~ I just put this on a 85mm frame and it flies amazing ~~~ it's so efficient it flies on 1s!!!
What's your PIDS and post setting on this Mobula7 HD? can you post it here? Thank you
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Complete noob question but do any of these smaller drones have self levelling ..ie when you release the controls they hover?
When you're in angle mode or horizon mode, yes there is self leveling. Acro/air mode has no self leveling.
@@hildy2222 Ahh thank you , just wanted something to start out with to try and get used to controls etc without crashing all the time , Much appreciated bud
@@cymap No problem. A simulator really helps and then get a tiny whoop like the eachine e010s was my first fpv quad and it still flies awesome. Even the $20 walmart quads are good enough to learn controls line of sight but avoid wifi fpv.
@@hildy2222 Yep Just ordered my frsky Radio and am going to buy The Liftoff sim and then get a small whoop and go from there. Thanks for the advice
tell me how to record HD video sir?
What receiver version did you get to fly within the UK? Sucks that you cant get a Frsky EU version?
u can get it to work with the eu version. Use d8 mode. dont need telem anyways and the rssi still feeds to the osd
@@AndyRCchannel sweet!, now stop sitting at your computer and go out and fly. It may be cold with snow on the ground but looks F***ing awesome through your goggles!
Thank you Andy. Thorough as always.
Quick question are they going to release just the canopy so we can put it in a regular v2 frame?
RIPTIDE FPV yes , compatible for V2 frame
@@happymodelCN awesome thank you
How fast was it on 3s?
Hasn't the tech leapt forward in the last 6 months. I really don't need a cinewhoop as I have no desire to see my multiple crashes in HD. Great for the good fliers though
_It's got so bad that I've passed on all of my small FPV quads as I can't fly them and now struggle to see them too_
haha that made me laugh. but get on a sim some have tinywhoop sims
@@AndyRCchannel I have done and crash even more frequently on the sims.
I'm 63 and I doubt that my skills and coordination are going to get any better as time passes and they will probably get worse. Everyone should know when to call time on some activities.
I have the same problem people tell me my flying is improving.... iv been flying 28 years its only gonna get worse from here haha
Do you have a different (brand) similarly sized 3s to try it on? Maybe it is just a bad battery?
Have. Search and see if one exists ;-) I think tattu do one but its got a lower C rating. might be worth trying though because according to the current meter the provided 3s battery reached 60C
@@AndyRCchannel I'm torn between this (or one like it) and a 3". This has the appeal that I could fly around my yard but I worry about the range with those tiny whoop antennas compared to a 3".
@@AndyRCchannel One other thing to note. Did you do these two flights back to back using the 2s first and then the 3s? If it started out cold (even exposed for a few minutes) then that would explain the voltage sag on the 3s. I've had perfectly good 4s batteries usually good for 4 minute flights sag below 13v within 30 seconds in cold weather (if the battery started out cold).
Cool - I didn't even know this one was on the radar !
Nice job again Andy. Thank you for time sir.
How are the props attached? Friction fitting?
yes tention fit
@@AndyRCchannel I really want one of these but I've experienced enough props flying off to steer away me from buying one ☹️
andy are you in suffolk area? great vid!
nah couldnt be further away sadly. But I do come down south for ldo meets and events. ill be at MA5 and western park
Thanks for your honest review,
i am of the opinion that the Mobula 7 HD is the most complete whoop. HD Camera, Low KV Motors, F4 FC and it can fly with different cell numbers up to 3.
But looking at the actual price with 140 € I will probably buy the normal Mobula 7 for less money and with charger.
I always get
"can not ship to this location" when i try to order lipos from BG
Im in the uk?
that changed a few months ago have you tried recently?
900 views and not a single dislike. Nice Andy 👍
That won't last haha but thanks
@@AndyRCchannel haha it's so sad but true. I don't understand why people are so critical nowadays. I always appreciate the hard work you put into your channel, regardless of the bums that like to complain. Misery loves company.
Thank you. I Kind of expected it. the original mobula7 broke the mold of the bad flying power whoops so when I show this one having some yaw washout issues its my fault because i didnt fly it in the right place or i didn't fly it as its intended for. Its not nice or easy having to poke holes in a product which is why a lot of people will just say everything great so the backlash is all part of the job. I would have loved nothing more than this thing to fly as good as the none hd version but it seems we are pushing the limit of the tech even though the tech is still very impressive.
Yet another great, honest review! The drone itself does look quite good. Some people may prefer the floaty descent but I assume it means you don't have much control when it does that.
yeah the control is fine just decends slowly when flat but put it into a dive it acts normal
Hi Andy. How to connect 1s battery to xt30 ???
technically you would take it apart and wire up the terminals but the extra weight of the connector would cancel our the benefits id say.
They should do separate connection for normal 1s battery
for what reason?
@@AndyRCchannel so how can I connect normal 1s battery? If there's only xt30
They do sell a mobile S7 LED boards like $3 online I ordered one from eBay I think it was 349 free shipping. It even has that little mobula symbol just like the trashcan has one
Looking forward to trying this one out.
Defo a good indoor filming quad!
With antigravity off, they are less floaty!
Excellent in depth review Andy 👍👍
Just got one and it's my first proper drone for acro flight but I haven't a clue how to set it up I've got flysky great vids Dan Paddlesworth rc
Really want to do a cinematic vid using this I might buy one!
Great long review, you got around the whole quad I think.. Keep it up!
Nice job, Andy
Nice whoop design Happymodel. Almost no jello on hd which is good. Tiny leader design look like retarded whoop.
But, please remove that pitch back/yaw washout defect. It is so annoying. I am stop buying the bnf whoop because that washout issue.
What does a bnf whoop have to do w it. You just gotta tune it, like you would if you built your own.
@@seanmetzger4780 Like some bnf micro has to do with it, in example runcam split lens got jello. Hope they solve that kind of defect before sending to buyer. Recently some other whoop got jello, you need to re-mounting the camera and so on and on and on. And some other whoop brand can not be tune at all the pitch back defect.
Nice video bro...please send me the gimbal with who you made this video and if put action camera in the gimbal which drone should i get?
Thank you😉😉😉
I dont follow? there is no gimbal used in this video?
Sounds like as is, Mobula7 > Mobula7 HD, in regards to value vs. performance. Would you agree?
It depends how much you value HD footage. to me they are two different types of models but the original mobula7 flies better. I dont know how well its gonna fly with this new frame though as they are gonna be swapping it out for this one and it didnt fare well on the trashcan
I am thinking to buy one of these ones this October.
Nice review and comparison Andy!
Was waiting to see this thanks, I have the mobula7, does it fly like the 7.
No mobula 7 is lighter and has no yaw wash issues
Is the camera 16:9 or 4:3?
Both. Thx
I love the on-board split camera setups I think in time these will get better in Quality and I can see these fitted yo every Quad you own. The feed from them needs to be better as I find the Quality of the feed from the CADDX TURTLE V2 to be below the foxeer monsters I like to use, but of course you cant stick them in a Mobula7. The Mobula7 dose look fantastic for them cold days for indoor flying and this will give you the ability to do some chase flying of other models. So cumming back to it whoops are missing the HD recording splits for all types of Quads Whoops are the thing to go. WOW look at the nice bit of tec you have, Strings, keyboard, Drums and mixing TALENTED BY FAR.
when wil you get beta 85 hd?
I have it just having a few days off this one took a lot out of me. cheers
AndyRC nice!! Im beta biased so need to see the comparison!!
Thanks for the review man. Loved flying my Mobula7 around the house, until I lost signal and it fell in neighbor's salt water swimming pool.
damn that sucks, whys he got a salt water swimming poo.l he pretending hes in the sea?
@@AndyRCchannel Ha, I guess. I didn't ask.