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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.พ. 2022
- Smash Bros. has come a long way. What started as a small, experimental crossover fighter has, nearly 25 years later, become a gaming phenomenon played and discussed around the world. But not every part of Smash has aged so gracefully--some aspects from the earliest entries have become dated, unwieldy, or no longer feel as representative of their source material as they once did. And while the series proper hasn't brought them up to date yet, it falls to the fans to try and...remake it.
Our subject this time is a certain bounty hunter who has ran, jumped, and blasted her way back into the limelight. The recent success of Metroid Dread has given Samus and her series new life once more. But her moveset in Smash Bros. has stayed nearly unchanged since Melee, and she's picked up so many new abilities in the time since that her Smash depiction doesn't feel much like herself anymore. But what if the next game were to give her some much-needed updates to feel in line with her current renditions? Let's see how that might look--and play.
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Honestly, this seems like a perfect rework for Samus. She’s been modernized well, while keeping part of her old Smash identity. THIS is how you retool an old fighter. Definitely wouldn’t complain about more of these types of videos.
Wish Mega Man X Was In Smash!With All His Armors As Alternate Colors!B=Ultimate Buster Charge Shot Barrage(Xtreme 2)!Side+B=Shotgun Ice!Up+B=Electric Spark!Down+B=Fire Wave!Final Smash=Giga Crush!
Modifying one character means Modifying them all, just leave them be
@@blakefenslerjr4858 How... How do those two things equate?
@@sheridan5175 You rework one character fans will want another one reworked just like Kirby with his abilities next game. It's an unending circle get it now?
@@blakefenslerjr4858 No. If you rework one character, people will start asking for other characters to be reworked, but only the ones that actually need to be. Also, not sure if it's intentional or if it's because you haven't gotten tone down with English yet but you sound super hostile bro
One thing I'd really like to see from an updated Samus, use the Flash Shift for her roll animations (maybe even use Phantom Cloak for her spotdodge?)
I'd keep the morph ball since it represents her character better.
@@splashor6361 I mean the morph ball has already a whole move dedicated to it so why not reference something else?
@@RinZDR The flash shift wouldn't be as good of a roll anyway since it could only move you so far unlike in the game where it moves you quite a far distance.
@@splashor6361 I mean yeah true but even then the flash shift works way better as a “dodge” option, Im sure almost no one uses morph ball to dodge in metroid
@@RinZDR It works better as a dodge option but not as good of a roll imo.
Now THIS is something I can get behind! Rather than make movesets for newer characters, veteran characters can get a much needed touch up in between games. Of all the characters, Samus needed it the most. I would love it if you continued to make more videos like this.
I'm surprised you didn't touch on her Aeion abilities such as Beam Burst or Flash Shift.
I didn't want to lean into Aeion abilities in this moveset. Felt like one thing too many.
Plus, it leaves them free to use for future concepts...if such a thing were to happen...
Actually, the Dread Aeion abilities might be more apt here. The Phantom Cloak can be her Spot Dodge, her roll could be her Flash Shift. Hell, regarding her Jump, she could have more midair jumps like Kirby or other flying characters like Pit or Charizard. This would allow the Space Jump to be utilized.
This is an idea I saw mentioned elsewhere, but if Raven Beak were to make it in Smash, he'd be a good candidate for focusing on Aeion abilities.
@@ElTaitronAnim I could definitely see Raven Beak being a good test bed for Aeion Abilities in Smash
@@Delzethin I feel like 3rd party characters have to be faithful to their games. With Nintendo characters, Sakurai is allowed to take some liberties.
An idea I had for Samus’ Final Smash is keeping it functionally like how it is currently with her Zero Laser, but with a catch.
[Spoiler for those who haven’t played Dread]
• Samus transforms her suit into the Metroid Suit and unleashes the Hyper Beam, now having a more pinkish-red color to it as opposed to blue.
An extension of the idea: She grapples onto a target in range and drain them to transform before unleashing the beam.
That's definitely what I thought the final smash should have been, I was pretty confused when he said Omega Canon
Was Rainbow colored in Super Metroid
"Don't, you'll drain the ship of its energy!"
@@minaminotaiyo6055 I like the sound of that!
Considering how quality your past movesets have been, I'm looking forward to more of these. Ganondorf is a stupid obvious character to make a video on, but I'd also love to see Mewtwo, Donkey Kong, Yoshi, Sonic, Zelda, Kirby, or Wario
bowser too. his moveset needs some serious modernization.
I feel like Shulk should also get a rework. His moveset is just... weird imo.
Two of his Monado Arts don't even exist in the actual Xenoblade game, those being Smash and Jump. Two other Monado Arts that ARE actually in Xenoblade also work completely differently. Those two being Buster and Shield. Speed works just like how it should though.
His up special should instead be Monado Cyclone, and his side special should be Monado Purge.
Mewtwo? No. NO!
While Kirby is mostly fine in its current form, I think he needs some slight reworking.
Some of his attacks could be one move per game and change to fit the context. Like making Stone his down air, rather than his down special and his down tilt, his slide attack.
Helps give Kirby a balance of old and new, while keeping the originality.
Mewtwo?
In what way has his moveset become old?
Slight thing to point out, Samus’ Brawl design is primarily her Super Metroid suit with some Prime flourishes. That said, I’d personally go for the Samus Returns Varia Suit as the traditional costume rather than Prime 4 since the former is still seen as the traditional one in the victory artwork in Dread. Not to mention that I’m curious if you can Shinespark while in a Morph Ball. That aside, it was fun editing the audio for this video.
As for potential other remakes, I say mainly stick to various kinds of fighting games. But that’s just my opinion.
Actually believe it or not it's based off her Zero Suit design. If you take a look at the Fully powered suit on the mission finale screen. You can see a lot of similarities. Not many people realize this but Brawls suit is actually Zero Missions end game suit.
@@Spykitty358 100% this.
Smash takes Samus' design from the most recent main series outing. Ultimate and Returns were just a bit too close together in development for it to work out there.
Since pressing up would exit Morph Ball, you wouldn't be able to use your up special with it.
@@DarkLink1996. Yet Link and Mario have costumes based on Breath of the Wild and Odyssey which came before and after Samus Returns the same year respectively, they just were lazy with Samus in Ultimate.
@@Geneolgia Both were officially announced well before Samus Returns, which only had months between announcement and release. Since Sakurai isn't officially employed by Nintendo, he probably doesn't get previews into unannounced games unless required. He worked with what he could access.
I'll give a kudos here. I'm not a fan of most Smash fan driven character reworks, most of the time they focus more on cramming in references to the point that they ignore both overall design and the current players of those characters. You struck a good balance between old and new and in a lot of ways, did what I would do to update the character. My problem with Samus is that there isn't that what's there is wrong but that is there is more that can be done with what's there. One suggestion I would have is the ability to angle projectiles, either cardinal directions or full 360 if the engine allowed it.
Oh and as for suggestions on who should be remade next? Olimar. Between bad silhouettes and poses, a lack of care for the Pikmin and a lack of strategy elements. Olimar might be the single worst designed fighter in the series to the point that I think people are turned off of Pikmin because of how he is in Smash.
@@Jamester445 I think Olimar is lacking, but they did make an effort - by Brawl newomer standards, he was interesting. Wario and Ganondorf are the ones that really stand out as missed opportunities, but Yoshi could slot in there too.
@@fraudcakes I feel like 3rd party characters have to be faithful to their games. With Nintendo characters, Sakurai is allowed to take some liberties.
@@orangeslash1667 My question is if the liberties are good ones. The attempts at faithfulness to the third party characters pretty much universally made them more fun and distinct. If he did that with Samus, Ganondorf and Yoshi the game would be richer for it.
@@fraudcakes Theres a reason why Travis, Dante, and Monster Hunter are Mii costumes. Sakurai looked at them and said Nope I can't put them in Smash without making some changes. Meaning if Samus was a third party character she would suffer the same fate as Doom guy.
Honestly, this is amazing. Just the right number of old moves and updated new stuff. Also like the synergy and thought you put between the moves!
I think this rework would be neatly brought together with an additional Metroid Dread-style passive:
"After using one of her (Dread style) counters attacks successfully, Samus locks onto the target for a very short moment, making her next neutral special automatically aim at the opponent.”
Giving her the option to follow up with a guaranteed hitting neutral special. This follow up could go into: Being an additional poke tool with guaranteed hit, to rack up damage - but with little to no kill power.
Or a react-able kill move, maybe a 50/50 depending if she charges the beam or not, to snipe enemies out of the air at higher precent, if the air-dodge or react badly.
This would not only add more source material to her tool kit, but solidify her half-zoner and Setups playstyle as a character.
Note: Hope you turn this into a series.
Something like:
-Uncharged: quick three-shot followup, no knockback, hitstun, or launch power. Just tacks on some extra damage
-Charged: Heavy hit, possibly only kills at 1.25x ~ 1.5x what it would take normally (to make up for it being almost guaranteed to hit)
I've been hoping you'd do something like this. Not sure if you're making it a series or not, but if you made more of these I'd definitely love to see them
This was great. Taking Samus and retooling what she has while keeping stuff that already worked. Really liked what you did here and would love to see more in the future.
Like someone also said, Flash Shift for ground/air directional dodge (Boost Ball when in Morph ball mode) and Phantom Cloak for spot dodge. Regular missiles shoot straight (no homing) but fire faster. Smash input missiles fire slightly slower, travel slower, but are ice missiles. For Final Smash, she gains the Metroid Suit and uses the Hyper Beam instead of Zero Laser. Also, for Morph ball mode, "A" for normal bombs, but "B" for Power Bombs (like Charge Beam), shorter range and it has a delay to detonate. Down tilt could be a slide (like Cloud). Grab jab could be rapidly firing the beam like in melee counter sequences. Since a lot of new characters have a gimmick, maybe hers would be switching between beams like in Prime (maybe using + Pad from taunts), slight mechanical differences, mostly aesthetic. For idle animation, lowers her Arm Cannon, sort of like Dread. I would like for one of the victory animations, she goes to Zero Suit
Been waiting for this one for a long time, and your take on a Samus moveset is incredible. You definitely should keep this as a side-series.
Would love to see more of these from you. Ganondorf for example. Maybe your version of Sora to include more of his capabilities? Kinda like how Sakurai kinda went ham with the full extent of Steve's capabilities.
That's because Third party character have to be faithful to their games. With Nintendo characters them being faithful to their games is optional.
Lifelong Samus main here. Great ideas for the rework! I especially love downthrow and jab rework with beam shots coming out. You'd think Samus would shoot a gun more often if it's built into her arm!
I normally hate these kind of videos where they "remake" or "improve" something but after you mentioned all of the reworks I got to hand it to you, you actually made a really kickass version of Samus that I hella want to play. I hope they take any of your reworks because they are all bangers.
I'd love to see you make more Remake It! videos like this, you did a great job overhauling Samus' moveset while still making it familiar enough for Smash veterans. I can only imagine how you'd retool other Smash veterans.
While I do like the idea of the omega Canon, I feel like the Metroid suit would be a much cooler final smash. Samus gets filled with rage and the desire to survive and transforms into a metroid and fires the blast from the end of metroid dread, and you can aim it up and down like Inkling's FS. Once it ends, an X parasite floats towards her and changes her back to her base form. Canonically doesn't make a lot of sense, but a LOT of smash lore doesn't, soooo yeah🤣
This is exactly what I was thinking, but question. I was confused about why he mentioned the Ω cannon instead of the Metroid suit, but the more I think about it, that could be kind of spoiler-y for people who haven't played Dread yet...what do you think?
Awesome closeout idea with the x parasite btw
@@rp-lopez It could be a big spoiler, but by the time the next smash game comes out, I think it will be past that time. I mean, stores are finally putting Grogu's name in merchandise. Just depends I suppose. And thank you! :)
Even though I'm not a Metroid fan I recently picked up Samus as a secondary and I think you did her justice. I'd love to see your take on other Veterans like Sonic or Ganondorf since many people have complained on how their movesets poorly represented their character/games.
Personally, there's certain characters that while having outdated movesets are still really fun to play as and/or watch in tournaments like DK and Jigglypuff. Excited to see this concept done with other games too!
I love this - this is a series I can legitimately get behind! Well done!
Nice, I guessed the subject. I'd love to see Jigglypuff or Ganondorf in this new series too
This is a wonderful video and a wonderful video concept. I look forward to more!
I'd love to see more videos like this. There are lots of Smash characters that I feel could've been handled better, especially ones from older games, and I'm interested to see how you'd change their movesets up.
Keep these up!
Love this so much. 100% the best Samus redesign I've seen so far. This is the definitive Samus moveset in my mind.
I would be more than happy to see more videos like this!
This was really well done! I would totally love this to be a new series!
Love this series man! Keep it up
Very nice! I'd love to see more character reworks, or any of the other subjects you mentioned toward the end :)
So glad I found this video--I've wanted a cool AND viable Samus design in Smash for forever. Spamus upsets me because of how cool she *should* be. Now I'm sad I can't actually go and play this version of Samus... and that's how I know your rework is excellent.
I really like this setup! This is a series that has a ton of potential, even outside of movesets.
Gotta say, after watching a few of your moveset vids: You are easily the best person do this I've come across on the net. Usually fan movesets are just.................................yeh. Thank you for this. It's fun to imagine something that actually seems logical, fresh and fun! For all the characters you've done.
Delzethin? More like Mr. Based and W. Samus desperately needs a Revamp. Nice.
This is awesome! I'd love to see you overhaul Ganondorf
I should say for the final smash, that she should maybe use her Metroid drainig power.
that might be spoiler territory. Nintendo tends to avoid that with their characters in that smash game
@@Anths_art you’re right. But this would be just cool.
@@metroidultimfan2552 I feel like 3rd party characters have to be faithful to their games. With Nintendo characters, Sakurai is allowed to take some liberties.
Really like this iteration of a fan move set. Really creative
I love this new video of retooling older movesets from Smash fighters, and giving them newer, updated versions from their modern games! :D You've done a tremendous job of giving Samus brand new abilities since her moveset has become dated for more than 2 decades, and the recent Smash installment doesn't even use her appearance from Samus Returns, so this would be the perfect opportunity to include many of the attacks from her newest game especially since I was so disappointed that Breath Of The Wild Link was mostly just aesthetic changes, and didn't receive much of an upgrade, same with Mario not adding elements from Super Mario Odyssey (I mean, I get not wanting to change him too drastically since he's meant to be a fighter for beginners, but they wouldn't have to change too much, just replace his cape from Super Mario World with his tail power-up from Super Mario Bros. 3 since it would still have the same function, involve Cappy for Mario's grab by possessing them, have them attack themselves when possessed, then toss them in any direction for release, give Mario a much better Final Smash such as the possessed T-Rex from Odyssey, etc.), Luigi not borrowing many materials from the Luigi Mansion series, several of the Inkling's moveset involves them using their limbs, as well as them physically grabbing their opponents despite them not doing either in their games, etc. Regardless, I hope you'll continue the "Remake It!" series with more characters that really need an upgrade, veterans, and newcomers alike, such as Ganondorf so he doesn't feel like a clone of Captain Falcon anymore, Sonic The Hedgehog so he doesn't rely on himself curling into a ball so often, Daisy so she isn't a straight up copy of Peach since I know there's plenty of source material for her to use to be her own unique fighter, the Super Mario Land series, and the spin-offs (one of my wanted characters finally made it in, and, she's hardly original), etc.! I'd also be down with you doing other videos too, Delzethin! It'd be a nice change of pace! Look forward to the next video!
That said, I don't know if we can rely too heavily on there being future Smash installments. I mean, I don't wanna jump to conclusions, but I have read several articles that Sakurai isn't entirely sure if he's going to continue the series since the recent game took so much out of him, and his entire team to the point where he had to use an IV drip just to keep him going--yeah, that actually happened--so, for all we know, this could actually be it, and I have read that Sakurai did try having someone else take over for him, but it didn't pan out too well, so who knows what the future holds for the franchise especially since he doesn't plan on retiring till at the age of 60? I rather him , and his whole crew take a massive vacation for now, they deserved it (even if it's a little disappointing that Special's updates ended so early)!
@@kingnewcomer2029 I feel like 3rd party characters have to be faithful to their games. With Nintendo characters, Sakurai is allowed to take some liberties.
Love how you added the shinespark into the moveset
This is probably the best moveset redesign i’ve seen on youtube honestly. I’d love to see you tackle characters like Ganondorf, Sonic, or even a smaller video about changing a few moves (like giving Ike Ragnell’s actual ability in FE!)
Her final smash should has turned her into her Metroid form so she can fire her really powerful beam that she has in that form it would be smaller but more powerful
Love that though I would also love the Metroid suit to be an alternate costume too.
This, but make the beam be a rainbow that ends in a steady red so that we get a Super Metroid reference.
Could definetly enjoy more videos like this even if its not for smash id like to see what other games youd make concepts for as well
Superb! Really liking the blend of new and updated old here, especially the influences from _Dread_ and _Prime 3._ If you're taking requests for updated movesets; Ganondorf, Wario and Mewtwo would be great to see!
That sounds like an awesome rework!
The only thing I’d change would be the final smash. Instead of the omega cannon, it would be
*MAJOR DREAD SPOILERS*
The Metroid suit. Basically is the same as her old final smash, but she transforms when she shoots and it’s a red beam like in the game.
I think you should keep doing these but I'm also interested in hearing you talk about the JRPG plots and other fighting games
I was about to say "Ganon Next" but I havent even looked at the rest of your channel... Imma go check that.
Fantastic video
I've always thought it'd be a cool idea to have Samus able to charge all of her special moves to bring in new upgrades. Missiles charge to super missiles, charge beam, and bombs can charge into power bombs. With this moveset it would also give the shinespark a charge effect, increasing its distance and damage. Metroid's combat often involves careful positioning and timing while preparing for the right time to unleash a powerful hit so I think it'd reflect that playstyle really well
DEFINITELY a series I’d love to see more of if you had the inspiration for it. Everybody talks about Ganon and Sonic (for good reason, and either of those would also be great), but there’s still less discussed characters like Mario, Link, Kirby, Bowser, and obviously Samus, among others. Great video!
I wasn't expecting to kerp samus' old playstyle mostly in tact for this video, but once you explained all the moves it makes complete sense rather than making her closer to mega man like other ideas threw around. I'l love to see a modern take on Mario.
This was great fun to watch, and I feel lucky that it's my introduction to the 'remaking character playstyles' kind of vid.
It all seems interesting at least or *really* appealing at best. I will note that I worry the full-on shift to Morph Ball as a 'mode' might be too much; that's a potentially catastrophic amount of complexity to introduce into a situation of high speed reactions and particle effects going everywhere, worse still if it locks you out of any kind of attack option but bombs.
I also hesitate at any kind of lowering of her overall attack power, but honestly tweaking it to improve her combo and general up close ability just feels right for the "eat your heart out, Kratos" version of her we have now.
Would definitely watch a series about this.
This would be an awesome series! There's so much potential to make these characters way better than Nintendo ever could
Great job! I love how it turned out in the end.
Seeing as quite a lot of people mentioned flash shift as dodge, I'll skip it. However there are two things I would add. First I'd add ball spark. You could shave a few start up frames comparing to the normal version, as in Dread speedrun, in speedbooster tutorial, it saves a little bit of time. And Metroid is known as one of THE speedgames. Then second, I'd like to include slide. I think it was one of the most suprising elements of Dread, but its hard to incorporate it into the moveset without overcrowding it. There already is crawling in Smash, so maybe slide wouldn't be too much. Though there is also an idea to add it to the dash turnaround animation with lowered hitbox!
Looking foreward to more of this!
Would be really dope honestly. Nice work
More of this please!
This was really enjoyable to watch.
I have one issue, personally speaking. I absolutely agree with the counter swipe being used for her Up-Tilt and Dash Attack, but, I feel /also/ having it as her Forward Air steps into the Sonic and Mewtwo territory of "we do the same thing for 5 different attacks". (I would also change her up or side smash to a different beam, personally speaking.)
I'd also personally give her the Space Jump, either as her Up-B, or just as multiple jumps, but that's not a gripe as much as just a personal taste, I suppose.
I would LOVE to see this series continue. I’m definitely biased towards smash since there are so many characters that need reworks (Ganon, Sonic, Banjo, Lucario, etc) and I would love to see your creative spin on it!!
Why Banjo?
@@charlieharrington9555 no reason outside of him being bad
@@Sergio-wc1wn Banjo is as faithful to his games as we can get. You can Check out (know your moves Banjo), for proof.
I was hoping you'd do something like this! I love your approach to smash movesets so I'd definitely want to see more of this, but those other ideas you proposed for this series sound cool too.
The only thing in this rework that I'd really want to change is that I don't like the current incarnation of her missiles. An idea I've had for a while is trading out her super missiles for an ice missile, and giving both limited ammo pools (5 and 1 respectively) that you recharge faster by hitting opponents. This would encourage playing more into her half-zoning playstyle, and also reflect how they function in her series more closely, being powerful but limited resources that you gain back by attacking enemies and projectiles. Some other ideas I had include giving her the slide from Dread as a gap-closing DTilt, and replacing her grab pummel with... well I won't mention it for spoiler reasons but those who have played Dread probably know what I'm referring to.
This episode actually had quite a few similarities to my own ideas I've had on a document for a Samus rework. FTilt, BAir, and UAir staying the same, DAir being an explosive arm cannon thrust, a pinning point-blank shot for her DThrow, even the NSpecial and DSpecial near 1-1. Great minds think alike I guess lol.
This was a wonderful video! As someone who really hopes veteran fighters get retooled kits in the next Smash game (and as a huge Dread fan), I loved watching it!! I hope you'll do more! Personally I'd love it if you retooled Sonic's who has had a bit of a laughably uninspired moveset for quite some time...
These ideas make sense!
Edit: An addition for the side special, you could let your finger on the button to charge some Storm Missiles!
An issue I see with letting Samus change into her Morph Ball for an extended amount of time is how grabbing interacts with her. Would people be unable to grab her in ball form, or would being a grabbing hitbox make her exit ball form automatically?
Another thing I think would be neat is a Shield Special that changes the Beam type for her Neutral Special.
The grab would go over samus entirely
Oh, that Shield Special is a great idea. I’d make it so it swaps into the Ice Beam, since I think that’s the only main power-up she’s still missing in this moveset. I think Project M had something like that for Samus.
Actually, I feel like everyone should get a Shield Special in the next Smash game.
That second idea could be cool if it allowed you to swap between the old version of chargeshot and this new variable version. The old version can be called the plasma beam and the old one can be the regular charge beam
some characters like snake have grabs that angle downward. while it seems really really strong to juke grabs, kirby, jiggs and other characters can just do that and it would be considered part of the matchup
Wait really??
I think this was well thought-out! It would be great to see Samus's moveset get a redesign considering how much her Smash and main series iterations have diverged, and this hits a lot of the beats that would be familiar to someone who's played Dread.
If I were to update her moveset, I would give her 5 jumps, similar to Kirby, but the last 3 jumps have the screw attack active. Her neutral air could stay as-is. That's sort of how it already works in Prime 2, though it would be more vertical than horizontal.
Also, Final Smash should definitely be the thing she did at the end of Dread.
And I want Raven Beak in Smash.
Something you could add to this new moveset is to charge with the attack button in morph ball to use cross bombs as well!
Overall an amazing redesign, to bad we aren't going to see this in action any time soon because
why do people think we're getting another smash game?
People think we will get a new smash game is because Smash makes a lot of money for Nintendo. They wouldn’t just stop doing them
this is absolutely perfect and so cool. the one thing id add is some way to use power bombs, either somehow incorporated into her final smash or a less powerful version of them as a charged alt of the bombs in morph ball form
was expecting you to have actually made the mod considering the title, but still, cool theory crafting. also pm did some of this already
This is Great! Im glad your concept for Samus Moveset was modernized and updated in a great way! Could you PLEASE do Dr. Mario next?
As main Samus, I can say that I love this moveset for Samus, it has been a character from my childhood and I always wanted to see some update in its arsenal, but with the few games and the great wait between each one, it was easy to expect that there would not be much material, but I consider that this is a very good job although I would personally maintain her neutral air, up-b and down-throw.
I’d love to see more videos like this! Do one for Ganondorf!
This is honestly amazing
It's good that you decided to redesign the Smash characters' movesets. I would really like you to do almost the same thing, but with Mario, since his moveset set has not changed since the days of Brawl. I really wanted him to have more abilities from the main games and spinoffs, such as the Mario & Luigi series and Super Mario RPG.
I really hope this is the path that future smash depictions take.
And i speak as a samus main in elite smash
Yes! Please make this a new series! Remake old fighters' movesets, talk about new fighters, and DO ALL THE THINGS!
Sets the bar very high for what the series has in store. I agree with everything suggested, it doesn’t feel like it has too MANY changes, and the playstyle stays relatively the same. This remake checks all the boxes. [8.5/10]
I really liked what you did with Samus, think you can do it for our blue blur? Sonic Frontiers showed us new stuff like abilities, combat, and more but it’s still on development probably
I hope you have enjoyed the new graphical details on the video :)
If this becomes a series, do either Ganondorf or Sonic next.
I love this. If you do another one of these, I would love to see a retool of Mario’s move set from some of his newer games like Odyssey, Galaxy, and 3D World.
Me too. And also stuff from New Super Mario Bros U, Mario Maker 2, 64, Sunshine, Bowser's Fury, and Wonder
Loved this video! A really good balance and if I feel if they were to overhaul this, they could keep purists happy by leaving Dark Samus as she is, a clone of an older Samus. As for other characters, I'd love to see you cover Donkey Kong, whose moveset was entirely invented for Smash, so much so that modern DK games have drawn inspo from it, and yet it doesn't feature barrels, climbing or any of the abilities from his actual games.
This is really good
Remake Young Link's moveset to make him more focused on Majora's Mask!
I didn't know Norm McDonald had a TH-cam channel hahaha. Love this moves tho, I think the icing on the cake would be using her flash move as the air dodge, and possibly holding B in morph ball to do the cross bombs instead.
I'd love to see more videos like this for veterans. Off the top of my head, I'd like to see your take on a more series faithful Wario (Land and Ware alike), or perhaps a revamped Toon Link that takes advantage of the fact that his games have unique equipment and weapons the other Links don't use in Smash.
would love to see more of these! I personally would’ve made a lot more changes here, but I understand the desire to not alienate current Samus mains. Great video, I’d love to see Mario redone to incorporate his horizontal arial movement of Odyssey or DK completely reworked
3:23 This is the biggest good surprise of this video. The more I played dread, the more I thought fans that just retooled her neutral B to Jab and Fsmash were missing the point, I happy to see that your rework felt more interessting. than that.
Now, I Just had one little I idea I want to had too, rework here run animation so that visually, it looks like she's using the speedbooster, since you implemented the shinespark, I feel the speedbooster feel also to be included but not as an attack.
Coming from both a die hard Metroid fan and a long time Samus main, these ideas are pretty good. Although i think it would be cool to have Samus have 2 final smashes, one of which be the Omega Cannon like you said and maybe the other one can combo with the new morph ball and turn it into a power bomb that will blow up a large area and do serious damage and maybe instant kill targets like her old Zero Lazer depending on where you get caught. And anyone outside of the blast gets sucked into the centre of the detonation like with items in the games.
This is amazing
This is brilliant! I'd also make it so that the Neutral b had a function similar to shulks mondo arts, allowing you to change the beam upgrade
I can already see down tilt spike on stage to change beam jump hit box to fully changed change beam as a neat combo set up with this move set. Maybe even a shine spark straight through the opponent if charge beam can combo into it. And I don't even use Samus. Great move set!
@Delzethin I love the concept. The only thing I would change is having the Smash Ball power her up to Metroid form and give her two form-specific abilities. One, a rapid gap-closer that is based on the grab, which has her drain her targets, increasing their damage while healing hers for a significant chunk. And the ender, well... the fancy dandy hyper beam sounds GREAT to me! Blasts a huge area on the screen and massively increases damage %. Anyone over 120 is toast. Anyone under is pretty well locked into it until she's done. Last jaunt of the beam pushes and confirms kills. The same animation length for her old super-beam is ideal, but it also seems scarier coming from a Samus who has given in to her newfound "galactic predator" powers.
Either or works for me. Both sound cool.
As much as I like her final smash, just imagine it as an animation displaying all of her upgrades and abilities would be awesome, she could Ragnarok you with the speedbooster/shinespark, power bomb you up and screw attack through you before unleashing the hyper beam or something
I like the final smash but damn I completely forgot about the omega cannon so immediately thought is it going to be the Full Metroid Beam from Metroid Suit Samus.
This is an inspired moveset and I love it. One thing I'd like to add though is maybe if we wanna buff Samus's recovery even further we could incorporate the Flash-Shift into it as well? We could make it so tapping Up-B would send her to do a Flash-Shift in one of 8 directions, making her intangible for the duration but with shorter range, and have her able to use it three times in midair before going into freefall, but if she holds Up-B it'll become the Shine Spark, where it can only be used a single time before going into freefall, goes a longer distance and has a hitbox.
For example, Samus could do Flash Shift, Flash Shift, Shine Spark to get the absolute maximum distance out of the move.
I kinda also did this because I like the platforming challenges some people make in custom stages and I want Samus to be better at those.
A few additions I have would be that the flash shift could fit in as a directional air dodge really nice with the long end lag it has in dread, also her down tilt could be the slide from dread, it would probably work lilke the ones other charachters have.
And about keeping her (or in general other older charachters) smash identity: I think the new echo fighters really open up the possibilities for full on new move sets, like mario for example could get a brand new odyssey (+3d world, galaxy etc.) move set, while dr. mario gets a little quicker and more like mario for the fans of classic Mario. Same would go for Link/Young Link, maybe Pikachu/Pichu and Samus/Dark Samus.
for example for a secret one on stock or sudden death, is if you use the smash ability on any enemy and you win by using the final smash on the last enemy you will get the secret final selection screen were samus is in her ship and the dead mawkin turns into the x parasite at the end turns her back into gravity suit and then she does the iconic thumbs up
Yes Yea Yes new series!
i feel like down tilt couldve been the slide and pressing A again does the leg sweep melee counter from dread (kinda like bayonetta side b)
dodging would visually reference flash shift, but otherwise works the same as other fighters
and her throw animations could reference the emmi parry where she pushes it away and does a roundhouse kick
also shes gotta have a taunt/victory pose where she does the pose after absorbing the chozo warriors late game
finally her final smash which (SPOILERS BELOW)
it could be like a ryu situation where she either fires hyper beam while donning her metroid suit, or absorbs an enemy's health by lunging at them when theyre closeby, killing them at 100% or more
otherwise good stuff, samus rlly needs a rework LOL
I had a similar idea to this awhile so I’m happy to see you bring it to life. Only critique? Samus should have two final smashes. Yes sure give her the omega cannon.
But. Give her a second final smash tied to the morph ball where you can go into morph ball mode and press B to plant a power bomb.
Awesome video as usual; and I hope to see you hit another veteran soon. You should do… Mario or Ganondorf. Lord knows those two could use a rework.
Pretty great, i do think I would focus on making her down special switch the kind of power suit she is using, allowing changes to each one as a different variant, floatier jump and bigger spark on Varia suit, also keeping default as the morph ball bombs, another suit could be zero and maybe fusion switches to ice beam missiles that can freeze oponents
This would be an awesome retool for Samus! I love how you implemented new things for her, while still keeping some of her old moves. Personally, I'd also have her use the Phase Shift as her side dodge as well. Maybe keep her final smash the same as well, just change the name and its color since Metroid Dread kind of gave her a new beam similar to it. (or rather, changed how an old beam functions to resemble the Zero Laser) (and I'm wording it like this to try and hide spoilers)
I'd love to see a retool of Wario, Ganondorf, and Sonic! Maybe Yoshi as well, though I think the only problem he has is his side special.
this is so good. i'd love to see something like this for ganondorf
As a big time metroid fan and ex-Samus main.
I might cry from pure joy
This is perfect
I would LOVE to see you do a video along these lines for Jigglypuff. Obviously there are some things that need to stay, like Pound and Rest, but there's so much potential present with Puff's playstyle that I think you'd have a ton of material to work with.