0:46 When I was younger, I lived in this area, quite often I walked past that building and noticed why the door looked so different to most others. This was back in the 80's, me and my brother knew there was more to it than most would have realised.
Just imagine the ones they must have now, this tech is over half a century old. pray to be right underneath it, cos the burns dont bare thinking about.
Very interesting, sadly the 2 doors leaning against the wall would be utterly useless as shown in Threads but I suppose it kept people quiet thinking they had a chance.
+Hayley Stewart that four minute warning would not give the average person time to remove and then prop up two doors, let alone get the other essentials ready to survive behind them in the unlikely event you lasted for the first 15 minutes.
The idea was to also have your passport. It would have made identifying the dead easier. At least that is what we were told in the RAF in the early 80s
@@IAMPLEDGE People would've been instructed to carry out these tasks during a major international crisis or escalation of tensions (approximately 72 hours before an expected nuclear attack), not during the 4 minute warning. However, even this would've not be a sufficient amount of time.
I always assumed it was more to stop the roof falling on you but the cremation theory makes sense. Annoys me that the people who started it will be safe and the thought of the bastards coming out to start it all again after is vile.
If you're at or near a Ground Zero you'd be fucked, but *IF* at a distance AND properly constructed in advance (admittedly two big IFs) the door shelter would provide adequate protection from blast effects and fallout. What's depicted in "Threads" is the fact that many people would temporize and wait until it was too late to do much.
Ah, happy days. Last summer I visited the old Royal Observer Corps post at Cuckfield in Sussex. It was the first time that I had been on a post since 1989. I'm convinced that the entrance shaft had shrunk as I struggled to get in. For a few minutes I was a sixteen year old Observer again.
These bunkers would not have survived a surface burst near miss. The largest nuke if exploded on the surface would dig a crater several hundred feet deep and crush anything much farther below. Bottom line: If you're very close to ground zero, you're screwed no matter what.
Ground blasts are used for seats of government and ground silos holding nuclear missiles, Today it's a more precise affair with lower yield nuclear weapons likely to be used. There's Still more than 150 operational R.O.B bunkers, that can hold upto 6 if required. If you've ever come across them you'd have noticed there'd covered with a steel manhole cover which is locked, under there is a hatch that's padlocked. In the last 3 weeks the 3 that are within a few miles of me have all had locks replaced. And there's been extensive underground building work going on in Eastern Scotland, the site is fenced off and guarded, those working there are living on site in portacabins. Officially it's a water drainage system or that's what people assume.. Shortly after work started signs have appeared in adjacent fields saying " no drones, military training area".. Except there's no military training going on there and never has been, it's being built in what was a crop field, the surrounding area is farm land. No doubt similar building work has been going on in other parts of the country. One can only assume it's governmental underground facilities, and safe places for the Elite..
Nah, Paris, like many European capitals, has fallen victim to much worse than a nuclear weapon. And I can guarantee Paris will only have severely worsened since 2013.
Had I been a resident of the UK and old enough to appreciate the situation at the time, I feel that at times I would have had trouble sleeping. And I do not consider myself to be particularly highly strung or anxious. Just a spooky time to be alive.
I was a child during the 50s and 60s. We didn't worry. We just got on with our lives. What might have happened, might have happened - there was nothing the ordinary citizen could do about it. We certainly didn't have any "duck and cover" sort of nonsense, but the film "Protect and Survive" (available on You Tube) was risible.
It was always in the back of your mind, I suffered insomnia at times but didn’t link it with the cold war, although it must have had an unconcious effect, most of the time you didn’t think about it to be honest.
Having lived through the height of the cold war tensions as a teenager I readily admit that it gave me the fear. One especially bleak thing sticks in my mind, that was when a leaflet dropped through the letterbox one morning, a leaflet advising us how to prepare our homes for the possibility of a nuclear strike. That made it very real. Even now I have a morbid fascination with nuclear war.
Brian Lion every time president Reagan would talk with Gorbachev, we (the US) held our breath. When things didn’t go right between the two leaders and you would read it in the newspaper, it was pretty scary.
And now nine years later, that Putin pillock killed off the final nuclear reduction treaty by refusing to sign its extension yesterday. And we are being shuffled down that dark alley again. The one leading to M.A.D. Place. The one we'd all rejoiced in seeing bricked up decades ago. The one we'd all forgotten about. I hate to have to say this, but I'm feeling the initial murmurings of the same knot of hopelessness in the pit of my stomach last suffered back at the fag end of the Eighties. The feeling where your only consolation is that even the most self-involved dictator is still human deep down and therefore must have just enough common sense not to press the button...
regarding the Corsham complex: I've heard it said that there is a link between that complex and Box tunnel on the Bristol to London main line. Anybody know anything about that?
It's true. Beside the entrance to Box tunnel is a short branch line which goes into Box Hill. Read The Secret State or War Plan UK. Two excellent books that both uncover the history and intended Cold War usage for the Corsham complex.
I was born in the 1950s and like everyone else lived through this entire era without a second thought. Mind you it kept documentary makers and doomsdayers happy.
Growing up next to a Nike missile base and having family in the military gave me a different view. Nuclear war was a definite possibility, but luckily cooler heads prevailed, especially after the Cuban missile crisis. But any illusions of "civil defense" were patently ridiculous after the 1960s....
Michael Parrish doesn't seem to know what he's on about. The estimates for the Hiroshima bomb yield vary between 13 and 18kt, with the accepted value of 15-16kt. He neglected to consider the most lethal effect: The shock wave. Very unusual for local fallout to continue for 5 days. And near immediate death from fallout? Nah.
“Gov’t is to be protected at all costs.” Hey, if you’re a Brit watching this, you can take some small consolation in that fact the US is the same fucking way.
@@TheShootist many communist countries accross the former soviet block have alot of shelters for the general public. ithink Sweden does too,. Germany has protected shelters for 3% of its population, Austria for 30%, Finland for 70%, Sweden for 81%, and Switzerland for 114%. . Sweden where 70 percent of the worlds gold is bought
Mentioned is the cynical view that the in home shelter constructions were as much to make disposal of bodies less laborous. It is a thought. Having a doomed populous's bodies generally in one room under a heap would also make harvesting the household usables safer. Safer... For those unfortunate enough to face that slower, even more lingering death, and later, for others living even longer, perhaps. Oh Mother.
I recall seeing Protect & Survive videos on early Sunday mornings while visiting from the states to relatives who ran a B&B In Sheffield Uk I’m the early 80’s. Those were scary.Then a couple years later I saw Threads BBC which took place in all places in Sheffield. Gave me nightmares, and panic attacks for over a fortnight, and thinking of how my My uncle Pete his partner Ken on how Screwed they would be. They’re gone now. :( The US version called The Day After had nothing on Threads. Conclusion..Both P&S and Threads save message: War goes nuclear. Yer F’d no matter how set up and ready you are.
The main point of "duck & cover" is to protect against the immediate effects of a nuclear blast - the heat pulse and flying debris from the blast wave, then get yourself to a fallout shelter ASAP after. If you're not too close to Ground Zero, you'll likely survive the initial wave of attack IF you shelter properly. If you're close to the detonation though, you're screwed no matter what.
IT'S HILARIOUS THAT THOSE HEROES WHO GIVE THE SAD ORDINARY CITIZEN ADVICE (WHICH IS TOTALLY USELESS AGAINST AN "H BOMB" ARE SAFELY IN THIS SUPPOSEDLY SAFE BUNKER. EVEN THAT HORRENDOUS FILM "THREADS" WAS A JOKE FOR THE NUMBER OF CITIZENS LEFT LIVING!!
I was a helicopter pilot and when we would run or start moving the Blue bloods. There is a real pecking order. I hated that regular people you and me. Wouldn't be kept.
Kelvedon Hatch was not built as a regional government centre, it was built as part of the RAF ROTOR network, which was responsible for UK air defence. Only after it became surplus to RAF needs, was it converted to civilian defence purposes.
@@louisbeerreviews8964 No, it is you that is wrong. Not only do I know what it was built for, but I even had a close relative in the RAF that served there.
The question i always would like to know the answer too is, If it's not affordable to build bunkers for the general public but it's affordable and must for government then who would the the government have to fight there war??? If there's no public left then I would of thought that would mean no army to fight and resources for the army if there is no public to produce the resources ?
It's a good question, but I would imagine that even the most hellish, Threads-type nuclear war would probably only kill about 65% of the population on X-Day. There would still be millions of starving, sick people to manage in the weeks and months afterwards. I would also imagine that a lot of these plans are based on situations where only a couple of missiles hit, rather than Armageddon.
@@jonboyjon1976One of the details in "Threads" that took me aback was the megatonnage of weapons used against Britain. As I understand the physics, the marginal economic cost of additional blast is virtually nil today. One might reasonably wonder why an attacked would not simply want to leave Britain a level, glassy plain. Yet, at least what we know of Western nuclear weapons is that as they have become presumptively more accurate, their yields have been reduced! For the sake of real victims of a nuclear attack on the UK (I honestly wonder if Northern Ireland is even targeted now that Belfast isn't a ship-building Goliath on the order of China or South Korea), let us hope that our adversaries employ a similar rule.
@@UtilityCurve I believe that Russia and China target not only Northern Ireland, but Ireland itself as it might be used as a safe haven for British/NATO forces, especially its harbours. But again, not every nuclear scenario is straight to Armageddon. Some have the use of a single warhead as a "demonstration"
Ironically the Soviets would have been fully aware of the locations where the political rats would have sheltered in a nuclear attack and would have targeted said shelters anyway.
+BuggritHall Yes, considering many of the people that have been in Labour governments were communist comrades themselves. No doubt they would have sold secrets.
I can think of at least one Labour ponce who may not have been a commie, but he's certainly a 100% war criminal, whom, given half a chance would've cherished the thought of pressing the button, as war was the ONLY way he knew how
Much like the United States. Draw a line south west from El Paso Texas north east to Abilene Texas then to Ft. Worth then north east again to Joplin Missouri then due north of that right up to Canada. Place your bombs 50 miles either side of that and you eliminate 66% of the united states minute man missiles and 7 SAC bases. You also contaminate the food growing regions of the USA.
There was some belief in Soviet military thinking that they should not target some of the leadership though as it helps to have someone left to surrender. The alternative is the leadership dies, the submariners open the letters of the resort and retaliate.
@@toddbridges2411 do you really think that the Soviets would have seen the Labour party as true comrades in arms? Even the actual communist party in the UK would have been disbanded had the Soviets ever invaded.
It's also worth noting that many can't be requisitioned. Hack Green, Secure and safer than most has been modernised- A part of the thick, Outer wall was removed to provide an easier access point to members of the general public (It is now a museum). Obviously the £3 Million pad in the video would be unfit for it's original purpose, too.. The window would be no good.. Even with the application of some white paint.
Truthfully, while administering what might be left of the UK after an attack was part of the purpose of securing the government, the logic of deterrence demanded that government survive to massively retaliate, else there would be no reason for an adversary NOT to attack. Dark as the thought may be, these elaborate schemes and edifices were first and foremost the means by which the UK could be avenged. The logic of deterrence only operates to keep the peace if all parties are rational and absolutely convinced that the other parties would prefer to possibly exterminate humanity (certainly topple civilization, at least to Dark Age conditions) than allow survivors if those survivors would speak a different language. (Though the impetus to start a thermonuclear conflict would spring from the same dislike of foreign accents.) It is quite a comment on the human condition. Almost certainly, tribalism and xenophobia were essential to the survival of the first members of the genus Homo, but talk about diminishing returns once those increasingly hairless apes figured out how to split and fuse nuclei. One hopes that there is little uranium on Mars. An interesting thought problem: Is stepping through the atomic door inevitably prior to becoming a space-faring species? Unfortunately, it seems to me that it is, as the photovoltaic effect (the computers aboard alien spacecraft are not going to be steam-powered) presumes some knowledge of atomic theory and eventually those alien scientists WILL want to know what is powering their local star.
Now there's injection/ unt-nuke injection stoping been vaporised , blowing by the winds as well radio active , bunkers are just like burying people alive
I would hope that there's no "re-activating" to be done. Meaning that the powers that be want us to think that every nuclear bunker has been decommissioned and sold. Taking my reasoning from the state of many of the post-war tunnels to be seen on the myriad fascinating Urbex videos. The number of working lifts and power and lighting circuits in the supposedly abandoned in the 90s bunkers would suggest that they're just sleeping. By extension, those that we're meant not to know of or to have forgotten about are gently resting down there, used for filing dusty white papers or for storing NBC suits by the hundred thousand. I hope!
I'm at a lose as to why both the Uk and USA don't utilize these abandoned bunkers especially ones that a still in solid shell conditions the ones the structures are sound and aren't used to house homeless, or even better prisoners. Many should be preserved as historical places and structures.
Run toward the brilliant light children for to survive alongside the cream of Civil Service automatons, Government Officials and Local Authority retentives only completes the enemy terror.
See, they always see what HMG lets them see, after WW2 a massive building programme was undertaken that extended the Whitehall plot into a small city but Thatcher bridled against the sheer volume of cash needed to keep this and it was truncated to something more cheap. There were also exit doors installed to the deeper tube lines and special arrangements to ensure underground trains could exit to the waiting BR trains at Wimbledon and other cross network sites. Funny thing was I was doing my nurse training in Brentwood whilst KH was still active, the best kept not secret to the locals, I even remember it coming up in a quiz nite lol Today though, with the beligerance between east and west the nuclear spectre is once again a thing, with America continually poking the bear and dragon, Putin and Xi are both chaps who would use nukes far earlier than us in the west would...
I guess the Elite/Rich & governments will be looked after the rest of the population is doomed☹️Who would want to survive after a nuclear attack anyway they will be the lucky wons
@@hankbankster9700 I think a very small percentage of mankind would survive but their lives would be shorter due to radiation. I like what someone said years ago, "the next war will be fought with nuclear weapons, the one after that will be fought with stones and clubs".
They took your 25 acres from you? I think your father should have read into the law before he purchased land in the UK.. Use are living on the royal families land n they have the right to take it back whenever they feel like it n don't have to offer a penny, Your lucky they made him an offer tbh cause it is the law.. If that happened in the USA land of the free would be a different story. You are basically renting land it doesn't belong to you.
0:46 When I was younger, I lived in this area, quite often I walked past that building and noticed why the door looked so different to most others. This was back in the 80's, me and my brother knew there was more to it than most would have realised.
if you get caught out in the open during a nuclear attack your f**ked!!! you wont need to worrie about lying down lol!.great video!thx for sharing.
Just imagine the ones they must have now, this tech is over half a century old. pray to be right underneath it, cos the burns dont bare thinking about.
Very interesting, sadly the 2 doors leaning against the wall would be utterly useless as shown in Threads but I suppose it kept people quiet thinking they had a chance.
+Hayley Stewart that four minute warning would not give the average person time to remove and then prop up two doors, let alone get the other essentials ready to survive behind them in the unlikely event you lasted for the first 15 minutes.
The idea was to also have your passport. It would have made identifying the dead easier. At least that is what we were told in the RAF in the early 80s
@@IAMPLEDGE People would've been instructed to carry out these tasks during a major international crisis or escalation of tensions (approximately 72 hours before an expected nuclear attack), not during the 4 minute warning. However, even this would've not be a sufficient amount of time.
I always assumed it was more to stop the roof falling on you but the cremation theory makes sense.
Annoys me that the people who started it will be safe and the thought of the bastards coming out to start it all again after is vile.
If you're at or near a Ground Zero you'd be fucked, but *IF* at a distance AND properly constructed in advance (admittedly two big IFs) the door shelter would provide adequate protection from blast effects and fallout. What's depicted in "Threads" is the fact that many people would temporize and wait until it was too late to do much.
The dry morbid wit of the experts is sublime.
Thank you for uploading this!
Fascinating. Thanks for uploading.
Ah, happy days.
Last summer I visited the old Royal Observer Corps post at Cuckfield in Sussex. It was the first time that I had been on a post since 1989. I'm convinced that the entrance shaft had shrunk as I struggled to get in. For a few minutes I was a sixteen year old Observer again.
These bunkers would not have survived a surface burst near miss. The largest nuke if exploded on the surface would dig a crater several hundred feet deep and crush anything much farther below. Bottom line: If you're very close to ground zero, you're screwed no matter what.
Ground blasts are used for seats of government and ground silos holding nuclear missiles, Today it's a more precise affair with lower yield nuclear weapons likely to be used.
There's Still more than 150 operational R.O.B bunkers, that can hold upto 6 if required.
If you've ever come across them you'd have noticed there'd covered with a steel manhole cover which is locked, under there is a hatch that's padlocked.
In the last 3 weeks the 3 that are within a few miles of me have all had locks replaced.
And there's been extensive underground building work going on in Eastern Scotland, the site is fenced off and guarded, those working there are living on site in portacabins.
Officially it's a water drainage system or that's what people assume..
Shortly after work started signs have appeared in adjacent fields saying " no drones, military training area"..
Except there's no military training going on there and never has been, it's being built in what was a crop field, the surrounding area is farm land.
No doubt similar building work has been going on in other parts of the country.
One can only assume it's governmental underground facilities, and safe places for the Elite..
I visited Paris in 2013. I am pretty sure it has been attacked by nuclear weapons. It was filthy.
That is sad to read.
Nah, Paris, like many European capitals, has fallen victim to much worse than a nuclear weapon.
And I can guarantee Paris will only have severely worsened since 2013.
Diversity is a strength don’t you know.
Paris smells like ammonia or urine. It was so intolerable in places that people with lung issues would be at serious risk.
Aberdeen definitely took a hit in about 1985. It’s been really badly rebuilt as a shopping centre
I'm glad you enjoyed it :)
Had I been a resident of the UK and old enough to appreciate the situation at the time, I feel that at times I would have had trouble sleeping. And I do not consider myself to be particularly highly strung or anxious. Just a spooky time to be alive.
I was a child during the 50s and 60s. We didn't worry. We just got on with our lives. What might have happened, might have happened - there was nothing the ordinary citizen could do about it. We certainly didn't have any "duck and cover" sort of nonsense, but the film "Protect and Survive" (available on You Tube) was risible.
I grew up in the 80s, close enough to Heathrow that had we been attacked we would have been vapourised
It was always in the back of your mind, I suffered insomnia at times but didn’t link it with the cold war, although it must have had an unconcious effect, most of the time you didn’t think about it to be honest.
I saw threads in august 1985 when I was 9, it absolutely destroyed me for the next few years.
Having lived through the height of the cold war tensions as a teenager I readily admit that it gave me the fear. One especially bleak thing sticks in my mind, that was when a leaflet dropped through the letterbox one morning, a leaflet advising us how to prepare our homes for the possibility of a nuclear strike. That made it very real. Even now I have a morbid fascination with nuclear war.
Thanks for uploading
EVERYONE in the vicinity of England needs to visit the "Secret" Nuclear Bunker in Kelvedon Hatch, Essex. You'll never be quite the same again.
Awesome documentary, thanks for the post. It must have been pretty creep to have lived back then.
Back then it was a case of when not if we got nuked. We're scary times
Brian Lion every time president Reagan would talk with Gorbachev, we (the US) held our breath. When things didn’t go right between the two leaders and you would read it in the newspaper, it was pretty scary.
@@brianlion9494 I remember in school when I was young weed have civial defence ddrillls
And now nine years later, that Putin pillock killed off the final nuclear reduction treaty by refusing to sign its extension yesterday.
And we are being shuffled down that dark alley again. The one leading to M.A.D. Place. The one we'd all rejoiced in seeing bricked up decades ago. The one we'd all forgotten about.
I hate to have to say this, but I'm feeling the initial murmurings of the same knot of hopelessness in the pit of my stomach last suffered back at the fag end of the Eighties. The feeling where your only consolation is that even the most self-involved dictator is still human deep down and therefore must have just enough common sense not to press the button...
That depot is in the film the numbers station.
4 minutes, I would barely have time to shit my pants.
thanks saw this ages ago, know of any other "London Nuclear War" Documentaries? (like Guide to Armageddon)
Good post, thanks.
Brilliant to show to my class
The government guys would be stuck in the bunker far longer than three weeks and starve to death in their little sardine can.
regarding the Corsham complex: I've heard it said that there is a link between that complex and Box tunnel on the Bristol to London main line. Anybody know anything about that?
Hugh Tierney Tierney It's as much of an urban legend as the strategic steam engine reserve.
It's true. Beside the entrance to Box tunnel is a short branch line which goes into Box Hill. Read The Secret State or War Plan UK. Two excellent books that both uncover the history and intended Cold War usage for the Corsham complex.
@@chrishenniker5944 Utter bolox. Do some research.
@@thewomble1509 Thanks for that. Those books sound like they'd definately be worth a read.
@@hughtierneytierney3585 They are. No worries my friend.👍
When was this aired? Seems to be from around 1998 to 2000ish.
2001
I was born in the 1950s and like everyone else lived through this entire era without a second thought. Mind you it kept documentary makers and doomsdayers happy.
Growing up next to a Nike missile base and having family in the military gave me a different view. Nuclear war was a definite possibility, but luckily cooler heads prevailed, especially after the Cuban missile crisis. But any illusions of "civil defense" were patently ridiculous after the 1960s....
with all the rogue nations out there with nuclear weapons, i an willing to bet that there are still some more bunkers still in operation.
That would not suprise me, probably been updated too
Michael Parrish doesn't seem to know what he's on about.
The estimates for the Hiroshima bomb yield vary between 13 and 18kt, with the accepted value of 15-16kt.
He neglected to consider the most lethal effect: The shock wave.
Very unusual for local fallout to continue for 5 days.
And near immediate death from fallout?
Nah.
Ground-burst explosions would throw considerably more fallout into the air, which would continue to deposit itself for at least a couple of weeks.
@@snidelywhiplash Not locally.
@@Evan_Bell Correct. However, you'd be subject to deposition of fallout from targeted places for a couple hundred miles upwind.
(C) 2001 Carlton TV, for those interested. Funny, I would've guessed at least 1995 or so.
Thank you for sharing :)
The London Whitehall tunnels were dropped in the early 1970s!
“Gov’t is to be protected at all costs.” Hey, if you’re a Brit watching this, you can take some small consolation in that fact the US is the same fucking way.
How old is this documentary.?
The Early Warming Siren really scares me.
The threats have gone away? Drinking the coolade!
The elite were loathsome then, and still are today.
COG is very real. Russia, North Korea, China, and Irain still went to kill the West.
continuity of government is more important than your sad little life, I tell you what.
@@TheShootist many communist countries accross the former soviet block have alot of shelters for the general public. ithink Sweden does too,. Germany has protected shelters for 3% of its population, Austria for 30%, Finland for 70%, Sweden for 81%, and Switzerland for 114%. . Sweden where 70 percent of the worlds gold is bought
@@u.kairrifleshuntingtargeta9438 yes. much fuss was made in USSR about shelters. fat lot of good it did anyone.
Those lean to shelters are ridiculous!!!~~~ :\
Mentioned is the cynical view that the in home shelter constructions were as much to make disposal of bodies less laborous. It is a thought. Having a doomed populous's bodies generally in one room under a heap would also make harvesting the household usables safer. Safer... For those unfortunate enough to face that slower, even more lingering death, and later, for others living even longer, perhaps. Oh Mother.
I recall seeing Protect & Survive videos on early Sunday mornings while visiting from the states to relatives who ran a B&B In Sheffield Uk I’m the early 80’s. Those were scary.Then a couple years later I saw Threads BBC which took place in all places in Sheffield. Gave me nightmares, and panic attacks for over a fortnight, and thinking of how my My uncle Pete his partner Ken on how Screwed they would be. They’re gone now. :( The US version called The Day After had nothing on Threads.
Conclusion..Both P&S and Threads save message: War goes nuclear. Yer F’d no matter how set up and ready you are.
Any volunteers to go outside and change the cassettes, 60 seconds after the blast? 😄😄
The whole premise of "duck & cover" always makes me wonder if that was just for comforts sake or if it actually works
It made sense in the early 50's. Quickly became outdated though.
It totally does, but only against a single weapon. if society has ended you may as well just go outside and look at it.
It does if your far enough away. Otherwise kiss your sweet ass goodbye.
Duck and cover the bom has heat I mean youd get badly hurt
The main point of "duck & cover" is to protect against the immediate effects of a nuclear blast - the heat pulse and flying debris from the blast wave, then get yourself to a fallout shelter ASAP after.
If you're not too close to Ground Zero, you'll likely survive the initial wave of attack IF you shelter properly. If you're close to the detonation though, you're screwed no matter what.
IT'S HILARIOUS THAT THOSE HEROES WHO GIVE THE SAD ORDINARY CITIZEN ADVICE (WHICH IS TOTALLY USELESS AGAINST AN "H BOMB" ARE SAFELY IN THIS SUPPOSEDLY SAFE BUNKER. EVEN THAT HORRENDOUS FILM "THREADS" WAS A JOKE FOR THE NUMBER OF CITIZENS LEFT LIVING!!
No sense surviving a nuclear war.
Yuo can
I was a helicopter pilot and when we would run or start moving the Blue bloods. There is a real pecking order. I hated that regular people you and me. Wouldn't be kept.
Kelvedon Hatch was not built as a regional government centre, it was built as part of the RAF ROTOR network, which was responsible for UK air defence. Only after it became surplus to RAF needs, was it converted to civilian defence purposes.
Wrong
@@louisbeerreviews8964 No, it is you that is wrong. Not only do I know what it was built for, but I even had a close relative in the RAF that served there.
UK Government: "People? Fuck em."
is anyone going to question why...why have government without people?
6:59 The Backrooms
700MPH winds jeeesss, I think I'd make a turbine to power my windmill that will power my turbine to power my stereo
Any fish?
They want to make sure you're completely incineratored. At least they are being honest.
Nuclear war => Nuclear winter => everyone dead, bunker or no bunker
The question i always would like to know the answer too is, If it's not affordable to build bunkers for the general public but it's affordable and must for government then who would the the government have to fight there war??? If there's no public left then I would of thought that would mean no army to fight and resources for the army if there is no public to produce the resources ?
It's a good question, but I would imagine that even the most hellish, Threads-type nuclear war would probably only kill about 65% of the population on X-Day. There would still be millions of starving, sick people to manage in the weeks and months afterwards.
I would also imagine that a lot of these plans are based on situations where only a couple of missiles hit, rather than Armageddon.
@@jonboyjon1976One of the details in "Threads" that took me aback was the megatonnage of weapons used against Britain. As I understand the physics, the marginal economic cost of additional blast is virtually nil today. One might reasonably wonder why an attacked would not simply want to leave Britain a level, glassy plain.
Yet, at least what we know of Western nuclear weapons is that as they have become presumptively more accurate, their yields have been reduced!
For the sake of real victims of a nuclear attack on the UK (I honestly wonder if Northern Ireland is even targeted now that Belfast isn't a ship-building Goliath on the order of China or South Korea), let us hope that our adversaries employ a similar rule.
@@UtilityCurve I believe that Russia and China target not only Northern Ireland, but Ireland itself as it might be used as a safe haven for British/NATO forces, especially its harbours. But again, not every nuclear scenario is straight to Armageddon. Some have the use of a single warhead as a "demonstration"
fascinating
Im guessing that bunker is ready to go.
Those politicians are more than happy to spend your tax dollars to build bunkers for themselves.
We don’t have tax dollars.
Ironically the Soviets would have been fully aware of the locations where the political rats would have sheltered in a nuclear attack and would have targeted said shelters anyway.
+BuggritHall Yes, considering many of the people that have been in Labour governments were communist comrades themselves. No doubt they would have sold secrets.
I can think of at least one Labour ponce who may not have been a commie, but he's certainly a 100% war criminal, whom, given half a chance would've cherished the thought of pressing the button, as war was the ONLY way he knew how
Much like the United States. Draw a line south west from El Paso Texas north east to Abilene Texas then to Ft. Worth then north east again to Joplin Missouri then due north of that right up to Canada. Place your bombs 50 miles either side of that and you eliminate 66% of the united states minute man missiles and 7 SAC bases. You also contaminate the food growing regions of the USA.
There was some belief in Soviet military thinking that they should not target some of the leadership though as it helps to have someone left to surrender. The alternative is the leadership dies, the submariners open the letters of the resort and retaliate.
@@toddbridges2411 do you really think that the Soviets would have seen the Labour party as true comrades in arms? Even the actual communist party in the UK would have been disbanded had the Soviets ever invaded.
It's also worth noting that many can't be requisitioned. Hack Green, Secure and safer than most has been modernised- A part of the thick, Outer wall was removed to provide an easier access point to members of the general public (It is now a museum). Obviously the £3 Million pad in the video would be unfit for it's original purpose, too.. The window would be no good.. Even with the application of some white paint.
Maybe the UK should be buying them back and refurbishing them - pretty shortsighted to think they'll never be needed
Any reason why THE MUSIC IS SO LOUD?
beware of the sharp edged weapon called human being
Those killed in the blast are the lucky ones
I wonder who the " government" thought they were going to " govern"
if all the people were gone.
Such is the arrogance of those that rule.
Truthfully, while administering what might be left of the UK after an attack was part of the purpose of securing the government, the logic of deterrence demanded that government survive to massively retaliate, else there would be no reason for an adversary NOT to attack.
Dark as the thought may be, these elaborate schemes and edifices were first and foremost the means by which the UK could be avenged.
The logic of deterrence only operates to keep the peace if all parties are rational and absolutely convinced that the other parties would prefer to possibly exterminate humanity (certainly topple civilization, at least to Dark Age conditions) than allow survivors if those survivors would speak a different language. (Though the impetus to start a thermonuclear conflict would spring from the same dislike of foreign accents.) It is quite a comment on the human condition.
Almost certainly, tribalism and xenophobia were essential to the survival of the first members of the genus Homo, but talk about diminishing returns once those increasingly hairless apes figured out how to split and fuse nuclei.
One hopes that there is little uranium on Mars. An interesting thought problem: Is stepping through the atomic door inevitably prior to becoming a space-faring species? Unfortunately, it seems to me that it is, as the photovoltaic effect (the computers aboard alien spacecraft are not going to be steam-powered) presumes some knowledge of atomic theory and eventually those alien scientists WILL want to know what is powering their local star.
"It's not really work, it's just the power to talk" David Bowie
Daddy Daddy get me out of here!! I'm underground!!!!!! David Bowie!!!
*charm
Great times. Now, you can rebuild from nothing again. 😮😢
Don't let the politicians
They wouldn't be requisitioned, they're outdated but would be good for civilians. Does anybody know where the new bunkers are? LOL
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No bunkers built since 1992, who told you that?
Sound Media
I know where one is located near me
Andrew Hall I know where one is too.
Now there's injection/ unt-nuke injection stoping been vaporised , blowing by the winds as well radio active , bunkers are just like burying people alive
I'm pretty sure a warhead could easily wipe out London and a city like Paris with relative ease.
Wouldn't London be a primary target of multiple ICBM's in case of war so wouldn't this bunker be wiped out with the rest of London?
With the war in Ukraine raging, they might want to consider re-activating the bunkers.
I would hope that there's no "re-activating" to be done. Meaning that the powers that be want us to think that every nuclear bunker has been decommissioned and sold.
Taking my reasoning from the state of many of the post-war tunnels to be seen on the myriad fascinating Urbex videos. The number of working lifts and power and lighting circuits in the supposedly abandoned in the 90s bunkers would suggest that they're just sleeping.
By extension, those that we're meant not to know of or to have forgotten about are gently resting down there, used for filing dusty white papers or for storing NBC suits by the hundred thousand. I hope!
I'm at a lose as to why both the Uk and USA don't utilize these abandoned bunkers especially ones that a still in solid shell conditions the ones the structures are sound and aren't used to house homeless, or even better prisoners. Many should be preserved as historical places and structures.
There's one in Essex that's a museum and you can visit it
@@ajc94 Someone on the Essex Council was using their capitalist spirit! I approve! Will check into it!
I’d be PISSED OFF if I survived lol
Not me
Run toward the brilliant light children for to survive alongside the cream of Civil Service automatons, Government Officials and Local Authority retentives only completes the enemy terror.
See, they always see what HMG lets them see, after WW2 a massive building programme was undertaken that extended the Whitehall plot into a small city but Thatcher bridled against the sheer volume of cash needed to keep this and it was truncated to something more cheap. There were also exit doors installed to the deeper tube lines and special arrangements to ensure underground trains could exit to the waiting BR trains at Wimbledon and other cross network sites. Funny thing was I was doing my nurse training in Brentwood whilst KH was still active, the best kept not secret to the locals, I even remember it coming up in a quiz nite lol Today though, with the beligerance between east and west the nuclear spectre is once again a thing, with America continually poking the bear and dragon, Putin and Xi are both chaps who would use nukes far earlier than us in the west would...
Bring it on...this world is fucked anyway.
I guess the Elite/Rich & governments will be looked after the rest of the population is doomed☹️Who would want to survive after a nuclear attack anyway they will be the lucky wons
If such a nuclear war were to happen, humanity would have to work together in order to rebuild everything that was destroyed.
@@hankbankster9700 I think a very small percentage of mankind would survive but their lives would be shorter due to radiation. I like what someone said years ago, "the next war will be fought with nuclear weapons, the one after that will be fought with stones and clubs".
Mad - literally mad we’re not talking about collective farming we’re talking about a dead planet
Only difference is I got the keys 😂😂😂
yea if they wanted it he wouldnt have the keys for long..lol
Hi. Humans are a primitive species still. Ever wonder why extraterrestrials never stay? [mike drop] Thank you.
Wasn't most of these bunkers just glorified coffins.
+Professor6871 Pretty much, yeah. Saves the survivors the trouble of having to bury the millions of dead.
Rather Austere...
made in 2001
So they'd have been sitting pretty, while the rest of us fried! Makes you wonder what the bastards have got set up for themselves these days...
The stupid musical Sound in the background is the only disturbance in every Video.
They took your 25 acres from you? I think your father should have read into the law before he purchased land in the UK.. Use are living on the royal families land n they have the right to take it back whenever they feel like it n don't have to offer a penny, Your lucky they made him an offer tbh cause it is the law.. If that happened in the USA land of the free would be a different story. You are basically renting land it doesn't belong to you.
A good doc ruined by the silly spooky music. Adds nothing and is distracting
War Plan for nuclear war survival? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!