The Great Basses of Classical Music - Vladimir Pasyukov

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  • @manwithmonstervoice1100
    @manwithmonstervoice1100 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Basso profoundos like him makes me a bass sound like a tenor 😂😂😂

    • @bradycall1889
      @bradycall1889  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yes indeed Pasyukov and Zlatopolsky probably have the lowest voices I've ever heard in my life.

    • @manwithmonstervoice1100
      @manwithmonstervoice1100 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@bradycall1889 yes and the other guy Brian weeks damn his speaking voice ☠️he talks one octave lower than me with same resonance and heavy vocal weight as mine which is insane 😨

    • @bradycall1889
      @bradycall1889  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@manwithmonstervoice1100 Brian Weeks has one of the deepest and also heaviest voices I've ever heard. He has an EXTREMELY heavy vocal weight, making him sound very animalistic and hefty.

    • @ariasemusicaslegendadas7657
      @ariasemusicaslegendadas7657 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I sounded like a countertenor next to him since I'm a young bass

  • @肛折螟
    @肛折螟 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    He passed away in 2011. There are too many years after his death. It is unfortunate that I do not have chance to see his own account on TH-cam and his videos of daily life. Rest forever, master pasyukov.

    • @bradycall1889
      @bradycall1889  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I agree it is unfortunate that he died when he wasn't even that old in fact.

  • @度桦一
    @度桦一 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Due to the limitations on body structure, the lowest passaggio of the female. I think it would be A3.

    • @bradycall1889
      @bradycall1889  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I doubt any female voice has a passaggio that low.

  • @度桦一
    @度桦一 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    JD claimed that the vocal cord will turn to be mature until around 35

    • @bradycall1889
      @bradycall1889  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Most men's vocal cords mature before that.

    • @bradycall1889
      @bradycall1889  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Only extremely low basses mature at 35 in my own point of view.

  • @肛折螟
    @肛折螟 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I am not sure whether the Brazilian musician Paulo is a bass. His voice seems do not have full resonance as sumner, london, mikhail, miller, pasyukov…

    • @bradycall1889
      @bradycall1889  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Paulo is definitely a bass. You don't have the be a basso profondo to be a bass my friend.

  • @肛折螟
    @肛折螟 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    His passaggio is higher than parris(parris is probably C3 or C#3)Pasyukov is likely to be F#3or F3, but the scale of Pasyukov is much larger than parris and make parris sounds like a bass-tenor

    • @bradycall1889
      @bradycall1889  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I've heard some pretty low pitched voices but I've never heard a passaggio at C3 or C#3. That sounds like a deep voice indeed.

    • @manwithmonstervoice1100
      @manwithmonstervoice1100 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What do you guys meant by passagio ???

    • @肛折螟
      @肛折螟 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@manwithmonstervoice1100 is the lowest key in your high-note range.

    • @肛折螟
      @肛折螟 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bradycall1889C3 is in some bass’s middle vocal range. But some profundos. Such as glib chandrowsky and london can singing C3 or C#3 like a high note

    • @bradycall1889
      @bradycall1889  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@manwithmonstervoice1100 As
      @user-tc4og3fe7g says, the passaggio is where your high notes start. For most baritones the first passaggio, where the voice starts to sound somewhat shouty, is around A3, Bb3, B3, or C4 depending on if it's a high baritone or a low one. A baritone's secondo passaggio, where the voice has no choice but to belt or change the vowels to stay in chest voice, ranges somewhere between D4-F4 and will also depend on which kind of baritone. The bass voice will have a primo passaggio between F3-A3 and a secondo passaggio between Bb3-D4 (also depends on which kind of bass it is). Here is a quick chart (some of these guys are debatable if they belong to these categories so please keep that in mind) [the primo passaggio is shown first and then the secondo passaggio after the slash symbol]:
      Super Low Bass/Oktavist (Glenn Miller and Mikhail Zlatopolsky): F#3/B3 or sometimes even F3/Bb3
      Low Bass/Basso Profondo (Kurt Moll): G3/C4
      High Bass/Basso Cantante (Siepi, Ramey, and Ghiaurov): G#3/C#4
      Super High Bass/Bass-Baritone/Low Baritone (George London and Hans Hotter): A3/D4
      Mid-Ranged Baritone (Titta Ruffo and Ettore Bastianini): Bb3/Eb3
      High Baritone (Robert Merrill and Pavel Lisitsian): B3/E4
      Super High Baritone/Baritenor/Super Low Tenor (Igor Gorin and Ramón Vinay both are high baritones): C4/F4
      Medium and Low Tenors (Franco Corelli, Lauritz Melchior, and Mario Del Monaco): C#4/F#4
      Medium and High Tenors (Luciano Pavarotti and Beniamino Gigli): D4/G4
      High Tenor (Juan Diego Florez and Tito Schipa): Eb4/Ab4
      Tenore Contraltino/Tenor Altino/Countertenor (Not sure who falls into this category in opera or classical music): E4/A4

  • @度桦一
    @度桦一 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Chandrowsky has the deepest and darkest tone among those oktavists, but I think his voice is stuffed like a carrot, which is obstructed.

    • @bradycall1889
      @bradycall1889  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I don't think I'm familiar with him tbh.

  • @度桦一
    @度桦一 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Pasyukov is the best bass in human history 1. His bass is continuous and smooth, as smooth as velvet. 2. He is a devout believer and regards every singing as the best gift to the Lord he believes in. 3. His skills are excellent Just look at Glenn Miller and Vladimir Miller: For Vladimir Miller: His voice is very ugly, like a chainsaw pulling back and forth, sizzling . For Glenn Miller: Every time he sings, he always presses his throat and vocal cords desperately, with exaggerated expressions on his face, crying like a mental patient.

    • @bradycall1889
      @bradycall1889  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Vladimir Miller is a nice guy and I like him as a person, and he used to sing much better when he was younger. But I agree that in the last few years he has sang with too wide and of a vibrato. I asked him one time out of curiosity what he thinks he could improve on with his own voice, and he told me that he admits his vibrato isn't very good.
      And Glenn Miller does, to an extent, make weird sounds with his throat. I think he does good with his low notes, but his middle and high notes need more practicing. Like in Vladimir Miller's case, Glenn Miller is a nice guy. He's definitely not a bad dude and I have nothing personal against him. But both these men of course need to work on some things.

    • @度桦一
      @度桦一 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bradycall1889 In June 20th 2011, I lost the most significant idol in my life. A star fell from the sky, and went to heaven…

    • @bradycall1889
      @bradycall1889  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@度桦一 Yeah that's sad. Pasyukov was literally a miracle.

    • @bradycall1889
      @bradycall1889  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@度桦一 Same with Zlatopolsky, he was a miracle as well. He died almost a decade before Pasyukov. At least we have Glenn Miller but he still has his technical flaws. We also have Ioannis Tsoumaris, but he isn't 100% done with his vocal training yet.

    • @度桦一
      @度桦一 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bradycall1889 Sure.Zlatopolsky passed away in 2001.

  • @肛折螟
    @肛折螟 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    London Parris’ s speaking voice is not like a true-bass, or even a baritone. A tenor’s speaking voice is more like him

    • @bradycall1889
      @bradycall1889  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Hm what a suprise for such a low-pitched singing voice. There is this one bass out there in operatic recorded history, Giulio Neri, who spoke higher than most baritones and even a few tenors.

    • @manwithmonstervoice1100
      @manwithmonstervoice1100 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@bradycall1889some of the bass guys can speak Higher as tenors !!! Even I can, by opening the mouth more wider and pushing the tongue forward towards the teeth as much as possible!!! I use this technique to sound like a women as well as babies !!!

    • @bradycall1889
      @bradycall1889  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@manwithmonstervoice1100 I have made a video debunking the idea that speaking voice always equals singing voice in case you'd like to check it out.

  • @肛折螟
    @肛折螟 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Passaggio is not equal to resonance as well as“音色”in my mother tongue, and I don’t know what“音色” is in English. As far as I know there is a Chinese music forum. In there,there are many guys that are defined as “bass”or“bass profundo”. In general,those guys are not the true bass as their resonance is not full and the music passaggio is not fitting the bass standard.
    Music passaggio is not equal to biological passaggio. If you call london parris to sing some English operas or operas from other countries. He is better for singing baritone. But there are also many gospel singers who suit the oktavist bass level as well as operatic level. Thurl as well as John hall are two of them as I know.

    • @bradycall1889
      @bradycall1889  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Really? I always thought London Parris as a natural bass lol.

    • @肛折螟
      @肛折螟 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bradycall1889 Yes, he is actually a basso profundo for gospel songs.

    • @肛折螟
      @肛折螟 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bradycall1889 He's voice is smooth and warm, and his chest note can go down to Eb1.