I got the Match Champion back in 2016 because it is a modern day, high performance version of the Security Six. I gave my Match Champion an extra trigger job (all the way down to 3000 grit) and installed the Wolff Spring Kit for hammer and trigger springs. The SA pull is 2 lbs and the DA pull is 6 to 7 pounds and is smooth as a Python. This is gun Ruger should of made, but even at factory stock condition it is a truly great revolver. I also own a 6" version of the S&W 686. I agree with all of your points made about each revolver. You can't go wrong with either one....they are different, but outstanding at the same time and in their own way.
I ended up buying a Match Champion a couple of years back because it just feels better in my hand, making the grip angle perfect for me. A very natural pointing revolver with a lot of great features - and it's built like a freakin' tank.
I love my 686. I haven’t shot the match champion. I have 2 security sixes. This revolver looks like a modern version of the sixes over the GP100. Great video as always.
Many thanks for watching. The GP 100 is an outstanding revolver. I appreciate you taking the time to comment and hope you will subscribe to the channel and share it with friends and family.
I have (6) 357 Revolvers and I like them all. Ruger Security Six Blued 6IN, Ruger GP100 SS 4.2IN, Ruger Redhawk SS 5.5IN, Colt Python SS 4.25IN, S&W 686 SS 4.25IN, and S&W 66 SS 4.25IN.
Sir, do you have excellent tastes in high-quality revolvers. I’m envious of your collection! I appreciate you watching in commenting. If you haven’t already, I hope you will consider subscribing to the channel and sharing it with friends and family. Stay safe.
Thank you so much for watching and commenting. I agree with you. Both are fine revolvers. If you haven’t already, I hope you will subscribe to the channel and share it with friends and family.
Thanks for your concern. The wood isn't at all course. Plus all my guns are shooters, complete with holster wear and dings / scratches from lots of training and practice. All the best and stay safe.
I thought the Match Champion was enhanced through Rugers Custom Shop, but you keep referring to it as a stock production gun? And of course the 686 needed some trigger work obviously
Very true. The Match Champion trigger was good but nothing exceptional. The trigger on my Model 19-4 crushes the Match Champion. That being said, I do love the Ruger Match Champion!
Very nice pair of revolvers, I've always struggled with which one I'd like when I can afford to pull the trigger(pun intended), but now Ruger has the Redhawk in 357. Any thoughts if you could only have one?
I prefer Smiths. I like the fact that they are Forged while the Rugers are cast. Rugers have to be made more beefy to be as strong as S&W’s. Some people will say Rugers are tougher due to being beefier but this is not true. Do your own research on this particular topic before pulling the trigger. It is a big deal to me - others it might not be.
Ken, if I could have only one I would say 686. However the only reason I say that is I've got year on the SW 686 and only had the Match Champion for a few weeks. If you plan to compete with the revolver then also look at the 686 SSR ... it's a better compassion to the Match Champion being a production gun made for competition.
(ken mason - I have had mine 2 yeas and have put 1000 rounds of 357 through it. I never touched the lock and never had problems with it. I’ve heard stories of people’s locks being engaged due to recoil but I have never seen it on film so it could be hearsay.)Most people don’t like it for the looks of it. While we are on the topic of looks and new models - another internet discussion is barrel alignment - since they are no longer pinned - the ridges on top of the barrel on some guns do not line up evenly even though they are in spec. I bought mine from buds without inspecting it before hand and got lucky. If this is something that would grind your gears - buy it in person.
Where can you get a better deal than 900$? what retailer if you could? I can't find it for cheaper than a 1000$. At a pawn shop or a website, which website?
Bought mine at a local shop and the gun was "used"... perhaps the owner had fired 30 rounds through it because it wasn;'t even broken in! I believe I paid 600-700 for it.
Every time you put one of them down, and I hear those beautiful revolvers scrape against that wood, I cringe. Then I wonder, why don't you have a pad, cloth, or some other soft surface to lay them on instead of againt that hard surface? Also, hard to hear and follow you over the blasting of that blower, or whatever that very loud, distracting noise is in the background.
Sorry about the background noise . I appreciate that feedback. As far as a pad or a cloth ... all my firearms are tools and are used as such. I respect the fact that some people prefer to treat their handguns differently. In fact I know several folks who have expensive handguns and never shoot them. The guns sit in the safe and are taken out, placed on a soft cloth and wiped down with a cleaning cloth before going back in the safe. As I said my firearms are tools not presentation pieces. Thanks for commenting and for the feedback about the background noise. All the best and stay safe.
I'm sure the S&M is a fairly good firearm but because of the politics of smith and wesson I will never buy one of their firearms. During the Clinton administration S&M supported all of his gun control laws. I don't know why but that along with S&M knowingly selling faulty model 686's sealed the deal for me.
I hear you, that was before Congress enacted, a law, preventing frivolous, multimillion dollar, lawsuits designed to put the firearms manufacturers out of business. Like you, I was not happy about what Smith and Wesson did during the Clinton administration. However, for me, they have re-established their credibility and, I’ve had great success with their products. I do appreciate you taking the time to comment and hope you will subscribe to the channel and share it with friends and family.
Apologize, I didn't notice that before but listening to it again, I see what you mean. Thanks for the feedback, we'll try to do a better job in the next one.
@@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC I've heard more background murmur from my Continental radials driving a Cadillac at 70 miles an hour down the freeway. BIG DEAL. The little hum didn't ruin anything for me. Thank you for taking the time and energy to do this video that I enjoyed very much and that didn't cost me a single cent to be entertained by except the electricity to power this computer. What will they think to bellyache about next?
I prefer the Ruger. You might consider disabling your HVAC during your recordings. When that blower kicked on, it was more powerful than your voice. Makes for a really bad background track when you're talking.
Sir, I appreciate the feedback. This is the kind of thing that I should’ve caught, but failed too. Thank you for taking the time to remind us to be mindful of the sound conditions. I appreciate you watching. If you haven’t already, I hope you will consider subscribing to the channel, sharing it with friends and family, as well as anyone who might be interested in the content we provide. Stay safe.
👍 I like them both but purchased a 686+ 3” barrel because of the seven shots ,and the shorter barrel and rounded grip butt makes it easier to conceal. Excellent revolver!
Trigger pull is 10 lbs but I don't have a way to measure it... Why guess? Your almost assuredly wrong. Very hard to gauge with your finger even with a lot of experience
Thanks for your input. You raise fair point. My videos are about my perspective... and this certainly has limits. If folks want to know the specific trigger weight, they can of course go to the Ruger website and get the exact weight of the DA pull. I appreciate you raising this issue. All the bets!
A number of years ago, I walked into a gun store with the intention of buying a S&W 686. I walked out of the store with a Ruger GP-100 Match Champion. It really is that awesome.
I wish S&W would pay me to say anything. Unfortunately, no one wants to pay me so I can only share my humble opinion. Thanks for commenting and watching!
Tens of thousands of rounds would imagine. These revolvers are incredibly durable. Most people will never shoot them enough to wear them out or be able to afford that much ammunition! Thank you for watching and commenting. I hope you will consider subscribing to the channel and sharing it with friends and family.
At least you had a pre-lock otherwise, I'll take the Ruger
I got the Match Champion back in 2016 because it is a modern day, high performance version of the Security Six. I gave my Match Champion an extra trigger job (all the way down to 3000 grit) and installed the Wolff Spring Kit for hammer and trigger springs. The SA pull is 2 lbs and the DA pull is 6 to 7 pounds and is smooth as a Python. This is gun Ruger should of made, but even at factory stock condition it is a truly great revolver. I also own a 6" version of the S&W 686. I agree with all of your points made about each revolver. You can't go wrong with either one....they are different, but outstanding at the same time and in their own way.
Which was more accurate. Thank you
@@Mark-pp2ty Based off my experience and skill level, my Ruger Match Champion is more accurate. Hope this helps!
I ended up buying a Match Champion a couple of years back because it just feels better in my hand, making the grip angle perfect for me. A very natural pointing revolver with a lot of great features - and it's built like a freakin' tank.
Agree with all you said. It's a winner
@@quicktoevil Agree with you. Balanced, good trigger and accurate.
Great comparison Brother - looking forward to the Range Results! 👍 I have the "regular" GP 100s in both 357 and 22, (6" Stainless) and I love them!
Great revolvers for sure!
686 is gorgeous!
So is the GP100 MC!
Thanks for watching. 686 is very elegant for sure.
I love my 686. I haven’t shot the match champion. I have 2 security sixes. This revolver looks like a modern version of the sixes over the GP100. Great video as always.
Thank you sir. The Match Champion is an upgrade over the stock GP 100. Both these pistols are great fun to shoot.
My GP100 has outlasted many revolvers and is relentlessly on point. It is my go to bush gun.
Many thanks for watching. The GP 100 is an outstanding revolver.
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My 686-4 is one of a handful that I will never, Ever sell.
Agree with you!
I have (6) 357 Revolvers and I like them all. Ruger Security Six Blued 6IN, Ruger GP100 SS 4.2IN, Ruger Redhawk SS 5.5IN, Colt Python SS 4.25IN, S&W 686 SS 4.25IN, and S&W 66 SS 4.25IN.
Sir, do you have excellent tastes in high-quality revolvers. I’m envious of your collection!
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Another great upload of two great firearms, Thank you.
I agree, really like them both
Nice review of the two revolvers.I love revolvers to.Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching
Hello Mr Wish, wonderful viewpoints. Very nice. Thumbs up. James
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I've owned both-they are both great. I still have the 686 because it is a 7 shot.
Agree both are winners.
4 years later. $1100 and the barrel has a full bottom lug. Rear sight is back to adjustable as well. Still a great revolver!
I hear you revolvers are great!
Ruger's website description of the GP 100 Match Champion says the internals was polished.
Perhaps that what it says but it's gritty. Better than must stock guns but mine doesn't feel not highly polished.
Both are excellent revolvers, however, the Ruger design is appreciably more robust (consider the top strap and the no side plate design).
Thank you so much for watching and commenting. I agree with you. Both are fine revolvers.
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Awesome comparison vid enjoyed it.
I like the Ruger, but the 686 is classic pre-1998 S&W.
Yes, sir, 686 is nice!
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Love revolvers. #1.
Me too!
Man!!GET A PAD OR Towel on the wood. Sliding them around like there toys. The wood looks coarse.
Thanks for your concern. The wood isn't at all course. Plus all my guns are shooters, complete with holster wear and dings / scratches from lots of training and practice. All the best and stay safe.
good answer. both are fine guns. as you said, whichever one that you can hit the target with.
Right on. Both are nice and I would feel well protected by either of these fine revolvers
Real nices guns !!!!!
Agree hard to beat these two!
Iv owned a couple 686’s and 686 + never owned a ruger revolver iv heard mostly good things. Great video solid comparison.
Love both these revolvers!
686 all day - I might be a S&W fan boy!
Been shooting the 686 for years. Love it
I thought the Match Champion was enhanced through Rugers Custom Shop, but you keep referring to it as a stock production gun? And of course the 686 needed some trigger work obviously
Very true. The Match Champion trigger was good but nothing exceptional. The trigger on my Model 19-4 crushes the Match Champion. That being said, I do love the Ruger Match Champion!
Very nice pair of revolvers, I've always struggled with which one I'd like when I can afford to pull the trigger(pun intended), but now Ruger has the Redhawk in 357. Any thoughts if you could only have one?
I prefer Smiths. I like the fact that they are Forged while the Rugers are cast. Rugers have to be made more beefy to be as strong as S&W’s. Some people will say Rugers are tougher due to being beefier but this is not true. Do your own research on this particular topic before pulling the trigger. It is a big deal to me - others it might not be.
@@ramsrepublic8477 thanks, I've heard that about Smiths before, as strong while being less bulky.
Ken, if I could have only one I would say 686. However the only reason I say that is I've got year on the SW 686 and only had the Match Champion for a few weeks. If you plan to compete with the revolver then also look at the 686 SSR ... it's a better compassion to the Match Champion being a production gun made for competition.
@@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC Would a Smith with the lock still be a good choice or would you go with a pre lock version?
(ken mason - I have had mine 2 yeas and have put 1000 rounds of 357 through it. I never touched the lock and never had problems with it. I’ve heard stories of people’s locks being engaged due to recoil but I have never seen it on film so it could be hearsay.)Most people don’t like it for the looks of it. While we are on the topic of looks and new models - another internet discussion is barrel alignment - since they are no longer pinned - the ridges on top of the barrel on some guns do not line up evenly even though they are in spec. I bought mine from buds without inspecting it before hand and got lucky. If this is something that would grind your gears - buy it in person.
两个品牌的左轮，看过很多款型，除了握把除外（无论木制还是工业塑料都一样），从枪身钢材料上看，总感觉鲁格的用料好些！鲁格的钢料显得更有光泽也更温润有质感，史密斯维森的就显得黯淡，少点质感！
感谢您的评论。 鲁格肯定有一些质量。 然而，对我来说最重要的是扳机的流畅性，这在 S&W 686 上更为优越。你是否厌倦了这两款左轮手枪的射程？ 感谢收看我的频道，希望你订阅和观看其他视频。 向您和您的家人致以最诚挚的问候……保持安全。
Where can you get a better deal than 900$? what retailer if you could? I can't find it for cheaper than a 1000$. At a pawn shop or a website, which website?
Bought mine at a local shop and the gun was "used"... perhaps the owner had fired 30 rounds through it because it wasn;'t even broken in! I believe I paid 600-700 for it.
@@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC ah ok it seems like all the best revolver deals are local at pawn shops and stores that dont have websites of inventory
Every time you put one of them down, and I hear those beautiful revolvers scrape against that wood, I cringe. Then I wonder, why don't you have a pad, cloth, or some other soft surface to lay them on instead of againt that hard surface?
Also, hard to hear and follow you over the blasting of that blower, or whatever that very loud, distracting noise is in the background.
Sorry about the background noise . I appreciate that feedback.
As far as a pad or a cloth ... all my firearms are tools and are used as such.
I respect the fact that some people prefer to treat their handguns differently. In fact I know several folks who have expensive handguns and never shoot them. The guns sit in the safe and are taken out, placed on a soft cloth and wiped down with a cleaning cloth before going back in the safe.
As I said my firearms are tools not presentation pieces.
Thanks for commenting and for the feedback about the background noise.
All the best and stay safe.
I'm sure the S&M is a fairly good firearm but because of the politics of smith and wesson I will never buy one of their firearms. During the Clinton administration S&M supported all of his gun control laws. I don't know why but that along with S&M knowingly selling faulty model 686's sealed the deal for me.
I hear you, that was before Congress enacted, a law, preventing frivolous, multimillion dollar, lawsuits designed to put the firearms manufacturers out of business. Like you, I was not happy about what Smith and Wesson did during the Clinton administration. However, for me, they have re-established their credibility and, I’ve had great success with their products.
I do appreciate you taking the time to comment and hope you will subscribe to the channel and share it with friends and family.
The background noise at five minutes kind of ruined this.
Apologize, I didn't notice that before but listening to it again, I see what you mean. Thanks for the feedback, we'll try to do a better job in the next one.
@@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC I've heard more background murmur from my Continental radials driving a Cadillac at 70 miles an hour down the freeway. BIG DEAL. The little hum didn't ruin anything for me. Thank you for taking the time and energy to do this video that I enjoyed very much and that didn't cost me a single cent to be entertained by except the electricity to power this computer. What will they think to bellyache about next?
I have 686 no dash 4 inch ruger doesn't even come close to it
I happen to like both revolvers. Thanks for commenting.
Anyone who says there is no comparison is a home gunner. Both are great guns. Don’t be a cheerleader
I prefer the Ruger.
You might consider disabling your HVAC during your recordings. When that blower kicked on, it was more powerful than your voice. Makes for a really bad background track when you're talking.
Sir, I appreciate the feedback. This is the kind of thing that I should’ve caught, but failed too. Thank you for taking the time to remind us to be mindful of the sound conditions.
I appreciate you watching. If you haven’t already, I hope you will consider subscribing to the channel, sharing it with friends and family, as well as anyone who might be interested in the content we provide. Stay safe.
👍 I like them both but purchased a 686+ 3” barrel because of the seven shots ,and the shorter barrel and rounded grip butt makes it easier to conceal. Excellent revolver!
Yes sir! Love the 686. Hope you'll subscribe to the channel.
Trigger pull is 10 lbs but I don't have a way to measure it... Why guess? Your almost assuredly wrong. Very hard to gauge with your finger even with a lot of experience
Thanks for your input. You raise fair point. My videos are about my perspective... and this certainly has limits. If folks want to know the specific trigger weight, they can of course go to the Ruger website and get the exact weight of the DA pull. I appreciate you raising this issue. All the bets!
Both great revolvers. Hard choice to choose.... Really
I agree!
Love that 357 mag round.
I do too. Lots of flexibility from hot to mild target loads.
I have Smiths and Rugers. The Rugers are just tanks. They’re my preference
Rugers are solid pistols for sure!
Awesome compare and contrast. Thanks! Now you need to get your hands on the Colt King Cobra and do another comparison video!
😎👍🏻🇺🇸💥
I'd love to get my hands of the King Cobra !
milehighed5280 I have one ( king cobra ), great little shooter, but you won’t want to shoot a lot of magnums through it. It’s just a little too light.
A number of years ago, I walked into a gun store with the intention of buying a S&W 686. I walked out of the store with a Ruger GP-100 Match Champion. It really is that awesome.
Thank you for commenting. I think both these revolvers are truly winners in my book. I appreciate you watching and hope you will subscribe.
I enjoyed the noise in the background I don't know about the review I couldn't hear it very well.
Sorry about that... the darned burner went on as I was shooting the video and I didn't think it would be that obnoxious. I appreciate you commenting.
How much did Smith & Wesson pay you to tone the negative down???
I wish S&W would pay me to say anything. Unfortunately, no one wants to pay me so I can only share my humble opinion. Thanks for commenting and watching!
@@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC classy reply
Какой ресурс у револьвера ругер?
Спасибо.
Tens of thousands of rounds would imagine. These revolvers are incredibly durable. Most people will never shoot them enough to wear them out or be able to afford that much ammunition! Thank you for watching and commenting. I hope you will consider subscribing to the channel and sharing it with friends and family.