This show is good for helping me forget the problems of the world, I always get a good laugh from Daily and his answers. I find them humorous and add value to the show.
Mr Daly quite literally was master of ceremonies in title and fact. He had decades of experience in radio and tv, and did his job masterfully, all the while making it look easy. A lot more that can be said of John's wit, charm and expertise, but suffice it to say he was a true master. It is unlikely the show would have been half of what it was, and/or half as enduring w/o him..
I've come to like and appreciate Eamonn Andrews. As far as I know, this is the last time I'll ever see him (without rewatching something I've already seen). What a shame--I'd so like to watch some more BBC WML's.
He handled the panel as to the manner born in his only episode as MC. If John had fallen under a subway train, Andrews would have made a good successor. A complete TV pro.
I find Andrews comments about covering the upcoming Kennedy visit to Ireland sobering. The Kennedy Administration at the time assumed this was the first of several presidential visits to Europe in an 8 year period. And as fate would have it - this visit was IT. Dina Merrill mentions that she thought the first guest was Allen Ludden. Ludden and Betty White were married in this period and did show up on the program within the month. Dina was on the right vibe - wrong episode.
As several other commenters have already noted, this episode marked Eamonn Andrews's last appearance in any capacity on the original (American) "What's My Line?" - and his only appearance as Mystery Guest on the show. This episode also marks Dina Merrill's first appearance as guest panelist on the show. She had already appeared on 7 August 1960 as Mystery Guest (wearing a very stylish, daringly low-cut gown). She appeared twice more as guest panelist: on 26 December 1965 (when the show was still considering its options after the death of Dorothy Kilgallen) and on 29 January 1967 (the famous "Twins Night" episode). "Tovarich" (which had opened at the Broadway Theatre on Monday, 18 March 1963 ) did, indeed, move to the Majestic Theatre the following week, beginning on Monday, 10 June 1963. It ran there until Saturday, 28 September 1963, then re-opened at the Winter Garden Theatre on Monday, 7 October 1963, and ran there through Saturday, 9 November 1963, for a highly respectable original Broadway run of 264 performances. By the time the show moved to the Winter Garden, however, Vivien Leigh (Jean-Pierre Aumont' co-star) had suffered a nervous breakdown, and she was replaced as Tatiana in the cast first Joan Copeland (who was her standby), and then, 2 weeks later, by Eva Gabor. I don't know whether Miss Leigh returned to the cast at all during that last month of the show's run - but I doubt it.....
19:45 After shaking hands with Gerda Schmidt, the second contestant, Tony Randall exclaims twice, "Firm Grip!". He continues to be impressed by Ms. Schmidt.
It's rare for Dorothy to pass, but she's never passed twice in a game til now. She also tore her mask off prematurely on the MG. A rare off-night for Dorothy.
Second contestant illustrates why this program was so hard to direct on live TV. The panel was amusing but wandered lost in space for 9 turns getting a bunch of yeses on the wrong subjects. Then suddenly Randall and Merrill get a flash of revelation and get it just in the nick of time.
Interesting sidenote to this......but the UK WML woulda aired its' last show of it's original run by this time. I'm unsure if it was known or not to him though yet, but it ended in 63. Neat little time capsule though this....as well as at least one of his earlier appearances.
Aumont and Pavan appeared separately on WML. Aumont was on in 1955, 1960, and 1974. Pavan was on in 1956. The two of them were also a "Mystery Guest Duo" in 1966 and 1972.
I wonder if the papers carried the Arlene saga all they through her hospitalization and the settlement with the family? It is good to hear John talk about Miss Arlene every week, as I know how much she was beloved. I wonder how much mail she got?
It would be interesting to see what, if anything, Dorothy wrote about the accident in her column. According to her biographer Lee Israel (thanks again, Lorna Badeo), Dorothy had a predilection for stories involving injury and illness in her column, and this was specifically cited as one of the tensions between her and Arlene, who felt that this sort of thing was nobody else's business. My feeling, without having checked, is that Dorothy might have made a quick mention of the accident but that's all. I would expect her injuries to have gotten a decent amount of press play generally, though-- especially in NY area papers.
I think Arlene and Bennett made it known to Dorothy that they did not appreciate the intramural activities of the show and themselves being strewn across the country's newspapers. I don't know to what extent Dorothy listened to them. I would guess, because they did retain affection for her, that she moderated anything that was inside business. But I would love to be elevated in my knowledge of all this!
What's My Line? Yes, I believe I had read that Dorothy made the mention, more as a news blip rather than an in-depth report, since there were news columns already dedicated to the report. Joe Postove And, you're right. After the the debacle with John, she learned her lesson. And there is a quote in Dorothy's bio where she basically stood up for the entire panel, noting that they were people of integrity, etc etc etc. No one else was safe, however lol But that was her job.
Lorna Badeo I'm just about finished with the bio-- reading the long epilogue now-- and unless I'm having a major memory lapse, did Israel ever go into the story about Dorothy and John's alienation after the Mike Wallace incident? Seems like an awfully important story to have left out of what feels like a pretty thorough bio, then again, I'm quite capable of major memory lapses.
Lorna Badeo Wow...Great Info, Lorna! Thanks! I have a bunch of Mike Wallace Shows, Lorna, was Dorothy a guest on his show? I'll check and see if I have it. In the meantime, what was the incident concerning Wallace?
The show is just never the same without her. I miss her more when she's absent than anyone else except John Daly, but then, he only missed about 4 shows in the entire run.
When John would contradict a contestants answer and say "I would say with Miss Smith's Permission"...I wonder if a contestant ever rose up in open rebellion and said, no, my answer stands?
At first I thought John was misremembering the title of Disney's Headless Horseman film, but it turns out "The Horse Without a Head" was a different, live action Disney movie. According to IMDB it only played on TV in the US but was released theatrically overseas.
The beloved French actor, Jean-Pierre Aumont, had quite a bit of an acting family. Let me see if I can name them all. This will be a fairly long post. His mother was Suzanne Cahen, an actress, and Cahen's uncle, Georges Berr, worked in the stage. His first marriage was with French actress Blanche Montel, which ended in divorce in 1940. His second marriage was with Dominican actress Maria Montez. She was known for taking very hot baths, which may have led to her death in 1951. He and Montez had a daughter named Tina. Her exotic beauty led to starring in a ton of Italian films during the 60's and 70's. She died in 2006. In 1956, he married Italian actress Marisa Pavan. They divorced but later remarried until his death in 2001. They had two children. Pavan also had a twin sister named Pier Angeli, who was also an actress. Tragically, she killed herself in 1971. Reportedly because she never got over the death of her former lover James Dean.
'It's nice to have one of our northern neighbors come down to us.' I know Daly could be over-unctuous, but how gracious WML was. Today it would be 'Hey, we gotta Canuck in the house!' accompanied by mindless whooping from the audience.
It only takes tone deaf Bennett 2 minutes to slight Arlene by saying that the girls are getting prettier and then making an insensitive comment about John driving, considering that Arlene had just gotten into a horrible accident. What a dolt!
One final question: Was this the first time that someone appeared as a contestant or Mystery Guest on WML? the week after having been a panelist on the show? I can think of a couple of times that a Mystery Guest has turned up as a panelist on the following week's show (e.g., Margaret Truman in the mid-1950s), but I can't come up with an example of a panelist who appeared as MG (or contestant) on the following week's show.
This must be one of the earliest episodes where Dorothy wears the new black blindfold mask (with pearls along the edge). I have only seen her wearing a tie-on mask on earlier eps, but I may be wrong. Btw wasn't the blindfold designer a guest once?
What's My Line? I think it was a relatively early episode from the 50s, and the contestant was described as a maker of sleep masks, if I'm remembering correctly. I guess that's what the panel's blindfolds originally were designed to be. I also think Steff2929again is correct about Dorothy wearing the pearl-edged black blindfold for the first time in this episode. She always seemed to prefer her own satin, tie-on masks, which may well have been the same kind of mask she herself wore at night to help her sleep. (According to Lee Israel's biography of her, Dorothy habitually wore a sleep mask to bed.) There was also one episode in which the panel wore very fancy blindfolds that had been designed by a famous designer (I can't remember her name) who had been featured as a mystery guess not long before. For whatever reason, I don't think they ever wore them again.
Steff2929again Several other panelists have worn the black mask with pearls along the edge before on earlier shows, but I don't recall seeing Dorothy wearing it until this episode.
druidbros The BBC were far worse than America, when it came to archiving and wiping programs. Unlike our version of WML, I do not think this version exists anymore, save for like one or two episodes. And that is a real pity, because I wonder if any British actors or British actresses from the 1950's that I know of appeared on this version.
***** I would agree, except that my understanding is that the (modern) BBC has done a much better job than they're being given credit for here. Bearing in mind that I'm FAR from an expert on BBC history, I do know that they've made huge swaths of their archives available for free over the internet, which is not something any U.S. network has ever done in any serious way. If it *were* true that the BBC locked up everything they didn't consider profitable, I'd be the first crying foul, but I don't think this is an accurate characterization at all. I'm not sure where this opinion stems from, but certainly nothing I'm aware of. Companies can't be expected to do everything, but the BBC has made sincere efforts to make their archives available.
On 06th Dec 1959 episode when Joan Collins was covering for Arlene, Bennett said that "the panel get prettier and prettier", Martin Gabel was on the panel then and you can see he wasn't pleased with this comment and can hear him murmur to Dorothy "Oh, I don't know". Now Bennett is doing it again, I wish Martin was on the panel again to see his reaction this time. Dina Merrill is definitely very beautiful and Bennett for sure meant no harm towards Arlene, but I still think that he is not supposed to do such comments.
Hmm. I bet Martin Gabel would not be pleased to see you say something like that about his friend. Please don't say bad things about people when you don't know for sure what they thought. You are not inside Martin Gabel's mind.
It was a nice gesture that the audience at the college graduation remembered Arlene. It would have been an even better gesture if they had remembered the woman who died and the others injured in the accident who suffered through no fault of their own. By this time we are seeing a society that thinks that misfortunes of celebrities are more significant than larger misfortunes suffered by others, even when they are caused by celebrities.
Arlene was hit by a non-celebrity vehicle that pushed her into the third vehicle...not CAUSED by Arlene...she was a victim as well and THANKFULLY survived it. Get your facts straight
hello :) i just want to say the atmosphere of when tony guessed wrong was a little confusing because nothing really happened other than john daly saying "very good" and the audience laughing when tony guessed wrong :/ it probably just confused dorothy just this time because she and no one else has ever taken off their blindfold thinking that the mystery guest was guessed correctly and if im wrong, then it hasnt happened often :) so what you said was obviously a hate comment and thats why you commented it, to hate, but thats just how what i think happened; she was confused by the atmosphere of john daly and the audience :))
Does anyone know whether John Daly or any of the WML regular panelists ever appeared on the English WML as either panelist or guest moderator (Manager {;-)
+Fred Major Bennet Cerf appeared on the English version of WML at one point in the 1950's. On the U.S. WML, mention was made the week ahead of time that he was going to the English show and a panel member was coming to the American show. I'm sorry to say that I cannot remember the year let alone the month of the episode on which this was mentioned. Perhaps someone else knows.
@@johnabbott9526 Barbara was obviously slated to be the UK equivalent of Arlene: warm, friendly, acute, glamorous and part of a showbiz couple as Bernard Braden's wife. They were Canadians who did radio comedies, some quite satirical for the 1950s.
@@kristabrewer9363 someone drove into Arlene causing her to skid over the wet road in the rain jumping the freeway concrete barrier and crashing into the car with 5 occupants.
@beachchaos1863 maybe.. but also she had alot going on in the 60s.. a very big reporter ect. Stress is such an enemy so to speak lol. She was the reporter who knew too much. I love her nonetheless. Still a very beautiful woman
Jean-Pierre Aumont? I know that part of What's My Line's cache' was to be uplifting, but I can imagine Mr. and Mrs. Beer and Underpants didn't have a clue and would have much rather seen Arthur Godfrey again than this. Too tony. Besides they had tony (Marked by an elegant or exclusive manner or quality) all over the stage. Sometimes I think (like Dorothy who was adamant about anything outside New York being the sticks) they were showing off.
True-- but I think they consciously played to a wide audience in the selection of guests. The producers knew that all types of people watched the show, and I think they did a great job of getting a wide enough range of mystery guests to draw all kinds of people to the show.
Agreed. But even the highly vaunted Lunt and Fontaine would be unknown to the vast majority of WML viewers( I think they were on once too, no?). I'm not saying they should dumb down, absolutely not! Gee, the reason my Mother let us stay up late on a school night was because she thought WML was good for us. And she was right. Perhaps you are right, that on occasion they would go obscurant, and we needed that. But wouldn't old Tennessee Ernie have been more fun?
Joe Postove I'm thinking they also needed to mix it up in order to at least occasionally stump the panel on the mystery guests. The panel had a MUCH higher batting average on the mystery guests than on the regular round-- they almost never failed to identify the guest before all the cards were flipped. If they'd always used celebrities who were in NYC because of a new movie premiere, it would probably have been far too easy. Just thinking out loud, so to speak.
After all these years of John's incessant long winded talks about NOTHING, I just NOW realized that John LOVES to hear himself talk!!! (he's always gotten on my nerves with those long winded talks, but after watching this episode, I just NOW realized that)
It's fairly clear enough to me that cerf and Daly don't really like each other. Cerf keeps throwing cornpone slights at Daly; and Daly bats them away with admirable grace or just flatly ignores them. Cerf detracts from the show. He must know someone higher up to be on so long.
John and Bennett were very close friends - teasing was just the way they had fun. Several times during the run of WML one or the other would say they'd gotten letters about their being angry with each other and they'd assure the audience they were just kidding. Bennett attended John's son's wedding, and John gave a eulogy at Bennett's funeral.
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This show is good for helping me forget the problems of the world, I always get a good laugh from Daily and his answers. I find them humorous and add value to the show.
Amen.
Tony Randall was one of those actors that never aged.
John Daly did an excellent job mitigating this show and I think that was the reason for it's longevity as well as the panel.
Mr Daly quite literally was master of ceremonies in title and fact. He had decades of experience in radio and tv, and did his job masterfully, all the while making it look easy. A lot more that can be said of John's wit, charm and expertise, but suffice it to say he was a true master. It is unlikely the show would have been half of what it was, and/or half as enduring w/o him..
I've come to like and appreciate Eamonn Andrews. As far as I know, this is the last time I'll ever see him (without rewatching something I've already seen). What a shame--I'd so like to watch some more BBC WML's.
He handled the panel as to the manner born in his only episode as MC. If John had fallen under a subway train, Andrews would have made a good successor. A complete TV pro.
In his youth, Mssr. Aumont was drop-dead gorgeous.
Bennett always had that Cheshire Cat grin when he thought he was on to it. Often, though he was not.
I look at it more asa weasley grin.
I think Dina Merrill is one of the most stunningly beautiful women of that era, that I have ever seen
She was also one of the wealthiest.
@@bluecamus5162probably the wealthiest!
*_EAMONN ANDREWS, MODERATOR OF 'WHAT'S MY LINE?' IN ENGLAND_*
*_POODLE CLIPPER_*
I find Andrews comments about covering the upcoming Kennedy visit to Ireland sobering. The Kennedy Administration at the time assumed this was the first of several presidential visits to Europe in an 8 year period. And as fate would have it - this visit was IT.
Dina Merrill mentions that she thought the first guest was Allen Ludden. Ludden and Betty White were married in this period and did show up on the program within the month. Dina was on the right vibe - wrong episode.
As several other commenters have already noted, this episode marked Eamonn Andrews's last appearance in any capacity on the original (American) "What's My Line?" - and his only appearance as Mystery Guest on the show.
This episode also marks Dina Merrill's first appearance as guest panelist on the show. She had already appeared on 7 August 1960 as Mystery Guest (wearing a very stylish, daringly low-cut gown). She appeared twice more as guest panelist: on 26 December 1965 (when the show was still considering its options after the death of Dorothy Kilgallen) and on 29 January 1967 (the famous "Twins Night" episode).
"Tovarich" (which had opened at the Broadway Theatre on Monday, 18 March 1963 ) did, indeed, move to the Majestic Theatre the following week, beginning on Monday, 10 June 1963. It ran there until Saturday, 28 September 1963, then re-opened at the Winter Garden Theatre on Monday, 7 October 1963, and ran there through Saturday, 9 November 1963, for a highly respectable original Broadway run of 264 performances.
By the time the show moved to the Winter Garden, however, Vivien Leigh (Jean-Pierre Aumont' co-star) had suffered a nervous breakdown, and she was replaced as Tatiana in the cast first Joan Copeland (who was her standby), and then, 2 weeks later, by Eva Gabor. I don't know whether Miss Leigh returned to the cast at all during that last month of the show's run - but I doubt it.....
19:45 After shaking hands with Gerda Schmidt, the second contestant, Tony Randall exclaims twice, "Firm Grip!". He continues to be impressed by Ms. Schmidt.
I assume that a certain amount of strength is necessary to hold the poodles (and other dogs) still.
Dina Merrill guessed the poodle clipper and was so pleased with herself. ☺️
Oh, she's a Pudelschoenheitsmeister. They've had a couple of those guests before.
It's rare for Dorothy to pass, but she's never passed twice in a game til now. She also tore her mask off prematurely on the MG. A rare off-night for Dorothy.
Second contestant illustrates why this program was so hard to direct on live TV. The panel was amusing but wandered lost in space for 9 turns getting a bunch of yeses on the wrong subjects. Then suddenly Randall and Merrill get a flash of revelation and get it just in the nick of time.
Also a good illustration of how silly it is that people think this was all rigged!
Give Bennett some of the credit ... He says "poodles" to Dina at 18:41.
@@neilmidkiff Yes, Cerf often could not resist the chance to barge in on someone else's answer! :(
Interesting sidenote to this......but the UK WML woulda aired its' last show of it's original run by this time. I'm unsure if it was known or not to him though yet, but it ended in 63. Neat little time capsule though this....as well as at least one of his earlier appearances.
Aumont and Pavan appeared separately on WML. Aumont was on in 1955, 1960, and 1974. Pavan was on in 1956. The two of them were also a "Mystery Guest Duo" in 1966 and 1972.
Gerda Schmidt is definitely one of the most attractive women ever on this show!
I wonder if the papers carried the Arlene saga all they through her hospitalization and the settlement with the family? It is good to hear John talk about Miss Arlene every week, as I know how much she was beloved. I wonder how much mail she got?
It would be interesting to see what, if anything, Dorothy wrote about the accident in her column. According to her biographer Lee Israel (thanks again, Lorna Badeo), Dorothy had a predilection for stories involving injury and illness in her column, and this was specifically cited as one of the tensions between her and Arlene, who felt that this sort of thing was nobody else's business. My feeling, without having checked, is that Dorothy might have made a quick mention of the accident but that's all. I would expect her injuries to have gotten a decent amount of press play generally, though-- especially in NY area papers.
I think Arlene and Bennett made it known to Dorothy that they did not appreciate the intramural activities of the show and themselves being strewn across the country's newspapers. I don't know to what extent Dorothy listened to them. I would guess, because they did retain affection for her, that she moderated anything that was inside business. But I would love to be elevated in my knowledge of all this!
What's My Line? Yes, I believe I had read that Dorothy made the mention, more as a news blip rather than an in-depth report, since there were news columns already dedicated to the report. Joe Postove And, you're right. After the the debacle with John, she learned her lesson. And there is a quote in Dorothy's bio where she basically stood up for the entire panel, noting that they were people of integrity, etc etc etc. No one else was safe, however lol But that was her job.
Lorna Badeo I'm just about finished with the bio-- reading the long epilogue now-- and unless I'm having a major memory lapse, did Israel ever go into the story about Dorothy and John's alienation after the Mike Wallace incident? Seems like an awfully important story to have left out of what feels like a pretty thorough bio, then again, I'm quite capable of major memory lapses.
Lorna Badeo Wow...Great Info, Lorna! Thanks! I have a bunch of Mike Wallace Shows, Lorna, was Dorothy a guest on his show? I'll check and see if I have it. In the meantime, what was the incident concerning Wallace?
Andrews's final appearance on American WML.
"..Automobile driver John Charles Daly"... not the best timing, Bennett
That's what I thought
Gerda Schmidt 🤪 Oh time machine, take me to 1963 Montreal please.
Tony Randall says "FIRM GRIP!" after shaking the Poodle Clipper's hand.
2nd week without Arlene Francis, because of her car accident.
The show is just never the same without her. I miss her more when she's absent than anyone else except John Daly, but then, he only missed about 4 shows in the entire run.
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When John would contradict a contestants answer and say "I would say with Miss Smith's Permission"...I wonder if a contestant ever rose up in open rebellion and said, no, my answer stands?
I've seen contestants say, "no, it IS so and so," and John will say "OK, you're the expert."
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I think that that happened when Charles Goren appeared as a contestant on the show a few years earlier.
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One of the most hilarious mystery guest segments ever (no spoilers.)
At first I thought John was misremembering the title of Disney's Headless Horseman film, but it turns out "The Horse Without a Head" was a different, live action Disney movie. According to IMDB it only played on TV in the US but was released theatrically overseas.
The beloved French actor, Jean-Pierre Aumont, had quite a bit of an acting family. Let me see if I can name them all. This will be a fairly long post.
His mother was Suzanne Cahen, an actress, and Cahen's uncle, Georges Berr, worked in the stage.
His first marriage was with French actress Blanche Montel, which ended in divorce in 1940.
His second marriage was with Dominican actress Maria Montez. She was known for taking very hot baths, which may have led to her death in 1951.
He and Montez had a daughter named Tina. Her exotic beauty led to starring in a ton of Italian films during the 60's and 70's. She died in 2006.
In 1956, he married Italian actress Marisa Pavan. They divorced but later remarried until his death in 2001. They had two children.
Pavan also had a twin sister named Pier Angeli, who was also an actress. Tragically, she killed herself in 1971. Reportedly because she never got over the death of her former lover James Dean.
When Eammon Andrews smiled......I screamed
History aside -- the next day the worst accident in the history of Boy Scouting occurred in the Kane County Utah desert.
Dina is SO, *PRETTY,!.!!*
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Some animals always good for a laugh. Poodles fall into that category.
They had to be serious people to endure that breed. Perhaps I am looking in the wrong places; but I have yet to encounter a laid-back friendly poodle.
My fav thing about this episode is Dorothy’s hair.
it truly is beautiful!! X)
'It's nice to have one of our northern neighbors come down to us.' I know Daly could be over-unctuous, but how gracious WML was. Today it would be 'Hey, we gotta Canuck in the house!' accompanied by mindless whooping from the audience.
It only takes tone deaf Bennett 2 minutes to slight Arlene by saying that the girls are getting prettier and then making an insensitive comment about John driving, considering that Arlene had just gotten into a horrible accident. What a dolt!
One final question: Was this the first time that someone appeared as a contestant or Mystery Guest on WML? the week after having been a panelist on the show? I can think of a couple of times that a Mystery Guest has turned up as a panelist on the following week's show (e.g., Margaret Truman in the mid-1950s), but I can't come up with an example of a panelist who appeared as MG (or contestant) on the following week's show.
this happened quite a few times, especially maybe 2 weeks later but I can't give specific examples off the top of my head
Ernie Kovacs was a panelist one week, then a mystery guest the following week.
Now where could I find 'Werewolf in a Girl's Dormitory'?
This must be one of the earliest episodes where Dorothy wears the new black blindfold mask (with pearls along the edge). I have only seen her wearing a tie-on mask on earlier eps, but I may be wrong. Btw wasn't the blindfold designer a guest once?
yes -- the blindfold designer did appear as a guest.
I don't recall having seen that episode yet-- is it from later in the run?
What's My Line?
I think it was a relatively early episode from the 50s, and the contestant was described as a maker of sleep masks, if I'm remembering correctly. I guess that's what the panel's blindfolds originally were designed to be. I also think Steff2929again is correct about Dorothy wearing the pearl-edged black blindfold for the first time in this episode. She always seemed to prefer her own satin, tie-on masks, which may well have been the same kind of mask she herself wore at night to help her sleep. (According to Lee Israel's biography of her, Dorothy habitually wore a sleep mask to bed.) There was also one episode in which the panel wore very fancy blindfolds that had been designed by a famous designer (I can't remember her name) who had been featured as a mystery guess not long before. For whatever reason, I don't think they ever wore them again.
Steff2929again Several other panelists have worn the black mask with pearls along the edge before on earlier shows, but I don't recall seeing Dorothy wearing it until this episode.
C'mon, John - Tony should have gotten a flat "NO" on the first question to the P.C., but you got so wrapped up in your speech, you forgot the game.
Here is a rare episode of the BBC What's My Line.
Whats my Line? BBC 1955
Dorothy looks so thin again here. But her hair - Yikes!
druidbros The BBC were far worse than America, when it came to archiving and wiping programs. Unlike our version of WML, I do not think this version exists anymore, save for like one or two episodes.
And that is a real pity, because I wonder if any British actors or British actresses from the 1950's that I know of appeared on this version.
I wish there were more episodes of the British version available, but it appears these were victims of the BBC's notorious tape-wiping policy.
Even if they still existed the BBC refuses to release programs unless they can make money so its likely we will never see any more of them.
druidbros As Gary (the person running this channel) would say in response to something like this: "Maddening!".
***** I would agree, except that my understanding is that the (modern) BBC has done a much better job than they're being given credit for here. Bearing in mind that I'm FAR from an expert on BBC history, I do know that they've made huge swaths of their archives available for free over the internet, which is not something any U.S. network has ever done in any serious way. If it *were* true that the BBC locked up everything they didn't consider profitable, I'd be the first crying foul, but I don't think this is an accurate characterization at all. I'm not sure where this opinion stems from, but certainly nothing I'm aware of. Companies can't be expected to do everything, but the BBC has made sincere efforts to make their archives available.
On 06th Dec 1959 episode when Joan Collins was covering for Arlene, Bennett said that "the panel get prettier and prettier", Martin Gabel was on the panel then and you can see he wasn't pleased with this comment and can hear him murmur to Dorothy "Oh, I don't know". Now Bennett is doing it again, I wish Martin was on the panel again to see his reaction this time. Dina Merrill is definitely very beautiful and Bennett for sure meant no harm towards Arlene, but I still think that he is not supposed to do such comments.
There were no boundaries with Cerf...on anything
Hmm. I bet Martin Gabel would not be pleased to see you say something like that about his friend. Please don't say bad things about people when you don't know for sure what they thought. You are not inside Martin Gabel's mind.
Bennett would never pass up an opportunity to admire a beautiful woman... or a man with broad shoulders.
It was a nice gesture that the audience at the college graduation remembered Arlene. It would have been an even better gesture if they had remembered the woman who died and the others injured in the accident who suffered through no fault of their own. By this time we are seeing a society that thinks that misfortunes of celebrities are more significant than larger misfortunes suffered by others, even when they are caused by celebrities.
Arlene was hit by a non-celebrity vehicle that pushed her into the third vehicle...not CAUSED by Arlene...she was a victim as well and THANKFULLY survived it. Get your facts straight
@@gailsirois7175 Contemporary journalistic sources support the facts as I, rather than you, have set them out.
@@preppysocks209 What are those contemporary sources?
Dorothy was just dying to rip her mask off, sheesh.
hello :)
i just want to say the atmosphere of when tony guessed wrong was a little confusing because nothing really happened other than john daly saying "very good" and the audience laughing when tony guessed wrong :/
it probably just confused dorothy just this time because she and no one else has ever taken off their blindfold thinking that the mystery guest was guessed correctly and if im wrong, then it hasnt happened often :)
so what you said was obviously a hate comment and thats why you commented it, to hate, but thats just how what i think happened; she was confused by the atmosphere of john daly and the audience :))
@@ihatey0utube you tell 'im, dudey !
Does anyone know whether John Daly or any of the WML regular panelists ever appeared on the English WML as either panelist or guest moderator (Manager {;-)
+Fred Major Bennet Cerf appeared on the English version of WML at one point in the 1950's. On the U.S. WML, mention was made the week ahead of time that he was going to the English show and a panel member was coming to the American show. I'm sorry to say that I cannot remember the year let alone the month of the episode on which this was mentioned. Perhaps someone else knows.
@@christinedorman3383 Arlene Francis and Barbara Kelly took each other's places on the BBC and CBS versions in 1957,
@@johnabbott9526 Barbara was obviously slated to be the UK equivalent of Arlene: warm, friendly, acute, glamorous and part of a showbiz couple as Bernard Braden's wife. They were Canadians who did radio comedies, some quite satirical for the 1950s.
How serious was Miss Francis' accident?
Carolyn Argabright she was hospitalized and a driver in the other car was killed.
A passenger in the other car, not the driver, was killed and the remaining passengers suffered serious injuries.
So what happened? whose fault was it?
@@kristabrewer9363 someone drove into Arlene causing her to skid over the wet road in the rain jumping the freeway concrete barrier and crashing into the car with 5 occupants.
15:01 Dorothy looks so old here wtf
Probably from her lifestyle.. and habits.
@@Tristan_SingsJazz Drugs or cigs?
@beachchaos1863 maybe.. but also she had alot going on in the 60s.. a very big reporter ect. Stress is such an enemy so to speak lol. She was the reporter who knew too much. I love her nonetheless. Still a very beautiful woman
Jean-Pierre Aumont? I know that part of What's My Line's cache' was to be uplifting, but I can imagine Mr. and Mrs. Beer and Underpants didn't have a clue and would have much rather seen Arthur Godfrey again than this. Too tony. Besides they had tony (Marked by an elegant or exclusive manner or quality) all over the stage. Sometimes I think (like Dorothy who was adamant about anything outside New York being the sticks) they were showing off.
True-- but I think they consciously played to a wide audience in the selection of guests. The producers knew that all types of people watched the show, and I think they did a great job of getting a wide enough range of mystery guests to draw all kinds of people to the show.
Agreed. But even the highly vaunted Lunt and Fontaine would be unknown to the vast majority of WML viewers( I think they were on once too, no?). I'm not saying they should dumb down, absolutely not! Gee, the reason my Mother let us stay up late on a school night was because she thought WML was good for us. And she was right. Perhaps you are right, that on occasion they would go obscurant, and we needed that. But wouldn't old Tennessee Ernie have been more fun?
Joe Postove I'm thinking they also needed to mix it up in order to at least occasionally stump the panel on the mystery guests. The panel had a MUCH higher batting average on the mystery guests than on the regular round-- they almost never failed to identify the guest before all the cards were flipped. If they'd always used celebrities who were in NYC because of a new movie premiere, it would probably have been far too easy. Just thinking out loud, so to speak.
"Just thinking out loud, so to speak" that's ok, I can hear you better hear in Israel over the rocket!
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Joe Postove Yikes-- is that where you are? Stay safe!!!
After all these years of John's incessant long winded talks about NOTHING, I just NOW realized that John LOVES to hear himself talk!!! (he's always gotten on my nerves with those long winded talks, but after watching this episode, I just NOW realized that)
you might have the world's record for slow-wittedness...
It's fairly clear enough to me that cerf and Daly don't really like each other. Cerf keeps throwing cornpone slights at Daly; and Daly bats them away with admirable grace or just flatly ignores them.
Cerf detracts from the show. He must know someone higher up to be on so long.
How many episodes have you watched? Watch 500 and you will probably be convinced that they loved each other.
John and Bennett were very close friends - teasing was just the way they had fun. Several times during the run of WML one or the other would say they'd gotten letters about their being angry with each other and they'd assure the audience they were just kidding. Bennett attended John's son's wedding, and John gave a eulogy at Bennett's funeral.