I still remember the home phone number of my best friends because I had to always remember it to call them (into the 2000s...didn't get my phone till late...)
See - retrieval at work! Also did not get a phone until literally all of my other friends had a phone. Even made a little rap song about it back in the day. "I ain't got no celly, Ain't no phone you can *bleep-ing sell me..." That was about as far as I got.
Good insights, i repeat so much things in my mind that it became an obssessive compulsive disorder, in some moment i started with it because i believed that works, maybe you killed this rigth now
hii I wanted to know which is better, note taking using laptop or long hand note taking, can you in future make any videso about the topic if possible? Thanks! and awesome video
What if you retrieve something incorrectly, does that strengthen the incorrect memory? Example you are learning a language, you misspell a word, you fix it and then after some time you misspell it again. Are you making this misspelled memory of the word stronger, every time you misspell it? Or is it that later on, you will have this sort of a warning in your head that “watch out you misspelled this before”. What are some effective steps to re-encode the incorrect memory to the correct form quickly?
You are exactly correct - it can strengthen the incorrect memory. I mostly have experienced this with driving: you take a wrong turn one time, and then you make the wrong turn again a few weeks later! What's likely happening in this scenario is that your brain has associated the cues (being in a car at the corner you came to) with the previous action (the wrong turn), and so, if you're not really reflecting on it, your brain goes into auto-pilot, and you do the incorrect thing again. You can disrupt the association by trying to scramble it (spell your word wrong in a bunch of different ways), but you can also try to slow down and reflect as you are spelling those words. These "automatic" processes of the brain tend to kick in when we are not paying attention and less so when we are paying attention. That said, there are plenty of other cases where coming to the wrong conclusion doesn't seem to impair future learning. We make mistakes all the time and learn to correct them. Often, making mistakes is where the bulk of the learning takes place.
I was reading your references (i usually don't do that but i got really interested ) and couldn't read the "Further evidence that concept mapping" one on the page and i couldn't find it on the web, how can i read it ? In any case, i want to thanks you for spreading this type of content, i can't tell you how it's game-changing to get a starting points about the topic of learning. i plan to get an expert level on various things and i know how a method on learning things makes a huges difference so i want to get a systemic way to how to learn things, how do you think i should start and where can i gather the ressources ? (sorry for my poor english ).
I have one question. Do you know of any research that focuses on people with aphantasia or possible differences in learning styles / techniques / results between them and people with the ability to imagine pictures in their heads? Scince I know about Aphantasia I always wondered how it might affects my learning...
Hi Benjamin! I'm studying molecular biology and genetics, so I need to make sure that I'm taking the informations into my long-term memory. However, I have six classes which is huge for me to obtain. I couldn't find a right way to study my lessons even if I find the relation between the informations. Do you have any recommendation or video about it? It will be perfect to arrange my lessons!! Great video!
4:02 And what about emotions? If have a job or life you get insulted a lot you might used or it might crush you more and more to the point of destruction. Guess that adaptive and maladaptive stress. So trying to remember would make you feel like trash, having the right perspective when remembering becomes crucial, prevents you feeling sick in the stomach when you think about math or something.
its better to associate and imagination , to recall easily than mnenomics and memory palace . memory palace is good but memory palace need lot of palaces
instagram handles are worse. im 17 but grew up with a landline my family had phones but i obviously did not so till this day i still have my grandmothers home phone memorised (i moved out 9 years ago). whats happened is over the course of not living in my childhood house is ive had too remember the number more forcing it out of my mind 3 times this week and then again 2 months later (example) thats its so cemented i doubt ill ever forget it. my point is that ive also had too memorise instra handles and the combination of numbers letters ans symbols are alot more annoying
We connect our learning materials to already remembered things, assign memorable things to them, break them down to make them more memorable, etc. It's "elaborative" because we're introducing additional stuff over and above the learning materials or modifying them to make them easier to encode and retrieve.
This is the point I don’t get, you said repeating the phone number in your head is not retrieval but every time you recall the phone number in your mind isn’t this retrieval of some sort anyway? I do agree that if you allow some time to pass it can help you solidify the information. For example if I was to memorise a passage. I read it 5 times until I can repeat it in my mind without looking at it, than I repeat the information 20 times in my mind and I do this everyday whilst you re call the passage every other day over the course of a week. Who would of memorised it better?! You also mentioned free recall but the act of writing the information on paper is the same process of repeating the phone number in your head it has to recalled in your mind before it goes on the paper. Please correct me if I’m wrong?
The distinction between long-term and working memory is important, here. When you're repeating the phone number in your head, you're just keeping it in your working memory system. Retrieval (in the psychological sense) only happens when you've "cleared" your working memory of the information and pulled it out from long-term memory again.
I love your sense of humor.
the ending is perfect
I still remember the home phone number of my best friends because I had to always remember it to call them (into the 2000s...didn't get my phone till late...)
See - retrieval at work! Also did not get a phone until literally all of my other friends had a phone. Even made a little rap song about it back in the day.
"I ain't got no celly,
Ain't no phone you can *bleep-ing sell me..."
That was about as far as I got.
@@benjaminkeep LET HIM COOK
Good insights, i repeat so much things in my mind that it became an obssessive compulsive disorder, in some moment i started with it because i believed that works, maybe you killed this rigth now
Thank you so much
Thank you!!!
hii I wanted to know which is better, note taking using laptop or long hand note taking, can you in future make any videso about the topic if possible? Thanks! and awesome video
What if you retrieve something incorrectly, does that strengthen the incorrect memory? Example you are learning a language, you misspell a word, you fix it and then after some time you misspell it again. Are you making this misspelled memory of the word stronger, every time you misspell it? Or is it that later on, you will have this sort of a warning in your head that “watch out you misspelled this before”. What are some effective steps to re-encode the incorrect memory to the correct form quickly?
You are exactly correct - it can strengthen the incorrect memory. I mostly have experienced this with driving: you take a wrong turn one time, and then you make the wrong turn again a few weeks later! What's likely happening in this scenario is that your brain has associated the cues (being in a car at the corner you came to) with the previous action (the wrong turn), and so, if you're not really reflecting on it, your brain goes into auto-pilot, and you do the incorrect thing again.
You can disrupt the association by trying to scramble it (spell your word wrong in a bunch of different ways), but you can also try to slow down and reflect as you are spelling those words. These "automatic" processes of the brain tend to kick in when we are not paying attention and less so when we are paying attention.
That said, there are plenty of other cases where coming to the wrong conclusion doesn't seem to impair future learning. We make mistakes all the time and learn to correct them. Often, making mistakes is where the bulk of the learning takes place.
Great question.
I was reading your references (i usually don't do that but i got really interested ) and couldn't read the "Further evidence that concept mapping" one on the page and i couldn't find it on the web, how can i read it ?
In any case, i want to thanks you for spreading this type of content, i can't tell you how it's game-changing to get a starting points about the topic of learning.
i plan to get an expert level on various things and i know how a method on learning things makes a huges difference so i want to get a systemic way to how to learn things, how do you think i should start and where can i gather the ressources ? (sorry for my poor english ).
I have one question.
Do you know of any research that focuses on people with aphantasia or possible differences in learning styles / techniques / results between them and people with the ability to imagine pictures in their heads?
Scince I know about Aphantasia I always wondered how it might affects my learning...
Curiously rhymming a phone number makes learn it almost instantaneous for me
I like the sound effect when he introduces a new concept 😅
You are just, good!
Hi Benjamin! I'm studying molecular biology and genetics, so I need to make sure that I'm taking the informations into my long-term memory. However, I have six classes which is huge for me to obtain. I couldn't find a right way to study my lessons even if I find the relation between the informations. Do you have any recommendation or video about it? It will be perfect to arrange my lessons!! Great video!
4:02 And what about emotions? If have a job or life you get insulted a lot you might used or it might crush you more and more to the point of destruction. Guess that adaptive and maladaptive stress. So trying to remember would make you feel like trash, having the right perspective when remembering becomes crucial, prevents you feeling sick in the stomach when you think about math or something.
its better to associate and imagination , to recall easily than mnenomics and memory palace . memory palace is good but memory palace need lot of palaces
instagram handles are worse. im 17 but grew up with a landline my family had phones but i obviously did not so till this day i still have my grandmothers home phone memorised (i moved out 9 years ago). whats happened is over the course of not living in my childhood house is ive had too remember the number more forcing it out of my mind 3 times this week and then again 2 months later (example) thats its so cemented i doubt ill ever forget it. my point is that ive also had too memorise instra handles and the combination of numbers letters ans symbols are alot more annoying
I wonder what is meant by “elaborate”
We connect our learning materials to already remembered things, assign memorable things to them, break them down to make them more memorable, etc. It's "elaborative" because we're introducing additional stuff over and above the learning materials or modifying them to make them easier to encode and retrieve.
Me on my way to use free recall on this video
Two steps of memory: encoding and retrieval
It's actually 3. You missed storage in between. But I don't blame you. I blame serial position curve
Simples!
This is the point I don’t get, you said repeating the phone number in your head is not retrieval but every time you recall the phone number in your mind isn’t this retrieval of some sort anyway? I do agree that if you allow some time to pass it can help you solidify the information. For example if I was to memorise a passage. I read it 5 times until I can repeat it in my mind without looking at it, than I repeat the information 20 times in my mind and I do this everyday whilst you re call the passage every other day over the course of a week. Who would of memorised it better?! You also mentioned free recall but the act of writing the information on paper is the same process of repeating the phone number in your head it has to recalled in your mind before it goes on the paper. Please correct me if I’m wrong?
The distinction between long-term and working memory is important, here. When you're repeating the phone number in your head, you're just keeping it in your working memory system. Retrieval (in the psychological sense) only happens when you've "cleared" your working memory of the information and pulled it out from long-term memory again.
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