Thank you for watching! If you want to support my channel you can do so at buymeacoffee.com/indiascarlett Is there any topic you would like to see a video about? If you want to find out more about Natacha and Rudy, I'd recommend reading 'Madame Valentino' by Michael Morris and 'Dark Lover' by Emily W. Leider, both are available for free on archive.org.
Thank you for producing the great videos you do ❤ The quality is outstanding! In a similar vein Pola Negri, or Alla Nazimova would be excellent subjects 🥰
What a fascinating life and woman! Thank you for this lovely and deeply researched video. Rambova has been slightingly portrayed most of the time, especially in relation to Valentino; great to know what a complex, accomplished, and well-rounded person she was. And her designs are beautiful.
This is an absolutely magnificent biography of one of the most important early silent movie set/costume designers in Natahca Rambova. I have long been a Valentino fan, but never really knew much about Natacha. You put a lot of work into this video and it's much appreciated. Thank you so very much for uploading this video and for your research. Bravo to you💌💌💌
India, you are one of the best. Not only do you have a wonderful narrative voice, but you also take great care when presenting your videos to be factual and thorough. I've been a great admirer of Natacha's since I was a small child, and more recently having read the excellent book "Madame Valentino" which restores the dignity of her real love with Rudy, and her very real talents. Definitely a Renaissance Woman for all our times.
She was a fascinating and clever woman. An interesting insight into her life and later her life with Rudy. I think she was painted in a bad light by those in Hollywood. She wanted the best for Rudy and fought for him and tried to protect him from the greedy profiteers in the film industry. Just as any wife worth her salt would do. I think she loved him very much. It is so sad that their marriage ended the way it did. Had things been different I think he would possibly have gone on to direct films and she would have been at his side supporting him. Thank you I really enjoyed this.
Natacha's mother's fourth marriage was to my friend's grandfather Richard Hudnutt. Hudnutt manufactured cosmetics and perfume. In 1969 he was tge oldest living graduate of Princeton. My friend was Stephen Hudnutt Lutz.
Hepburn was waaay to egotistical, self centured to have a kid. Even her book is "Me". Boring , boring, nothing to offer another person. NO ONE is full time interesting . She seemed oblivious to others.
The World is grateful that women who don't like children be mothers. Be with their own careers, be bold but don't create misery in the lives of other people.
Thank you for your informative, well produced documentary. I hope that in your future videos you will slow your narration; as it stands here, the solidly factual post seems hurriedly read. Regardless of my criticism, thank you very much for your efforts.
Myrna Loy was in the Kosloff dance company/taking lessons when Kosloff worked in Hollywood. Ms Loy was fascinated with Rambova, she thought her the most beautiful woman she'd ever seen, long thick golden brown hair worn in braids wrapped around her head & unusual golden eyes. (Nazimova was Nancy Reagans godmother!) A wonderful book if you can find it Is Madam Valentino
@@indiascarlett Nancy Davis (later Reagan) was a small time actress never quite a star, but her Mother, Edith Luckett was also an stage actress from the 1900s into 1920s, so Nancy had some doors opened for her, through her Mom's connections, I guess we would call Nancy a 'Nepo' baby! Ha ha Anyway the Mom & Nazimova were great friends. Edith lived to be 99, evidently she had a very long interesting life. Yes, the book is wonderful with so many great pictures. Did you know Rudy also recorded music? He sang & allowing for differences in singing - the 1920 style to our era- he was quite good. Sad he died so so young over what could be treated so easily today. Obviously I'm a huge early Hollywood /silent era aficionado-fan
@@poorthing Thank you for sharing all this "new to me" information! I too have become a massive fan of silent films and the 1920s thanks to my love for Rudolph Valentino! ❤
Thankyou for this sensational biogaphy!! I've heard of Natasha, but knew little about her except, she was with Valentino. She was so multi-talented and very intelligent. She sure didn't let grass grow under her feet. She was so adventurous, more than any Actress/dancer, I've heard of. I love the fact that she had compassion for animals, and hated if they were mistreated. My uncle saw a man beating his dog, and he got out of his car and beat him with the chain, he used on the poor dog, and took the dog away from him, many years ago. She was always working on educational projects in her later years, till her death. She's one of the most facinating, people I have learned about. I love to watch old movies. RIP Natasha. 🙏🩰🌹🌹💐💐
Thank you so much for telling us about this fascinating woman. I knew of Valentino and his early death, but nothing else of his life. Fascinating and so well done!Again, thank you so much!
This was quite informative and I was quite impressed with what you have done with everything you collected!! Thank you for all the work and time you put into this.
This isn't the kind of video TH-cam typically suggests for me but I watched it because I have viewed the art collections of Natacha and her mother but very little, and your video would suggest, inaccurate information was given about them. Thank you, I cannot remember when I last enjoyed a video on TH-cam so much.
Thank you so much! If you haven't already I'd recommend checking out 'Madam Valentino: The many lives of Natacha Rambova' by Michael Morris, it's a great book.
This woman is very intelligent apparently. She was artistic and intelligent and beautiful. That sounds like a winning combination, but I’m impressed with her intelligence that’s very nice to know.
India your reporting and narration is charming. Will you do a profile on actress Linda Christian. She was discovered by Errol Flynn and married to Tyrone Power.
Yip skip!! Was so excited to see a new video! Well done. Thank you! 🦖I gots the FOMO! Psh only being married once and punched a man in the nose even less times than that. I wonder if it’s as fun as it seems. 💚Thank you!🎉🎉
Valentino's manager said Natacha was the only woman who was immune from Valentinos' charm." Strange marriage a bit like Duke of Windsor and Wallis Simpson.
She was driven by a nervous energy. She couldn't stop and it's probably just as well she did not have children. It's sad though. Who knows what kind of mother she would have been. She might have thrown herself into motherhood with the same vigor that she devoted to her careers and succeeded greatly.
It seems like she suffered many traumas throughout her young life. Her coping mechanism was probably just closing herself off to the world as she did. This may have impacted and forever changed her views about life. Who knows if she experienced healing of these traumas.
My research predominately comes from the book Madame Valentino by Michael Morris and his follow up to it, called Beyond Valentino. Also Emily Leider's biography of Rudy, Dark Lover, and Natacha's own book which is available on Archive.org. I also used some books on Old Hollywood costumes to find out more about Natacha's work.
@@indiascarlett Hi .... I knew Michael pretty well. I have read his book, Madam Valentino several times, as well as Beyond Valentino (which I realize is controversial, but it holds much of the info you had in the video). However, there are some details you had in the video which are in neither book. I would ask what sources you used to find out things like the detail of the double fracture of her left leg as being the day Alvaro asked her for the annulment. I find it odd Natacha was so forgiving, especially since Alvaro put down on his request for the annulment that his reason was that Natacha never intended to have children. Same reason that Rudy used. Natacha was never banned by George Ullman from being on Rudy's movie set for any film or by anyone else contractually. She lost her temper and caused that herself. George Ullman did not hire the private detective to watch Natacha, Beltran Masses told Ullman to tell Rudy to hire him, and so Rudy did that. I have to wonder why Natacha and Alvaro then hosted Beltran Masses at their home, as pictured in your video, years later. I think Natacha never knew he was behind it all. So, I would like to know your sources for your video. In addition, I would ask why your photos do not correspond with your narration. I mean, it is just all over the place. As I posted elsewhere in this comment section, I am one of Natacha's cousins and I have done extensive research into her life. The book, Madam Valentino is old, as is Dark Lover. There have been several discoveries made about Natacha and Rudy since its publication. This video you made is new. I'd like to see the correct information used. My three cents. However, I did NOT find your narration to be too fast. I understood you perfectly. My website is Darkmum Dearest if you would like to visit for more info on Rudy and Natacha..
This was beautifully done. I’m on the other side of the camp on Natasha. As a Spanish POC and avid Rudy fan, I was never really satisfied with the impressions I’ve always been given about her from a variety of writings. I was wrong. Though many consider her fascinating, I see her as pretty much the basic person of high privilege that at least does something for the sake of the arts, as long as it benefitted her. That’s the ultimate show of privilege. She made a lot of horribly racist comments to publications and was quite deceptive about not actually wanting children in both marriages, which is fine as I too have made that choice in my own life, but she wasn’t upfront about that due to her own need to benefit off of others. There were many examples of how she didn’t hesitate to piggyback off of Rudy’s endeavors for her own advancement and causing great strife if she wasn’t included professionally. That’s the very definition of opportunistic. This is just my two cents from a POC that knows good and well that someone that uses disparaging language about people of color, even when married to a person of color, is still racist. That era was definitely that era, but keeping people of color “in there place” was still very much a conscious practice. This was fascinating and very well done! For me, she simply wasn’t. She was pretty petty and basic as all people with privilege are that have deep seeded issues with self-confidence that only have their eye on the prize. I was hoping she was more of a feminist, not just another selfish opportunist masquerading as strong and spiritual.
People demonize her like crazy. She gets called every name in the book because people acted like she was some sort of She Wolf who dominated valentino. She encouraged and helped his aesthetic. She was definitely a force for him yes she goes down forgotten or some sort of females Svengali she definitely was a little callous in her relationship with him but she deserves her do credit
I agree, I think a lot of the hatred towards her is a continuation of the criticism in the press at the time. I also wonder if she got a lot of hate because other women were jealous she was married to Valentino
@@indiascarlett The hate can also stem from the fact that she ultimately betrayed him, cheating on him with a cameraman instead of working through their differences. I get that she was an ambitious and independent-minded woman. But Rudy loved her, worshipped her, wrote a poem for her. And in the end, it was not enough for her to remain loyal to him and their marriage. He was a traditional Southern Italian man with Old World values and he wanted children. She was a more worldly and liberal woman. And I'm reminded of a conversation she had with her mother that she was to make sure that she didn't have any children. They were definitely from two different worlds. I think Rudy did his best to love her like she had never been loved before. But she had too many issues. Perhaps she was simply not meant to be married. She did later express her regrets on her behavior in an interview a few years after Valentino passed. She admitted to being quite proud and stubborn.
This is the most in depth study on Natasha that I've come across. Very good, but I came across looking into this woman from an entirely different direction which was Alexadre Piankoff and I'm wondering if the story is finished. One thing missing from other sources is that Natasha learned of the Rodoloph Valinento's death by telegram and spent three days locked in her room. Not sure if that is true and your research might be better than the skimpy things I've read. Meanwhile Natasha while working for the Bollingen Foundation edited four works by Piankoff and actually contributed a chapter to one of them, "MYTHOLOGICAL PAPYRI" published in 1957 . Based on your piece here I might wonder if she did not help Piankoff get rights to decipher the many inscriptions and art work of the chinise puzzle box like shrine that held King Tut-Ankh-Amon's sarcophagus. it would of been attack from two directions as Piankoff had studied under Kurt Sethe, the one who was the go to expert for the decipherment of the Pyramid Text after he took control of the project after Maspero who discovered the Tomb of Unas. Howard Carter discovered the boy king's tomb in 1922, but decipherment of the shrine box did not see it's first publication until Piankoff published the work in 1955 in a book called "THE SHRINES OF TUT-ANKH-AMON, Texts Translated with Introduction by Alexandre Piankoff. Edited by N. Rambova". A year earlier they brought to publication "THE TOMB OF RAMSES THE IV", both important because both contained the 19th and 20th Dynasty myth called "The book of the Heavenly Cow" also known as "The Destruction of Mankind" from which elements of the Myth are easily detectable in the Pyramid Text of King Unas of the 5th Dynasty . Now Maspero was able to start publishing his findings in French by 1884, three years after unsealing the tomb in 1881 and continued to publish all the way up 1894 as more tombs with Text were discovered, but at some point Sethe was put in charge of the project and things slowed significantly, meanwhile both Maspero and Sethe's works are very hard to get hold of. The first English translation of the Pyramid Text was published by Mercer in 1952 and then Faulkner in 1969. However, Piankoff with Natasha again editing wrote "THE PYRAMID OF UNAS" in between Mecer and Faulkner and it was published shortly after Piankoff died suddenly on a trip to Brussels from Egypt to see family, approximately six weeks after Natasha died in California. The Bollingen Foundation included this comment in the forward of the book. "When Alexadre Piankoff died suddenly on July 20, 1968 he had partially read the galley proofs of this volume and had examined and corrected the first stage of the plates. Bollingen Foundation is indebted to Bernard Vl Bothmer for seeing the publication through the press subsequently. He arranged and captioned the pictorial plates, rechecked and perfected the presentation of the textual plates, corrected the text as necessary, and supplied the Finding List of Utterances and Spells. No alteration were made that were not consistent with the author's previous publications and evident intentions." Sounds good if you wish to trust it. Me not particular so and it's not solely because he died a short month and half after she did. There is a total lack of clarity on the various translations of the Pyramid Texts. Mostly done through structure in presentation and omission though Piankoff concentrates just on Unas and uses the Kings' name through out which greatly helps to understand the text. The other two do not use the kings name and make it difficult to see where one tomb ends and the next begins. The ordering of Utterances change making it difficult to refer back from one translation to the next. While Piankoff, follows Mercer, Faulkner manages to jumbles the numbers and jumbles them again in a second edition. All of them though are in agreement on what the text say, even their commentary is the generally the same, so in that regard they all work. Later Allen will come in with a new translation which appears to be the standard as his book is the only one being published today. He brings clarity by separating one tomb to the next but then he goes and changes the utterances through a very liberal use of meanings and his numbering is such a way that agreement between the translators fairly much vanishes. Essentially a mess has been made and it's not easy to sort. At the bottom of this mess is the Flood Hymn, most importantly Utterance 254. None give it mention but to say Unas was speaking of a prophecy, but not a word more. Nor does the Papyrus Hymn get mention, most importantly Utterance 271, then far separated at Utterance 302. (these are all the same in Mercer, Piankoff and Faulkner. Allen does not do 271 & 302, nor does he do Unas claiming Sekhemt (Hathor's lion form) as his mother. "Utterance 254 276: To say the words: "The Great (Uraeus) fumigates the Bull of Nekhen (Hierakonpolis). The heat of the fiery breath is against you, you who are about the shrine (kAr)! O Great God whose name is unknown, (bring) at once a meal of the Unique Lord. O lord of the Horizon (Ax.t), make place for Unas. If you fail to make place for Unas, Unas will pronounce a curse against his father Geb: the earth shall not speak any more; Geb shall not be able to defend himself. (He) whom Unas finds on his way, he will eat him piecemeal. The hnt-pelican announces (sr), the ennead(psD.t)-pelican comes out. The Great One rises. The enneads speak: completely dammed-off shall be the land.
279: The two ridges of the mountain (on both sides of the Nile valley) shall be united. The two banks of the river will be joined. The roads will be hidden from the passers-by. The steps (rwd.w) will be annihilated for those who go up. Make tight the rope (of the boat), sail the road of heaven! Strike the ball on the meadow of Hapi (Apis)!" Not to worry, all of the translators abide by the little foot note that says the above is but some sort of prophecy and none make attempt to explain further even though reading a fair few lines latter there's this little oddity. 293: the heart of Unas be glad (sweet), the heart of Unas be glad (sweet). Unas is the Unique One, the Bull of Heaven. He has exterminated those who did this against him, he has annihilated their offspring upon earth. And another that seems to be paired with the above but again separated by other text, Utterance 271 387 "To say : 'I, king Unas, have inundated the land which came forth from the lake, I have torn out the papyrus-plant, I have satisfied the Two Lands, I have united the Two Lands, I have joined my mother the Great Wild Cow.'"
Utterance 302
462 There is no word against me on earth among men, there is no accusation in the sky among the gods, for I have annulled the word against me, which I destroyed in order to mount the sky. There are other minor refences in Unas's Pyramid Text to Unas flooding the Nile but as best I can see so far all of Egyptology is in agreement that there is no "history" in the pyramid text, only myth and ritual yet I'd challenge anyone to say you are not reading definitive claims of actions done by King Unas. Meanwhile every one of the translators were familiar with "The Book of Heavenly Cow" as it appeared in the tomb of King Seti I and Ramses II and III's tomb. Piankoff for sure as it was in the tomb of Ramses VI and King Tutankhamon's tomb which he wrote about, but makes no effort in the book to make the obvious connections that the myth is in part based on King Unas even though it's roots go back further back at least till the time of Heliopolis became the cult center of Re. What "The Book of the Heavenly Cow" does is to establish the Right of Kings to Rule and annihilate all rebels and that is likely what is wished not to be put out in the public and I would not at all be surprised that Piankoff was going to nudge the notion out a bit more for people to see but instead his book when finally published 2 years after his death doesn't and only offers a little more clarity to a very confusing subject and like Mecer and Faulkner both in the end reads the same, so one should ask what was the point? And no we shouldn't judge Unas too harshly though he seems totally void of any humanity, nor Egypt or any nations that have had Kings and Aristocracies, there contributions have been much the world over especially when they have been benevolent rulers, though with that last, you will find none with King Unas. There is of course more to all this but I'll leave off for now and you might consider deleting this comment as it might put your wonderful video at risk. And if you can't you can leave a message and I'll do it.
Thank you for this very informative comment! I struggled to find out the specific details of Natacha's work with Piankoff, so it's great to have all this information. My sources for this video were a biography of Natacha called 'Madame Valentino' written by Michael Morris, and a follow up to that called Beyond Valentino which goes into even further detail about her later life and work, also by Michael Morris. Natacha's own memoir of her marriage to Valentino is available on Archive.org for free, as are books about her. I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
@@indiascarlett Thank you. All these comments on your video are well deserved. The Michael Morris book "Madame Valentino" arrives in the mail tomorrow. I think I ordered the day before I found your video. I'll likely browse your other links as well although my interest lay more to the Egyptology aspects of her work and are outside the orthodoxy of Egyptology. I did notice from another video watched after yours, much more coarse, they seem to have your same interests even if driven by profit motive, that there is a Bollingen File in the Library of Congress concerning correspondences between the Natasha and the Foundation that appears as if it might cover some of her Egyptology work but I haven't figured a way to view it. findingaids.loc.gov/db/search/xq/searchMfer02.xq?_id=loc.mss.eadmss.ms008117&_faSection=overview&_faSubsection=did&_dmdid=d97889e6 BTW does find I am making a correction to my post above. "However, Piankoff with Natasha again editing wrote "THE PYRAMID OF UNAS" in between Mecer and Faulkner and it was finally published two years after Piankoff died suddenly on a trip to Brussels from Egypt to see family, six months after Natasha died in California. " Changing to However, Piankoff with Natasha again editing wrote "THE PYRAMID OF UNAS" in between Mecer and Faulkner and it was published shortly after Piankoff died suddenly on a trip to Brussels from Egypt to see family, approximately six weeks after Natasha died in California.
While the story was wonderful the narrator's lack of correct pronunciation made listening to it difficult. You can say it was due to the accent, but I listen to other narrators with such accents that do not mispronounce simple words and names. Consider a real human rather than AI in the future.
Natasha Rambova nearly ruined Rudolph Valentino's career because she wanted to run it. It seemed that she wanted things her way, and she had extremely high, but unrealistic expectations. I don't know what to make of her. Misunderstood or manipulative? I could say the same for Valentino--high expectations. Rambova seemed quite talented, with many interests that went against the grain for the average woman of her time. No, she would never have been the devoted wife that Valentino yearned for, or the mother of his children that he probably desired. He was too starry eyed to see the truth, and she thought that she could mold him into her creation. Both had something in mind for each other that could not succeed. Both liked the pampered, picture-perfect lifestyle. Both seemed quite full of themselves. Valentino was vain due to his looks and was spoiled by his mother. Rambova was overlooked by her mother and still carried the wound. She loved art, attempting to design herself into a work of art. She wanted Valentino to be her art project, too. Her spiritual beliefs of ancient cultures, reincarnation, and her love of conducting seances were odd and offbeat. She definitely rejected the societal norms that she came from.
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If you want to find out more about Natacha and Rudy, I'd recommend reading 'Madame Valentino' by Michael Morris and 'Dark Lover' by Emily W. Leider, both are available for free on archive.org.
Thank you for producing the great videos you do ❤ The quality is outstanding! In a similar vein Pola Negri, or Alla Nazimova would be excellent subjects 🥰
How about Nicolas Roerich, Marchesa Luisa Casati or Leonora Fini.
This was an outstanding portrait of Rudy and his life at this time...not a good time for either!
What a fascinating life and woman! Thank you for this lovely and deeply researched video. Rambova has been slightingly portrayed most of the time, especially in relation to Valentino; great to know what a complex, accomplished, and well-rounded person she was. And her designs are beautiful.
This is an absolutely magnificent biography of one of the most important early silent movie set/costume designers in Natahca Rambova. I have long been a Valentino fan, but never really knew much about Natacha. You put a lot of work into this video and it's much appreciated. Thank you so very much for uploading this video and for your research. Bravo to you💌💌💌
Thank you so much! I really enjoyed making it and I'm so happy to get comments like this!
Natacha Rambova is my spirit animal. Thanks for sharing her story!
Really enjoyed this anazing biography. Well produced. A criticism, vary the pace of the narration, and use the pause.
Yes, delivery is way too fast and without inflection, not enjoyable.
Slow down with the narrative, it’s very annoying and impossible to follow.
India, you are one of the best. Not only do you have a wonderful narrative voice, but you also take great care when presenting your videos to be factual and thorough. I've been a great admirer of Natacha's since I was a small child, and more recently having read the excellent book "Madame Valentino" which restores the dignity of her real love with Rudy, and her very real talents. Definitely a Renaissance Woman for all our times.
Thank you so much! This comment is lovely and inspiring. I'm so glad you enjoyed the video!
This was a fascinating and well-researched story! Thank you.
Thank you so much!
Wow! I've only read and heard negative things about her. Thank you for presenting this thorough examination of her and her brilliant mind.
She was a fascinating and clever woman. An interesting insight into her life and later her life with Rudy. I think she was painted in a bad light by those in Hollywood. She wanted the best for Rudy and fought for him and tried to protect him from the greedy profiteers in the film industry. Just as any wife worth her salt would do. I think she loved him very much. It is so sad that their marriage ended the way it did. Had things been different I think he would possibly have gone on to direct films and she would have been at his side supporting him. Thank you I really enjoyed this.
This was fascinating. I always wanted to know more about Natacha. Rudy was a beauty but she was truly, expansively creative and interesting.
Natacha's mother's fourth marriage was to my friend's grandfather Richard Hudnutt. Hudnutt manufactured cosmetics and perfume. In 1969 he was tge oldest living graduate of Princeton. My friend was Stephen Hudnutt Lutz.
I own a compact of the brand it is dated around 1924. I am from Australia
Amazing! I do remember hearing about Hudnutt cosmetics on TV and in magazines as a little girl in the 1950s. What a story!
That is fascinating! Curious to know if any book has been written about Richard Hudnutt's legacy?
@@NirvanaFan24 They are beautifully designed, aren't they?
She was her own woman,kathern hepburn felt the same way about children. Well done she was very pretty,enjoyed this very much thank you
Hepburn was waaay to egotistical, self centured to have a kid. Even her book is "Me". Boring , boring, nothing to offer another person. NO ONE is full time interesting . She seemed oblivious to others.
The World is grateful that women who don't like children be mothers. Be with their own careers, be bold but don't create misery in the lives of other people.
@@doreekaplan2589you are abdolutely right
Thank you for your informative, well produced documentary. I hope that in your future videos you will slow your narration; as it stands here, the solidly factual post seems hurriedly read. Regardless of my criticism, thank you very much for your efforts.
I tried slowing playback speed.
Thank you so much for this comment !! I had to rewind several times, but thought it was due to the fact that English is not my native tongue...
Extraordinary woman. Exceptionally well done video. Kudos.
Thank you so much!
SPECTACULAR video, research, presentation & narration style. Congratulations!!!
Thank you so much! I'm so glad you enjoyed it! ❤️
Myrna Loy was in the Kosloff dance company/taking lessons when Kosloff worked in Hollywood.
Ms Loy was fascinated with Rambova, she thought her the most beautiful woman she'd ever seen, long thick golden brown hair worn in braids wrapped around her head & unusual golden eyes.
(Nazimova was Nancy Reagans godmother!)
A wonderful book if you can find it
Is Madam Valentino
Wow! I didn't know Nazimova was Nancy's godmother! I love Madam Valentino, such a great read.
@@indiascarlett Nancy Davis
(later Reagan) was a small time actress never quite a star, but her Mother, Edith Luckett was also an stage actress from the 1900s into 1920s, so Nancy had some doors opened for her, through her Mom's connections,
I guess we would call Nancy
a 'Nepo' baby! Ha ha
Anyway the Mom & Nazimova were great friends.
Edith lived to be 99, evidently she had a very long interesting life.
Yes, the book is wonderful with so many great pictures.
Did you know Rudy also recorded music? He sang & allowing for differences in singing - the 1920 style to our era- he was quite good.
Sad he died so so young over what could be treated so easily today.
Obviously I'm a huge early Hollywood /silent era aficionado-fan
@@poorthing Thank you for sharing all this "new to me" information! I too have become a massive fan of silent films and the 1920s thanks to my love for Rudolph Valentino! ❤
Thank you for these excellent documentaries! Could you please make one about ballerina Mathilde Kchessinska? She had an extraordinary life too
You're the first person I've heard mention her! I am actually researching for a video on her now, she's so underrated
@@indiascarlettthank you so much for all the work you do for us plz keep them coming
Thankyou for this sensational biogaphy!! I've heard of Natasha, but knew little about her except, she was with Valentino. She was so multi-talented and very intelligent. She sure didn't let grass grow under her feet. She was so adventurous, more than any Actress/dancer, I've heard of. I love the fact that she had compassion for animals, and hated if they were mistreated. My uncle saw a man beating his dog, and he got out of his car and beat him with the chain, he used on the poor dog, and took the dog away from him, many years ago. She was always working on educational projects in her later years, till her death. She's one of the most facinating, people I have learned about. I love to watch old movies. RIP Natasha. 🙏🩰🌹🌹💐💐
I've spent time in Las Encinas. It was like a resort at one time. Beautiful gardens to walk-around
Thank you so much for telling us about this fascinating woman. I knew of Valentino and his early death, but nothing else of his life. Fascinating and so well done!Again, thank you so much!
Thank you so much. I'm glad you enjoyed it!
This was quite informative and I was quite impressed with what you have done with everything you collected!! Thank you for all the work and time you put into this.
Love her! I'm 18 years old and Inspired by her clothing designs
Just amazing! Thank you.
How about Nicolas Roerich or Leonora Fini.
This isn't the kind of video TH-cam typically suggests for me but I watched it because I have viewed the art collections of Natacha and her mother but very little, and your video would suggest, inaccurate information was given about them. Thank you, I cannot remember when I last enjoyed a video on TH-cam so much.
Thank you so much! If you haven't already I'd recommend checking out 'Madam Valentino: The many lives of Natacha Rambova' by Michael Morris, it's a great book.
What a fascinating,well researched and enjoyable documentary,she was a very interesting ,talented and amazing person .
Thank you! ❤️
I just stumbled upon your channel and immediately subscribed! I'm going on a binge of watching your videos...keep up the good work.
Thank you so much!
This woman is very intelligent apparently. She was artistic and intelligent and beautiful. That sounds like a winning combination, but I’m impressed with her intelligence that’s very nice to know.
India your reporting and narration is charming. Will you do a profile on actress Linda Christian. She was discovered by Errol Flynn and married to Tyrone Power.
I will look into her! Thank you!
Absolutely fascinating content and very well put together I’m impressed
Thank you!
Wow. Great documentary piece. So well researched and presented. 👏👏👏
Thank you so much!
Interesting woman, that I never heard about
I'd never heard of her before a subscriber suggested I make a video. It's incredible how much a person can fit into one life!
Yip skip!! Was so excited to see a new video! Well done. Thank you! 🦖I gots the FOMO! Psh only being married once and punched a man in the nose even less times than that. I wonder if it’s as fun as it seems. 💚Thank you!🎉🎉
Thank you!
she's so beautiful and classy it hurts!
Your videos are wonderful!
Thank you!
#nammyohorengekyo..a prayer for her..
Valentino's manager said Natacha was the only woman who was immune from Valentinos' charm." Strange marriage a bit like Duke of Windsor and Wallis Simpson.
This might have made Valentino more intrigued, and might have been a challenge he was willing to pursue!
She was driven by a nervous energy. She couldn't stop and it's probably just as well she did not have children. It's sad though. Who knows what kind of mother she would have been. She might have thrown herself into motherhood with the same vigor that she devoted to her careers and succeeded greatly.
It seems like she suffered many traumas throughout her young life. Her coping mechanism was probably just closing herself off to the world as she did. This may have impacted and forever changed her views about life. Who knows if she experienced healing of these traumas.
I love this woman. Thank you for introducing her to me.
Lights sown onto the dress?? How?
This is really such a treasure 💖💖 This is the first time I've been to your WONDERFUL channel. 🎉🎉🎉 THANK YOU FOR THIS.. AMAZING ❤❤
Thank you so much!
You NEVER mentioned
"The Son of Sheik" !
I had so much to fit in, apologies!
Also not mentioned is the fact that Rudolph Valentino was gay.
He was not gay
@@indiascarlett Natacha had nothing to do with The Son of The Sheik, so it is not surprising you would not mention that film.
Well done.
A remarkable woman who should be better known
Fascinating.❤
❤ She lived a very full life. ❤
Natasha was hurt by the bastard cad who had seduced her, and she changed.
I think so too. He seemed like an abusive man.
Ssssoooo much information!! 🤯 What are your sources??
My research predominately comes from the book Madame Valentino by Michael Morris and his follow up to it, called Beyond Valentino. Also Emily Leider's biography of Rudy, Dark Lover, and Natacha's own book which is available on Archive.org. I also used some books on Old Hollywood costumes to find out more about Natacha's work.
@@indiascarlett Hi .... I knew Michael pretty well. I have read his book, Madam Valentino several times, as well as Beyond Valentino (which I realize is controversial, but it holds much of the info you had in the video). However, there are some details you had in the video which are in neither book. I would ask what sources you used to find out things like the detail of the double fracture of her left leg as being the day Alvaro asked her for the annulment. I find it odd Natacha was so forgiving, especially since Alvaro put down on his request for the annulment that his reason was that Natacha never intended to have children. Same reason that Rudy used. Natacha was never banned by George Ullman from being on Rudy's movie set for any film or by anyone else contractually. She lost her temper and caused that herself. George Ullman did not hire the private detective to watch Natacha, Beltran Masses told Ullman to tell Rudy to hire him, and so Rudy did that. I have to wonder why Natacha and Alvaro then hosted Beltran Masses at their home, as pictured in your video, years later. I think Natacha never knew he was behind it all. So, I would like to know your sources for your video. In addition, I would ask why your photos do not correspond with your narration. I mean, it is just all over the place. As I posted elsewhere in this comment section, I am one of Natacha's cousins and I have done extensive research into her life. The book, Madam Valentino is old, as is Dark Lover. There have been several discoveries made about Natacha and Rudy since its publication. This video you made is new. I'd like to see the correct information used. My three cents. However, I did NOT find your narration to be too fast. I understood you perfectly. My website is Darkmum Dearest if you would like to visit for more info on Rudy and Natacha..
This was beautifully done. I’m on the other side of the camp on Natasha. As a Spanish POC and avid Rudy fan, I was never really satisfied with the impressions I’ve always been given about her from a variety of writings. I was wrong. Though many consider her fascinating, I see her as pretty much the basic person of high privilege that at least does something for the sake of the arts, as long as it benefitted her. That’s the ultimate show of privilege. She made a lot of horribly racist comments to publications and was quite deceptive about not actually wanting children in both marriages, which is fine as I too have made that choice in my own life, but she wasn’t upfront about that due to her own need to benefit off of others. There were many examples of how she didn’t hesitate to piggyback off of Rudy’s endeavors for her own advancement and causing great strife if she wasn’t included professionally. That’s the very definition of opportunistic. This is just my two cents from a POC that knows good and well that someone that uses disparaging language about people of color, even when married to a person of color, is still racist. That era was definitely that era, but keeping people of color “in there place” was still very much a conscious practice.
This was fascinating and very well done!
For me, she simply wasn’t. She was pretty petty and basic as all people with privilege are that have deep seeded issues with self-confidence that only have their eye on the prize. I was hoping she was more of a feminist, not just another selfish opportunist masquerading as strong and spiritual.
That baby picture is so cute!
WELL told BRAVOOOOOOO👋👋👋👋👋👋👋
People demonize her like crazy. She gets called every name in the book because people acted like she was some sort of She Wolf who dominated valentino. She encouraged and helped his aesthetic. She was definitely a force for him yes she goes down forgotten or some sort of females Svengali she definitely was a little callous in her relationship with him but she deserves her do credit
I agree, I think a lot of the hatred towards her is a continuation of the criticism in the press at the time. I also wonder if she got a lot of hate because other women were jealous she was married to Valentino
@@indiascarlett The hate can also stem from the fact that she ultimately betrayed him, cheating on him with a cameraman instead of working through their differences. I get that she was an ambitious and independent-minded woman. But Rudy loved her, worshipped her, wrote a poem for her. And in the end, it was not enough for her to remain loyal to him and their marriage. He was a traditional Southern Italian man with Old World values and he wanted children. She was a more worldly and liberal woman. And I'm reminded of a conversation she had with her mother that she was to make sure that she didn't have any children.
They were definitely from two different worlds. I think Rudy did his best to love her like she had never been loved before. But she had too many issues. Perhaps she was simply not meant to be married. She did later express her regrets on her behavior in an interview a few years after Valentino passed. She admitted to being quite proud and stubborn.
Interesting woman, though I don't know what she saw in Valentino!😣
This is the most in depth study on Natasha that I've come across. Very good, but I came across looking into this woman from an entirely different direction which was Alexadre Piankoff and I'm wondering if the story is finished. One thing missing from other sources is that Natasha learned of the Rodoloph Valinento's death by telegram and spent three days locked in her room. Not sure if that is true and your research might be better than the skimpy things I've read.
Meanwhile Natasha while working for the Bollingen Foundation edited four works by Piankoff and actually contributed a chapter to one of them, "MYTHOLOGICAL PAPYRI" published in 1957 . Based on your piece here I might wonder if she did not help Piankoff get rights to decipher the many inscriptions and art work of the chinise puzzle box like shrine that held King Tut-Ankh-Amon's sarcophagus. it would of been attack from two directions as Piankoff had studied under Kurt Sethe, the one who was the go to expert for the decipherment of the Pyramid Text after he took control of the project after Maspero who discovered the Tomb of Unas. Howard Carter discovered the boy king's tomb in 1922, but decipherment of the shrine box did not see it's first publication until Piankoff published the work in 1955 in a book called "THE SHRINES OF TUT-ANKH-AMON, Texts Translated with Introduction by Alexandre Piankoff. Edited by N. Rambova". A year earlier they brought to publication "THE TOMB OF RAMSES THE IV", both important because both contained the 19th and 20th Dynasty myth called "The book of the Heavenly Cow" also known as "The Destruction of Mankind" from which elements of the Myth are easily detectable in the Pyramid Text of King Unas of the 5th Dynasty . Now Maspero was able to start publishing his findings in French by 1884, three years after unsealing the tomb in 1881 and continued to publish all the way up 1894 as more tombs with Text were discovered, but at some point Sethe was put in charge of the project and things slowed significantly, meanwhile both Maspero and Sethe's works are very hard to get hold of. The first English translation of the Pyramid Text was published by Mercer in 1952 and then Faulkner in 1969. However, Piankoff with Natasha again editing wrote "THE PYRAMID OF UNAS" in between Mecer and Faulkner and it was published shortly after Piankoff died suddenly on a trip to Brussels from Egypt to see family, approximately six weeks after Natasha died in California.
The Bollingen Foundation included this comment in the forward of the book. "When Alexadre Piankoff died suddenly on July 20, 1968 he had partially read the galley proofs of this volume and had examined and corrected the first stage of the plates. Bollingen Foundation is indebted to Bernard Vl Bothmer for seeing the publication through the press subsequently. He arranged and captioned the pictorial plates, rechecked and perfected the presentation of the textual plates, corrected the text as necessary, and supplied the Finding List of Utterances and Spells. No alteration were made that were not consistent with the author's previous publications and evident intentions." Sounds good if you wish to trust it. Me not particular so and it's not solely because he died a short month and half after she did.
There is a total lack of clarity on the various translations of the Pyramid Texts. Mostly done through structure in presentation and omission though Piankoff concentrates just on Unas and uses the Kings' name through out which greatly helps to understand the text. The other two do not use the kings name and make it difficult to see where one tomb ends and the next begins. The ordering of Utterances change making it difficult to refer back from one translation to the next. While Piankoff, follows Mercer, Faulkner manages to jumbles the numbers and jumbles them again in a second edition. All of them though are in agreement on what the text say, even their commentary is the generally the same, so in that regard they all work. Later Allen will come in with a new translation which appears to be the standard as his book is the only one being published today. He brings clarity by separating one tomb to the next but then he goes and changes the utterances through a very liberal use of meanings and his numbering is such a way that agreement between the translators fairly much vanishes. Essentially a mess has been made and it's not easy to sort.
At the bottom of this mess is the Flood Hymn, most importantly Utterance 254. None give it mention but to say Unas was speaking of a prophecy, but not a word more. Nor does the Papyrus Hymn get mention, most importantly Utterance 271, then far separated at Utterance 302. (these are all the same in Mercer, Piankoff and Faulkner. Allen does not do 271 & 302, nor does he do Unas claiming Sekhemt (Hathor's lion form) as his mother.
"Utterance 254
276: To say the words:
"The Great (Uraeus) fumigates the Bull of Nekhen (Hierakonpolis).
The heat of the fiery breath is against you,
you who are about the shrine (kAr)!
O Great God whose name is unknown, (bring) at once a meal of the Unique Lord.
O lord of the Horizon (Ax.t), make place for Unas.
If you fail to make place for Unas, Unas will pronounce a curse against his father Geb:
the earth shall not speak any more;
Geb shall not be able to defend himself.
(He) whom Unas finds on his way, he will eat him piecemeal.
The hnt-pelican announces (sr), the ennead(psD.t)-pelican comes out.
The Great One rises. The enneads speak: completely dammed-off shall be the land.
279: The two ridges of the mountain (on both sides of the Nile valley) shall be united.
The two banks of the river will be joined.
The roads will be hidden from the passers-by.
The steps (rwd.w) will be annihilated for those who go up.
Make tight the rope (of the boat), sail the road of heaven!
Strike the ball on the meadow of Hapi (Apis)!"
Not to worry, all of the translators abide by the little foot note that says the above is but some sort of prophecy and none make attempt to explain further even though reading a fair few lines latter there's this little oddity.
293: the heart of Unas be glad (sweet), the heart of Unas be glad (sweet).
Unas is the Unique One, the Bull of Heaven.
He has exterminated those who did this against him,
he has annihilated their offspring upon earth.
And another that seems to be paired with the above but again separated by other text,
Utterance 271
387 "To say : 'I, king Unas, have inundated the land which came forth from the lake, I have torn out the papyrus-plant, I have satisfied the Two Lands, I have united the Two Lands, I have joined my mother the Great Wild Cow.'"
Utterance 302
462 There is no word against me on earth among men, there is no accusation in the sky among the gods, for I have annulled the word against me, which I destroyed in order to mount the sky.
There are other minor refences in Unas's Pyramid Text to Unas flooding the Nile but as best I can see so far all of Egyptology is in agreement that there is no "history" in the pyramid text, only myth and ritual yet I'd challenge anyone to say you are not reading definitive claims of actions done by King Unas. Meanwhile every one of the translators were familiar with "The Book of Heavenly Cow" as it appeared in the tomb of King Seti I and Ramses II and III's tomb. Piankoff for sure as it was in the tomb of Ramses VI and King Tutankhamon's tomb which he wrote about, but makes no effort in the book to make the obvious connections that the myth is in part based on King Unas even though it's roots go back further back at least till the time of Heliopolis became the cult center of Re.
What "The Book of the Heavenly Cow" does is to establish the Right of Kings to Rule and annihilate all rebels and that is likely what is wished not to be put out in the public and I would not at all be surprised that Piankoff was going to nudge the notion out a bit more for people to see but instead his book when finally published 2 years after his death doesn't and only offers a little more clarity to a very confusing subject and like Mecer and Faulkner both in the end reads the same, so one should ask what was the point? And no we shouldn't judge Unas too harshly though he seems totally void of any humanity, nor Egypt or any nations that have had Kings and Aristocracies, there contributions have been much the world over especially when they have been benevolent rulers, though with that last, you will find none with King Unas.
There is of course more to all this but I'll leave off for now and you might consider deleting this comment as it might put your wonderful video at risk. And if you can't you can leave a message and I'll do it.
Thank you for this very informative comment! I struggled to find out the specific details of Natacha's work with Piankoff, so it's great to have all this information. My sources for this video were a biography of Natacha called 'Madame Valentino' written by Michael Morris, and a follow up to that called Beyond Valentino which goes into even further detail about her later life and work, also by Michael Morris. Natacha's own memoir of her marriage to Valentino is available on Archive.org for free, as are books about her. I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
@@indiascarlett Thank you. All these comments on your video are well deserved. The Michael Morris book "Madame Valentino" arrives in the mail tomorrow. I think I ordered the day before I found your video. I'll likely browse your other links as well although my interest lay more to the Egyptology aspects of her work and are outside the orthodoxy of Egyptology. I did notice from another video watched after yours, much more coarse, they seem to have your same interests even if driven by profit motive, that there is a Bollingen File in the Library of Congress concerning correspondences between the Natasha and the Foundation that appears as if it might cover some of her Egyptology work but I haven't figured a way to view it. findingaids.loc.gov/db/search/xq/searchMfer02.xq?_id=loc.mss.eadmss.ms008117&_faSection=overview&_faSubsection=did&_dmdid=d97889e6
BTW does find I am making a correction to my post above.
"However, Piankoff with Natasha again editing wrote "THE PYRAMID OF UNAS" in between Mecer and Faulkner and it was finally published two years after Piankoff died suddenly on a trip to Brussels from Egypt to see family, six months after Natasha died in California. "
Changing to
However, Piankoff with Natasha again editing wrote "THE PYRAMID OF UNAS" in between Mecer and Faulkner and it was published shortly after Piankoff died suddenly on a trip to Brussels from Egypt to see family, approximately six weeks after Natasha died in California.
While the story was wonderful the narrator's lack of correct pronunciation made listening to it difficult. You can say it was due to the accent, but I listen to other narrators with such accents that do not mispronounce simple words and names. Consider a real human rather than AI in the future.
Apologies for any mispronounciations, I am the narrator it's not Ai haha.
Natasha Rambova nearly ruined Rudolph Valentino's career because she wanted to run it. It seemed that she wanted things her way, and she had extremely high, but unrealistic expectations. I don't know what to make of her. Misunderstood or manipulative?
I could say the same for Valentino--high expectations. Rambova seemed quite talented, with many interests that went against the grain for the average woman of her time. No, she would never have been the devoted wife that Valentino yearned for, or the mother of his children that he probably desired. He was too starry eyed to see the truth, and she thought that she could mold him into her creation. Both had something in mind for each other that could not succeed. Both liked the pampered, picture-perfect lifestyle. Both seemed quite full of themselves. Valentino was vain due to his looks and was spoiled by his mother. Rambova was overlooked by her mother and still carried the wound. She loved art, attempting to design herself into a work of art. She wanted Valentino to be her art project, too.
Her spiritual beliefs of ancient cultures, reincarnation, and her love of conducting seances were odd and offbeat. She definitely rejected the societal norms that she came from.
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I was born in wrong era love all the clothes and decadent places..if only
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The furniture was painted to resemble Chinese lacquer...not liqueur......😮
I said Lacquer lol
Way too fast. Please slow down when speaking!!!
You can slow down the speed in the settings!
She clearly wasn't short marbles.
This is rather sick... But still.
An animal lover who called her dog Bimbo???
Sal-OHH-MEE?! Yikes please recheck
It's how the English pronounce it.
@indiascarlett no it is y we pronounce it saomay