I suffer with Dyscalculia, so having an electronic scoreboard is a must. A chalk/wipe board would be the least a venue should provide, and it would completely ruin my experience if they had neither. Agree 100% with what Matt said about the width of the oche, and the placement of it. That would definitely do my nut in! 😂 I'm not too bothered about noise when it comes to a bit of practice or a muck about with mates, but agree about sound levels if playing a league, county or cup game. Another great episode though chaps. Keep em coming 👍
For measurements, if the board height was low and you are taking the hypotenuse to then measure the length. If the length appears spot on is it not in fact too long because the height is too low?
Great fun guys keep the episodes coming! I would have gone higher on the house darts because the owner is trying to deal with theft and still provide sets but I understand your score nonetheless!
I'm a 2 min drive away from this venue, gutted to have missed you guys as had a feeling you would make an apperance. I did feel that some of the scores were very harsh especially when you have electronic scorers there.
No such thing as perfect.....well there is but it doesn't exist in reality lol, no good rating highly then finding something better as then you have no where to go scorewise
Tablet and TV is the way to go for scoring. Gives you and others watching the match a great view to follow along. Side note. If you guys keep giving out nit picky scores. Future venues might not allow you in. These are pubs and sports bars after all. Not PDC tournaments and stages. Remember your audience here is the common darts player not pro player. So maybe when you’re saying well this music is on or the oche isn’t wide enough or this wire is in the way. Just deal with it like the common darts player would have to and don’t drop a score so far down because of it.
I have a recommendation of somewhere to go! The Ship Inn at Dalkeith. A great pub that runs weekly ADC events (and other darts comps). It has 2 boards in the bar and 3 boards in a building out the back from the pub. Michael and Emma who run the pub are lovely too. I travel just over 50 miles to play in the ADC Vaults there with a couple of mates (and my wife even comes with us). I thoroughly recommend the Ship Inn as a darting venue.
If you view the board from the 10:00ish the oche seems much more on center than your original statement. The strap on the ceiling seems centered on the board and through the oche. IMHO
As far as scoreboards go. Marking on a blackboard or a whiteboard is a fundamental part in the development of players. I think they can be the most important part of young or new players’ development. So I’m 100% with Andy with regards to electronic scoreboards.
I play adc, which is perfect for tablets. Generally, higher standard players track your average ect and games on a round Robin, perfect for that. I also play local leagues where I feel it should be chalk or board only it learns people to count, work out for yourself, finishes, checkouts, etc. Darts is a lot easier if you can count. Marking helps so much with that
what is happening is you are putting the audio in stereo and most of our devices only have one speaker so you can hear one mic super loud and the other you can bearly hear fix it or i will give you a 2.
If theres only 2 people having a game (including me) then id rather use electronic as its faster, if theres a 3rd or more players then whiteboard so the people who are playing don't have to keep stopping to write scores etc.
Practice I use pen and paper, the league I’m in still uses a white board. If I’m at a tournament and there isn’t dart connect and tablets I wouldn’t go back
Why not drop the scoring system altogether and just focus on showcasing all the great places there are to play darts (warts and all). Where I live there are not that many choices any more and as @BrianNichols180 points out, if you keep giving harsh scores, where's the incentive to let you visit?
This is just getting ridiculous. At times you can see Matt just thinking what the hell is this guy on about? Andy is the most unlikeable person I have ever seen on TH-cam and that's quite a statement. Been watching the whole series and first time commenting. I'm sick of it. Matthew is an absolute expert and should get someone else and this could be way better.
@@missiondarts This is not a play. I don't want roles. I want to keep watching because half of it is absolutely great. I love the idea, a lot of respect towards Mission darts and all but this guy is just not interesting to watch (that's me being polite). I'd rather wallpaper the inside of my fridge than listen to Andy's voice. 👍🏻
Whiteboard every time for me although my pub team still uses blackboards! Electronic scoring is to easy for me and as far as I'm concerned it's a lazy way of scoring games
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This is my local, thanks for visiting. Gutted I wasn't there to meet the legends that are Andy and Matt
I suffer with Dyscalculia, so having an electronic scoreboard is a must. A chalk/wipe board would be the least a venue should provide, and it would completely ruin my experience if they had neither.
Agree 100% with what Matt said about the width of the oche, and the placement of it. That would definitely do my nut in! 😂
I'm not too bothered about noise when it comes to a bit of practice or a muck about with mates, but agree about sound levels if playing a league, county or cup game.
Another great episode though chaps. Keep em coming 👍
Another interesting looking one!
Love these episodes chaps!
Thanks, we will keep them coming :)
For measurements, if the board height was low and you are taking the hypotenuse to then measure the length. If the length appears spot on is it not in fact too long because the height is too low?
It's a fair point, but we do the best we can and mark them all the same
Great fun guys keep the episodes coming! I would have gone higher on the house darts because the owner is trying to deal with theft and still provide sets but I understand your score nonetheless!
I'm a 2 min drive away from this venue, gutted to have missed you guys as had a feeling you would make an apperance. I did feel that some of the scores were very harsh especially when you have electronic scorers there.
Love to see the boys take us to a venue THEY. Perceive as perfect
No such thing as perfect.....well there is but it doesn't exist in reality lol, no good rating highly then finding something better as then you have no where to go scorewise
Tablet and TV is the way to go for scoring. Gives you and others watching the match a great view to follow along.
Side note. If you guys keep giving out nit picky scores. Future venues might not allow you in. These are pubs and sports bars after all. Not PDC tournaments and stages. Remember your audience here is the common darts player not pro player. So maybe when you’re saying well this music is on or the oche isn’t wide enough or this wire is in the way. Just deal with it like the common darts player would have to and don’t drop a score so far down because of it.
For a Match yes, but when you’re having a pitch with mates black/white board is needed too. Facilities for both are the order of the Day!
So what you are saying is to give every venue 100/100? Regardless.
I have a recommendation of somewhere to go!
The Ship Inn at Dalkeith. A great pub that runs weekly ADC events (and other darts comps). It has 2 boards in the bar and 3 boards in a building out the back from the pub. Michael and Emma who run the pub are lovely too. I travel just over 50 miles to play in the ADC Vaults there with a couple of mates (and my wife even comes with us). I thoroughly recommend the Ship Inn as a darting venue.
For a walk-in, you need a whiteboard marker at least.
Shankhouse Club in Cramlington have just refitted to enable them to put on ADC events, well worth a visit
If you view the board from the 10:00ish the oche seems much more on center than your original statement. The strap on the ceiling seems centered on the board and through the oche. IMHO
it's one of those 'illusions' we can assure you it's too far right
Please come to splott Albion sports pavilion in Cardiff we have recently started and would love to have you review us. Big fans down here in Wales
Get to hare and hounds hindley would be surprised see what that gets 😂 definitely on the perception side of things
As far as scoreboards go. Marking on a blackboard or a whiteboard is a fundamental part in the development of players. I think they can be the most important part of young or new players’ development. So I’m 100% with Andy with regards to electronic scoreboards.
Need to get to the academy in Basingstoke
You guys need to rate
Mastin moor club
Mastin moor
Chesterfield
Really good set up.
Should definitely come to Riley’s in sollihull
I play adc, which is perfect for tablets. Generally, higher standard players track your average ect and games on a round Robin, perfect for that. I also play local leagues where I feel it should be chalk or board only it learns people to count, work out for yourself, finishes, checkouts, etc. Darts is a lot easier if you can count. Marking helps so much with that
Great Comments !
That bit at the bar was so awkward 😂
Might be worth putting the leader board in points order for the places you've visited at end of the video.
Something we are definitely gonna do :)
I look forward to the day Andy gives the bar a 10/10! 🤣🤣
So does he :)
Could you please come to Partington working men’s club
Visit Valley Tavern in Caerphilly South Wales
what is happening is you are putting the audio in stereo and most of our devices only have one speaker so you can hear one mic super loud and the other you can bearly hear fix it or i will give you a 2.
The shadow cast by the light ring is annoying to my ryes
I use a 120 degree light and it’s perfect for me. I’m not a fan of these reach in ones
You guys are super critical, to be sure. Most pubs with darts don’t get close to the places you’re rating.
Oh there are some big scores to come and you will see why....
I'm assuming the North of Scotland is going to be well out of range for any visit, so I won't even bother suggesting a venue!
we have a long list now of places, some in Scotland, Wales etc...but there will be more series..
Whiteboard is best imo.... I like to see all the scores.
If theres only 2 people having a game (including me) then id rather use electronic as its faster, if theres a 3rd or more players then whiteboard so the people who are playing don't have to keep stopping to write scores etc.
Fair point :)
Practice I use pen and paper, the league I’m in still uses a white board. If I’m at a tournament and there isn’t dart connect and tablets I wouldn’t go back
Whiteboard is the best I think
Whiteboard, chalk board, tablet fine for me! But those silly electronic ones I don’t like
Have a pocket card for my checkouts
prefer old school blackboard/whiteboard for marking
Scoring was fair I think 👍
Not a fan of the blue paint. It's so vibrant.
Very harsh scoring there boys..chill out
Why not drop the scoring system altogether and just focus on showcasing all the great places there are to play darts (warts and all). Where I live there are not that many choices any more and as @BrianNichols180 points out, if you keep giving harsh scores, where's the incentive to let you visit?
Electronic score.
Stop panning the dialogue hard left and right. That's not how humans hear sound with 2 ears!
We aren't doing it on purpose I promise you, every day is a school day but we will keep improving, sorry
whiteboard or chalk. i do understand why people enjoy a tablet, alot of younger people are shy (being polite) about math.
White or black board always
Imagine Goldfinger on that Oche, where would he stand 😀
or Mervyn....you are exactly right 😀
Could you please come to Takeley Sports and Social Club
Broadmoor farm
Tablets make it easier to score but doesnt help a players counting/finishing. Stick to the pen
No walk on girls?
not yet
Harsh
Not looking very promising 😕
Bradmoor Farm Haddenham Near Aylesbury really good venue
This is just getting ridiculous. At times you can see Matt just thinking what the hell is this guy on about? Andy is the most unlikeable person I have ever seen on TH-cam and that's quite a statement. Been watching the whole series and first time commenting. I'm sick of it. Matthew is an absolute expert and should get someone else and this could be way better.
I am not sure you are 'getting' their roles.. Thanks for the feedback
@@missiondarts This is not a play. I don't want roles. I want to keep watching because half of it is absolutely great. I love the idea, a lot of respect towards Mission darts and all but this guy is just not interesting to watch (that's me being polite). I'd rather wallpaper the inside of my fridge than listen to Andy's voice. 👍🏻
white or chalk board
BOTH..needed
Whiteboard every time for me although my pub team still uses blackboards! Electronic scoring is to easy for me and as far as I'm concerned it's a lazy way of scoring games