I have used my ipad mini 5 with cellular as my main device since I bought it at launched and replaced my macbook pro with it. Used it for work, managing database and links of reports thru web app, graphic design thru affinity, video editing thru imovie, opening/ creating /editing documents thru apple office suite, playing online games and many more. It so convenient, have mobile internet if needed, fit in my sling bag and if you know what to do with it, it can practically fit in your life style and do away with it.
@ just give me an iPad button to emulate Mac for some light work while mobile. Then I can use touch and pencil and all in a super portable design. Darn.
The M4 iPad Pro is the first iPad I’ve ever returned. I get paid to game on iPads so not having the latest is wild to me lol. I ended up keeping my M2 iPad Pro. The $1000 price tag is insane. Even when though my iPads pay for themselves. I figured I could take that and use it for other things. Atleast keep the price at $800.
I replaced my M1 iPad Pro 11” with the new M4 11”. The iPad Pro has been my favorite go to device for everyday things. I do have an M2 MBA for work at the office, but at home, on a plane when I am traveling, my iPad goes with me!
I have an iPad Pro M2 with MagicKeyboard (with missing functions key) and Apple pencil, now its collecting dust on my desk. I hardly find any use case since I cannot do real software development work on the iPad, I only use that iPad for testing and sometime sketch prototype. I feel the iPad Pro with M series chip are really crippled by the limitation of the iPadOS, and Apple has been sort of giving some wrong signal to iPad user thinking it could replace their computer with the iPad, and that totally not working for me.
You missed the fundamental points: 1/The tablet market is saturated, so demand will fall; that is demand-side economics. 2/ Apple makes iPads so good that people hold onto them for longer, so it is easy to understand the math that demand will fall if people now upgrade every 6 years compared to 4 years a few years ago. Obviously, influencers want to flex the end of Apple as they have for a decade and have been proved wrong yearly.
the M1 has all the power we'll ever need, M1 might be even too over powered for the iPad, what they need to do is, make the OS more flexible. If you got the M1 iPad Pro, the only real reason to upgrade is to get a new battery.
Back when I was carrying a 3.5 pound MacBook Pro, I'd take my iPad and keyboard on shorter trips to save weight. Now, my MacBook Air is so light, that an iPad and Keyboard case weighs almost the same. It is easier and simpler just to use the MacBook Air. It's more versatile and easier to use in my use case. Now I just have an iPad mini and I don't use it for work.
As for LG switching, I suspect that is because of much less conspiratorial reasons: 1/ LG was the only manufacturer of 13-inch OLED panels for the iPad, and Samsung was meant to make the 11-inch. However, due to Samsung's poor yield (QC), LG had to help by taking 50% of the 11-inch orders. The initial rush is over, and LG can close those lines. 2/ Apple has been trying to rely less on Samsung for years because Samsung is a leading competitor, and feeding that is poor business. LG has never had the capacity, but by reducing the iPad panel load, Apple can use that to order more iPhone displays from LG.
The chips are overpowered for what the iPad can do. If they really want to sell iPads they need to do something with the OS, something else not as limited. Of course that will eat into their laptop sales and they don't want that.
The main problem for iPad is its price. iPad is in desktop/Laptop level but at the end of the day it’s still a tablet. Yes you can daily drive a tablet and make it your number 1 but tablet excels as a companion or side kick. Robin(iPad) will always be Batman’s(Mac) sidekick. Yes there are moments will grow up and be a Nightwing or Redhood (iPad Pro) but he still no Batman.
As for speeding up OLED adoption, Apple has concluded that OLED from miniLED is not a massive upgrade, more sideways, and that may, conversely, make Apple take even longer to upgrade the MB Pros to OLED as it seems not to start a super-cycle.
I'm a graphic / web designer and the iPad is so limited compared to a mac... I can do more things with a Mac from 10 years ago than with an iPad from 2024.
people have to stop taking the “pro” name so serious, just like the macbooks they can all pretty much handle everything base/pro/max just obviously the higher version will just do it quicker unless you’re in a very tiny bracket of people that need that crazy power. With that said the ipad pro is just basically saying it has a better screen that the other ipads and if you game it can play better but not that big of a difference. i haven’t needed my macbook cause my m1 ipad can handle anything i need quick and i would get the m4 ipad but forcing us to have to buy a new pencil and keyboard was a dumb move on their part so they lost that sale from me. apple just has to stop advertising the ipad pro to be a computer replacement for professional work or replace the pro name with something else.
iPad is my favorite device of all time, it’s my main device but I find myself in a strange spot right now. Love the great display on the m4 iPad. Problem is I just can’t justify the cost anymore. $1000+ for a device restricted by software is too much. I just made the decision last night I’m selling my m4 and going back to the Mini. If I need to do some light “Pro” stuff, mirroring to an external monitor with a keyboard and mouse is good enough. Love the iPad but I’m afraid it’s just best utilized by a small minority of “Pro” user while the rest of the iPads are good enough for the 99%.
I have used my ipad mini 5 with cellular as my main device since I bought it at launched and replaced my macbook pro with it. Used it for work, managing database and links of reports thru web app, graphic design thru affinity, video editing thru imovie, opening/ creating /editing documents thru apple office suite, playing online games and many more. It so convenient, have mobile internet if needed, fit in my sling bag and if you know what to do with it, it can practically fit in your life style and do away with it.
Compared to a laptop or desktop there are just too many things I can’t do on the iPad. Bummer because iPad is a great form factor for computing.
Zero chance an iPad with a keyboard is more useful than a MacBook, I agree
@ just give me an iPad button to emulate Mac for some light work while mobile. Then I can use touch and pencil and all in a super portable design. Darn.
The M4 iPad Pro is the first iPad I’ve ever returned. I get paid to game on iPads so not having the latest is wild to me lol. I ended up keeping my M2 iPad Pro.
The $1000 price tag is insane. Even when though my iPads pay for themselves. I figured I could take that and use it for other things. Atleast keep the price at $800.
I replaced my M1 iPad Pro 11” with the new M4 11”. The iPad Pro has been my favorite go to device for everyday things. I do have an M2 MBA for work at the office, but at home, on a plane when I am traveling, my iPad goes with me!
I have an iPad Pro M2 with MagicKeyboard (with missing functions key) and Apple pencil, now its collecting dust on my desk. I hardly find any use case since I cannot do real software development work on the iPad, I only use that iPad for testing and sometime sketch prototype. I feel the iPad Pro with M series chip are really crippled by the limitation of the iPadOS, and Apple has been sort of giving some wrong signal to iPad user thinking it could replace their computer with the iPad, and that totally not working for me.
You missed the fundamental points:
1/The tablet market is saturated, so demand will fall; that is demand-side economics.
2/ Apple makes iPads so good that people hold onto them for longer, so it is easy to understand the math that demand will fall if people now upgrade every 6 years compared to 4 years a few years ago.
Obviously, influencers want to flex the end of Apple as they have for a decade and have been proved wrong yearly.
the M1 has all the power we'll ever need, M1 might be even too over powered for the iPad, what they need to do is, make the OS more flexible.
If you got the M1 iPad Pro, the only real reason to upgrade is to get a new battery.
I picked up the M1 iPad Air on sale when the M2 was released and I agree, it has more than enough power for my needs.
Back when I was carrying a 3.5 pound MacBook Pro, I'd take my iPad and keyboard on shorter trips to save weight. Now, my MacBook Air is so light, that an iPad and Keyboard case weighs almost the same. It is easier and simpler just to use the MacBook Air. It's more versatile and easier to use in my use case. Now I just have an iPad mini and I don't use it for work.
The best upgrade for an iPad Pro is to make iPadOS equivalent to Mac OS and get/port the best apps from Mac OS to iPadOS with full functionality
As for LG switching, I suspect that is because of much less conspiratorial reasons:
1/ LG was the only manufacturer of 13-inch OLED panels for the iPad, and Samsung was meant to make the 11-inch. However, due to Samsung's poor yield (QC), LG had to help by taking 50% of the 11-inch orders. The initial rush is over, and LG can close those lines.
2/ Apple has been trying to rely less on Samsung for years because Samsung is a leading competitor, and feeding that is poor business. LG has never had the capacity, but by reducing the iPad panel load, Apple can use that to order more iPhone displays from LG.
The chips are overpowered for what the iPad can do. If they really want to sell iPads they need to do something with the OS, something else not as limited. Of course that will eat into their laptop sales and they don't want that.
The main problem for iPad is its price. iPad is in desktop/Laptop level but at the end of the day it’s still a tablet. Yes you can daily drive a tablet and make it your number 1 but tablet excels as a companion or side kick. Robin(iPad) will always be Batman’s(Mac) sidekick. Yes there are moments will grow up and be a Nightwing or Redhood (iPad Pro) but he still no Batman.
As for speeding up OLED adoption, Apple has concluded that OLED from miniLED is not a massive upgrade, more sideways, and that may, conversely, make Apple take even longer to upgrade the MB Pros to OLED as it seems not to start a super-cycle.
My iPad Pro is my most used device ever. Keyboard and pencil are great additions.
I'm a graphic / web designer and the iPad is so limited compared to a mac... I can do more things with a Mac from 10 years ago than with an iPad from 2024.
I'll never own another iPad Pro. It was a huge mistake, over priced for what it can't do. I bought a iPad mini 7. Happy.
@@Richard.Cabeza agree, exactly the problem. Even worse when you pay “rent” on all of the iPad apps you need just to be able to get some work done.
people have to stop taking the “pro” name so serious, just like the macbooks they can all pretty much handle everything base/pro/max just obviously the higher version will just do it quicker unless you’re in a very tiny bracket of people that need that crazy power. With that said the ipad pro is just basically saying it has a better screen that the other ipads and if you game it can play better but not that big of a difference. i haven’t needed my macbook cause my m1 ipad can handle anything i need quick and i would get the m4 ipad but forcing us to have to buy a new pencil and keyboard was a dumb move on their part so they lost that sale from me. apple just has to stop advertising the ipad pro to be a computer replacement for professional work or replace the pro name with something else.
iPad is my favorite device of all time, it’s my main device but I find myself in a strange spot right now. Love the great display on the m4 iPad. Problem is I just can’t justify the cost anymore. $1000+ for a device restricted by software is too much. I just made the decision last night I’m selling my m4 and going back to the Mini. If I need to do some light “Pro” stuff, mirroring to an external monitor with a keyboard and mouse is good enough. Love the iPad but I’m afraid it’s just best utilized by a small minority of “Pro” user while the rest of the iPads are good enough for the 99%.
Or. Apple should make more OLED devices other than just iPad Pro and iPhones. We every Apple devices to have OLED already.
The problem with ipad is the ipados... And the pro is to expensive