Do you think that ESPN would have been privy to workplace emails back in 2011 when they were first sent? What kind of logic are you using for your assertion?
I played in the league for 5 min but I think you are kidding yourself if you think that most owners don’t think the same was as Gruden. You ever heard of Kapernick? Most of these owners see the players as their pieces of meat.
Bro smh i watch games i got a team but I can’t help but to think they all sit back in a room saying to each other “ i bet my ninjas better than yo ninjas” hard er used to.. Gurden aint the only one they all probably talk like that.. smh..
Gruden was allowed to resign? Wow. Wow! That speaks volumes. The Raiders should have fired him. We are told that the NFL know EVERYTHING about players. And they know NOTHING about coaches? The Raiders knew. The NFL knew. And he had a job but was allowevd to resign? Gruden is the tip of the spear. His emails were not sitting there in his drafts folder. NFL personell received, read and accepted as normal communications. I was done with the NFL and their adverstisements when Trump, as a sitting US Presidents called protesting players "Sons of Bitches". The entire NFL was silent. Silent when they made sure thier broadcast partners captured players waiving and yelling "Hi Mom" to the their cameras/ Black players acknowledging their Black mothers in a nation that imprisoned, lynched and financially immasculate Black men.
All great points. I’ve yet to hear a decent amount current players acknowledging their fathers contribution in the NFL. John can step down and get another job, while these brothas sit and work as lower coaches and coordinators forever! D. Smith, worked hard and is insulted by a basic coach, who couldn’t win a SB w/o joining a ready made team (Bucs v. Raiders super bowl).
Oh my God… we got more. One more thing… bottom line is there is always one more thing. But let’s not get it twisted… Gruden is 1 of many. Not one, not some… but many.
Jon Gruden is just the tip of the iceberg as far as all of those (like minded) owners, executives, coaches etc who contribute to this this type of culture in the NFL/WORLD!!!
Mane great point. He kept his job when talking about the black man.Only after talking about lgbtxyz community,women and other owners.FAKE OUTRAGE.I Still cant believe the black former and current players still stand with
Easy man, I really doubt Tony knew about the extent of this. I am surprised he would defend him though, considering Gruden profited from the team he built. He got lied to as well I think. But idk
Mike is right about the email, it wasn't going to help d smith keep his job. I believe they released the first email about D smith to see how blk players reacted. They used it to see who swallowed their pride ,keep their mouth close and who was outraged. They could've held that first email and released it with the rest. But it's looking like they wanted to say ..... racist statements we don't care about but gay or women hate ......now that's a problem.
The gay and women emails were sent after the racist email they most likely hadn’t found them straight away. I could be wrong but I doubt they know what all those emails contain as of now. Tbh there still may be more that he’s sent. So we just have to wait now
@@kimmmimemwest1895 exactly, and that's why the league knew they could get away with it. Considering how many times the majority-black players (past and present) have swallowed their pride in the face of bigotry in this league, no one should be surprised.
I like your indictment of the "Racist Rescue Squad." About time it was said out loud. Without justifiable outrage where is the impetus for change? It is right to express rage.
I'd been wondering since Gruden came in, did he cut Navarro Bowman, because he kneeled during the anthem while in SF. Bowman was by far, even after maybe losing a step or two the best Mike to don the SB in a long time.
trying to get into that "club"...unpack that a bit, because I think the fact that they were all so comfortable saying this stuff makes me wonder what they were also comfortable doing, and who else was directly involved
I am not surprised because nobody is who we believe them to be. If everyone wore the contents of their mind or emails on a shirt everybody would look terrible. What is off putting about John is that he appears to not care. I guess that is the attitude you have when you think you are untouchable.
When you’ve done or said things you regret it shows. I didn’t see it with him. As someone who’s said things I regret I didn’t believe what Gruden said honestly.
Every NFL Owner is in the process of Deleting massive amounts of Emails!!! If Colon Kap emails come forward.... DAMN.... Shit gonna hit the Fan!!!!!!!!!!
This is the franchise of the late great Al Davis, who was following The Rooney Rule three decades before it was a thing. My thing is Gruden was sending these emails to like-minded recipients, so there should be more fallout.
Their protected.. These two or more up arms about harmful speech when it playes that have harmed women and children. I'm not given Gruden a pass but I'm not going to act like the coaches and the owners are so evil and the players are angels.
You guys work in the Media you know how it works, weather they are black, white, purple, orange, woman, man, transgender. People with big enough name recognition bring viewership and dollars that's all big companies care about. It is all about the bottom line and the dollars period.
Gruden came in to fix the mess in the locker room back in '18. When wave 2 of this stuff came out, he knew his best shot at salvaging any chance for the Raiders to continue to get better and not implode was for him to step out. His intentions and love for the Raiders are clear to some who've been paying attention from day 1. Hopefully, Carr doesn't throw everything he's learned out the window. That was an expensive QB Coach.
How in the hell does a mediocre coach get a 10 year contract? Granted he probably wasn't going to be there for 10 years, but consider the offer. Simply shameful the shield is no longer valuable ...
History, prestige. Jon Gruden was a good coach. Had a relationship with the teams previous owner. Considering the owner now is the son of said previous owner. What kind of good coach trades away the best WR and their best defensive guy just to go get nothing in return for the stuff they traded. The team is decent now but doesn’t mean they were gonna be great under him. Tbh I’ve been skeptical since day 1.
@@goochfitness26 the 2021 raiders cowboys panthers have such a soft schedule it's like a powerful high school team verses junior high . They then promote a artificial construct breads and circuses pure entertainment.
Just based on the title: it’s their private entity they can pretty much do what they want aside from breaking a law. I’m sorry y’all see it differently but it doesn’t change the it.
@@EM-xb1uc He made a point about DaBaby killing someone and not having it affect his career but speaking against the alphabet people caused him to get canceled which is kinda what happened with Gruden.
@@trini_staple DaBaby killed someone in self defense and it was exonerated and happen before his career even popped off. Then black people made him hot and whites excepted him. So Dave was reaching and everyone fell for his false analogy.
Jon gruden is a representation of the average white man and people are shocked that this is how he thinks 🙄 Just imagine how really rich people feel! Only hurt dogs holla if this offends you!
Everyone in the media say how disgusting, ignorant, and terrible Gruden's comments are, yet they're all making money talking about those very same comments. While speaking on social issues is important, there's a monetary element when the media, like this show, reports on it.
@@leestreet1627 I've said a lot of things that were wrong in my life but never really anything racist or homophobic,etc to where people are questioning my character their is a price to be paid and nothing is fair that's how this world works my dude.
I hate that soft ass “oh well I’ve never seen him be racist so he couldn’t be a racist” line. You’ve never seen me take a dump in person either have you. BUT I DO IT IN PRIVATE
And Urban Myers is like, “Thank you Football GODS!” 🤣🤣🤣
No bullshit
Still not off the hook though
Exactly Urban got thrown to the b section
😂😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭
I know right. Nobody's thinking about Urban Meyer.
Y'all spot on today.✊🏿
best sports show Period !!! Thanks Fellaz
They need to put the show on in the morning thank you very much
ESPN needs to be investigated!!! They hired him and he was working for them in 2011, when these emails first began!
Do you think that ESPN would have been privy to workplace emails back in 2011 when they were first sent? What kind of logic are you using for your assertion?
If in there is, I ain't seent it.. Preach brother Smith!
"Iffin' there is, I aint seen't it!" LMAO....Big ups to Micheal Smith for bringing out that old school Damon Wayans Line LMMFAO
Sports talk with intellect and jokes?? Refreshing!! Thanks.
Preach Michael...been saying this for years. Always a black person on speed dial ready to defend a racist for something they said or did...smh
Good talk show/podcast and contint
I played in the league for 5 min but I think you are kidding yourself if you think that most owners don’t think the same was as Gruden. You ever heard of Kapernick? Most of these owners see the players as their pieces of meat.
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Bro smh i watch games i got a team but I can’t help but to think they all sit back in a room saying to each other
“ i bet my ninjas better than yo ninjas” hard er used to.. Gurden aint the only one they all probably talk like that.. smh..
Well, Kaepernick is a meat-head so . . .
Gruden was allowed to resign? Wow. Wow! That speaks volumes. The Raiders should have fired him. We are told that the NFL know EVERYTHING about players. And they know NOTHING about coaches? The Raiders knew. The NFL knew. And he had a job but was allowevd to resign? Gruden is the tip of the spear. His emails were not sitting there in his drafts folder. NFL personell received, read and accepted as normal communications. I was done with the NFL and their adverstisements when Trump, as a sitting US Presidents called protesting players "Sons of Bitches". The entire NFL was silent. Silent when they made sure thier broadcast partners captured players waiving and yelling "Hi Mom" to the their cameras/ Black players acknowledging their Black mothers in a nation that imprisoned, lynched and financially immasculate Black men.
All great points. I’ve yet to hear a decent amount current players acknowledging their fathers contribution in the NFL.
John can step down and get another job, while these brothas sit and work as lower coaches and coordinators forever!
D. Smith, worked hard and is insulted by a basic coach, who couldn’t win a SB
w/o joining a ready made team (Bucs v. Raiders super bowl).
The complexion for the protection.
- Paul Mooney
And yet he dogged his own skin color.
@@flyguy7825
How?.
@@EM-xb1uc How what?
The black players accepted it
@@flyguy7825
You responded by saying:
And yet he dogged his own skin color.
So my question to you is How? Please explain?..
Oh my God… we got more. One more thing… bottom line is there is always one more thing. But let’s not get it twisted… Gruden is 1 of many. Not one, not some… but many.
is hard to believe gruden was alone on that behavior.
I finally found respect for this dude.
Absolutely not the only NFL coach/ owner who thinks like that...This is just the tip of the iceberg!!
Jon Gruden was Employed by ESPN ALL THOSE YEAR'S! So What's Up with ESPN?
Great episode, great intro, awesome points gentlemen.
Jon Gruden is just the tip of the iceberg as far as all of those (like minded) owners, executives, coaches etc who contribute to this this type of culture in the NFL/WORLD!!!
Thank you
He Thought He Could Get Away With It•••Him And Others!
Nice job brothers👍🏾…keep spreading the knowledge❤️
Preach. Here for it.
Preach, preach, preach omg spot on
Preach that sermon 🙏🏾✊🏿🤴🏾
Brilliant .... just brilliant ... u 2 rock, smart, intelligent, articulate, well researched, tempered, measured, illuminating, lucid 👏 👌
The Guns & Butter shirt though
Mane great point. He kept his job when talking about the black man.Only after talking about lgbtxyz community,women and other owners.FAKE OUTRAGE.I Still cant believe the black former and current players still stand with
Fired on this day off
Don't hate the player...... hate the game 🏈🏈
I hope the Captain of the racist rescue squad Tony Dungy hears this
Easy man, I really doubt Tony knew about the extent of this. I am surprised he would defend him though, considering Gruden profited from the team he built. He got lied to as well I think. But idk
He’s a SALE OUT!
Mike is right about the email, it wasn't going to help d smith keep his job. I believe they released the first email about D smith to see how blk players reacted. They used it to see who swallowed their pride ,keep their mouth close and who was outraged. They could've held that first email and released it with the rest. But it's looking like they wanted to say ..... racist statements we don't care about but gay or women hate ......now that's a problem.
The gay and women emails were sent after the racist email they most likely hadn’t found them straight away. I could be wrong but I doubt they know what all those emails contain as of now. Tbh there still may be more that he’s sent. So we just have to wait now
Black players accepted it
@@kimmmimemwest1895 exactly, and that's why the league knew they could get away with it. Considering how many times the majority-black players (past and present) have swallowed their pride in the face of bigotry in this league, no one should be surprised.
It's a good Ole boys club and Gruden ain't a one off. As far as I am concerned it won't ever change.
Black folks on the standby on the ready....PREACH!!!!! Love the Damon Wayans reference!!!
Great show
This is the REALEST podcast I’ve seen in a long time.
PURE FACTS and not ONE lie was told
I like your indictment of the "Racist Rescue Squad." About time it was said out loud. Without justifiable outrage where is the impetus for change? It is right to express rage.
Talk about it! Times up!
This is a public forum hence one has to exercise extreme restraint so no words, except thank you Mike n Mike - speak truth; 4 speaking the Truth
Who cares what someone says in an email. It's what they do in public that counts (unless they are doing something criminal in private).
That's right Kap just took a knee for what o yeah🤷🏽♂️
It really makes you wonder did he have a hand in the demise of RG3.
I'd been wondering since Gruden came in, did he cut Navarro Bowman, because he kneeled during the anthem while in SF. Bowman was by far, even after maybe losing a step or two the best Mike to don the SB in a long time.
“Dei vigilante” 😂😂😂😂 MH I’m dying.
Sensitivity training. Next we will cancel your mind for thinking the thoughts.
trying to get into that "club"...unpack that a bit, because I think the fact that they were all so comfortable saying this stuff makes me wonder what they were also comfortable doing, and who else was directly involved
Thank you for addressing the racist rescue squad. They got on my nerves.
I am not surprised because nobody is who we believe them to be. If everyone wore the contents of their mind or emails on a shirt everybody would look terrible. What is off putting about John is that he appears to not care. I guess that is the attitude you have when you think you are untouchable.
When you’ve done or said things you regret it shows. I didn’t see it with him. As someone who’s said things I regret I didn’t believe what Gruden said honestly.
Every NFL Owner is in the process of Deleting massive amounts of Emails!!!
If Colon Kap emails come forward....
DAMN.... Shit gonna hit the Fan!!!!!!!!!!
This is the franchise of the late great Al Davis, who was following The Rooney Rule three decades before it was a thing. My thing is Gruden was sending these emails to like-minded recipients, so there should be more fallout.
Can have all the money an, everything they want in the world. &, Still have a deep seeded hatred in their hearts. That explains a lot.
Urban is like, "f@&king YEAH !!
Urban getting a lapdance right now
Great conversion and yes black people retire from the racist rescue squad thanks as always #BrotherFromAnother and yes they do travel in packs.
LaVar Arrington is boot lick of the decade. He went full Steven from Django today.
Tony Dungy is the leader, thru trout his old ass out there everytime and it’s sickening
these two are hysterical.
I never seen a person so serious as Michael Smith.
Nobody is saying exactly what was said or typed specifics please.
This is bigger then Jon Gruden. He was just the fall guy….
Much bigger and deeper bruh
Why did the story break on the day Al Davis died?
Well, no more Chucky impressions from Caliendo anymore.
Fuck😔😔
At 3:30 when that brother talks good about the nfl owners, that is very suspicious and shows me that he is on their payroll. He is a pawn.
FACTS!!!! Black people caping is a damn problem. It sets us back
If they have had only positive interactions with Gruden should they lie and said he called them the N word everyday?
Yeah, Urban Meyer is at Thanksgiving Service right now, he supposed to leave to go do X's & O's 4 his next game but he transfixed at THANKSGIVING
🤣🤣🤣 He got fired on his day off......CLASSIC!
How did this get on my feed? Wokism is big business.
And I am sick and tired of the letter squad they stay on folly
I am pretty sure a lot of black people say stuff like that too. Really man...beware of hyperbole....it weakins the point whics ud spot on.
We’re they talking about Marcellus Wiley?
The whole damn world is in trouble if e mails an texts are dug up period!! AB needs to be outta league Watson an on an on an on !!
Their protected.. These two or more up arms about harmful speech when it playes that have harmed women and children. I'm not given Gruden a pass but I'm not going to act like the coaches and the owners are so evil and the players are angels.
These people what ya mean these people
This was a MJ/Pippen performance on this topic
You guys work in the Media you know how it works, weather they are black, white, purple, orange, woman, man, transgender. People with big enough name recognition bring viewership and dollars that's all big companies care about. It is all about the bottom line and the dollars period.
Works differently for a certain race. But I understand what your saying. I wish you were right. Peace
It’s all about money but that’s wrong. It needs to change.
@@noni5961 I agree with you 1000% but I didn't invent capitalism.
Urban Meyer = 🍿
Michael Smith, you dropped some Pearl's my dude.
Gruden came in to fix the mess in the locker room back in '18. When wave 2 of this stuff came out, he knew his best shot at salvaging any chance for the Raiders to continue to get better and not implode was for him to step out. His intentions and love for the Raiders are clear to some who've been paying attention from day 1. Hopefully, Carr doesn't throw everything he's learned out the window. That was an expensive QB Coach.
Damn. He isn’t looking good these days.
Dave chappelle was right
Check Mate!!!
Now Micheal Smith is offended by the word dumb.. when does it stop with these two wokies..
How in the hell does a mediocre coach get a 10 year contract? Granted he probably wasn't going to be there for 10 years, but consider the offer. Simply shameful the shield is no longer valuable ...
History, prestige. Jon Gruden was a good coach. Had a relationship with the teams previous owner. Considering the owner now is the son of said previous owner. What kind of good coach trades away the best WR and their best defensive guy just to go get nothing in return for the stuff they traded. The team is decent now but doesn’t mean they were gonna be great under him. Tbh I’ve been skeptical since day 1.
@@goochfitness26 the 2021 raiders cowboys panthers have such a soft schedule it's like a powerful high school team verses junior high . They then promote a artificial construct breads and circuses pure entertainment.
Just based on the title: it’s their private entity they can pretty much do what they want aside from breaking a law. I’m sorry y’all see it differently but it doesn’t change the it.
Who can tell me who is good human and who isnt? how can you decide that ?
It's easy for this 2 especially Mike Smith.
White: Bad
Black: Good
Jon Gruden proved that Dave Chappelle was right.
How's that?. Please explain..
Be more specific. What was it that Dave Chappell said?. 🤔
@@EM-xb1uc He made a point about DaBaby killing someone and not having it affect his career but speaking against the alphabet people caused him to get canceled which is kinda what happened with Gruden.
Jon Gruden ... habitual line stepper
@@joshdavis831 You offend the alphabet people then you go.
@@trini_staple DaBaby killed someone in self defense and it was exonerated and happen before his career even popped off. Then black people made him hot and whites excepted him. So Dave was reaching and everyone fell for his false analogy.
Jon gruden is a representation of the average white man and people are shocked that this is how he thinks 🙄 Just imagine how really rich people feel! Only hurt dogs holla if this offends you!
BFA playing catch up. By the time more news surfaces, they're a day behind.
The Whole 🌎 is 🗑
Lolll you can't have an opinion of Obama as a president and now Biden...I bet these 2 neverrrrrrr said anything bad about Trump! 😂😂
Everyone in the media say how disgusting, ignorant, and terrible Gruden's comments are, yet they're all making money talking about those very same comments. While speaking on social issues is important, there's a monetary element when the media, like this show, reports on it.
JG is a grain. The whole bag of rice is the bigger problem.
The Racist Rescue Squad 😂😂😂
As long he don't say players don't get opportunities after some stuff they've done..
The strategy is to offer the tip of the iceberg and bandage the rest!
But they want to cancel the GOAT Dave Chappelle????? Don't make me laugh
If they say stuff that's out of line cancel all of them.
@@flyguy7825 you're delusional my guy. This world has no Supreme Diety. We're in the land of free and home of the brave, right????
@@flyguy7825 when you said that back in 1998?? Shouldn't you be canceled??? You're always being watched. We all are
@@leestreet1627 I've said a lot of things that were wrong in my life but never really anything racist or homophobic,etc to where people are questioning my character their is a price to be paid and nothing is fair that's how this world works my dude.
Dave Chappelle the goat of what? DC is TRASH straight up! RICHARD PRYOR WAS and ALWAYS will be the GOAT, point blank period!
Gruden was and remains a knucklehead above all else. Good lord.
Michael Vick still on all your shows and is a convicted dog killer this guy said things in private emails how about you guys do a story
Stephen A in that racist rescue squad 🤣😂😂
Whitlock and his sock-puppet (who embraces the Uncle connotation) and Sage Steele are the go-to racial EMTs regarding issues that overlap sports.
@@gbFAMU Used hate Whitlock but he speaks truths .It's just uncomfortable and us a black people like feel good truth like these two will tell us.
@@soda8736 he's neither speaking to nor for black people.
Shame on Jon Gruden!...He should know if you're gonna attack co-workers in the nfl you don't use email...You use a helmet...DUH!
I hate that soft ass “oh well I’ve never seen him be racist so he couldn’t be a racist” line. You’ve never seen me take a dump in person either have you. BUT I DO IT IN PRIVATE
Hey Disney/espn you dodged a bullet... imagine if chucky was a contestant on dancing with the stars ... imagine what he would of called the judges!
Yall so sensitive about everything
Keyshawn told folks about filthy chucky but they ain’t wanna listen!
He didn't have to tell me about Jon Gruden the guy was always a shewd operator to people that just never spoke on it.
Keyshawn was butt hurt because he got deactivated after winning a super bowl. And no players came to Keshawn defense.