You said I should kill myself, and joined my server to try and ping me with slurs. Not to mention you're Dry's little fanboy constantly reporting in his server when something happens (like T Piig making a new server ages after that ended). I think you should be the one getting a job, and putting the fries in my bag, please and thank you.
@@Hey1mJay Yea and you are you hurt by that? I frankly don't care lmao it's weird that you're even going out of your way to obsessively look over the things ive said behind your back, says much more about you then you realise, i could be hating on drybones but the evidences you've shown and the amount of bs you've thrown around without even reconsidering made me realise that you're a fraud worth being made fun of lmao, also I've heard that you have some allegations pointed towards yourself that you didn't adress and that you also deleted some hate comments from others, very suspicious honestly, since you seem to care so much about what I have to say maybe adress those and then I'll start respecting you 🤺🦅💠🚬
@@Kosta991 lol I'm not hurt, it's just an example of your immaturity. If you're going to send death threats because your beloved Plants vs. Zombies TH-camr got called out then that's a you problem, not mine. "But the evidence you've shown" nearly everything I've brought up has been shittily "defended" in his own response (which I've already called out leaving parts out to make himself not look as bad). Also, what allegations? The only thing I've heard of is me supposedly banning people from my server for "criticizing me" which comes from some random kid, and when I checked their ban reason, they made jokes about Adolf Hitler and Osama Bin Laden (which is a pretty justifiable ban in my own opinion). I haven't been deleting hate comments, otherwise the comment section would be a lot emptier. If a bud of yours or someone else's comment isn't showing up then that's TH-cam's filter doing its work. The exact comment (PJ's) that I addressed was literally one that was automatically filtered out and I couldn't find it on my own end, I had to dig for it in Dry's own server to address it. Why would I pick favorites of which hate comments to keep? That's stupid.
Man,i can't take it anymore.... The pvz community was a "relatively clean" one,without people getting called out or cancelled every 5 minutes. *but this year was another level* like bro.... i can't even list the amount of shit that happened,is this really the rabbid hole we are going to fall as a community???
Yeah, all I’m really seeing is dry bones being a flirty teenager who didn’t know boundaries and didn’t some uncomfortable topics because of it. But I’m not seeing any criminal serious stuff like blackmail and trying to find out peoples addresses. Because all of this feels like it’s being blown up to the criminal level.
Yes while Dry was also a minor when he did such things, it's still wrong and the point of calling out Dry like this is to get an honest apology from him. Instead he chooses to ignore certain aspects and lie to his audience about the situation.
I watch both you and Dry’s videos, I like the content. But this drama just feels like a political debate at this point, murky on both sides, underhanded on both sides, communities at each other’s throats. I’m just gonna make like this didn’t happen, because I genuinely cannot keep up with this.
Unrelated but trying to defend himself calling you "a 20,000 TH-camr" is very immature, just like thinking that being 15 is an excuse to do stupid things
I dont know how smart yall expecting like a 14-15 year old kid to be a lot of kids end up saying or doing stupid stuff they regret in the future and calling bro a groomer for some things he said in like 2022 when he was like 15 is crazy work and on top of all this bro took accountability for all the stuff he said and addressed it like what more do yall want from bro💀
3:33 Yes, and teenagers are prone to do stupid things that they'll regret in the future. i was one of them, but if not taking responsibility for that, DOSE have consequences drybones wasn't even saying that like ppl would just sweep that away he clearly hated that era of his life and took responsibility for that.
Yes I Was A Teenager Too. The problem is that he downplays it by leaving out context and not telling the true story. It's clear he's still embarrassed and ashamed of it otherwise you would actually tell the truth. It's not accountability if you scoot around the core subject and say a bunch of half-truths. It's not much better if your response to a video intentionally leaves out parts that leave holes in your argument.
@Hey1mJay I'm aware of that, but if it's uncomfortable for him at best, a professional is the best first him to explain it too. Not every story needs to be heard by all
@@iggypikminunderly782 I think you're forgetting he's not a victim. He is the abuser. If you are being creepy towards people and make an apology, I expect you to tell the truth and everything you did in that apology.
@Hey1mJay i was never saying he's a victim in any of this im just saying there's a side to every story and in this case I'm just saying for him it's best for a professional to help him best comeing from me cuz I don't normally give ppl like him a chance in this type of situation
Resson, why is he's not like riffraff, where there were absolutely 0 redeeming qualities with him but with drybones what he did was bad and I don't support but atleast he isn't "trying" to hide from it nor municipal his fans (unlike riffraff who did the same thing) point is there's alot of ppl in this community who like him and are aware of this stuff but rather than make one side satisfy with his departure i think it's best for him to seek help in coming with terms of this
@@hangrychip I'm pretty much just here watching the drama unfold while everyone is screaming in flames and I'm just here sipping my cup of hot coco idk what's going on but something is definitely going on you feel me
@@meowcatjeff7721 Real. I pray that Drybones is innocent, but I feel like I'm just coping at this point.. Hey, even if we don't got Drybones, atleast we still got Wolfy.
“Can you imagine making a poor choice to then have hundreds, if not thousands of people, pointing fingers at you and not taking the time to consider that maybe YOU are not inherently evil?” People have to remember that we’re all just human. We’re not perfect beings incapable of wrongdoings. We all make mistakes, some bigger than others
In the first video, he never addressed these comments. In his response, he says they were jokes. I bring them up again because it's a stupid idea to make jokes about yourself being the leaker if you weren't while there were people saying it's you. That's what I was saying.
That's youtuber. It's a black and white mess. it's easy to dehumanize someone for what they said or done and the other ppl having regrets or none ever understanding you bc they are not you, and thats what i despise about moderne media just he said she said fake that say that
Yeah, I can agree with you in some ways. The fake screenshot sent to me with Dry and Random DMing about Exotic supposedly sharing nudes was not able to verified due to Random basically leaving the PvZ community and becoming very inactive. I didn't have the opportunity to verify this, so others and myself made the decision to include it regardless since it "makes sense" given everything else they did. This was wrong and I should've not included it if I couldn't completely verify it. Chilling and Grooming was a similar thing, someone else sent me the clip because it sounded to them like he said Chilling and Grooming. I listened to the clip, heard it, so I was under the impression that he was joking about the allegations. Chilling and Grooving is a common catchphrase in his streams, and while I have watched parts of some, I was never at points where he said this. I assumed he did say this because in my experiences watching parts, I haven't heard it, though I never stick around for long in his videos / streams because I can't tolerate his content style. This is also wrong, and I should've gone deeper into his community's culture. This was compiled with a lot of stress in mind, since there was a level of urgency to get it out since T Piig made his video while mine was in production, and it hurt a lot of credibility regarding "Calling Drybones Out" since people would see it as me trying to clout chase, even though I've been here from the beginning starting in the Skid-B-Gone group, and all of the people involved like Ally, Brekko (BreakfastBrainz2), and the anonymous person are friends I hold closely and want to defend them.
@not_fake_ninja4976 It's really disappointing that people will take this one part and use it to disqualify everything else I brought up. While it is fair to be iffy about any misinformation being shown, everything I've included was information I was 100% confident in showing. If something is somehow proven false, I will address it publicly.
@@Hey1mJaySadly, that's a common occurrence among humans. You could have the best arguments against someone but you mishear one tiny part of what they said, they will fixate only on that mistake and throw under the bus the rest of your speech. I wish we could have a good ending where the whole truth is told and victims can finally feel like there was full accountability for what they suffered. But I doubt it, unfortunately.
Would be funny tbh seeing how in tpiig video of false accusations jay said pea tuah pea on that thang making fun of him so it would be funny if jay also ends up like tpiig
Yeah, I got around to reading his document and he explained what he could have done which sounds very remorseful. On one of the topics he even apologized about it so it's not like he's allergic to apologizing like the guy suggests. Also to his point about he didn't address everything and left out some things, sure he didn't get every detail out there, but it's very clear that he regrets everything. That's like saying a thief apologizing needs to also apologize to the people the product was denied of because they weren't able to buy it. It seems like a bunch of nonsense to me
For me, you personally lost credibility when you clearly didn't do your research and made false allegations. I can't take anything you say seriously and you are making claims like, "I didn't know" which is not an excuse in the slightest. If anything, I was young is a better excuse. While I don't think you need to be cancelled and I hate people sending death threats and stuff to you, it's hard for me to trust quite literally anything you say now. It feels like you might be the Verlisify of the PvZ community though Edit: Ironically I did not do enough research either because reading rhe new doc debunking his really opened my eyes to the severity of these situations. I may still watch him for his opinions on things but I'm sorry you were right. My point about you should have done better research yourself still stands though (even though I didn't myself but still)
notice how most of the rebuttals against jay by drybones and/or his fans are focusing on trying to discredit jay rather than actually replying to anything jay said. genuinely just makes it come off as if they didnt watch the video or read the doc or anything
Both parties are equally wrong. jay tried to add false evidence/ give and empty amout of research, which btw ppl hate that. And drybones has done/said things that i dont not agree but wont deny i was in a similar bout to him
@lamegamertime how is someone saying he did it and accusation not to mention that video was a re-upload bc there was false stuff that was clear as day that alone tells me enough that only thing that was legitimate was the stuff dry said when he was 15
@@iggypikminunderly782 There was *one* fake thing. That was the nudes screenshot. The grooming and chilling clip was a mistake on my end, but it wasn't "fake". Everything else was legitimate.
Ngl this seems like a victim of SA projecting and taking his anger out on someone who admitted and regrets what they did as 15 year old, sure using his age as an excuse is wrong but people act like someone can’t mature and grow as a person and that the stuff they did in the past reflects who they are currently, like saying that he’s not taking responsibility for not reminding himself everyday of the terrible things he did in the past is he obviously doesn’t want to remember and trying to forget is kinda crazy.
This is genuinely so confusing. I have no idea whats even going on or who to believe anymore. Could you perhaps make a summary or something of your points?
... why? T Piig quit because he did this for fame, with a terrible argument, and then when that backfired, he quit. If he continues to say something, I'll consider saying something. Maybe not a video, but perhaps another community post. Even after this, I'll still make my own content. I entered this willingly in support of my friends.
@Hey1mJay No, what I meant was that covering this too much might cause even more drama to happen. I apologize if this was taken the wrong way, drama is just something no one wants to get into. Regardless, I respect you actually researching this instead of coming to quick conclusions.
Man this is a kid's game can we get past the drama and claiming people likes touching kids thing. I used to be very invested in drama it was a very toxic. Let's just forget about this pretend like it didn't even happen.
You are telling me he made many lies upon himself, and i fell for it easy. I can't believe I've been supporting a predator the whole time, and now i feel absolutely disgusted by what i just did on your other video by trying to defend him when, in reality i should've been supporting you and GabrielOflTM. But rn the damage has already been done. Two fractions are fighting over nothing. [just like my enemies during my time in the 60s] And it's only gonna get worse as the time goes on, unless we start exposing dry and the other predators more, than perhaps this community does have a chance to rise up again.
Jesus this all so meaningless. Discord is a worthless application, it can't hurt you. Using discord and not expecting freaky shit is like walking outside in a thunderstorm and expecting to not get wet.
I... what? "Using Discord and not expecting freaky shit" ???? I think a TH-camr with a decent following that's displayed creepy behavior towards the people they knew closely is not okay? Are we suddenly not allowed to hold people accountable for crossing boundaries? Genuinely, how ignorant do you have to be to say something as stupid as this.
4:47 sorry that your friend went through that but it still doesn't give you the right to falsified accusations and then stich this in there, you basically made 2 lies and a truth vid, and when you have more lies then truths all become lies.
To be honest both parties have really good arguments, however drybones, keeps doing the “oh I was 15 I was dumb, didn’t know what I was doing”. That is not taking accountability, he should just respond genuinely to the drama and actually apologize correctly this time, but don’t apologize to the audience, apologize to your victims, dry
@ I took the time to watch all the response videos and I realize that you are right and most of what I said isn’t fair. I still think dry shouldn’t be responding to these kind of videos even if they’re true or not, it jus brings a bunch of negativity into the community, for example if you look into the top comment of this video, you can see that jay got sent death threats. I don’t care if jay’s in the right or not but no one and I mean NO ONE deserves to get sent death threats. What I now come to realize is that neither dry or jay are in the wrong, it’s both of theirs communities that blew their whole situation out of proportions
Reget is a positive emotion not a negative that what jay dosnt understand what im getting he never had experience drybones had when he was 14/15, whatever i was in a similar bout to dry it may not excuse what i said back then but at least i didn't ignore them or say i didn't see anything wrong about that hes aware that was bad he hates it im not defending his actions but at least he knows they happened
4:35 and bet you that's what he was trying to say bc news flash teens are proud to say or do things bc of a group trying to be cool so they dont feel left out and if he said that you could be saying this equally as negative to this no amount of words makes anyone look good in that situation
Hey Jay I do respect you trying to stand up for your friends and plz don’t take this the wrong way. But listen this Fight isn’t worth it trust me on this I had to deal with similiar stuff on different Gaming community’s trying to fight back for kinda similiar reasons your doing right now. But this is going to just end up extreamly badly for both sides an even your friends if this keeps going on. What I’m trying to say is there may be more better ways to handle this cause it feels like everything is to hazy in both responses with some feelings being either to hidden and not to much evidence to support. I hope I didn’t hugely offend you but I’m just sharing some experience so you don’t fall down a similar path. Trust on this plz it’s not good for mentality.
I do appreciate your concern for my health but I'd like to ask how is there not much evidence? There's him creeping in the DMs of 4 different people alone, that should be enough to prove this behavior isn't a one-time thing?
While your evidence does show proof of them being harassed i feel like you could’ve added a little bit more to it I feel like there was much much more in the topics that were shown in the video when it came to the screenshots an conversations between dry and the victims. The more evidence you gather the more better you make your point. What I’m trying to say is show more of the conversations instead of some parts of it you know? But then again idk if that’s all the parts to it. But you do make good points in this video to on points he refused to elaborate or apoglized to anyone he harassed.
He's not a pedophile, he was a minor at the time. It's still grooming, but he isn't a pedophile. Even if I don't like him, I don't want real slander against him.
I literally acknowledged the clip, which is a mistake. But everything else? Genuine proof. It's not a black and white situation if he's purposely leaving out context.
There are literally SO MANY cases in history where an innocent person has been brought down be enough people accusing them. But go ahead and”if enough people accuse then the person is automatically bad.”
@@Kosta991 LOL ok. I know the victims and was here from the beginning. Also, why the hell would I want to be known for this? I like making videos on games I like, and these videos aren't even monetized so I'm not gaining anything from it.
No I'm getting tired of this people calling out each other for someone I'm going to dislike this video because of this calling out each other instead of calling him out you should have at least talk to him first before you're making assumptions.
I don't think you watched it. Both me and my friend, Brekko/BreakfastBrainz2, tried to. He didn't accept our friend requests so we continued without his involvement.
I can understand that dry make mistakes but just because he said some weird stuff. I mean that doesn't mean that he's automatically a groomer and yeah we all make mistakes the important thing is that we can fix them.
@@Hey1mJayI watched the whole thing and no I'm not trying to defend him but this calling all these really getting on my nerves some of the stuff you say in the video were true.
@@sammyhorace7523 When he's preying on friends and strangers alike with creepy messages, I consider that grooming. If you don't, then it's still sexual harassment. I'm not bringing it up because he was a teenager, but the lack of transparency and sincerity in his apology. He leaves out context, and doesn't tell the full story. If you don't have the heart to tell your audience what you did to your victims, then I don't know what else to say other than you're not genuinely sorry.
Just put the fries in the bag Lil bro or you'll end up like tpiig lmaooooo
You said I should kill myself, and joined my server to try and ping me with slurs. Not to mention you're Dry's little fanboy constantly reporting in his server when something happens (like T Piig making a new server ages after that ended). I think you should be the one getting a job, and putting the fries in my bag, please and thank you.
People like you are the reason why the PvZ community isn't taken seriously
@Hey1mJay I don't think you want their fries, they prolly make them in their 4chan battle station (incel cave).
@@Hey1mJay Yea and you are you hurt by that? I frankly don't care lmao it's weird that you're even going out of your way to obsessively look over the things ive said behind your back, says much more about you then you realise, i could be hating on drybones but the evidences you've shown and the amount of bs you've thrown around without even reconsidering made me realise that you're a fraud worth being made fun of lmao, also I've heard that you have some allegations pointed towards yourself that you didn't adress and that you also deleted some hate comments from others, very suspicious honestly, since you seem to care so much about what I have to say maybe adress those and then I'll start respecting you 🤺🦅💠🚬
@@Kosta991 lol I'm not hurt, it's just an example of your immaturity. If you're going to send death threats because your beloved Plants vs. Zombies TH-camr got called out then that's a you problem, not mine. "But the evidence you've shown" nearly everything I've brought up has been shittily "defended" in his own response (which I've already called out leaving parts out to make himself not look as bad). Also, what allegations? The only thing I've heard of is me supposedly banning people from my server for "criticizing me" which comes from some random kid, and when I checked their ban reason, they made jokes about Adolf Hitler and Osama Bin Laden (which is a pretty justifiable ban in my own opinion). I haven't been deleting hate comments, otherwise the comment section would be a lot emptier. If a bud of yours or someone else's comment isn't showing up then that's TH-cam's filter doing its work. The exact comment (PJ's) that I addressed was literally one that was automatically filtered out and I couldn't find it on my own end, I had to dig for it in Dry's own server to address it. Why would I pick favorites of which hate comments to keep? That's stupid.
Man,i can't take it anymore....
The pvz community was a "relatively clean" one,without people getting called out or cancelled every 5 minutes. *but this year was another level* like bro.... i can't even list the amount of shit that happened,is this really the rabbid hole we are going to fall as a community???
I'm with you bro. I just want this to go to a stop already...
As a part of the community, this is terrible
Didn’t ask
@Pvz_dandelion as part of the community🤓☝🏻
What neiborville does to a mf
Ngl I’m bouta start ignoring all this shit, cuz unless he commited a crime or sexually groomed a minor as an adult, I just can’t be bothered to care.
Yeah, all I’m really seeing is dry bones being a flirty teenager who didn’t know boundaries and didn’t some uncomfortable topics because of it. But I’m not seeing any criminal serious stuff like blackmail and trying to find out peoples addresses. Because all of this feels like it’s being blown up to the criminal level.
@@Wispinthewoods1707 That's only one of the things he did. he manipulated people and he also is known for being a skid.
Yes while Dry was also a minor when he did such things, it's still wrong and the point of calling out Dry like this is to get an honest apology from him. Instead he chooses to ignore certain aspects and lie to his audience about the situation.
@@PuffDaFluff I don’t really care about this situation anymore but I remember him making a giant document going over the stupid things he’s done
@GreenBean199 Greetings, my brother in arms.
"I worked for Drybones, he's a FRAUD"
And then you have MorePEAgasus making 9 videos a day with the words "It's over!" In the thumbnail.
I watch both you and Dry’s videos, I like the content. But this drama just feels like a political debate at this point, murky on both sides, underhanded on both sides, communities at each other’s throats. I’m just gonna make like this didn’t happen, because I genuinely cannot keep up with this.
Unrelated but trying to defend himself calling you "a 20,000 TH-camr" is very immature, just like thinking that being 15 is an excuse to do stupid things
Oh hey G_Guy
I agree, he doesn't talk with the maturity of an adult.
@@G_guy I wholeheartedly agree man
That wasn't him "defending himself" it was him just saying that he wasn't a big youtuber I think
I dont know how smart yall expecting like a 14-15 year old kid to be a lot of kids end up saying or doing stupid stuff they regret in the future and calling bro a groomer for some things he said in like 2022 when he was like 15 is crazy work and on top of all this bro took accountability for all the stuff he said and addressed it like what more do yall want from bro💀
As they say in my country, "less fighting, more kisses." -- a random Argentine man
"guamazos por ahi apapachos por acá"
Sabias palabras de mi amigo que no se de donde las saco
Falkland isalnds
I know this comments section will just spiral into a Hall of The Mountain King montage
*treasure yeti intensifies*
Ztalemate moment
Didn’t ask
This is basically Avengers Civil War, but in PvZ Drama.
Seriously wtf happened to this community as time went on
the parents are fighting, stop them 😭
💀
3:33 Yes, and teenagers are prone to do stupid things that they'll regret in the future. i was one of them, but if not taking responsibility for that, DOSE have consequences drybones wasn't even saying that like ppl would just sweep that away he clearly hated that era of his life and took responsibility for that.
Yes I Was A Teenager Too. The problem is that he downplays it by leaving out context and not telling the true story. It's clear he's still embarrassed and ashamed of it otherwise you would actually tell the truth. It's not accountability if you scoot around the core subject and say a bunch of half-truths. It's not much better if your response to a video intentionally leaves out parts that leave holes in your argument.
@Hey1mJay I'm aware of that, but if it's uncomfortable for him at best, a professional is the best first him to explain it too. Not every story needs to be heard by all
@@iggypikminunderly782 I think you're forgetting he's not a victim. He is the abuser. If you are being creepy towards people and make an apology, I expect you to tell the truth and everything you did in that apology.
@Hey1mJay i was never saying he's a victim in any of this im just saying there's a side to every story and in this case I'm just saying for him it's best for a professional to help him best comeing from me cuz I don't normally give ppl like him a chance in this type of situation
Resson, why is he's not like riffraff, where there were absolutely 0 redeeming qualities with him but with drybones what he did was bad and I don't support but atleast he isn't "trying" to hide from it nor municipal his fans (unlike riffraff who did the same thing) point is there's alot of ppl in this community who like him and are aware of this stuff but rather than make one side satisfy with his departure i think it's best for him to seek help in coming with terms of this
Here comes the comment section!
Yup and i am still on both and neither side (I'm just skeptical of both sides)
@@meowcatjeff7721 Yea, me too. Especially after the dogpack404 situation with MrBeast. I'm just weary of both sides.
@@hangrychip I'm pretty much just here watching the drama unfold while everyone is screaming in flames and I'm just here sipping my cup of hot coco idk what's going on but something is definitely going on you feel me
@@meowcatjeff7721 Real. I pray that Drybones is innocent, but I feel like I'm just coping at this point.. Hey, even if we don't got Drybones, atleast we still got Wolfy.
Didn’t ask
Here before the comments get awful
same
Who wants popcorn? I'm giving handouts!
Lets see if dry bones does a response to this video or a response to your response of his response of your video
Everyone grab your popcorn and the Kernel-Pults!
Im ready bro 🍿
They husk hopped away :(
@@tinypvz8238 Did you atleast get some leftover butter from bigger better butter?
Does Caramel Popcorn count? I’ve played too much Caliginous Carnival to post this comment.
@@not_fake_ninja4976 Yea. I'm not sure if you'd want to put butter on it though.
“Can you imagine making a poor choice to then have hundreds, if not thousands of people, pointing fingers at you and not taking the time to consider that maybe YOU are not inherently evil?” People have to remember that we’re all just human. We’re not perfect beings incapable of wrongdoings. We all make mistakes, some bigger than others
Dry Bones viewer and sub here,he did infact say grooving in the livestream just to clear things up
I Literally Address That At The Very Beginning Of The Video Ok
@@Hey1mJay ok cool
1:06 you don’t think it ok to joke about cheating that ok but you can’t just show this and make people think dry a cheater.
In the first video, he never addressed these comments. In his response, he says they were jokes. I bring them up again because it's a stupid idea to make jokes about yourself being the leaker if you weren't while there were people saying it's you. That's what I was saying.
@@Hey1mJaythey were snarky replies like he does for all his haters
Wow, I’ve never seen a drama like this before with one side so poorly researched and put together and the other so dishonest and bad faith!
That's youtuber. It's a black and white mess. it's easy to dehumanize someone for what they said or done and the other ppl having regrets or none ever understanding you bc they are not you, and thats what i despise about moderne media just he said she said fake that say that
Yeah, I can agree with you in some ways.
The fake screenshot sent to me with Dry and Random DMing about Exotic supposedly sharing nudes was not able to verified due to Random basically leaving the PvZ community and becoming very inactive. I didn't have the opportunity to verify this, so others and myself made the decision to include it regardless since it "makes sense" given everything else they did. This was wrong and I should've not included it if I couldn't completely verify it.
Chilling and Grooming was a similar thing, someone else sent me the clip because it sounded to them like he said Chilling and Grooming. I listened to the clip, heard it, so I was under the impression that he was joking about the allegations. Chilling and Grooving is a common catchphrase in his streams, and while I have watched parts of some, I was never at points where he said this. I assumed he did say this because in my experiences watching parts, I haven't heard it, though I never stick around for long in his videos / streams because I can't tolerate his content style. This is also wrong, and I should've gone deeper into his community's culture.
This was compiled with a lot of stress in mind, since there was a level of urgency to get it out since T Piig made his video while mine was in production, and it hurt a lot of credibility regarding "Calling Drybones Out" since people would see it as me trying to clout chase, even though I've been here from the beginning starting in the Skid-B-Gone group, and all of the people involved like Ally, Brekko (BreakfastBrainz2), and the anonymous person are friends I hold closely and want to defend them.
He said Chilling and “Grooving” . Not grooming. I think you should check your eyes and ears before posting this nonsense drama video.
@not_fake_ninja4976 It's really disappointing that people will take this one part and use it to disqualify everything else I brought up. While it is fair to be iffy about any misinformation being shown, everything I've included was information I was 100% confident in showing. If something is somehow proven false, I will address it publicly.
@@Hey1mJaySadly, that's a common occurrence among humans. You could have the best arguments against someone but you mishear one tiny part of what they said, they will fixate only on that mistake and throw under the bus the rest of your speech.
I wish we could have a good ending where the whole truth is told and victims can finally feel like there was full accountability for what they suffered. But I doubt it, unfortunately.
hoping you don't end up like tpiig
This is step 3 step 4 is when the meltdown and denying begins
Would be funny tbh seeing how in tpiig video of false accusations jay said pea tuah pea on that thang making fun of him so it would be funny if jay also ends up like tpiig
@@iggypikminunderly782 yup
I think Jay’s copy of GW2 is still intact, so that’s a start
@@GNVS300 LOL
Honestly the best comparsion to the comment section is this the penguins from the mario movie throwing snowballs
do you yield...
@@Hey1mJay hehehe
I do not
As a Penguin, I can relate
LOL
Pvz: drama in neighborville
Better response than the first, but 4:39 he has said now that he is older he understands that it was wrong.
Yeah, I got around to reading his document and he explained what he could have done which sounds very remorseful. On one of the topics he even apologized about it so it's not like he's allergic to apologizing like the guy suggests. Also to his point about he didn't address everything and left out some things, sure he didn't get every detail out there, but it's very clear that he regrets everything. That's like saying a thief apologizing needs to also apologize to the people the product was denied of because they weren't able to buy it. It seems like a bunch of nonsense to me
For me, you personally lost credibility when you clearly didn't do your research and made false allegations. I can't take anything you say seriously and you are making claims like, "I didn't know" which is not an excuse in the slightest. If anything, I was young is a better excuse. While I don't think you need to be cancelled and I hate people sending death threats and stuff to you, it's hard for me to trust quite literally anything you say now. It feels like you might be the Verlisify of the PvZ community though
Edit: Ironically I did not do enough research either because reading rhe new doc debunking his really opened my eyes to the severity of these situations. I may still watch him for his opinions on things but I'm sorry you were right. My point about you should have done better research yourself still stands though (even though I didn't myself but still)
I can already picture this being said through the City 17 breencast.
hopefully you can talk with him, I think that Drybones has changed but he should be open to conversations and hopefully he does so.
This is more interesting than my ex breaking up with me 🙏
I have no idea what's happening anymore :(
I think we need a new pvz pc group that doesn't include these guys😬
notice how most of the rebuttals against jay by drybones and/or his fans are focusing on trying to discredit jay rather than actually replying to anything jay said. genuinely just makes it come off as if they didnt watch the video or read the doc or anything
Both parties are equally wrong. jay tried to add false evidence/ give and empty amout of research, which btw ppl hate that. And drybones has done/said things that i dont not agree but wont deny i was in a similar bout to him
@@iggypikminunderly782 Jay didn't "try" to add false evidence. If he tried, he wouldn't apologize for adding it.
@lamegamertime how is someone saying he did it and accusation not to mention that video was a re-upload bc there was false stuff that was clear as day that alone tells me enough that only thing that was legitimate was the stuff dry said when he was 15
@@iggypikminunderly782 There was *one* fake thing. That was the nudes screenshot. The grooming and chilling clip was a mistake on my end, but it wasn't "fake". Everything else was legitimate.
@@Hey1mJayone of the examples says "I couldn't find screenshots of this but I believe dry would do this "😭
Ngl this seems like a victim of SA projecting and taking his anger out on someone who admitted and regrets what they did as 15 year old, sure using his age as an excuse is wrong but people act like someone can’t mature and grow as a person and that the stuff they did in the past reflects who they are currently, like saying that he’s not taking responsibility for not reminding himself everyday of the terrible things he did in the past is he obviously doesn’t want to remember and trying to forget is kinda crazy.
This is genuinely so confusing. I have no idea whats even going on or who to believe anymore. Could you perhaps make a summary or something of your points?
The Drybones situation is insane
Oh boy it is drama time
In all seriousness, its a good thing you decided to stop talking about this. Because if you do, you'll end up like t pigg
... why? T Piig quit because he did this for fame, with a terrible argument, and then when that backfired, he quit.
If he continues to say something, I'll consider saying something. Maybe not a video, but perhaps another community post. Even after this, I'll still make my own content.
I entered this willingly in support of my friends.
@Hey1mJay No, what I meant was that covering this too much might cause even more drama to happen.
I apologize if this was taken the wrong way, drama is just something no one wants to get into.
Regardless, I respect you actually researching this instead of coming to quick conclusions.
I wasn't expecting too see pvz drama
oh boy, can’t wait for the pvz fanbase to spiral into the same levels of insanitized stupidity of the art commentary community.
joy 😋
Man this is a kid's game can we get past the drama and claiming people likes touching kids thing. I used to be very invested in drama it was a very toxic. Let's just forget about this pretend like it didn't even happen.
I know I'm very late but let's just listen to me anyway. It makes me very depressed that my childhood has turned into this.
I would say so but this dude makes his claims and clearly doesn't do his research which is a very jerk move to do.
You are telling me he made many lies upon himself, and i fell for it easy.
I can't believe I've been supporting a predator the whole time, and now i feel absolutely disgusted by what i just did on your other video by trying to defend him when, in reality i should've been supporting you and GabrielOflTM.
But rn the damage has already been done. Two fractions are fighting over nothing. [just like my enemies during my time in the 60s] And it's only gonna get worse as the time goes on, unless we start exposing dry and the other predators more, than perhaps this community does have a chance to rise up again.
Jesus this all so meaningless. Discord is a worthless application, it can't hurt you. Using discord and not expecting freaky shit is like walking outside in a thunderstorm and expecting to not get wet.
I... what? "Using Discord and not expecting freaky shit" ????
I think a TH-camr with a decent following that's displayed creepy behavior towards the people they knew closely is not okay? Are we suddenly not allowed to hold people accountable for crossing boundaries? Genuinely, how ignorant do you have to be to say something as stupid as this.
@@UncleMasterChefOBdaGodOrSumIDK What the fuck
Starting drama is ballsy to do if you arent doing nearly enough research into your evidence.
This is unrelated. But what game is the backround footage from?
Zuma, one of Pop Cap's other ips from the era the original pvz was made
@@scribbles24Thanks, bro!
@hangrychip no problem
4:47 sorry that your friend went through that but it still doesn't give you the right to falsified accusations and then stich this in there, you basically made 2 lies and a truth vid, and when you have more lies then truths all become lies.
To be honest both parties have really good arguments, however drybones, keeps doing the “oh I was 15 I was dumb, didn’t know what I was doing”. That is not taking accountability, he should just respond genuinely to the drama and actually apologize correctly this time, but don’t apologize to the audience, apologize to your victims, dry
he did that, watch the video
@ I took the time to watch all the response videos and I realize that you are right and most of what I said isn’t fair. I still think dry shouldn’t be responding to these kind of videos even if they’re true or not, it jus brings a bunch of negativity into the community, for example if you look into the top comment of this video, you can see that jay got sent death threats. I don’t care if jay’s in the right or not but no one and I mean NO ONE deserves to get sent death threats.
What I now come to realize is that neither dry or jay are in the wrong, it’s both of theirs communities that blew their whole situation out of proportions
after watching this video kind of makes me confused on my perception of drybones now.
Reget is a positive emotion not a negative that what jay dosnt understand what im getting he never had experience drybones had when he was 14/15, whatever i was in a similar bout to dry it may not excuse what i said back then but at least i didn't ignore them or say i didn't see anything wrong about that hes aware that was bad he hates it im not defending his actions but at least he knows they happened
@@iggypikminunderly782i had a fucking stroke reading that
@@CattoAnimates117it might be cus my body failing today but tbh i had half a lobotomy reading that
good luck in this war, Jay...
Called it. VR owes me 20 dollars.
this is becoming stupid now. .-.
4:35 and bet you that's what he was trying to say bc news flash teens are proud to say or do things bc of a group trying to be cool so they dont feel left out and if he said that you could be saying this equally as negative to this no amount of words makes anyone look good in that situation
PvZ Fandom Civil War going CRAAAAZY 😭😭😭😭
Zuma Intro 🔥
hi yoko !
Hey Jay I do respect you trying to stand up for your friends and plz don’t take this the wrong way. But listen this Fight isn’t worth it trust me on this I had to deal with similiar stuff on different Gaming community’s trying to fight back for kinda similiar reasons your doing right now. But this is going to just end up extreamly badly for both sides an even your friends if this keeps going on. What I’m trying to say is there may be more better ways to handle this cause it feels like everything is to hazy in both responses with some feelings being either to hidden and not to much evidence to support. I hope I didn’t hugely offend you but I’m just sharing some experience so you don’t fall down a similar path. Trust on this plz it’s not good for mentality.
I do appreciate your concern for my health but I'd like to ask how is there not much evidence? There's him creeping in the DMs of 4 different people alone, that should be enough to prove this behavior isn't a one-time thing?
While your evidence does show proof of them being harassed i feel like you could’ve added a little bit more to it I feel like there was much much more in the topics that were shown in the video when it came to the screenshots an conversations between dry and the victims. The more evidence you gather the more better you make your point. What I’m trying to say is show more of the conversations instead of some parts of it you know? But then again idk if that’s all the parts to it. But you do make good points in this video to on points he refused to elaborate or apoglized to anyone he harassed.
Plants vs zombies pedophile drama is crazy💀💀
He's not a pedophile, he was a minor at the time. It's still grooming, but he isn't a pedophile. Even if I don't like him, I don't want real slander against him.
@@Hey1mJay I don't think it counts as grooming
did you forgot that he have a studer
Grab the popcorn everyone..
im just gonna say W for playing zuma
Nah, dont worry jay, ur going to make an actual expose video, u have to ask the actual people who said they leaked it, maybe zaboss?
I hopes so not the best first impression for this channel for me but i do see someone who is willing to call these ppl out
@@iggypikminunderly782 trust me bro, im being called out as a groomer, and there the same as drybones, I already take accountability and Just f*ed off
Bro, you are not tpiig just let it go
I have no words
Uh-oh.
So basically this “response” was just you doubling down and not admitting your mistakes on the chin
I literally acknowledged the clip, which is a mistake. But everything else? Genuine proof. It's not a black and white situation if he's purposely leaving out context.
So there was like 3 ppl saying that dry is a bad guy, AND THERE IS STILL SOME 5 YEARS OLD KIDS THAT STILL THINK THAT HE IS A NICE GUY
I'm starting to not trust either, I'm gonna be honest.
@@Pvz_dandelion Don't trust T Piig's video. That one was made with the intent to leach off his name.
There are literally SO MANY cases in history where an innocent person has been brought down be enough people accusing them. But go ahead and”if enough people accuse then the person is automatically bad.”
Yours was too lmao@@Hey1mJay
@@Kosta991 LOL ok. I know the victims and was here from the beginning. Also, why the hell would I want to be known for this? I like making videos on games I like, and these videos aren't even monetized so I'm not gaining anything from it.
Wait you guys just found out he's a groomer 😭
@@CocaelmanL I've known for the longest time, just never spoke up about it on TH-cam.
@Hey1mJay same honestly man sorry this is happening I hope Drybones can seek some help and turn over a new leaf
cool zumba gameplay
btw im sorry, not sure what but yeah
bro is lying simply for the views at this point, PUT THE FRIES IN THE BAG
yooo surfdude!! wth drama...
Ok
watch the other videos before you make shit like this
lol
No I'm getting tired of this people calling out each other for someone I'm going to dislike this video because of this calling out each other instead of calling him out you should have at least talk to him first before you're making assumptions.
I don't think you watched it. Both me and my friend, Brekko/BreakfastBrainz2, tried to. He didn't accept our friend requests so we continued without his involvement.
I can understand that dry make mistakes but just because he said some weird stuff. I mean that doesn't mean that he's automatically a groomer and yeah we all make mistakes the important thing is that we can fix them.
@@Hey1mJayI watched the whole thing and no I'm not trying to defend him but this calling all these really getting on my nerves some of the stuff you say in the video were true.
@@sammyhorace7523 When he's preying on friends and strangers alike with creepy messages, I consider that grooming. If you don't, then it's still sexual harassment. I'm not bringing it up because he was a teenager, but the lack of transparency and sincerity in his apology. He leaves out context, and doesn't tell the full story. If you don't have the heart to tell your audience what you did to your victims, then I don't know what else to say other than you're not genuinely sorry.
@Hey1mJay I definitely do think he should I apologize to the fans for saying weird stuff he's always a weird guy but yeah sometimes he go to far.
i want dryobnes to be in the wrong just because i hate his stuttering
Stuttering is a stupid reason to hate on someone, but anything else he's been accused of. Sure.