Titan Rocket Engine Test - 60fps High Speed Camera, 1964, Gemini Program, Titan II, LR-87

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  • High speed (64 fps) camera view of a Titan engine test on June 17, 1964, here presented at real speed. Sound is reconstructed from a Titan II launch and a water sound suppression system test. The LR-87 engine motors can be seen gimballing.
    Original footage from • (1964) Titan Engine Te...
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    The LR87 was an American liquid-propellant rocket engine used on the first stages of Titan intercontinental ballistic missiles and launch vehicles. Composed of twin motors with separate combustion chambers and turbopump machinery, it is considered a single unit. The LR87 first flew in 1959.
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ความคิดเห็น • 58

  • @CalvinMaclure
    @CalvinMaclure 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Say what you will, but those hypergolic fumes sure burn a beautiful blue!

    • @edwardpate6128
      @edwardpate6128 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      As a kid watching Gemini launches live that is one of the things I loved! The Titan II just one of my favorites!

    • @katniss2672
      @katniss2672 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey Calvin

    • @CalvinMaclure
      @CalvinMaclure 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@katniss2672 🤣🤫

    • @apollosaturn5
      @apollosaturn5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, they actually burned with a transparent, very pale, yellow flame. In other engines it burns with a pale, pinkish flame. It has to do with the fuel-to-oxidizer mixture ratio.

  • @Lion_McLionhead
    @Lion_McLionhead 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They always looked like shock absorbers.

  • @NekoAerospaceSFS
    @NekoAerospaceSFS 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    best engine ever

  • @ahalverson1122
    @ahalverson1122 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    That’s some really fast gimbaling

  • @foxmccloud7055
    @foxmccloud7055 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I love the smell of nitrogen tetroxide in the morning.

    • @PowerScissor
      @PowerScissor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm a Aerozine 50 man myself, but I wont judge.

    • @saundby
      @saundby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's kind of a sharp sweet tang, whereas A50, MMH, and UDMH smell like clover. If you smell it, you've been overexposed. Move crosswind before your foreman has you doing paperwork and sends you to the company doctor so they can cover their ass from a lawsuit. :D

  • @dks13827
    @dks13827 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Amazing what they did way back then.

    • @RetroSpaceHD
      @RetroSpaceHD  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They do engine tests today. SLS did something quite similar not too long ago!

    • @bboi1489
      @bboi1489 ปีที่แล้ว

      We've been in the future for awhile now.

  • @winstonsmith478
    @winstonsmith478 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Starter cartridge sound begins at 0:09. "The cartridge was a solid propellant and burned approximately 1 second, producing approximately 2000 psia to the TPA turbines." I've never been able to find an image of one of those. Anyone?

    • @bravodelta3083
      @bravodelta3083 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's one of the can-shaped items hanging between the engine, but the image isn't clear enough to tell exactly which one sadly. If they're anything like the UK gas generators for Vulcan's it's literally just a dumpy can filled with pyro material. Cool way of starting a turbine though!

    • @sidv4615
      @sidv4615 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bravodelta3083 even the b52s used those shotgun type pellets

    • @RetroSpaceHD
      @RetroSpaceHD  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, the cameras were only turned on after touchdown.

    • @saundby
      @saundby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sidv4615 No, the gas generator on LR-87 is a large can, not a small start cart. It's initiated with a small tube shaped initiator filled with alcloa pellets.

    • @saundby
      @saundby 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The gas generator is a large can, usually painted a sort of beige-brown color, about 16 inches long and about 14 inches in diameter. It's not much to look at. It sits up by the turbopumps. I used to test those, and both before and after I worked on testing LR-87 and 97 engines.

  • @moboutmen
    @moboutmen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    We had some great names for our rockets!

  • @bravodelta3083
    @bravodelta3083 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Excellent work and footage but aww, no *BOO-eee-OOP!* turbine startup sound :)

    • @winstonsmith478
      @winstonsmith478 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      There's a hint of it in the dubbed sound taken from a launch. Many launch videos don't have it for some reason.

    • @RetroSpaceHD
      @RetroSpaceHD  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sound was taken from a period Titan launch. Most of those recording were taken from a distance so I guess that's why the BOOP is low. I'm aware that up close such engine noises should be louder than the BRUUMMM! But I'm limited by the available recordings....

    • @RetroSpaceHD
      @RetroSpaceHD  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'd say it's because it was recorded from distance, and at lower levels because of the loud volume as the rocket ascends. It's possible to mix sources, but that can be misleading unless you have a good accurate master recording to go by.... As far as I know such recordings exist only for Saturn V and the Shuttle.

  • @toomanybears_
    @toomanybears_ 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I got a nitric oxide burn of my sinuses once. Two weeks of sleeping with a vaporizer and blowing bloody boogers all day and night. No fun.

  • @knobdikker
    @knobdikker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love that red fuming nitric acid leak on the right hand engine side!

    • @soumyojitpal3399
      @soumyojitpal3399 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I thought that was N2O4 ?

    • @saundby
      @saundby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's N2O4, and its Ox-rich exhaust from the turbopump, not a leak.

    • @CoriePodschelne
      @CoriePodschelne 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@saundby Respectfully disagree - Turbopump exhaust is straight down between the two combustion chambers, not in the direction you can see the visible N2O4. #16 in diagram below:
      heroicrelics.org/info/titan-i/titan-i-stage-1-engines/titan-i-stage-1-engine-subassembly.jpg

  • @penguin44ca
    @penguin44ca 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You mean sped up. High speed footage would be slow motion

  • @akonisho
    @akonisho 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    POV: when you want more fuel tanks in sfs😂

  • @endertony2097
    @endertony2097 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing video!

  • @Leo.Wirabuana
    @Leo.Wirabuana 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is awesome !! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @IvorMektin1701
    @IvorMektin1701 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    At 2x speed, you can sorta hear the Titan whoop at startup.

  • @knobdikker
    @knobdikker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Only liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen have a higher specific impulse greater than red fuming nitric acid (nitrogen tetroxide) and hydrazine.

    • @the18thdoctor3
      @the18thdoctor3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Uh, no. Even at this early stage, there were RO-1/LOX engines with Isps well over 300 seconds, compared with the LR-87’s 290.

    • @saundby
      @saundby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@the18thdoctor3 We managed to get over 320s with later pump-fed engines at Aerojet, and increase the efficiency of the LR-87 and 97 through their lifetime, though it was the upper stages where we really put our effort as atmosphere and gravity losses are enough that pushing efficiency on the Titan engines didn't pay off. Transtage, Transtar, XLR-132 and XLR-134 got the attention to Isp. XLR-134 set a storable Isp record that stands to this day, as well as longest firing of a storable engine.

  • @ryelor123
    @ryelor123 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love the chemically dirty look of Titan 2 engines.

  • @Tye2000_YouTube_official
    @Tye2000_YouTube_official 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello

  • @foxmccloud7055
    @foxmccloud7055 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ladies and gentlemen, the launch of the James Webb Space Telescope is scheduled for December 22nd at 7:20am EST from French Guiana on top of the Ariane 5 rocket.
    I believe that the engines used on the Titan II were later used in the Titan III, Titan 34D, and Titan IV.

    • @abundantYOUniverse
      @abundantYOUniverse 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you sure you got permission from your parents first?

    • @saundby
      @saundby 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, uprated versions of these were used on Titan IV with some design changes. The Titan III versions (including 34D) were pretty much the same engine. The Gemini versions (which these are, this test looks like it's on stand E-1 rather than G-3) had modifications for being man rated.

  • @saywhat1078
    @saywhat1078 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bwoop!

  • @SomeRandomGuy_id
    @SomeRandomGuy_id ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank You for this post !! awesome LR87

  • @archaicamusement3871
    @archaicamusement3871 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Someone knows why the engines move? That it helps to redirect the rocket?

    • @override7486
      @override7486 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To test gimbals/system itself? No use of them in such test and not trsl flight.

    • @archaicamusement3871
      @archaicamusement3871 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@override7486 ahhh. Thanks. Maybe they move cos of the power. Maybe is like a vibration

    • @nguyencanhgiang2414
      @nguyencanhgiang2414 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@override7486 yea I think this is a gimbal test too. The duration of the test was very short, and the gimbal movement of each nozzle was very well-synchronize

    • @RetroSpaceHD
      @RetroSpaceHD  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's a gimbal test. Similar motions will guide the rocket in flight. Here they simply following a test pattern (to/from the camera, left/right from the camera, etc).

    • @RetroSpaceHD
      @RetroSpaceHD  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They are not following a flight profile, just testing the full(?) gimbal range between both engines. See how they move mirroring to each other at times.

  • @twmax4137
    @twmax4137 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:09 turbopump sound

  • @spacefreeman
    @spacefreeman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Agent orange ... 🔥

    • @RetroSpaceHD
      @RetroSpaceHD  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, that orange stuff is nasty!

    • @saundby
      @saundby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      N204 turns into nitric acid when it connects with water, like in your lungs. The effects are bad, but very different from those of agent orange, which has biological effects that can be very subtle and last for decades. N2O4 does all its damage right away, then is neutralized with no long term biological effects other than the damage it does to tissues. Don't breath it, and if your skin gets exposed, jump in a safety shower and keep it running for a long time.
      At least it doesn't have the high surface tensions of the hydrazine compounds, which sink into your skin and burn deeply, as well has having long term effects on the liver, and in the case of UDMH long term biological effects increasing the chances of cancer.
      All that orange, by the way, probably represents about a half a cup of N2O4 or less. A little makes a lot of cloud.

    • @bobcoats2708
      @bobcoats2708 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@saundbyAppreciate all of your insights!