People are going to bring the issue of Imam Abu Hanifa. Imam Abu Hanifa had some elements of irja, however the asharis are full fledged murjia! Even Imam Abu Hanifa didn’t agree with the asharis in the issue of iman. By the way Imam Abu Hanifa doesn’t break the ijma since he was from the murjiatul fuqaha according to the salaf. To say that Imam Abu Hanifa breaks the ijma in the issue of iman is like saying that Jahm Ibn Safwan breaks the ijma in the issue of Allah’s attributes. The statements of those with irja are not considered when discussing the issue of iman.
@@MohammedAlSharif2002 If I’m not mistaken, he believed that actions are not part of iman, rather he believed that beliefs and words are part of iman. However the asharis believe that actions and words are not part of iman, rather it’s just to believe in Allah in your heart.
@@user-br1qk6mt6k ▪️ *5. Al-Murji’ah* - *They believe that actions are deferred from Eemaan (Al-Irjaa). Thus actions, according to them, are not part of it. Eemaan is simply the complying of the heart.* Thus the sinner, according to them, is a believer with complete Eemaan, even if he does what he does from the disobedient acts or he abandons what he abandons from the obedient acts. And if we ruled that someone that abandoned one of the commandments of the Religion is a disbeliever, then that would be due to the absence of the complying in his heart not due to his abandonment of that deed. These are the views of the Jahmiyyah. And it, along in comparison with the views of the Khawaarij, are the two opposite extremities. AUTHOR: Imaam Muhammad bin Saalih Al-‘Uthaimeen SOURCE: His explanation of Lum’at-ul-‘Itiqaad of Ibn Qudaamah (pg. 161-163) PRODUCED BY: Al-Ibaanah.com
Quran 8 : 2 The believers are only those who, when Allah is mentioned, feel a fear in their hearts and when His Verses (Quran) are recited unto them, they increase their Faith; and they put their trust in their Lord; 3. The ones who establish prayer, and from what We have provided them, they spend. Imam Bhukari agrees with ahlul Sunnah on Iman some Asharis say Abu Talib is is Muslim due to AShari's errors.
Wait, I don’t get this, anyone who feels fear when the Quran is recited etc. is a true believer (not questioning that) but, when did they explicitly deny actions? Faith is action, there’s no denying that, but don’t all these actions require Niyyah (intention?) Furthermore, how does this make them Extremist Murji’a? How does one even become an “Extremist Murji’a?”
@@Mustafa_Shahzadactions no matter at all, who said that? Niyyah with failed good action, got deed. Niyyah with success action, got reater deeds. Without niyyah with action(if there's riya',ujub and sum'ah), no deed.
@@farzana6676 Many scholars of the salaf said that Imam Abu Hanifa fell into irja since he didn’t believe that actions were a part of iman. This is gonna really embarrass you, but top ashari scholars harshly critiqued Imam Abu Hanifa, let's see what you have to say about this. Al Juwayni said: *"And as for Abu Hanifa, he was not from the Mujtahideen to begin with, because he didn't know Arabic, and he didn't know Ahadith to the point he accepted all weak narrations and opposed all authentic narrations, and he didn't know usool therefore he placed Qiyas above Ahadith and due to his lack of Fiqh his madhab was all over the place with contradictions and incoherence."* (Al Burhan Page 1335) Let's see you call Al Juwayni a "wahabi" now.
People are going to bring the issue of Imam Abu Hanifa. Imam Abu Hanifa had some elements of irja, however the asharis are full fledged murjia! Even Imam Abu Hanifa didn’t agree with the asharis in the issue of iman. By the way Imam Abu Hanifa doesn’t break the ijma since he was from the murjiatul fuqaha according to the salaf. To say that Imam Abu Hanifa breaks the ijma in the issue of iman is like saying that Jahm Ibn Safwan breaks the ijma in the issue of Allah’s attributes. The statements of those with irja are not considered when discussing the issue of iman.
What were the elements of Irja that were held by Abu Hanifah
What’s Irja ? Murjia beliefs?
@@MohammedAlSharif2002 If I’m not mistaken, he believed that actions are not part of iman, rather he believed that beliefs and words are part of iman. However the asharis believe that actions and words are not part of iman, rather it’s just to believe in Allah in your heart.
He was murjiah fuqaha this group or kurjiah are from sunnah though they have a bidah
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▪️ *5. Al-Murji’ah* - *They believe that actions are deferred from Eemaan (Al-Irjaa). Thus actions, according to them, are not part of it. Eemaan is simply the complying of the heart.* Thus the sinner, according to them, is a believer with complete Eemaan, even if he does what he does from the disobedient acts or he abandons what he abandons from the obedient acts. And if we ruled that someone that abandoned one of the commandments of the Religion is a disbeliever, then that would be due to the absence of the complying in his heart not due to his abandonment of that deed. These are the views of the Jahmiyyah. And it, along in comparison with the views of the Khawaarij, are the two opposite extremities.
AUTHOR: Imaam Muhammad bin Saalih Al-‘Uthaimeen
SOURCE: His explanation of Lum’at-ul-‘Itiqaad of Ibn Qudaamah (pg. 161-163)
PRODUCED BY: Al-Ibaanah.com
Subhan Allah hajji wanted to debate every1 but backed down against ARH
بارك الله فيك ❣️🍃
Quran 8 : 2 The believers are only those who, when Allah is mentioned, feel a fear in their hearts and when His Verses (Quran) are recited unto them, they increase their Faith; and they put their trust in their Lord;
3. The ones who establish prayer, and from what We have provided them, they spend.
Imam Bhukari agrees with ahlul Sunnah on Iman
some Asharis say Abu Talib is is Muslim due to AShari's errors.
Wait, I don’t get this, anyone who feels fear when the Quran is recited etc. is a true believer (not questioning that) but, when did they explicitly deny actions? Faith is action, there’s no denying that, but don’t all these actions require Niyyah (intention?) Furthermore, how does this make them Extremist Murji’a? How does one even become an “Extremist Murji’a?”
Yes, they are based on niyyah, but the extremist murji'ah would say that the actions dont matter at all.
Actions are important atleast Salaah. After shahadah of course.
@@Mustafa_Shahzadactions no matter at all, who said that? Niyyah with failed good action, got deed. Niyyah with success action, got reater deeds. Without niyyah with action(if there's riya',ujub and sum'ah), no deed.
"Indeed actions are with their intentions [...]" [Bukhari 1]
Juwaini irshad in usul itiqad, what is pleasing to us iman is one who believes in heart.
Bhukari
SubhanAllah, you guys are attacking Imam A'dham Abi Hanifah now 🤣
Imam Abu Hanifa didn’t agree with the ashari position on iman, stop pulling out the victim card.
@@ibmsulaymani Accusing Imam Abu Hanifah of Irja?
Even the greatest Imam, the Tabi'ee is not safe from the tongues of the Mujassamah and Wahhabiyya?
@@farzana6676 Many scholars of the salaf said that Imam Abu Hanifa fell into irja since he didn’t believe that actions were a part of iman.
This is gonna really embarrass you, but top ashari scholars harshly critiqued Imam Abu Hanifa, let's see what you have to say about this.
Al Juwayni said:
*"And as for Abu Hanifa, he was not from the Mujtahideen to begin with, because he didn't know Arabic, and he didn't know Ahadith to the point he accepted all weak narrations and opposed all authentic narrations, and he didn't know usool therefore he placed Qiyas above Ahadith and due to his lack of Fiqh his madhab was all over the place with contradictions and incoherence."* (Al Burhan Page 1335)
Let's see you call Al Juwayni a "wahabi" now.
And then there was silence…
@@ibmsulaymani lol