In my day we used the bow in the collars time it right and they come back so easly I worked derrick for 12 years and like most old hands have said you had to be faster way faster driller never stopped the blocks. One rope to hold it another from the back not the side and would come back way easier ( try running the pull rope from the back of the board cheers also helps if you pull collar over while its being set down) My days were the 1970 to 1995 cheers
Jack that collar I'm from the center, so it pulled the bails in, then have your snubbing post rope on ready to jack... when that collar hit the table, you'd unlatch and the bails would fall away, then you jacked it back against the diving board as the blocks went by, then gave it a bit of slack and started jacking toward the snubbing post then we swung them out and racked them on the inside of the Derrick, usually 3 stands of 9" and 3 stands of 6", we'd have to climb up and stand on our snubbing and jacking ropes to reach the tail ropes to unlatch and latch the elevators because of how tall the collars were, and usually had to drop our lanyard before we climbed because our lanyards weren't long enough...
Yes you’re correct, I would have ropes that would be parallel to the board and ropes that would come from the side, that way I had 2 different directions to lead the collar back to the elevators and you’re also correct on pulling the collar back before it’s set down all the way. There’s so many things he could do different to make it much easier. I’m old school myself started in 74.
Right on, maybe for wraps if you had a wet DST with live oil on it. Worked collars with a real loose safety belt with one rope on the harness, not all of the extra ropes and cable. Was tripping out of the hole Northeast of Snyder Texas and had 6500 feet stacked back in the Derrick and saw a tornado. I got in my Derrick climber and did a freefall to the floor. It missed us by less than a mile.
all of us guys from the 70's know this is slow , 1 rope its all on the first press and pull the collars will do the work for you , if the derrick is leaning the wrong way than you have to fight it .
Exactly worked the board on a double ideco, double block single challenger and a a triple ideco. Always one rope for a drill collar. Started my board time in 02'.
TheMoezilla bells are hard to get moving on a TD cuz of the cylinders, so I tie a rope to hold the collar and let the Driller kick the elevators back out of the way. I can get it swinging a lot easier that way
1/2 wrap is so much easier both in and out at least on 6 1//2 inch DC and I remember them hella handshake days. now I got so much arthritis not so much anymore
Everyone works different on the board... But it should only take between 15 to minutes to trip in or out all collar stands on a Kelly rig... If not less
Depends how big your derrick is. Worked derricks on 110 nationals, pretty good size derrick. I always used a double wrap pop it back for 6 inch. I never worked with 4inch collars. 8 and 10 inch we used a mule. I see horrendous derrick work on these videos these days. roughnecking in general. I worked on drilling rigs, land and offshore for 10 years. 77-87. Been in a LOT of derricks. From N75-80 nats all the way up to 1625 national. 4 1/2 and 5" mostly. Some 3 1/2 on rare occassion. It all works/handles differently. Worst I ever worked was an OIME that the board was set sooo far back. It just made everything harder. And of course, the best height for a stand is level with the top of your head. Had a job once that they had this problem. A derrickman got hurt one night on another shift when the shuttlecock came down on top of a stand bowed it and it jumped out and hit him in the face. I told 'em to shove it and moved on. Not worth the hassle or the risk. Fuck I hated shit drilling contractors, drillers and tool pushers and did not ever hesitate to tell them to shove it where the sun don't shine. But it's amazing,, some people can make simple jobs hard and others can make hard jobs easy. A good rig, a good TP and driller...good crew...just made life sooo much easier. Bad ones, could make life a living helll and it's best to just get the fuck out there. They hurt/mangle/kill too many people. Call it a day and move on. Just to add I think my best record for round tripping, which we did one day on an 8 hour tour, was 14,700'. 9 6" drill collars, 4 1/2 drill pipe. Drove up on location morning tour had pulled one row. We had it turning to the right just as the evening tour pulled up on location. That's a solid days work. Nat 110 with 2 800hp cats. Lee C Moore 1000 ton derrick.
Hahaha! I just went back some Forty forty-five years. For those who don't know much about drilling it may seem like "Oh! What's there?", but believe me it is team work and each one right from those on the floor, the one on the brakes to this guy who is fully harnessed it is like Beethoven's symphony. However I think although you are on top you still need to have your helmet on. Maybe one small nut from the Derrick top gets loose and falls on your head, all those safety harness won't prevent you from being loaded on the stretcher. Thanks for sharing.
Good job nonetheless... I've pulled back with half a wrap... only because I suck at this way.... work smarter... not harder... good job man... you made it look easy... these other "roughneck" 😂😂 you know the oilfields... tall tales and bigger lies... everyone has a bigger story 😂😂😂
You just gotta learn how to pull, I learned the hard way, forced you to figure it out. I pull BHA, Collars, whatever like they are drill pipe! Just stay hydrated if you cramp up, your done!
When you’re pulling pipe on a big rig you need to run The pull back rope through the third or fourth finger from the front. This way the pipe pivots back to you and it won’t get away from you so you can pull it back in the alley. I used to tie my pull back rope Back where my Derrick belt was tied 14 fingers and 18 rolws on one side 5 inch. Start out with my belt tied almost in the corner and move it as a Derrick Filled up. Use a clove hitch on your pull back rope so you can keep letting it out
Worst thing I encountered pulling 8” was when the worm set the stand on the rotary table . Neither I or drill was watching downstairs. I unlatched and was setting it back when I heard “latch it up, worm f.cked up. The stand was like 15 foot above the board . Collar nubbings had 4 foot of play. I wasn’t on the board but I watched a driller still have enough weight to twist out of a collar nubbing. Collar clamps are there for a reason.
motorman xxx u sound like a washed up hand, mad bcuz u never made it to drill. You did more work and got paid less, u couldn't make it in the oilfield today.....I made it in your oilfield and I'm still making it in the new one. Stop hating when you've never had to latch pipe in a derreck built for a topdrive(not converted), don't even have to touch elevators on a Kelly rig.
swinging block with half a wrap best way to pull em just swing the half wrap and pull as it comes down open elevators as soon as it hits itll swing at you
only advise I would give to this after reading all the bs comments from keyboard warriors is that it's a lot easier to wrap collar rope under instead of over that way when your going in the hole the rope will unspiral and fall off the collar by itself instead of you having to do the work. I won't bash your work because the point is you got the collar back the way you like it. to each their own. 💯
Week as hell with the extra rope. Sorry, just jack it back with a wrap and a half. H&P flex 3 rig 218 in Barnette shale. And 274 in eagle ford shale. Haven’t been in the patch for a long time now but when I was working derricks, a wrap and a half on 8” DC with a pull rope worked just fine.
Rather slow, if you are racking DC's manually, Driller sets pin on the table, it fall to the Derrickman, he ties it off securely, Driller picks up carefully, it will swing fast, crew set it down on the collar mat. watch your fingers
Pretty slow especially when the link tilt doesn’t half the work for you. Nice enough driller though. The guys I worked for would’ve had another stand up there broken off and waiting.
Is ths a joke or what ?...it starts with safetybelt it should be let out so you can only touch collar with your finger tips then use a half wrap. Soon as the collar touches down the elevators are off and that collar is coming to you fast ...
last time I was on a rig working day had to come out hole for logs TD jump on the elevators they said o no we can't do that any more I said u mean I have to crawl my fat ass up that ladder u know not enough counter weight got up there yelled down to the floor give me 5 or 10 min. already forearm's cramping haha got to the derrick belt would not fit so I sash cored me in with three raps through the belt they would have shit if they knew I was 53 yrs. old I can still getter and of course half rap on collars 6 in. YEE YEE TEXAS PANHANDLE
It’s a shame there’s no old hands out there teaching these guys anymore. That’s just a 6 1/2 inch drill collar pull back like drill pipe. Plus that the top drive is pushing it back halfway for him. The old oil field is long gone
Way too slow, I had a Derikman in northern bc that weighed 150 lbs and he could get 6 1/4 doubles Back any where the boys could put them on the floor way faster than that 1 rope no assist
too bad phone cameras were not in everyone's pocket in the 70s and 80s. we'd shown you girls how to jack back a drill collar. that shit is slow, slow, slow.
I bet he was hungry after that stand ate his lunch haha
That's good shit
In my day we used the bow in the collars time it right and they come back so easly I worked derrick for 12 years and like most old hands have said you had to be faster way faster driller never stopped the blocks. One rope to hold it another from the back not the side and would come back way easier ( try running the pull rope from the back of the board cheers also helps if you pull collar over while its being set down) My days were the 1970 to 1995 cheers
Yup that's how I learned too...
Jack that collar I'm from the center, so it pulled the bails in, then have your snubbing post rope on ready to jack... when that collar hit the table, you'd unlatch and the bails would fall away, then you jacked it back against the diving board as the blocks went by, then gave it a bit of slack and started jacking toward the snubbing post then we swung them out and racked them on the inside of the Derrick, usually 3 stands of 9" and 3 stands of 6", we'd have to climb up and stand on our snubbing and jacking ropes to reach the tail ropes to unlatch and latch the elevators because of how tall the collars were, and usually had to drop our lanyard before we climbed because our lanyards weren't long enough...
Yes you’re correct, I would have ropes that would be parallel to the board and ropes that would come from the side, that way I had 2 different directions to lead the collar back to the elevators and you’re also correct on pulling the collar back before it’s set down all the way. There’s so many things he could do different to make it much easier. I’m old school myself started in 74.
They would have brought this hand down
Yes yes catch the bow the co.e like drill pipe
I remember my first collar 😂 come on man half wrap and no security rope
YES SIR!!!!
Never even thought about a security rope. When I was working them two wraps and jack them back.
Right on, maybe for wraps if you had a wet DST with live oil on it. Worked collars with a real loose safety belt with one rope on the harness, not all of the extra ropes and cable. Was tripping out of the hole Northeast of Snyder Texas and had 6500 feet stacked back in the Derrick and saw a tornado. I got in my Derrick climber and did a freefall to the floor. It missed us by less than a mile.
Hell yeah man!! I’m a new Derrick hand and that security rope is awesome. Definitely ganna be trying this. Thanks boss
all of us guys from the 70's know this is slow , 1 rope its all on the first press and pull the collars will do the work for you , if the derrick is leaning the wrong way than you have to fight it .
Could not have said it better started in 1970ies
Exactly worked the board on a double ideco, double block single challenger and a a triple ideco. Always one rope for a drill collar. Started my board time in 02'.
You gentlemen are men. Thank you.
Different safety practices with the 2 ropes? All I remember was a single with a half wrap...you get one hell of a handshake as a bonus!
TheMoezilla bells are hard to get moving on a TD cuz of the cylinders, so I tie a rope to hold the collar and let the Driller kick the elevators back out of the way. I can get it swinging a lot easier that way
1/2 wrap is so much easier both in and out at least on 6 1//2 inch DC and I remember them hella handshake days. now I got so much arthritis not so much anymore
Right on. Jackin back 8.50 DC
Everyone works different on the board... But it should only take between 15 to minutes to trip in or out all collar stands on a Kelly rig... If not less
Yes I say 12 minutes
Hahaha when there’s 6 collars to rack back and the worms suck at putting the wedding band on it never be that fast lol.
half wrap and pull, quit wasting time. Hang up the purse
Unacceptable. I used to have it racked before you got the second rope on it
i never took so long on one collar
And I'm sure your back is all fuked up by now huh.
Last time I did it was 1995 Easter north Dakota July 4th no belt freezing rain they rack them like pipe worms cyclone # 3
I work Derreck’s on a triple with a top drive and I pull collars back like drill pipe
Yes Sir,I pull collars back like drill pipe on triple Kelly Rig...respect to you bro.
Same here bud. Half wrap all day too. My drill gets on me every time for that.
Depends how big your derrick is. Worked derricks on 110 nationals, pretty good size derrick. I always used a double wrap pop it back for 6 inch. I never worked with 4inch collars. 8 and 10 inch we used a mule. I see horrendous derrick work on these videos these days. roughnecking in general. I worked on drilling rigs, land and offshore for 10 years. 77-87. Been in a LOT of derricks. From N75-80 nats all the way up to 1625 national. 4 1/2 and 5" mostly. Some 3 1/2 on rare occassion. It all works/handles differently. Worst I ever worked was an OIME that the board was set sooo far back. It just made everything harder. And of course, the best height for a stand is level with the top of your head. Had a job once that they had this problem. A derrickman got hurt one night on another shift when the shuttlecock came down on top of a stand bowed it and it jumped out and hit him in the face. I told 'em to shove it and moved on. Not worth the hassle or the risk. Fuck I hated shit drilling contractors, drillers and tool pushers and did not ever hesitate to tell them to shove it where the sun don't shine. But it's amazing,, some people can make simple jobs hard and others can make hard jobs easy. A good rig, a good TP and driller...good crew...just made life sooo much easier. Bad ones, could make life a living helll and it's best to just get the fuck out there. They hurt/mangle/kill too many people. Call it a day and move on. Just to add I think my best record for round tripping, which we did one day on an 8 hour tour, was 14,700'. 9 6" drill collars, 4 1/2 drill pipe. Drove up on location morning tour had pulled one row. We had it turning to the right just as the evening tour pulled up on location. That's a solid days work. Nat 110 with 2 800hp cats. Lee C Moore 1000 ton derrick.
Yes sure you do.
Wow he made that look hard
Hahaha!
I just went back some Forty forty-five years. For those who don't know much about drilling it may seem like "Oh! What's there?", but believe me it is team work and each one right from those on the floor, the one on the brakes to this guy who is fully harnessed it is like Beethoven's symphony.
However I think although you are on top you still need to have your helmet on. Maybe one small nut from the Derrick top gets loose and falls on your head, all those safety harness won't prevent you from being loaded on the stretcher.
Thanks for sharing.
Lord of the Board KKnows
Good job nonetheless... I've pulled back with half a wrap... only because I suck at this way.... work smarter... not harder... good job man... you made it look easy... these other "roughneck" 😂😂 you know the oilfields... tall tales and bigger lies... everyone has a bigger story 😂😂😂
8" collars
You just gotta learn how to pull, I learned the hard way, forced you to figure it out. I pull BHA, Collars, whatever like they are drill pipe! Just stay hydrated if you cramp up, your done!
Nice driller to wait there with elevators most just continue with the trip you git no choice but to yank those suckers back!
This is not jacking back a collar ,this is tying a preset collar in Derrick via hydraulic bails
FYI its not jacking if it ain't swinging. I've heard and seen it all. Jacking with a TD lmoa
When you’re pulling pipe on a big rig you need to run The pull back rope through the third or fourth finger from the front. This way the pipe pivots back to you and it won’t get away from you so you can pull it back in the alley. I used to tie my pull back rope Back where my Derrick belt was tied 14 fingers and 18 rolws on one side 5 inch. Start out with my belt tied almost in the corner and move it as a Derrick Filled up. Use a clove hitch on your pull back rope so you can keep letting it out
Yes correct.
These guys say they are derrick men on a. Top drive a true derrick man dose it on a kelly rig
John Gonzalez no mule line either!!!🤘🏻🎸
kelly rigs are done.. where's the wind wall at?
John Gonzalez idiot
Smarter using your rotary table and get ready
That's not jacking collars...jacking is on a Kelly/swinging blocks. Wrap the rope, unlatch and give it hell...one rope not 2!!
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Worst thing I encountered pulling 8” was when the worm set the stand on the rotary table . Neither I or drill was watching downstairs. I unlatched and was setting it back when I heard “latch it up, worm f.cked up. The stand was like 15 foot above the board . Collar nubbings had 4 foot of play. I wasn’t on the board but I watched a driller still have enough weight to twist out of a collar nubbing. Collar clamps are there for a reason.
Don't understand why these top drive kids think this is work ? So many of them on you tube .
motorman xxx u sound like a washed up hand, mad bcuz u never made it to drill. You did more work and got paid less, u couldn't make it in the oilfield today.....I made it in your oilfield and I'm still making it in the new one. Stop hating when you've never had to latch pipe in a derreck built for a topdrive(not converted), don't even have to touch elevators on a Kelly rig.
Better than a winch line
we used to latch on and yank, that sumbitch moved and we kept it moving
Next video you make pull it back like drill pipe you’ll be amazed how easy it is and wonder what you were doing screwing around on that day
Derrickhand needs to
swinging block with half a wrap best way to pull em just swing the half wrap and pull as it comes down open elevators as soon as it hits itll swing at you
I did it like that with a 9 inch DC once they are a little harder to get moving lol
only advise I would give to this after reading all the bs comments from keyboard warriors is that it's a lot easier to wrap collar rope under instead of over that way when your going in the hole the rope will unspiral and fall off the collar by itself instead of you having to do the work. I won't bash your work because the point is you got the collar back the way you like it. to each their own. 💯
Wrap the elevator rope around the the stands around in the board for leverage. They would have opened on the 1st pull
Nice
Week as hell with the extra rope. Sorry, just jack it back with a wrap and a half. H&P flex 3 rig 218 in Barnette shale. And 274 in eagle ford shale. Haven’t been in the patch for a long time now but when I was working derricks, a wrap and a half on 8” DC with a pull rope worked just fine.
Rather slow, if you are racking DC's manually, Driller sets pin on the table, it fall to the Derrickman, he ties it off securely, Driller picks up carefully, it will swing fast, crew set it down on the collar mat. watch your fingers
half a wrap is a lot easier
Half wrap that bad boy! Come on!
What was they building?
Not bad for a beginner.
What a worm he should have worked the board on the old. Rigs
We jaded handi collar back
Wants to learn these
2 ropes= soft
Nice
Real. Just shine the signal in the sky! I'll head up with my cape on!
Pretty slow especially when the link tilt doesn’t half the work for you.
Nice enough driller though. The guys I worked for would’ve had another stand up there broken off and waiting.
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I seen a hand get killed like that !
Use half wrap to pull it back. You’ll thank me later.
Good job ....
GOOd job
Make it a hell of a lot easier if you throw that wrap underneath...rookie 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
hell ya!!!!!
Is ths a joke or what ?...it starts with safetybelt it should be let out so you can only touch collar with your finger tips then use a half wrap. Soon as the collar touches down the elevators are off and that collar is coming to you fast ...
Gah damn.Slow as fuck hand.Get down from there and let daddy get it
last time I was on a rig working day had to come out hole for logs TD jump on the elevators they said o no we can't do that any more I said u mean I have to crawl my fat ass up that ladder u know not enough counter weight got up there yelled down to the floor give me 5 or 10 min. already forearm's cramping haha got to the derrick belt would not fit so I sash cored me in with three raps through the belt they would have shit if they knew I was 53 yrs. old I can still getter and of course half rap on collars 6 in. YEE YEE TEXAS PANHANDLE
that sounds like ME!!!!!!
Y r these videos in my feed
Wow dude u are super slow . Or new and green . You would not last on a Kelly rig . Those blocks are not supposed to be moving . Wow
he looks green . wasn't lining up elevators to unlatch
Haded
1979. To. 1989. Oil. Patch. Out. Of. Lafayette La.
justy one 6 1/2 DC too long time for this job :)
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It’s a shame there’s no old hands out there teaching these guys anymore. That’s just a 6 1/2 inch drill collar pull back like drill pipe. Plus that the top drive is pushing it back halfway for him. The old oil field is long gone
I’d be embarrassed to post this video on TH-cam. Try pulling an eight inch with half a wrap.
Wtf was that!!!
Lmfao
Is is a show of pain, not practice
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Way too slow, I had a Derikman in northern bc that weighed 150 lbs and he could get 6 1/4 doubles Back any where the boys could put them on the floor way faster than that 1 rope no assist
Sorry but that's not jacking that's something else but hey A for trying
too bad phone cameras were not in everyone's pocket in the 70s and 80s. we'd shown you girls how to jack back a drill collar. that shit is slow, slow, slow.
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This guy is slow as ffff