Eu tambem amigo, esse chefe é simplesmente fantástico, marcou minha infância no PS2, os movimentos dele são geniais.Sinto saudades de chefes assim hj em dia (Me too bro, this boss is just fantastic, he marked my childhood on PS2, his movements are great. I miss bosses like this today) watch my video on critical mode pon ps4 and like please th-cam.com/video/gb90s4Sq_2c/w-d-xo.html
I’m kinda sad we didn’t get a refight later in the game like Darkside got in KH1, it would have been interesting to fight this tutorial boss at full power.
This just makes the boss unique to Roxas, also yeah, kinda crazy we got to fight it only once, so detailed and full of animations and all of that in a PS2 game.
I'm gonna be honest. When I first played this part on the PS2 at the young age that i was, I was horrified. Plus, he destroyed me in less than a minute, because I didn't comprehend that all I had to do was mash the triangle button. So everytime I wanted to play the game and went to the part where you choose the sword, staff and shield, I would quit the game, afraid to fight the boss. Now, years later, I found 2.5 on the PS3, and when i went to this part after all those years, I felt the familiar dread, but once I found out to press that triangle button, it amazed me how simple it was. So after beating him, the rest of the game was completely new territory for me.
Omg dude I did the exact same thing! I always got my butt whooped by this boss because I never understood that’s all I needed to do lmao I played the tutorial so many times 😂
I felt the same but for some reason always felt like this fight was one of my most favorite, literally like 15+ years later I still comeback and watch this boss fight.
I remember the original fight on PS2. Reversal reaction came up so much you could spend almost the entire fight weaving around Thorn and hitting him with almost no fear of getting hit back. Made me feel like a badass.
Nicolas Villanueva I think the twilight thorn is what happened when you turned Roxas into a monstrous generic nobody form and the strength he can surmount to, like ansem when he gained the nobody knight form in the final boss battle
Asaura 4500 Well we have heartless like the darkside that is also huge but that I think has to do with the darkness itself. I think Jiminy's Journal lists it as a nobody that invaded or attacked him and not as a representation.
I think it's just Roxas's equivalent of Darkside from... pretty much every game in the series that includes Sora. Sora fights the darkness inside his heart, and Roxas fights for a heart.
@@jinx1987 I know this comment is old but: If you played Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days on Nintendo DS you would have met her. I believe she’s a fake Nobody or something like that. Shes throughout that whole game pretty much, she’s also the final boss. I forgot her true origin since I haven’t played it since like 2011.
@@nimcie8377 I must say even that doesn't exactly use his concept in its full potential. Intro merely gave a taste and then just kinda was left there. Days is nice little story but once again does not use the potential there was.
@@Yurikon3 bro play the actual 365/2 game on an emulator or ds, the Remake movie doesn't compare well and they cut out a significant amount of content compared to the game
So roxas falls towards the ground after using break raid head first and hits the ground so hard that his entire body becomes a ragdoll and does not sustain a concussion when it happens TWICE
square cube law: terminal velocity is helped by weight, proportional to volume(cube) but hampered by air resistance which is proportional to your area(square)... smaller things have smaller terminal velocities hence are more[all other things being equal] resistant to falls; Cats can easily survive falls from heights we'd die from: 90% of the cats 132 brought to veterinary after falling from *high rise buildings* in New York, only 37% needed emergency treatment to survive. Ants can take falls at terminal velocities like it's nothing; So I'd assume that fall on a twilight thorn would be most damaging, specially considering it is consistence wasn't that tough to begin with.
i imagine this is what a sleep paralasis demon looks like and how they move. Imagine waking up and seeing this thing randomly, and you dont know why but now you have to fight it
@@kingcamelot1395 and the Final fantasy half is gone.KH3 was a great let down. You can't compare frozen level with Aladdin or beast levels. Even the Disney part sucks. They put the latest Disney movies and removes every final fantasy characters. Because they don't care about the fans. They care about bringing new people to the franchise, they're younger and most of them didn't play final fantasy games that were in old gen consoles. That been Said I'll never touch a kingdom hearts game again. Sometimes I feel nostalgic to those old games we grew up with
I played the original so much that I didn’t know you learned scan after the first axel battle i usually level up before this boss battle until i get scan but i leveled up to 10 wondering why I didn’t get scan
I’m on proud mode right now and this thing has kicked my ass 4 times 😭 I picked the shield so idk if that’ll help with the damage he gives me but man. My first boss fight in any kingdom hearts game and I’m already struggling like this. Embarrassing 💀 Edit: before my 6th try I found out you can go back to the previous room and save. Everytime I came back the enemies respawned so I grind for a bit. Beat all of them, go back and save, and repeat until I hit level 7 (was lvl 2). My strength + defense was increased and I had more potions to use and gained a new ability that helps improve how items work by 50%. So yeah I was pretty much set 💆🏾♀️only used 1 potion during the fight and finished the guy pretty easily.
Am I the only one who wish Darksider was just as interesting and fun to fight as the Twilight Thorn. We only fight this guy once and in this fight you learn how to do reaction commands. He moves around the area like a horror film monster and he can literally flip the area if he feels like it. What can Darksider do I'm going to punch the ground very slowly so you can Dodge it easily. Oh my dark balls of energy you can just hit those back at me.
I remember watching my older brother play this when we were younger and being honestly creeped out by this things movements, and when we got this for ps4 and I had my first playthrough, the memories flooded my mind and I was honestly still a little creeped out by it. (I’m now 21 and just liking back honestly just makes me feel uneasy.)
Forget Lovecraft! Now we finally have interdimensional horrors created by Nomura-san! Also in the Twilight Thorn reaction command, insert MGRR OST's Rules of Nature here:
Analysis is that much like that giant heartless Sora fights in his Station level, this is Roxas fighting his "anti" form for control of his "heart", but since Roxas is in Sora's Station, it'll affect Sora as well if he loses. Whe he does win, the excess darkness that made up the anti-nobody form attempt to infect the tired Roxas. Naminé, also in connection to Sora's heart, sensed this and is able to help him through the social link feature they flesh out later
I have a theory about the black Thorn I believe it's Roxas memories of Xion that created this nobody my reasoning is since Lauriem could summon something similar to Strelizia with his memories of her why can't Roxas and it gives you a little hint as we someone the same height as Roxas staring at him or this could be Roxas staring at himself.
The Twilight Thorn Race: Nobody Element: Nothingness Abilities: The Power of Nothingness, Combo Punch, Toss Up, Light Ball, Thorn Beam, One-Handed Sweep, Two-Handed Sweep, Luminescence, Ultimate Beam Home: The Realm of Nothingness Location: Twilight Town (The Dive to the Heart: The Station of Calling) Minions: Dusk Nobodies, Creeper Nobodies Alignment: Organization XIII Status: Active
It’s weird how they changed roxas voice when he’s falling down to the sphere. I liked his yell a lot better on the PS2 version, it sounded a lot more intense.
the one thing that really bugs me about the remix's is how they move the music to the begining of the game play instead of playing it over the scene like it originally did
The movement alone made me realize how different Nobodies are from Heartless
Also Heartless are sometimes cute looking but ALL THE NOBODIES are creepy!
@@thesergalladaf6902makes sense due to Nobodies being hollow, flexible shells that were formed from the creation of Heartless
@roberthaggerty8887 I had nightmares for a couple days and I was 13 when I first played this. Basic one wanted to bite my head off.
I love the Thorn's movements. So freaky... Imagine him normal size following you through the woods at night.
Nobody? More like Slenderbody.
Gshift
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Eu tambem amigo, esse chefe é simplesmente fantástico, marcou minha infância no PS2, os movimentos dele são geniais.Sinto saudades de chefes assim hj em dia
(Me too bro, this boss is just fantastic, he marked my childhood on PS2, his movements are great. I miss bosses like this today)
watch my video on critical mode pon ps4 and like please
th-cam.com/video/gb90s4Sq_2c/w-d-xo.html
He ist so elastic
He literally came from an Animator’s dream.
Love how the boss was beaten by hitting the platform.
more like breaking its neck lol
yeah i used that techique because i wanted to end the battle in a cool way
@Andrew Vlack How do you do that?
The way Roxas was sprawled on the glass at the same time though, you'd think it was a tie.
@@geocross237 Yes. It would be funny if it showed Roxas died too and the game over screen happened lol
I’m kinda sad we didn’t get a refight later in the game like Darkside got in KH1, it would have been interesting to fight this tutorial boss at full power.
This just makes the boss unique to Roxas, also yeah, kinda crazy we got to fight it only once, so detailed and full of animations and all of that in a PS2 game.
Twilight Thorn is already harder than 10 Darksides combined. Imagine if there was a rematch at a higher level!
But as sora and he would have a audio clip like “I feel like I’ve seen this thing before… but why?”
Twilight Thorns is so unique but it’s baffling that we don’t refight it again.
Wait, this is a TUTORIAL BOSS???
I love how everyone's first action against this boss is trying to attack it before it traps you.
To be Fair during first playthroughs you don't know his attacks
whattttt use to shtt bricks as an 8 year old
Player: It's fine, it's probably like the Darkside in the first game!
Also Player: OH MY GOD IT'S NOT! LET ME GO!
@@chr1s415 Yea, that’s true.
Always wondered why they gave Roxas magic gauge if he couldn’t even use it
IT'S JUST A FRANK BRO!
Misdirection, to make you think you were going to use Roxas longer.
Isn't potions considered as magic?
@@theedwardian That's the real answer yeah
His ex years as an organization member he used magic so even he doesn't use it doesn't mean it goes away
The first time I killed twilight thorn with a reaction command it actually startled me
I love it how nobodies are basically living ragdolls! Their physics is so enteraning and creepy at the same time.
Living Ragdolls? That’s probably the right word to decide Nobodies.
I'm gonna be honest. When I first played this part on the PS2 at the young age that i was, I was horrified. Plus, he destroyed me in less than a minute, because I didn't comprehend that all I had to do was mash the triangle button. So everytime I wanted to play the game and went to the part where you choose the sword, staff and shield, I would quit the game, afraid to fight the boss. Now, years later, I found 2.5 on the PS3, and when i went to this part after all those years, I felt the familiar dread, but once I found out to press that triangle button, it amazed me how simple it was. So after beating him, the rest of the game was completely new territory for me.
Omg dude I did the exact same thing! I always got my butt whooped by this boss because I never understood that’s all I needed to do lmao I played the tutorial so many times 😂
Raiden aka Jack the Ripper h
I felt the same but for some reason always felt like this fight was one of my most favorite, literally like 15+ years later I still comeback and watch this boss fight.
Returning to see the lost.
I remember the original fight on PS2. Reversal reaction came up so much you could spend almost the entire fight weaving around Thorn and hitting him with almost no fear of getting hit back. Made me feel like a badass.
5:20 How to beat twilight thorn:
Make it break its neck lol
Okay, that was pretty funny.🤣
_Jesus,_ what a way to defeat a boss.
And what a way to _go out_ as a boss.
Just get your neck fuckin'...
B r o k i n g .
Literally he kill himself.
1:37 Special attack, mega destruction dark ball of darkness and destruction
And knuckles....
Yes... just yes
If nobodies are the husks of people who have lost their hearts. Was the twilight thorn originally a giant based on how huge it is compared to roxas?
Nicolas Villanueva I think the twilight thorn is what happened when you turned Roxas into a monstrous generic nobody form and the strength he can surmount to, like ansem when he gained the nobody knight form in the final boss battle
Asaura 4500 Well we have heartless like the darkside that is also huge but that I think has to do with the darkness itself. I think Jiminy's Journal lists it as a nobody that invaded or attacked him and not as a representation.
I think is a remnant of Xion's final form from days
I think it's just Roxas's equivalent of Darkside from... pretty much every game in the series that includes Sora.
Sora fights the darkness inside his heart, and Roxas fights for a heart.
It's the counterpart to Darkside from the first game.
Roxas panicking while the thorn is falling is funny
That finisher was beautiful...
I’m drowning in nostalgia
1:46 that’s a broken spine
Don't worry he have to much hp
*5:24
So... Did anyone notice that hooded figure around 0:07? Because replaying the game I just did.
Fifi Germanotta I think the boss is xion’s transformation when fighting her in the 365/7 day game
Fifi Germanotta WTF, WHO
IS THAT!?
@@jinx1987 Most likely riku since they were keeping there eye on him
@@jinx1987 I know this comment is old but:
If you played Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days on Nintendo DS you would have met her. I believe she’s a fake Nobody or something like that. Shes throughout that whole game pretty much, she’s also the final boss. I forgot her true origin since I haven’t played it since like 2011.
@@McaCasey iirc she is a replica of sora created by namine
So if dark thorn was fought in KH1
and Twilight Thorn was in KH2
Will Bright Thorn/ Light thorn be in KH3? lol
Yeah, maybe we could have a prologue with soras heartless or something
Uhh you fought darkside in kh1...
Nope, just another Darkside. Curse you Nomura.
Vitto Lorenzo Baylon Bisu╤a it was Chrome dark side
Who else watch this fight just to hear roxas say “COME ON”
KH2 really should have been Roxas' game. His intro and concept held very much potential and athmosphere.
well if u asking for roxas game i recommend u to play kh 358/2day but yea the graphic kinda old hope they remake it
No it shouldn’t have. You got 4 hours of him and 358/2 days right after
@@nimcie8377 I must say even that doesn't exactly use his concept in its full potential. Intro merely gave a taste and then just kinda was left there. Days is nice little story but once again does not use the potential there was.
@@Yurikon3 bro play the actual 365/2 game on an emulator or ds, the Remake movie doesn't compare well and they cut out a significant amount of content compared to the game
@@nimcie8377 clown
So roxas falls towards the ground after using break raid head first and hits the ground so hard that his entire body becomes a ragdoll and does not sustain a concussion when it happens TWICE
Yet the boss freaking took damage from the first fall and DIED from the second fall
He broke his neck lol
@@azurestarseliph5926 No Fall Damage in Kingdom Hearts except for bad guys
@@MementoDespair
Considering how most Disney villains die from falling a long distance I'd say it's pretty fitting😝
square cube law: terminal velocity is helped by weight, proportional to volume(cube) but hampered by air resistance which is proportional to your area(square)... smaller things have smaller terminal velocities hence are more[all other things being equal] resistant to falls;
Cats can easily survive falls from heights we'd die from: 90% of the cats 132 brought to veterinary after falling from *high rise buildings* in New York, only 37% needed emergency treatment to survive.
Ants can take falls at terminal velocities like it's nothing;
So I'd assume that fall on a twilight thorn would be most damaging, specially considering it is consistence wasn't that tough to begin with.
i imagine this is what a sleep paralasis demon looks like and how they move. Imagine waking up and seeing this thing randomly, and you dont know why but now you have to fight it
Geez both Roxas and Twilight Thorn has experienced some serious brain damage man
Both are nobody
As a kid this boss on the hardest difficulty was impossible- music was super memorable tho!
If there was anything I could become, it would be a sentient Twilight Thorn. It's so flexible and fast.
So I found out that the tension rising from Corona in KH3 fits well with this whole fight. Play the song at around 0:07 of the video and enjoy.
5:22 EPIC FINISH
This just shows how great kingdom hearts is without Disney characters.
On the contrary, Kingdom Hearts would only be half of itself without Disney characters.
Tell that to kh 1
@@kingcamelot1395 and the Final fantasy half is gone.KH3 was a great let down. You can't compare frozen level with Aladdin or beast levels.
Even the Disney part sucks. They put the latest Disney movies and removes every final fantasy characters. Because they don't care about the fans. They care about bringing new people to the franchise, they're younger and most of them didn't play final fantasy games that were in old gen consoles.
That been Said I'll never touch a kingdom hearts game again.
Sometimes I feel nostalgic to those old games we grew up with
@@luc7478 so no kh4?
KH is a Square Enix property. Meaning that if the maker decided to stop using Disney characters he could no problem.
I played the original so much that I didn’t know you learned scan after the first axel battle i usually level up before this boss battle until i get scan but i leveled up to 10 wondering why I didn’t get scan
Shadowofchaos 21 this is the final mix version, thats why its different
Alex MYL hell i didn’t even know what a final mix was when i played
Doesn't it depend on which item[wand, shield, sword] you choose?
@@matheusjahnke8643 from my knowledge from 6 years ago I think that you are right 😂
Had that been me, that kid would've succumbed to Darkness.
You would've had your ass handed to you even worse you damn edgelord
Rayanist ' Hahahahaha!!!! 😂
me: ok...
(reads username)
ah...
I’m on proud mode right now and this thing has kicked my ass 4 times 😭 I picked the shield so idk if that’ll help with the damage he gives me but man. My first boss fight in any kingdom hearts game and I’m already struggling like this. Embarrassing 💀
Edit: before my 6th try I found out you can go back to the previous room and save. Everytime I came back the enemies respawned so I grind for a bit. Beat all of them, go back and save, and repeat until I hit level 7 (was lvl 2). My strength + defense was increased and I had more potions to use and gained a new ability that helps improve how items work by 50%. So yeah I was pretty much set 💆🏾♀️only used 1 potion during the fight and finished the guy pretty easily.
In this game, picking the shield will let you learn defensive abilities earlier. I think. It’s been a while since I played this.
thanks for this!
I prefer the kh2 voice clips of roxas so much more
Same the attack quotes in KH2 just felt more powerful.
I remember the music starting during the cutscene, which i think hyped up the boss a bit more.
6:40
Excuse you! I'm a world class stealer guy!
the way it looks you in the face menacingly before it tries to hit you terrified the hell out of me
Best way to finish a boss
This boss is literally a giant with noodle physics, and also a giant Slender Nobody. Who here agrees he looks like a buff, giant Slender?
The opening is so similar to When Sora saw the Darkness
Chris Dj duality
This has to be the Nobody of whatever turned into Darkside.
That's what I think, too.
i have a high affinity for goofy floppy monsters like this! lol! its so cool to me!
0:26-0:27-0:50-0:51-0:52-1:12-1:15-1:17-1:28-1:42-1:45-1:46-3:09-1:41-1:44
Think of this boss fight as that interrogation scene from The Matrix.
I remember VIVIDLY when I played this when I was 7- Ah- good times úuù
the song tension rising has lived rent free in my head for almost 20 years
Hands down one of my favourite songs one of my favourite bosses
FIGHT!!!!😡🗝👈🏽
Am I the only one who wish Darksider was just as interesting and fun to fight as the Twilight Thorn. We only fight this guy once and in this fight you learn how to do reaction commands. He moves around the area like a horror film monster and he can literally flip the area if he feels like it. What can Darksider do I'm going to punch the ground very slowly so you can Dodge it easily. Oh my dark balls of energy you can just hit those back at me.
Roxas being in Sora station of awakening must be important.
I remember watching my older brother play this when we were younger and being honestly creeped out by this things movements, and when we got this for ps4 and I had my first playthrough, the memories flooded my mind and I was honestly still a little creeped out by it. (I’m now 21 and just liking back honestly just makes me feel uneasy.)
Game devs: nooo, you cant just kill this guy via fall dmge
This guy: hehehe necc go snapp
5:22 Roxas wins. FATALITY!!!
Let me guess you're back here to check to see if the organization 13 member was actually there
I always knew that, but some half-baked article said it and wanted to see some mouth breather comments.
0:00 - 1:48
Yeah, Sora had it easy in KH1
THIS is what Roxes had to put up with for his beginning. Lmao smh
Forget Lovecraft! Now we finally have interdimensional horrors created by Nomura-san!
Also in the Twilight Thorn reaction command, insert MGRR OST's Rules of Nature here:
Analysis is that much like that giant heartless Sora fights in his Station level, this is Roxas fighting his "anti" form for control of his "heart", but since Roxas is in Sora's Station, it'll affect Sora as well if he loses.
Whe he does win, the excess darkness that made up the anti-nobody form attempt to infect the tired Roxas. Naminé, also in connection to Sora's heart, sensed this and is able to help him through the social link feature they flesh out later
1:02 "Who the hell are you?"
"Oh well, NOW DIE!"
**Press Triangle**
wow riku u didn’t had be so rough to get roxas out of naminés (did I say that right?) room
Idk why but the way Roxas said hey you’re that pick pocket is funny to me😭🤣🤣
I have a theory about the black Thorn I believe it's Roxas memories of Xion that created this nobody my reasoning is since Lauriem could summon something similar to Strelizia with his memories of her why can't Roxas and it gives you a little hint as we someone the same height as Roxas staring at him or this could be Roxas staring at himself.
When I was little it took me hours to defeat this boss-
Anyone here know the move where he floats in midair and then shocks the grounds
I would start a new game just to fight the boss over and over and also listen to the music, Roxas is my favorite character
0:08 It’s Xemnas ?
Are you on beginner mode or something every time it hits me it takes like one third of my health
2:40 ayo throw it back shawty.😩😩💯💯💯
Aka THE BEST first boss in the entire series.
I wish we got to see more of this guy rather than fight darkside for the thousandth time
Remember playing this, it was fun, glad I only failed a few times.
That's messed up. Poor guy broke his neck XD
The Twilight Thorn
Race: Nobody
Element: Nothingness
Abilities: The Power of Nothingness, Combo Punch, Toss Up, Light Ball, Thorn Beam, One-Handed Sweep, Two-Handed Sweep, Luminescence, Ultimate Beam
Home: The Realm of Nothingness
Location: Twilight Town (The Dive to the Heart: The Station of Calling)
Minions: Dusk Nobodies, Creeper Nobodies
Alignment: Organization XIII
Status: Active
5:33 SpeeeeeEEEEeeeuueuueeeeen
It’s weird how they changed roxas voice when he’s falling down to the sphere. I liked his yell a lot better on the PS2 version, it sounded a lot more intense.
Even crazier when you know the new voice lines are from Ventus
"Twilight Thorn hit the ground too hard."
the one thing that really bugs me about the remix's is how they move the music to the begining of the game play instead of playing it over the scene like it originally did
That craziest part is, none of the Organization Members own this Nobody; not even the leader.
In the second 0:05 a hooded man appears
This guy built like the third Tartarus guardian in Persona 3
I too broke his neck to finish the fight.
god this thing was cool
Why did they redo Roxas' death cry?
0:08 - Roxas?
I used to be scared of this guy as a kid but now that I'm an adult he's kinda sexy
1:46 yeah Roxas is never walking again
Wish they would have made the boss fight a bit more of a challenge
His voice become different in this...
Yes, they gave him ventus voice in the ps3 version while in ps4 he has the original
Plus in PS2 version the boss music would have started already it didint start until the Gameplay started now they sure change alot of things
How tf did u just beat this thing playing like this
Roxas
The Link Of Kingdom Hearts
1:45 1:40
OH HELL YEAH ! THE GIANT NOBODY FIGHTS AGAINST ROXAS !!!
Makes sense
Anyone noticed hooded Roxas at the beginning?
It's probably Xemnas?
So who was twilight thorn
0:08
This nobody could be ephemer's nobody. If dark Inferno is his heartless, then it means he has been recompleted
1:01 1:11 1:35
how did i beat this shit when i was 8 years old
Why was this only used once?
Probably because the boss itself quite rare. I'm kinda surprised twilight thorn didn't appear again through out the story
Wait a minute this also happened to sora
Correct. Sora against Darkside, meanwhile Roxas against this guy.
Twilight thorn basically counterpart of Darkside
@@ridermanyt8029 I commented that 2 years ago😭
@@Novagtvr I know. I just kinda like read old comments
@@ridermanyt8029 lol
Kingdom hearts Boss fight!!
4:55
Who wants to fight twilight thron in real life?
Hell to the absolute NO!
Ventus?