The interaction between humans and dolphins is a really interesting topic to me. In Brazil, a group of dolphins developed a symbiotic relationship with fisherman with no training at all. The dolphins swim in a circular motion around the fisherman, forcing fish into the nets. The fisherman than reward the dolphins with some of the fish. But what is really fascinating is that this behavior is being spread across multiple generations of humans and dolphins.
This is similar to dolphin hunting habits out in the wild as well, where dolphins would move around a school of fish, compacting it into a 'bait ball' where they would then take turns feeding.
"The dolphin is then rewarded with verbal praise and fish." The single most important sentence of this episode. Gotta make sure the animals are getting their lovings and treats.
“For instance, on the planet Earth, man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much-the wheel, New York, wars and so on-whilst all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man-for precisely the same reasons.” ― Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
I was so disappointed to find out that mankind was only the 3rd smartest lifeform on the planet. I can accept that dolphins are number 2, but the mice being the most intelligent just because they happen to be trans-dimensional beings searching for the question of 42 just doesn't seem fair. Thank you, and always carry a towel.
I was so gratified to hear you draw the distinction between atmospheric and aquatic decibels. Nobody ever does that -- instead they go for the cheap wow factor. Nice work!
I just looked it up and it appears the 2 fundamental differences are that the reference level is different (decibels are 20log(x/xref)) with air being 20x the level used in water, and water having a higher impedance than air. Apparently a rough conversion is to subtract 62dB from the value in water. The reference value for air is based on human hearing (an inconsistent but understandable reference point) so I'm curious why the underwater reference point would be different?
@@jasonreed7522 AFAIK the conversion of subtracting 61.5dB from the water value is to get an equivalent power-per-area of air decibels, but I'm not sure how well that equates to actual human perception (i.e. whether something 50dB-air sounds as loud as something 111.5dB in water). Regardless, I think the reason they don't reference the same pressure level is just because AFAIK water pressure dB aren't typically used to characterize perceived loudness but rather for engineering purposes (sonar, bathymetry, etc). It would be nice if there was a standardized conversion so you could say "the sperm whale issues calls as loud as an equivalent of 120dBA-SPL in air" but I don't know if the physics of sound perception underwater are even reliable enough ... maybe your bone structure, head size and density, whether you have little bubbles trapped in your ear canal, air trapped in your sinuses, etc, make it wildly variable? Or maybe you just subtract 61.5 and that's good enough?
The dolphins decided to leave to explore other "employment opportunities". As smart as they are, they are unaware of the concept of giving "two week notice".
I saw a documentary on TH-cam recently about how large of a brain whales have. They have emotions, memories, intelligence and feelings. They can communicate with other species. Imagine if we can break the language barrier and communicate with them. No ship or plane would ever be lost. All the sea bottoms and underwater mountain ranges could be explored. It would be a major breakthrough in science and perhaps even change mankind forever.
That a few dolphins or belugas choose to quit their jobs and swim around freely (if that is what happened) is not necessarily a sign of bad treatment. These are individual animals. Like with humans, not all dolphins like the same things, so dissatisfaction by some does not automatically mean dissatisfaction by all or even most. The fact that they can just swim away when they are on a mission sounds like a good thing to me, and a sign that life with the Navy is at least alright for these animals.
You don't see to realize these AWOL animals escaping are wearing harnesses that will cause them to drown to death if they are entangled underwater. Those fishermen saved that Navy beluga whale's life by removing the harness. Animals in the military are enslaved and their lives are put at risk when deployed into war zone. They are not enlisted out of choice, they are enslaved.
The way i see it it's like a cat. Sure some run away and choose to be feral. But that doesn't mean most of them are unhappy living with us. It's individual choice. Something dolphins are smart enough to make and understand
It sounds just like having a job, do weird sometimes arbitrary/arcane tasks in exchange for food, shelter, medical care, and scheduled downtime. And since the dolphins can run away whenever they are on missions and instead (almost) always come back it sounds like they are not dissatisfied with their current employment. (More than most humans can say about their jobs)
Great video. I was a Navy EOD Tech and worked with sea lions and dolphins. We didn't dive with the sea lions, but the dolphins on the west coast were a trip to dive with. 400 pound animal turns at you from 100 yards and comes right at you in a couple seconds then bends away at the last because you gave him a bad spot on his last dive marking a target. No more thumds down after that.
I think all if not most working animals want to be working. They might quit later or retire earlier than us humans were planning, but I do believe they wanted to and found it rewarding. When selecting animals to start training, there are certain characteristics that you look for. As you start training, lots (if not most) of them "fail" and go on to live whatever life they would have had. Either they lose interest in their training, something happens, I even saw one dog training to be a police dog that "failed" because they were too friendly so they lived their days as a regular pet. My own service dog basically made it clear she only wanted to work part time but that she would be there for me. Working animals handlers HAVE to be so in sync with their animals that they understand them, and animals that are smart enough to be trained to work are smart enough to learn to communicate with you, in their own way. There is a huge amount of mutual respect by necessity and by nature. I heard a story about a drug dog at the airport, apparently he alerted at pizza, and his handler went "yeah buddy, I know pizza confuses you" and rewarded him anyway. I let my dog do pretty much what she wants, but she knows when I'm being serious. Working animals are absolutely amazing
The one thing we need to be mindful of is anthropomorphism in saying that animals are "happy" is very limited in it's meaning because we cannot actively ask them and a direct yes or no answer, at least for now. Dolphins are near sapient, not just sentient, but sapient in how they behave and interact. There is to me at least sufficient evidence with how they will have regional dialects and can convey abstract thought information through vocal communication alone with each other. We should also be aware that even if the Navy leaves the pens open at night for them go out and socialize in a larger area, we feed them and give them shelter and safety from predation and other things would harm them in the wild. So it is not unreasonable that with their level of intelligence that they would naturally return to not have to deal with the constant need to hunt and monitor for predators and other threats. I have seen and heard of even wild caught captive snakes doing it, because most animals are smart enough to know when they have found a way to ensure safety and survival. I don't mind animals being used in the service of helping keep people safe and to do their jobs, but also need to being mindful to not use them for actively harming other people, we should never use them to fight our battles. I think it would be more useful to pour money into research and develop into a sonar system that could work just as well as a dolphins so that we wouldn't have to use them much how vehicles replaces horses when it comes to people fighting wars. The other thing to consider though is that Navy sonar can and does disrupt wild populations of dolphins and other marine life to a very significant degree, and in some cases actually deafens individual members and groups. Being dolphins are far more sensitive to their environment, and humans are one of the most disruptive forces to have ever existed.
I never really like how people assign regular working animals things like happiness and imprisonment. Dolphins can make up there own mind if they want to stay or swim away. Now I don't support any animal training that humans won't do. If you ask animal to risk it's life then you better be able to do the same. Also I think employment of marine animals is underutilized. Dogs have all kinds of jobs, marine animals can save many lifes like have Dolphins patrol beaches and help save drowning people as dolphin can reach person way faster then life guard or train them to find resent sunken ships/airplane. Heck you probably could train some species of sharks to find objects/people. Animals have so much more to offer in cooperation with humans.
I’m not exactly sure how these dolphins are recruited, but they do seem to be enjoying their self and seem like they could leave if they really wanted to. Its too bad we can’t better communicate with these amazing and highly intelligent creatures.
We can atleast do some basic sign language, granted they are limited in their ability to make signs back at us do to their lack of hands. While it would be awesome to have a vocalization to vocalization translator (like the universal translator in star trek) this assumes that: 1. They have a genuine language. 2. Our 2 languages share concepts that can be translated between. (Concepts like fish, food, water, self, other, math, grammar, death) 3. Neither language is too complex for the other species to grasp. 4. That dolphins actually want to talk back to us. This isn't to say its impossible, various animal species have complex communications, shown emotions (including grief, spite, and trolling), and some captive primates can be taught sign language. (With 1 gorilla who's name i forgot signing the word "sad" over and over as it grieved the loss of its child)
Working with dolphins in the navy they are happy and love talking to us we have short conversation with them and we even let them decide which fish they want! They love what they do and know what they do helps and saves there human friends not to mention they love naking us happy too.
I live near (20mins tiny boat ride) an island where Dolphines and Turtles always swim by or stay near its beach, shallow waters. they are way smarter than we think they are, even though they are wild and not trained at all, they exhibit intelligent behaviors
Dolphins and porpoises have a history of helping humans, all without "training" or any obvious incentives. This same cross-species altruism is seen between humans and many other animals, especially dogs, but surprisingly frequently with dolphins and porpoises. Any species which is natively benign and curious, cooperative and communicates demonstrates obvious intelligence.
They didn't predict it exactly, they studied the real-world history of U.S. and Soviet dolphin training programs that happened many decades before even the first Command & Conquer game was released in 1995.
@@metanumia fun fact - where I live during Soviet time they used to have dolphins with spikes(as described in the video) and in usual Russian styles they were full of poison, not just CO2
Well, how effective would that be? There was a convention after WW1 which indirectly lead to WW2 and Germany broke every single rule, only for the allies to do the same.
@@protoretro1290 Conventions are different to peace treaties. Many arms reductions and treaties on the laws of war have been enacted and well followed. In fact the treaty on the prohibition of chemical warfare is a spectacular example of it, after ww1 it was agreed that chemical weapons lead simply to mass casualties for no discernible gain, and so it was agreed no parties would use it, as a result nazi germany nor the allies deployed chemical weaponry in the battlefield, as result millions were saved from death and disfigurement that would have befallen them under ww1 conditions. I think Wikipedia has some good introductory material on arms reductions treaties, particularly the one on prohibiting chemical warfare. (Obviously nothing is perfect but 98/100 people saved is still a pretty big deal)
The military also uses animals on how to deal with wounds.. pretty horrific especially when the animals are not killed humanely first. And then there's also the damage done by the use of sonar and weapon testing in the oceans and the impact that has on marine life.
ok love this channel and i think it would be cool to have 2 hosts, one can throw to the other and give the show a tonal shift leading to increased average view time
"It's impossible to know what the dolphins are thinking" They're actually crazy intelligent. Like, can-communicate-with-humans-easily intelligent. I'm sure their handlers know how they feel about what they do.
Ever since I learned how intelligent dolphins were by nature, I've imagined them as these more evolved creatures who tolerate us and even look out for us once and a while🤷🏾♂️😁
They *do* look out for us, sometimes. There are numerous stories of marine mammals protecting humans from sharks. I personally think they simply recognise a fellow intelligent animal, and feel a kinship of sorts - like we do to them.
@2:35 that is located in Sarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegovina. That wooden structure behind the pigeon is a water fountain called Sebilj that is of historical importance.
I’ve always wondered if freshwater fish like catfish can be trained to search for things like missing people in muddy bodies of water. Catfishes’ entire bodies are full of sensory organs and they’re a lot more intelligent than we think, and I know that some cats like clarias sp. and my own synodontis eupterus can be trained to do simple tricks
Lets face it, if the dolphins decided they didn't like their work, they would just fuck right off with the equipment once in open water. They're smart enough to determine whether or not the mutual benefit is good enough to comply or not. Dolphins are extremely intelligent animals, Orca's probably being the best example of this as they have the capability to recognize themselves in mirrors and form their own cultures and languages. Dolphins have also been known to develop symbiotic relationships with fishermen of their own according, forming a mutually beneficial relationship for both parties that continues over generations. Something that was explained in more detail by another commenter. These are highly intelligent animals, rivaling humans in many ways so being able to engage in the kind of work they're trained for might actually be enjoyable and enriching for these animals. It's nothing like being stuck in enclosures at zoos and aquariums. These animals get to experience open water and constant enrichment as they work.
Fisherman go out and the dolphins help net the fish. Then share the catch with the fishermen. I can’t remember where is saw the video but it’s the sweetest thing. Dolphins in their own habitat not captive nothing like that. So cool to watch
I work at a facility that keeps dolphins in a huge ocean pen, and I can tell you that because they're very intelligent they love both physical and mental stimulation. Being trained to search for mines they would love so much but morally???? I'm not so sure.
Sorry for deleting the first comment, but I did a little more research and I think I see where the confusion is. In the electromagnetic spectrum, a higher frequency always equals higher energy (at least I'm not aware of any exceptions). However in acoustics the level of energy is represented as amplitude, not frequency. Instead, frequency represents the pitch. That said, in a situation with two acoustic signals of the same amplitude with different frequencies, the higher frequency signal will have more energy. So the total energy of the signal is kind of a sum of the two parameters. So really it depends on what the submarine in question is capable of, and what it's objective is. If a sub isn't trying to be particularly stealthy, they are probably going to be using sonar instead of radar.
@@reflect7559 actually sound waves (and other longitudinal waves) have pressure amplitude directly proportional to frequency. P=(2(pi)BSf)/v , where 'P' is pressure amplitude of sound wave, 'B' is bulk modulus of fluid, 'S' is particle displacement amplitude, 'v' is propagation velocity of sound wave in the fluid, and 'f' is the frequency of sound wave. So if the frequency increases the amplitude also increases, they are interrelated and not two separate parameters.
@@reflect7559 Also RADAR cannot be used underwater as the EMW of even longer wavelengths (like microwaves) are easily absorbed or scattered within very short distances. Which is why SONAR is always used underwater (and in other high density fluids, for example getting image of organs, fetus in pregnant woman etc.)
I learned something new today. Thanks! I'm an audio engineer and producer, so in my practical experience the two have always been separated. Brief research probably wasn't going to fix that misunderstanding. Its interesting and useful to know how interconnected they really are! Also thanks for the nifty formula. Always handy to have maths like that in your toolbelt
@@reflect7559 no problem man. Coincidentally I was studying the sound waves chapter in physics at the same time this video was released. Audio engineer and producer is a cool job! You probably know more about sound intuitively than I do lol.
If I may ask, how is training a dolphin or seal different from the start of training horses or dogs? These animals are cared for by their handlers, rewarded for their work, and not put into danger unnecessarily. Animals have many tasks in many roles in the armed forces. Falconers and hawks keep birds away from runways to prevent birdstrikes on aircraft, cats were used on ships to kill rats and other rodents that were a danger to food, water, and the health of the crew. Now if the animals were being abused to otherwise mistreated in human care then maybe there would be an argument, but if they are returning on their own will.
I know in the US military, all animals in service are 1 rank above their handlers, so if the handlers are caught abusing the animals, they can be tried in a military court.
If a hawk flies away from its falconer, it can survive on its own. If a Navy Marine Mammal wearing a harness goes AWOL, the harness can entangle underwater and the animal will drown and die. That beluga whale's life was saved by removing the harness. Dolphins are wild animals and not domesticated or semi domesticated as your examples you mentioned. They were forced into military service for wars of another species and can die when deployed into a war zone. Falconery has been around for centuries, but dolphins have only been in captivity since the 1940s. Domestic animals have been selectively bred for thousands of years to do what the do.
@@davidreames8752 keep in mind several pods of dolphins have been fishing partners with various human communities for thousands of years. The basic process being that the dolphins herd the fish into a dense ball and then fisherman use nets to catch both the dolphins and the fish. The dolphins remain calm and the fisherman untangle and release them before giving them a share of the catch. Dolphins are perfectly capable of choosing to work with humans because its a net benefit for the animal. And an orca near Australia/New Zealand cooperated with whalers with a similar arrangement where the orca lead the whalers to sperm whales and then was rewarded with the organs of the harvested whale. (This ended when a dumb newcomer attacked the orca instead of following the rules)
I don't think anyone that hasn't worked with an animal can say if it's content or not. There is happiness in nature. It's either content and joy or pain and suffering. Those dolphins and sea lions have the opportunity to leave unlike some other animals. They are let free. I see them as i see falcons and falconers. They know how to hunt. They know how to fly. They can leave and some do but many return. It's this deep connection between trainer and their animal. A partnership. It's often ppl say working dogs are imprisoned or unhappy and while some have issues related tp the job they did many of them enjoy it and often miss it. The dolphins are sentient enough to see mutual benefit. They choose not to leave when they have the opportunity. Yea some leave vut some dogs run away from home too. Doesn't mean all dogs are suffering as pets. It's antromorphisation to say an animal is happy or unhappy as an outside viewer. It's trough the animals action and behaviour we judge their mentality. No abused animal will come back to the abuser. Expecially one of high intelligence. They are trusted enough to do a work consistently which tells me they find what they do meaningful. There is nothing more to life than that. They are not "unhappy" therefore they are content and "happy". What is the difference between training those and a falcon? Or a dog? Or a horse? They all do wht we ask them because we took the time to make the animal understand and connect to it. We make the animal care fpr our satisfaction. I ride horses. If i miss days because of weather they get agitated. They can go out. They can run as much as they want. Yet they are annoying they don't go out on rides. Although they know i will be on their back. They will have reigns and saddles that they will maybe see scary things. They let me ride them because we build trust. Trust that i will protect them and they will be safe. I see no difference between that and the dolphins and their marine officers. Or a police dog and it's handler. It's about trust. The trust the animal gives us of being safe and rewarded. And our trust in it of doing it's job
When a conflict comes every marine mammal can be suspected of being a trained operative and killed out of precaution. So that is the moral trouble of militarizing animals. The animals dont realize the risk we are setting them up for, only that we give them food for some task. Like a drug dealer paying a 11 year old child 20 dollars to make a dangerous delivery for them so they thermselves do not risk harm. Is that moral? How is feeding an animal to perform war duties any different? It wants food and doesnt understand the larger perspective or consequences, so accepts the reward gladly. Like the child delivering drugs for the gangs. I work for a university in marine mammal research and I served in the army, but I do NOT support involving anything innocent, including intelligent mammals, into human wars. The animals will only die for it, even the ones not involved at all. Thank you for the informative video. The US military has told the marine mammal research community it dropped its programs with dolphins ... Obviously the russians use belugas because they are arctic adapted and just as smart, for their ambitions there. Its sick.
Has anyone tried or thought of using them to find the lost MH370? If they can locate mines, why not sunk planes? Seems like they could outdo technology on this!
Man is the smartest animal ever Dolphin let's you do all the work, build boats, docks, ports, harbors, maintain the boats, build equipment, get a crew, risk nature all for a couple fish. Dolphin goes "eeeeee" Gets fed. Who is playing who lmao
Sailor: Okay we're gonna have the dolphin use it's sonar to- Dolphin: Excuse me we call it echolocation Sailor: Dolphin: Also we want the same pay as the seals, I heard through the water one they took out that terrorist, we saved your ship Sailor: They can talk Dolphin: Oh crap I mean *squeeeeeak*
I signed up for nebula and curiosity stream. Excellent content but the web player and android app for nebula are terrible. They are buggy and the app has no speed control.
The interaction between humans and dolphins is a really interesting topic to me. In Brazil, a group of dolphins developed a symbiotic relationship with fisherman with no training at all. The dolphins swim in a circular motion around the fisherman, forcing fish into the nets. The fisherman than reward the dolphins with some of the fish. But what is really fascinating is that this behavior is being spread across multiple generations of humans and dolphins.
This is similar to dolphin hunting habits out in the wild as well, where dolphins would move around a school of fish, compacting it into a 'bait ball' where they would then take turns feeding.
I imagine they enjoy the social interaction with humans, kinda like how we like walking dogs. Every species likes a good chin scratch
They are aqua Dog's
It is not that fishermen didn't teach dolphins to do that, it is that dolphins trained fishermen
I'm sure they were watching how the humans were doing it(nets) and could form the abstract concept of effective fishing. Clever sea dogs 😎
The Beluga playing with the swimming bird was hilarious
"I'm gonna eat ya...nah I'm just kidding. OH ALMOST GOT YA THAT TIME I'm just messin' I won't eat ya. Well I might. Naaaaah"
@@Gkitchens1 ozzyman should narrate!
@@power21100 he already did th-cam.com/video/BDWnzTvNToo/w-d-xo.html
@@Gkitchens1 lol
mine mine mine
That Sea lion throwing that salute at 10:40 made my day
Wow
Me: meme
Seal: war vet 🤣
look more like a dab tbh
it made me laugh so hard XD we need more clips of this
@@michaelcho6484 true
"The dolphin is then rewarded with verbal praise and fish." The single most important sentence of this episode. Gotta make sure the animals are getting their lovings and treats.
Dolphins: "Are we the goodest boys?"
Gots to get paid.
Wait til u hear what terrible things dolphins do to other animals, or even their own kind 😭
@@TamWam_imagine they had thumbs, all the furries would be over joyed.
Today I learned there are literal Navy seals
@@metanumia I don't think my linguistics skill is high enough to use such god-tier puns.
@@metanumia Woah. Give me classes since my teacher's are literally garbage, please!
@@ceciliadelacruz8153 Literally, really?
@@Felixkeeg Just did it out of spite 👀
@@metanumia What are you.
Those dolphins contributed more to society then I ever did
S a m e
But they also rape fish sooooo
@@averygoodfantasticname4206 Are you ok?
@@averygoodfantasticname4206 who hurted you?
@@kkuhn its true I have this link for research purposes ..... th-cam.com/video/HhFlky351HY/w-d-xo.html
The navy even trained Seals to fly in helicopters and shoot guns. A heard a pack of those even took out Bin Laden
And wrote books about it.
I don't know about that, sounds fishy to me.
Get bin-bagged
Twas a lie he died of kidney failure in 2002
True.... they sealed his fate.
“For instance, on the planet Earth, man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much-the wheel, New York, wars and so on-whilst all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man-for precisely the same reasons.”
― Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
"So long, and thanks for all the fish!"
@@Disgruntled_Dave I was looking for this
I was so disappointed to find out that mankind was only the 3rd smartest lifeform on the planet. I can accept that dolphins are number 2, but the mice being the most intelligent just because they happen to be trans-dimensional beings searching for the question of 42 just doesn't seem fair.
Thank you, and always carry a towel.
@@CharlieBoiLIKEBUTTER and that's their fatal flaw, natural selection will hopefully eventually kill them off
The level of ignorance is bad though.
I was so gratified to hear you draw the distinction between atmospheric and aquatic decibels. Nobody ever does that -- instead they go for the cheap wow factor. Nice work!
I did not even know there was a difference. But in hindsight. Yes there definitely is.
I just looked it up and it appears the 2 fundamental differences are that the reference level is different (decibels are 20log(x/xref)) with air being 20x the level used in water, and water having a higher impedance than air.
Apparently a rough conversion is to subtract 62dB from the value in water.
The reference value for air is based on human hearing (an inconsistent but understandable reference point) so I'm curious why the underwater reference point would be different?
@@jasonreed7522 AFAIK the conversion of subtracting 61.5dB from the water value is to get an equivalent power-per-area of air decibels, but I'm not sure how well that equates to actual human perception (i.e. whether something 50dB-air sounds as loud as something 111.5dB in water). Regardless, I think the reason they don't reference the same pressure level is just because AFAIK water pressure dB aren't typically used to characterize perceived loudness but rather for engineering purposes (sonar, bathymetry, etc). It would be nice if there was a standardized conversion so you could say "the sperm whale issues calls as loud as an equivalent of 120dBA-SPL in air" but I don't know if the physics of sound perception underwater are even reliable enough ... maybe your bone structure, head size and density, whether you have little bubbles trapped in your ear canal, air trapped in your sinuses, etc, make it wildly variable? Or maybe you just subtract 61.5 and that's good enough?
Real engineering and real science really starting to blend together
Real science liked this comment. This is a sign.
Animals are not tools for humans
The dolphins decided to leave to explore other "employment opportunities". As smart as they are, they are unaware of the concept of giving "two week notice".
They did their time and moved on. Common courtesy was never in the contract, so you can't sue them for that.
“The day you stop learning is the day you begin decaying.”
― Isaac Asimov
Everywhere I go, I see your face. But good quotes
good quotes, but this isn’t related the video anymore
@@Aryan-ck9lv He is in the Economist aswell
Then I’ll never decay
I saw a documentary on TH-cam recently about how large of a brain whales have. They have emotions, memories, intelligence and feelings. They can communicate with other species. Imagine if we can break the language barrier and communicate with them. No ship or plane would ever be lost. All the sea bottoms and underwater mountain ranges could be explored. It would be a major breakthrough in science and perhaps even change mankind forever.
Great ideas
That a few dolphins or belugas choose to quit their jobs and swim around freely (if that is what happened) is not necessarily a sign of bad treatment. These are individual animals. Like with humans, not all dolphins like the same things, so dissatisfaction by some does not automatically mean dissatisfaction by all or even most. The fact that they can just swim away when they are on a mission sounds like a good thing to me, and a sign that life with the Navy is at least alright for these animals.
You don't see to realize these AWOL animals escaping are wearing harnesses that will cause them to drown to death if they are entangled underwater. Those fishermen saved that Navy beluga whale's life by removing the harness. Animals in the military are enslaved and their lives are put at risk when deployed into war zone. They are not enlisted out of choice, they are enslaved.
Sad to see that the navy struggles with personnel retention.
The way i see it it's like a cat. Sure some run away and choose to be feral. But that doesn't mean most of them are unhappy living with us. It's individual choice. Something dolphins are smart enough to make and understand
It sounds just like having a job, do weird sometimes arbitrary/arcane tasks in exchange for food, shelter, medical care, and scheduled downtime.
And since the dolphins can run away whenever they are on missions and instead (almost) always come back it sounds like they are not dissatisfied with their current employment. (More than most humans can say about their jobs)
Navy: It's not a prison, its more like a classroom
Middle schoolers: wait there's a difference?
This deserves way more likes
That settles it, I’m less useful than a dolphin
Anodyne Melody
Do you think a dolphin can contribute negatively to society?
Bro, dolphins are a pretty high bar to set for yourself. But tbh, plankton, honeybees, fruit bats, and mold are more useful than us🤷🏾♂️
Great video! As someone who works for the NMMF, I am happy to see such a thorough and truthful video
I had assumed that there were happy and loved like the military working dogs. Thanks for confirming
@@JJ-si4qh They do love their work!
Great video. I was a Navy EOD Tech and worked with sea lions and dolphins. We didn't dive with the sea lions, but the dolphins on the west coast were a trip to dive with. 400 pound animal turns at you from 100 yards and comes right at you in a couple seconds then bends away at the last because you gave him a bad spot on his last dive marking a target. No more thumds down after that.
Red Alert 2 Intensifies
Unit ready
*dolphin noises
*Angry giant squid noises
Ships: I am shook
Typhoon-class subs: *Fire at will*
True lol. How didn’t I think of that?😅
I think all if not most working animals want to be working. They might quit later or retire earlier than us humans were planning, but I do believe they wanted to and found it rewarding. When selecting animals to start training, there are certain characteristics that you look for. As you start training, lots (if not most) of them "fail" and go on to live whatever life they would have had. Either they lose interest in their training, something happens, I even saw one dog training to be a police dog that "failed" because they were too friendly so they lived their days as a regular pet. My own service dog basically made it clear she only wanted to work part time but that she would be there for me. Working animals handlers HAVE to be so in sync with their animals that they understand them, and animals that are smart enough to be trained to work are smart enough to learn to communicate with you, in their own way. There is a huge amount of mutual respect by necessity and by nature. I heard a story about a drug dog at the airport, apparently he alerted at pizza, and his handler went "yeah buddy, I know pizza confuses you" and rewarded him anyway. I let my dog do pretty much what she wants, but she knows when I'm being serious. Working animals are absolutely amazing
The one thing we need to be mindful of is anthropomorphism in saying that animals are "happy" is very limited in it's meaning because we cannot actively ask them and a direct yes or no answer, at least for now. Dolphins are near sapient, not just sentient, but sapient in how they behave and interact. There is to me at least sufficient evidence with how they will have regional dialects and can convey abstract thought information through vocal communication alone with each other. We should also be aware that even if the Navy leaves the pens open at night for them go out and socialize in a larger area, we feed them and give them shelter and safety from predation and other things would harm them in the wild. So it is not unreasonable that with their level of intelligence that they would naturally return to not have to deal with the constant need to hunt and monitor for predators and other threats. I have seen and heard of even wild caught captive snakes doing it, because most animals are smart enough to know when they have found a way to ensure safety and survival.
I don't mind animals being used in the service of helping keep people safe and to do their jobs, but also need to being mindful to not use them for actively harming other people, we should never use them to fight our battles.
I think it would be more useful to pour money into research and develop into a sonar system that could work just as well as a dolphins so that we wouldn't have to use them much how vehicles replaces horses when it comes to people fighting wars.
The other thing to consider though is that Navy sonar can and does disrupt wild populations of dolphins and other marine life to a very significant degree, and in some cases actually deafens individual members and groups. Being dolphins are far more sensitive to their environment, and humans are one of the most disruptive forces to have ever existed.
I never really like how people assign regular working animals things like happiness and imprisonment. Dolphins can make up there own mind if they want to stay or swim away. Now I don't support any animal training that humans won't do. If you ask animal to risk it's life then you better be able to do the same. Also I think employment of marine animals is underutilized. Dogs have all kinds of jobs, marine animals can save many lifes like have Dolphins patrol beaches and help save drowning people as dolphin can reach person way faster then life guard or train them to find resent sunken ships/airplane. Heck you probably could train some species of sharks to find objects/people. Animals have so much more to offer in cooperation with humans.
This is what in mind too...
@@death13a Animal can do things human can't. So I disagree with the statement, "...I don't support any animal training that human won't do."
Animals should not be used as tools, they should enjoy natural lives like the other members of their species
@@maxs1680 Cows, pigs, etc are basically tools.
I’m not exactly sure how these dolphins are recruited, but they do seem to be enjoying their self and seem like they could leave if they really wanted to.
Its too bad we can’t better communicate with these amazing and highly intelligent creatures.
We can atleast do some basic sign language, granted they are limited in their ability to make signs back at us do to their lack of hands.
While it would be awesome to have a vocalization to vocalization translator (like the universal translator in star trek) this assumes that:
1. They have a genuine language.
2. Our 2 languages share concepts that can be translated between. (Concepts like fish, food, water, self, other, math, grammar, death)
3. Neither language is too complex for the other species to grasp.
4. That dolphins actually want to talk back to us.
This isn't to say its impossible, various animal species have complex communications, shown emotions (including grief, spite, and trolling), and some captive primates can be taught sign language. (With 1 gorilla who's name i forgot signing the word "sad" over and over as it grieved the loss of its child)
Working with dolphins in the navy they are happy and love talking to us we have short conversation with them and we even let them decide which fish they want! They love what they do and know what they do helps and saves there human friends not to mention they love naking us happy too.
I live near (20mins tiny boat ride) an island where Dolphines and Turtles always swim by or stay near its beach, shallow waters.
they are way smarter than we think they are, even though they are wild and not trained at all, they exhibit intelligent behaviors
This channel is so underrated
Dolphins and porpoises have a history of helping humans, all without "training" or any obvious incentives. This same cross-species altruism is seen between humans and many other animals, especially dogs, but surprisingly frequently with dolphins and porpoises. Any species which is natively benign and curious, cooperative and communicates demonstrates obvious intelligence.
Boy those guys at Westwood really saw it coming
They didn't predict it exactly, they studied the real-world history of U.S. and Soviet dolphin training programs that happened many decades before even the first Command & Conquer game was released in 1995.
@@metanumia fun fact - where I live during Soviet time they used to have dolphins with spikes(as described in the video) and in usual Russian styles they were full of poison, not just CO2
@@metanumia yeah... i am waiting for soviet attack squid
1:39 whale gives friendly bite to birb boi
Great video, dolphin intelligence is insanely high but we still barely understand them, I'd love to see more videos like this
These information make my heart cry knowing that no matter how advance technology is, humans still treating other animals inhumane.
A reminder that at least some Star Trek timelines have "Cetacean Ops" onboard star ships staffed by dolphins and other aquatic mammals.
The Enterprise-D in particular had that mentioned in one episode and on the blueprints. Not sure if that applies to all Galaxy class ships or not.
That sounds awesome.
They're canon now.
Also exactly how I found out irl Cetacean Ops is a thing as in this vid.
This is literally the coolest video I have ever seen
Waiting for the day dolphins capture a human, keep him in captivity and train him to do tasks and tricks for them.
There should be something like the Geneva convention for animals. Like that they can be used to save lives and deactivate mines, but never as weapons.
Well, how effective would that be? There was a convention after WW1 which indirectly lead to WW2 and Germany broke every single rule, only for the allies to do the same.
Well anytime humanity has found something that can be used for good, this happens: "Great, Now how can we use this to kill people"
ProtoRetro chemical weapons are still a problem, but they would be 100 times worse if it weren’t for the Geneva convention. So, yeah, it can work.
@@protoretro1290
Conventions are different to peace treaties.
Many arms reductions and treaties on the laws of war have been enacted and well followed.
In fact the treaty on the prohibition of chemical warfare is a spectacular example of it, after ww1 it was agreed that chemical weapons lead simply to mass casualties for no discernible gain, and so it was agreed no parties would use it, as a result nazi germany nor the allies deployed chemical weaponry in the battlefield, as result millions were saved from death and disfigurement that would have befallen them under ww1 conditions.
I think Wikipedia has some good introductory material on arms reductions treaties, particularly the one on prohibiting chemical warfare. (Obviously nothing is perfect but 98/100 people saved is still a pretty big deal)
The military also uses animals on how to deal with wounds.. pretty horrific especially when the animals are not killed humanely first. And then there's also the damage done by the use of sonar and weapon testing in the oceans and the impact that has on marine life.
1:40 That seagull has balls of steel
And that whale likes heavy metals.
Thank you for this very informative report, so many things that the general public have no knowledge of!
aaah, so this is what they meant by 'navy seals'
"The dolphin is then rewarded with verbal praise and fish."
That sounds sweet, how do I get in on this
*B E D O L P H I N*
9:55 I love the part where they feed the dolphin❤️ one of the cutest things I’ve ever seen
ok love this channel and i think it would be cool to have 2 hosts, one can throw to the other and give the show a tonal shift leading to increased average view time
This channel rocks! Worth always watching
"It's impossible to know what the dolphins are thinking"
They're actually crazy intelligent. Like, can-communicate-with-humans-easily intelligent. I'm sure their handlers know how they feel about what they do.
Ever since I learned how intelligent dolphins were by nature, I've imagined them as these more evolved creatures who tolerate us and even look out for us once and a while🤷🏾♂️😁
They *do* look out for us, sometimes. There are numerous stories of marine mammals protecting humans from sharks.
I personally think they simply recognise a fellow intelligent animal, and feel a kinship of sorts - like we do to them.
I really thank you for make me discover curiosity stream, and nebula. And for your super interesting documentary. Much love for you
"hehe ima gitcha seagull"
"please leave me alone"
Amazing ! So cool. And so is Nebula!!
Super interesting video!
Dolphins amaze me i cannot believe how intelligent they actually are
That sounds really amazing! Thanks!
@2:35 that is located in Sarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegovina. That wooden structure behind the pigeon is a water fountain called Sebilj that is of historical importance.
So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish!
The dolphin at 13:40 certainly seemed to enjoy its job and the trainer 😊
“The navy says that the dolphins are happy”
Good thing the military never lies
Background music gave me Interstellar vibe.
Glad to discover this Chanel
That sonar-cannon dolphin unit in Red Alert 2 suddenly doesn't seem so weird anymore.
Thai is like the one video that I don't know why I am watching it, buts it's really informative
I’ve always wondered if freshwater fish like catfish can be trained to search for things like missing people in muddy bodies of water. Catfishes’ entire bodies are full of sensory organs and they’re a lot more intelligent than we think, and I know that some cats like clarias sp. and my own synodontis eupterus can be trained to do simple tricks
When he almost ate the bird instead of the fish right next to him 😂
"Oh shit jon sorry you know I can't see too well these days "
@2:54 in order to be recruited you need to volunteer, the animals have been drafted. Draftee animals, that's something else lol
Lets face it, if the dolphins decided they didn't like their work, they would just fuck right off with the equipment once in open water. They're smart enough to determine whether or not the mutual benefit is good enough to comply or not. Dolphins are extremely intelligent animals, Orca's probably being the best example of this as they have the capability to recognize themselves in mirrors and form their own cultures and languages. Dolphins have also been known to develop symbiotic relationships with fishermen of their own according, forming a mutually beneficial relationship for both parties that continues over generations. Something that was explained in more detail by another commenter. These are highly intelligent animals, rivaling humans in many ways so being able to engage in the kind of work they're trained for might actually be enjoyable and enriching for these animals. It's nothing like being stuck in enclosures at zoos and aquariums. These animals get to experience open water and constant enrichment as they work.
This is so fascinating,
Fisherman go out and the dolphins help net the fish. Then share the catch with the fishermen. I can’t remember where is saw the video but it’s the sweetest thing. Dolphins in their own habitat not captive nothing like that. So cool to watch
1:50 the whale bite the seagull is so cute!
I work at a facility that keeps dolphins in a huge ocean pen, and I can tell you that because they're very intelligent they love both physical and mental stimulation. Being trained to search for mines they would love so much but morally???? I'm not so sure.
thanks you for the video
I’m proud of your work
You AND your work**
correction: high frequency means higher energy. very interesting video.
Sorry for deleting the first comment, but I did a little more research and I think I see where the confusion is. In the electromagnetic spectrum, a higher frequency always equals higher energy (at least I'm not aware of any exceptions). However in acoustics the level of energy is represented as amplitude, not frequency. Instead, frequency represents the pitch. That said, in a situation with two acoustic signals of the same amplitude with different frequencies, the higher frequency signal will have more energy. So the total energy of the signal is kind of a sum of the two parameters. So really it depends on what the submarine in question is capable of, and what it's objective is. If a sub isn't trying to be particularly stealthy, they are probably going to be using sonar instead of radar.
@@reflect7559 actually sound waves (and other longitudinal waves) have pressure amplitude directly proportional to frequency. P=(2(pi)BSf)/v , where 'P' is pressure amplitude of sound wave, 'B' is bulk modulus of fluid, 'S' is particle displacement amplitude, 'v' is propagation velocity of sound wave in the fluid, and 'f' is the frequency of sound wave. So if the frequency increases the amplitude also increases, they are interrelated and not two separate parameters.
@@reflect7559 Also RADAR cannot be used underwater as the EMW of even longer wavelengths (like microwaves) are easily absorbed or scattered within very short distances. Which is why SONAR is always used underwater (and in other high density fluids, for example getting image of organs, fetus in pregnant woman etc.)
I learned something new today. Thanks! I'm an audio engineer and producer, so in my practical experience the two have always been separated. Brief research probably wasn't going to fix that misunderstanding. Its interesting and useful to know how interconnected they really are! Also thanks for the nifty formula. Always handy to have maths like that in your toolbelt
@@reflect7559 no problem man. Coincidentally I was studying the sound waves chapter in physics at the same time this video was released. Audio engineer and producer is a cool job! You probably know more about sound intuitively than I do lol.
If I may ask, how is training a dolphin or seal different from the start of training horses or dogs? These animals are cared for by their handlers, rewarded for their work, and not put into danger unnecessarily. Animals have many tasks in many roles in the armed forces. Falconers and hawks keep birds away from runways to prevent birdstrikes on aircraft, cats were used on ships to kill rats and other rodents that were a danger to food, water, and the health of the crew. Now if the animals were being abused to otherwise mistreated in human care then maybe there would be an argument, but if they are returning on their own will.
lol obv cause the training is water based .
I know in the US military, all animals in service are 1 rank above their handlers, so if the handlers are caught abusing the animals, they can be tried in a military court.
@@oliverwells8011 abuses have been claimed, brought forward, and ignored.
If a hawk flies away from its falconer, it can survive on its own. If a Navy Marine Mammal wearing a harness goes AWOL, the harness can entangle underwater and the animal will drown and die. That beluga whale's life was saved by removing the harness. Dolphins are wild animals and not domesticated or semi domesticated as your examples you mentioned. They were forced into military service for wars of another species and can die when deployed into a war zone. Falconery has been around for centuries, but dolphins have only been in captivity since the 1940s. Domestic animals have been selectively bred for thousands of years to do what the do.
@@davidreames8752 keep in mind several pods of dolphins have been fishing partners with various human communities for thousands of years. The basic process being that the dolphins herd the fish into a dense ball and then fisherman use nets to catch both the dolphins and the fish. The dolphins remain calm and the fisherman untangle and release them before giving them a share of the catch.
Dolphins are perfectly capable of choosing to work with humans because its a net benefit for the animal.
And an orca near Australia/New Zealand cooperated with whalers with a similar arrangement where the orca lead the whalers to sperm whales and then was rewarded with the organs of the harvested whale. (This ended when a dumb newcomer attacked the orca instead of following the rules)
Definitely getting the CuriosityStream with the nebula package very soon😊
Just a friendly correction for 6:11: Actually,high frequency waves have more energy than low frequency,its more condensed.
I don't think anyone that hasn't worked with an animal can say if it's content or not. There is happiness in nature. It's either content and joy or pain and suffering. Those dolphins and sea lions have the opportunity to leave unlike some other animals. They are let free. I see them as i see falcons and falconers. They know how to hunt. They know how to fly. They can leave and some do but many return. It's this deep connection between trainer and their animal. A partnership. It's often ppl say working dogs are imprisoned or unhappy and while some have issues related tp the job they did many of them enjoy it and often miss it. The dolphins are sentient enough to see mutual benefit. They choose not to leave when they have the opportunity. Yea some leave vut some dogs run away from home too. Doesn't mean all dogs are suffering as pets. It's antromorphisation to say an animal is happy or unhappy as an outside viewer. It's trough the animals action and behaviour we judge their mentality. No abused animal will come back to the abuser. Expecially one of high intelligence. They are trusted enough to do a work consistently which tells me they find what they do meaningful. There is nothing more to life than that. They are not "unhappy" therefore they are content and "happy". What is the difference between training those and a falcon? Or a dog? Or a horse? They all do wht we ask them because we took the time to make the animal understand and connect to it. We make the animal care fpr our satisfaction. I ride horses. If i miss days because of weather they get agitated. They can go out. They can run as much as they want. Yet they are annoying they don't go out on rides. Although they know i will be on their back. They will have reigns and saddles that they will maybe see scary things. They let me ride them because we build trust. Trust that i will protect them and they will be safe. I see no difference between that and the dolphins and their marine officers. Or a police dog and it's handler. It's about trust. The trust the animal gives us of being safe and rewarded. And our trust in it of doing it's job
When a conflict comes every marine mammal can be suspected of being a trained operative and killed out of precaution. So that is the moral trouble of militarizing animals. The animals dont realize the risk we are setting them up for, only that we give them food for some task. Like a drug dealer paying a 11 year old child 20 dollars to make a dangerous delivery for them so they thermselves do not risk harm. Is that moral? How is feeding an animal to perform war duties any different? It wants food and doesnt understand the larger perspective or consequences, so accepts the reward gladly. Like the child delivering drugs for the gangs. I work for a university in marine mammal research and I served in the army, but I do NOT support involving anything innocent, including intelligent mammals, into human wars. The animals will only die for it, even the ones not involved at all. Thank you for the informative video. The US military has told the marine mammal research community it dropped its programs with dolphins ... Obviously the russians use belugas because they are arctic adapted and just as smart, for their ambitions there. Its sick.
Man they’re so freaking cool!
Awesome vid! Dolphins are line the work horse of the sea
This is pretty interesting!
I love your vids and I hope that your vids stay as long as u live stay safe!
Now it makes sense navy seals
Beluga whales are unbelievably tame, we've seen them lots off of newfoundland and they are very playful and enjoy following boats
Has anyone tried or thought of using them to find the lost MH370?
If they can locate mines, why not sunk planes?
Seems like they could outdo technology on this!
I think they dont because the indian ocean is too large and there is too many predators that they kill the dolphins or make them get lost.
Too deep
Time to start Mark 8 and train sperm whales.
Desidia
Then the Japanese might get hungry
Because dolphins can only be used in shallow water,they can't be used in deep seas cause of their breathing limitations
Please, to make life easier for Nebula subscribers, could you add a direct link to the nebula version of videos in the description of future videos?
BTW, looks like this video isn't on nebula yet ! Kinda ironic, given the sponsor ^^
Note the dolphin jumping ahead of the sub at 6:47!
Imagine being a Vietcong commando and the last thing you see is a dolphin charging at you.
This is pretty cool
Good video 👍
you know what the dolphins are thinking?
"so long and thanks for all the fish"
So your telling me I should expect 4 penguins from Madagascar to be real?
Man is the smartest animal ever
Dolphin let's you do all the work, build boats, docks, ports, harbors, maintain the boats, build equipment, get a crew, risk nature all for a couple fish.
Dolphin goes "eeeeee"
Gets fed. Who is playing who lmao
Imagine living life as a US navy dolphin handler. Imagine living life as a US navy dolphin. Some people and dolphins have the craziest lives.
The idea of navy seals deploying with actual seals is a movie I want to watch.
Sailor: Okay we're gonna have the dolphin use it's sonar to-
Dolphin: Excuse me we call it echolocation
Sailor:
Dolphin: Also we want the same pay as the seals, I heard through the water one they took out that terrorist, we saved your ship
Sailor: They can talk
Dolphin: Oh crap I mean *squeeeeeak*
Tears in my eyes
I signed up for nebula and curiosity stream. Excellent content but the web player and android app for nebula are terrible. They are buggy and the app has no speed control.
establishing their dominance in the marine domain.
Stephanie: *praises US Navy program*
US Navy: it’s free real estate
The navy even trained Seals to fly in helicopters and shoot guns. A heard a pack of those even took out Bin Laden
It sucks to know a dolphin has a cooler job and more people to shower him with praise than I ever will
dear diary,
my depression grows deeper as i find my self more useless than a semi aquatic marine mammal
you can go to hammerfest in Fishing: Barents Sea simulator. looks beautiful.
Mind....BLOWN!!!!
AWESOME