@@clos3078 if equating IQ45 with the current prez, than join the ‘brain-dead’ club. More seriously the signage is likely on the river bank which can easily be missed if river is wide... they need buoy-mounted signs.
I’m baffled as to why you see this as common sense. When did it become common knowledge that low head dams are certified death traps? Sure, abide by the warning signs, but this a terrible engineering design to create something that drowns everyone that accidentally crosses it.
Not alot of people know this. If you get sucked under in a hydrolic don't fight it, dive down as far as you can and you will be spit out down stream. I white water raft and Kayak and this happens common, if you know what to do you can survive, most people panic try and fight it and end up exhausted and end up inhaling water and drown.Let it pull you down and swim with the current not against it. You'll pop up down stream. Amatures need not apply when it comes to water safety. Common sense also plays a role in saving your life. Get out when directed so. What a tragedy prayers for the kids.
@@michellejade3272 Yeah it's surprising that so many people lack common sense. . The technique that diving down in a hydrolic can save your life, doesn't negate the fact that one should stay away from a hydrolic wash. It's Not fool proof but good enough for fools.
Thanks I didn't know that. I had once tried to swim against a rip tide in the Atlantic Ocean and like you said I was exhausted. I let the tide carry me about a mile down the beach and I walked out.
Please put a floating line before the dam drops as a last resort to hold on and bail before you hit that drop, we use these on everydrop on the large aqueducts we have to save life's and it has countless times
Absolutely not, you can’t child proof the entire ecosystem. People need to learn responsibility, good judgement, and if not, it’s part of nature. This isn’t a National park or family entertainment center. Looks like a fast flowing, muddy river system. Enter at your own risk should be obvious.
My wife and I went on a canoeing trip that rented us a canoe, dropped us off 7 miles up the river, the water was low in the summer so we (walked) the majority of our trip before we knew it, it was dark. We expected to see an exit or highlighted place to get out and never seen any. The canoe rental company closed and went home. We """HEARD""" the splashing of the drop off type dam and jumped out just in time. How can you license a business to rent tubes, canoes, and kayaks to tourists where a simple mistake can take someone's life?
The canoe rental place was not down on the water. The exit from the river/creek was a small 6 - 8ft landing with a trail up through the woods 60 - 75 yards to the rental company. Zero signs on the river bank and a 8ft waterfall drop-off 100 yards past the place to exit. My wife and I were in our 20s at the time so we got lucky. The thing is, is your not familiar with the river (it was on a brochure at the welcome center entering the state). They never mentioned a drop off or that the river was low requiring us to carry the canoe for 4 or 5 of the 7 miles. No honor in those people.
They probably didn't realize how dangerous it was. The one girl said that everyone in her family went over but she was holding on to a tree. She let it go to follow them. So they probably thought it was fun.
I've come to the conclusion that it's gone extinct right along with common courtesy and having a heart at least from my experience day after day state after state person after person!
@@helenhunter4540 we shouldn't need a fing sign for everything common sense has its purks if you die doing something that dangerous then you shouldn't be here if we put more fing signs up more retards are going to breed
People should read the warning signs and abide by them. But on the other hand, these dams shouldn’t be engineered in a way that results in a death sentence for all accidents when they do occur. It’s a blatant engineering blunder considering their otherwise benign appearance.
this. Low head dams look benign but they are anything but. That back boil traps you and it drowns you. And there is often times enough aeration to the water that it will still drown you even if you have a PFD on.
& people still don’t read them or instructions. I watch a lot of reviews and people do simple things that it clearly says not to do 😂 we give too much power to people #MERICA
Would have been nice to include some shots of the warning signs that the dam is coming up. Are they large signs which are placed so that they can't be missed or are they small signs with foliage blocking them from view.
@@michaelbauerle9182 A low head dam is difficult to see from upstream. And by the time you are aware of it you may not be able to get out in time. However, if you are going tubing (or canoeing or kayaking) you should know what is ahead of you on the river. There are plenty of resources to check what you are getting into before starting out.
Usually the warning signs are attached to a long steel cable over the river, the signs have stern warnings, they are hard to miss. Part of the problem seems to be people think it's someone else's responsibility to ***decide*** to get off the water, once you can see the dam it's difficult or impossible to get out of the river. So, basically, they think it's someone else who needs to do something, they aren't doing anything until it's too late.
@@frankblangeard8865 it also sounded like this happened at night so it would’ve been dark. Maybe too dark to see warning signs? Not sure. I want to see the signs too
Usually the warning signs are attached to a long steel cable over the river, the signs have stern warnings, they are hard to miss. Part of the problem seems to be people think it's someone else's responsibility to ***decide*** to get off the water, once you can see the dam it's difficult or impossible to get out of the river. So, basically, they think it's someone else who needs to do something, they aren't doing anything until it's too late.
The newscast I saw stated they didn’t start up the river till shortly after 7:30pm and rescue is assuming they reached the dam after dark, giving they’re with most or all that can’t swim and with no life jackets, and with the adults they’re unsure if alcohol was involved. I’m on the east coast of NC and it starts getting dark here around 8:15pm, it’s a real shame. The news stated some weren’t locals, but from Virginia, but the locals should have known of the dam and it’s dangers and certainly not to go right at dusk, with non-swimmers, with no life jackets for anyone. Do people even consider the consequences of their actions?
@@mamatried6340 Almost like things such as Google Maps/Google Earth don't exist these days. I hate it for these folks but really, locals or not, it's not that hard to scout out a river to find features like low heads before you even make the drive or put in. You can see this shit WAY ahead of time. It's gotta suck to realize you're running up on a dam in a fucking tube after dark but people need to learn to do a little research before they just say fuck it and hit the water with no inclination as to where they're going. Hate it for them but Darwin wins.
The cables on the dam I boat on the Ct. River you could not get by. There is plenty of blame to go around. Put the dam cables and barrels up for god sake, yes people make mistakes.
Why do people say every danger should be taught in schools, as though teachers aren’t already required to teach everything under the sun??? It seems every time there’s an accident causing death, people start calling for schools to take it on, so silly! The only skill people needed to avoid this tragedy was reading, bc the sheriff said there were signs posted.
Why would these adults are family members allow little children to get on here and no vests even so with that you can drown what is wrong with people oh my God these poor children I blamed the parents
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TIME: _-__1:39__-_ Innertube & purple baby life jacket bouncing against the dam falls. Could those be involved. Are the occupants stuck in the falls riff ? The dam can be blocked in the center allowing the water to spill over on both sides of the dam.
That's exactly what they thought. The girl said that she was scared at first so she was holding on to the tree. Once everyone went over she let go and went also. Than she said that they didn't see the dam.
@@MayorGoldieWilson825 EXACTLY! I was confused also. The young lady that survived said that she was scared when they saw the dam so she was holding on to a tree. Than she said since everyone went over she let go of the tree and went over. That's what she said. I was confused on why she would follow unless it was planned. Watch her interview
Low head damns are bad news some below are saying don’t fight it but that’s not always a guarantee … best option don’t go over a low head damn unless you are skilled in doing so.
A rescue line with 50 buoys is laying about on the North side of the river, right in front of the dam. Zoom in on Google maps and see for yourself. This was criminal negligence.
It was probably broken by floating debris... Some higher up decided it was cheaper to leave it detached, then to spend the couple hundred bucks to fix it and potentially save HUMAN LIFE. Tale as old as time.......... People die as boss man thrives...
No one had life jackets on? Or a phone in a safety case? You always got to be prepared for the worst. This is so sad.. I hope they find the 2 missing people..
Not to mention multiple people did not know how to swim, and it was night time when they decided to do this, a whole bunch of stupid mixed together to create a very dangerous situation
They didn't go at night. They were still in the water at 7 pm when this happened, which at this time of year it's still light out. The 4 that they found alive had been trapped there in the water for over 19 hours. You could have found this out by doing a simple Google search. J T has already stated this comment
Man last week I watched a Practical Engineering video entitled "The most dangerous damns" and he specifically mentions low head damns as the most dangerous. I feel bad for the people who drowned.
Yeah, now we need safety warnings on the tubes. That is why you start tubing below a dam. But I bet lawyers will be suing Duke energy for not taking safety measures to stop idiots.
This is a guess. And only that. …. But the trend is. That dangerous things are becomming more appealing because of social media, because the hunt for likes and admiration from others when you can make some kind of documentation. …. The internet is a wonderful thing, but we the human race are not ready for this yet. The last years sadly show us so. More and more things, malevolent and plain stupidity not to mention hate thrives on the internet. ….. whether or not this is the case in this instance i don’t know. But it is comparable with people stepping close to the edge of a cliff to take the perfect selfie. Only to fall down and kill themself.
Yes there were. My guess is they didn't understand the whole concept of low dams. No one took the time to check it.... Maybe they had more strong swimmers with them, thinking they had upper hand... I'm unsure exactly, just unfortunate 🙏🏽🕊️🕊️🕊️
I don’t think they were reading anything they were probably chatting and by the time they realized the water took them. They were probably like in the middle of the river too hard to paddle to get to the edge. Who knows but they ignored the dangers. I’ve been tubing before got my self out before the dam pretty scary stuff. Will never do it again.only short distance. Water is not for humans.
They sent boats from VA to NC & NC to VA & saw nothing plus a helicopter went looking along the river - no need to risk lives of searchers at night when they looked in the daytime.
Why not have a cable strung across from one side to the other 3 feet above flood or high level with multiple signs on it warning of the dam? Usually there is a sign on the bank, overgrown by foliage that everyone misses. This might be a problem with fallen trees in the river but would give someone who made a mistake a chance to survive.
I hope the rescue team find them.looking at the muddy water it look 👀 like 🐊 Alligators live in the water. This is negligence no life vest the adults know better .
The relatives and friends need prayers now because they are suffering for their loved ones and they are probably feeling anguish and distress. May our lord Jesus Christ give them peace and healing in this terrible time.
As a strong swimmer, I went over a low head dam and was churned around and sucked back to the face dozens of times. Used every trick, diving to bottom, climbing dam face underwater, everything, could not get out. Passed out and somehow was finally ejected. These obstacles must be removed. Many have no warnings.
That one is an absolute beast! Look at how big that boil line is. Nearly impossible to escape that. How terrifying! I wonder how deep the water is between the dam and boil zone
This one is the worst I've seen. The boil is unusually tall and vicious looking. Can't help but want to test it with a creature craft. I think one of those boats could defeat it. But naaah I'd probably chicken out at the last minute.
When I worked in the fire service we had an incident when two young girls were floating on some Styrofoam down the Mississippi that they had obtained from a construction site the water didn’t appear to be moving very fast but then they came upon a barge one of the girls got stuck on some of the branch debris in front of the barge the other one went under it and that was the end of her it was very sad and there was nothing anybody could do once that occurred
Why are people tubing down that Big River. Were the People taken by a guide or just on there own. I am so Sorry for Everyone and The Families. I am Praying for Everyone.
Some of these comments must be paid by Duke energy or local forestry officials. No where on this video did the reporter or the sheriff say the family went tubing at night or did not have a life jacket ...or couldn't swim. Anyone who is saying such things are being paid. Plus, no family members are on this video to back up those lies. Also, if the river had signs posted nearby warning the public about the dam; ... then where are the pictures of the signs? I would like to know how big the sign is and what was actually written on the sign and whether the sign was visible at an appropriate height and placed near where tourist could read it. The reporter said there was "a sign" but didn't seem sure whether that was true.
You're kidding me! A seven year old?! WTF they are a dumb group of adults that put their children in a deadly situation for fun, simply put. RIP I feel so sad for those poor children. It's a terrible tragedy, but the surviving adults that were responsible for watching those children need to be held legally accountable
My grandson is almost 11 and can swim quite well. With that being said I would never take him tubing without a life vest! You need to think of what could happen ahead of time! Be prepared! This is so devastating to hear children so young tubing with no vest! My prayers go out to the families/family for such a huge and traumatic loss!
When it comes to low head dams, a life vest won't save you. The current will still pull you under and the air bubbles in the water cause you to lose buoyancy.
Who in their right mind would take babies out there in a raft in the first place, and THEN take them over a dam!? Some people don't use their common sense, which more often than not leads to extreme stupidity!
where the water spills over provably made a ledge and they are provably trapped right there ...looks are decieving if u dont know what your looking at might be small on top dont mean it is under
Where 's the bowey's(sp?) to show the upcoming dangers.? Or is it only in crazy California were we warn people of these things better than a sign on the side of the bank. ?
As a safety precaution to those who have abandoned all good common sense, stretch a high visibility cable from bank to bank, mounted to heavily secured concrete posts, about 20 or 30 feet before all low-head dams as a last resort. Run the cable through those large orange balls that you see on cables over highways to warn low flying aircraft. Suspended a couple of feet above the water, with the ability to maintain this constant height above the water level by a flotation system integrated into or near the anchoring concrete posts on the bank. If it saves 1 life, it is worth it!!!
@@patwest1815 that's a possibility. Out of all the things that can go wrong on a river, drowning because they didn't have a life vest is pretty high up on the list of statistics.
@@patwest1815 yeah, this is also important to know if you're ever on a plane the has to resort to a water landing or crash to have the pdf on but don't pull the handle until you've made it out of the vessel.
A man made obstacle was placed in the water that makes the navigation of that water dangerous. Nothing in the design of the dam was included to create any safety apparatus for people in the water.
The police officer said people typically pull the rafts out before the dam and start again downstream, which means plenty of people are allowed to go over it like these people did.
I mean I can think of 4 or 5 really good signs to keep you from going over. Big skulls, the word Death, maybe a 12 foot picture of a graveyard, at least some people can enjoy some nice artwork while they go over the low head dam.
Don't people make sure it's safe??.. no dam is a place to go tubing...this is so sad and unnecessary...be safe and know what to do in any situation...study the place you want to go to stay safe...my sympathies to the families concerned..hope they find the others alive and well!!!.,
I boat on the Ct. River and before the dam there is a steel cable with large barrels so it would be nearly impossible for you to go over the dam. This issue with this type of dam is well known. Why have they not installed a cable and barrels to resolve this issue? Yes I know they should have known better but they did not and I have seen similar stories before. Just put the cable up and end these tragedies. Do it now please.
Has some adult folks simply abandoned all common sense?
Do you see who is president or who our last president is? Yeah humanity is clearly brain dead.
@@clos3078 if equating IQ45 with the current prez, than join the ‘brain-dead’ club. More seriously the signage is likely on the river bank which can easily be missed if river is wide... they need buoy-mounted signs.
@@gr8dvd it’s then not than genius.
@@clos3078 No argument their 😀
...or there.
I’m baffled as to why you see this as common sense. When did it become common knowledge that low head dams are certified death traps? Sure, abide by the warning signs, but this a terrible engineering design to create something that drowns everyone that accidentally crosses it.
Sheriff knows those people have probably died but is keeping hope for hopes sake good guy.
That was very professional of him.
it's true.
Yes, he seems wonderful. So rare these days.
Not alot of people know this. If you get sucked under in a hydrolic don't fight it, dive down as far as you can and you will be spit out down stream. I white water raft and Kayak and this happens common, if you know what to do you can survive, most people panic try and fight it and end up exhausted and end up inhaling water and drown.Let it pull you down and swim with the current not against it. You'll pop up down stream. Amatures need not apply when it comes to water safety. Common sense also plays a role in saving your life. Get out when directed so. What a tragedy prayers for the kids.
Good to know thank you
Wow. That is life saving information.
Great points! I would think it’d be common sense but that’s less common.❤️😔
@@michellejade3272 Yeah it's surprising that so many people lack common sense. . The technique that diving down in a hydrolic can save your life, doesn't negate the fact that one should stay away from a hydrolic wash. It's Not fool proof but good enough for fools.
Thanks I didn't know that. I had once tried to swim against a rip tide in the Atlantic Ocean and like you said I was exhausted. I let the tide carry me about a mile down the beach and I walked out.
Please put a floating line before the dam drops as a last resort to hold on and bail before you hit that drop, we use these on everydrop on the large aqueducts we have to save life's and it has countless times
Not sure why this isn't a regulation. They should be mandatory:(
Absolutely not, you can’t child proof the entire ecosystem. People need to learn responsibility, good judgement, and if not, it’s part of nature. This isn’t a National park or family entertainment center. Looks like a fast flowing, muddy river system. Enter at your own risk should be obvious.
If they can't read the signs, what makes you think they're smart enough to grab hold of a line?
@@yashathebelgianmalinois348 yes dam is nature
@@cadavher - Regulation?!? What are you, a blue state democrat? The motto in this area is: Let them die!
My wife and I went on a canoeing trip that rented us a canoe, dropped us off 7 miles up the river, the water was low in the summer so we (walked) the majority of our trip before we knew it, it was dark. We expected to see an exit or highlighted place to get out and never seen any. The canoe rental company closed and went home. We """HEARD""" the splashing of the drop off type dam and jumped out just in time. How can you license a business to rent tubes, canoes, and kayaks to tourists where a simple mistake can take someone's life?
Limited liability corporation
How is it the company's fault
That’s not cool. I hope you took the canoe home after that.
The canoe rental place was not down on the water. The exit from the river/creek was a small 6 - 8ft landing with a trail up through the woods 60 - 75 yards to the rental company. Zero signs on the river bank and a 8ft waterfall drop-off 100 yards past the place to exit. My wife and I were in our 20s at the time so we got lucky. The thing is, is your not familiar with the river (it was on a brochure at the welcome center entering the state). They never mentioned a drop off or that the river was low requiring us to carry the canoe for 4 or 5 of the 7 miles. No honor in those people.
🤦🏾♀️😳😱 wow
Tubing over dam is not recommended
They probably didn't realize how dangerous it was. The one girl said that everyone in her family went over but she was holding on to a tree. She let it go to follow them. So they probably thought it was fun.
Common sense has been bred out of the human race.
I've come to the conclusion that it's gone extinct right along with common courtesy and having a heart at least from my experience day after day state after state person after person!
Who gets that close to the dam wtf is rong with people natural selection at its finest dam.
Watch City. THE DEAD PEOPLE ARE NOT TO BLAME!!!!!
THE IDIOTS WHO ALLOW TUBING ON THIS WATER ARE TO BLAME!!!! DUH!!!
@@helenhunter4540 we shouldn't need a fing sign for everything common sense has its purks if you die doing something that dangerous then you shouldn't be here if we put more fing signs up more retards are going to breed
'Murica.
The blame of this tragic situation falls solely on the tubers.
It does but that doesn't lessen the tragedy of it...especially since there were so many children involved. The adults made the choice for them.
People should read the warning signs and abide by them. But on the other hand, these dams shouldn’t be engineered in a way that results in a death sentence for all accidents when they do occur. It’s a blatant engineering blunder considering their otherwise benign appearance.
People don't kill people. Low head Dams kill people
So this is not a River people regularly tube?
Excet the kids
People do not understand the power of water even if you don’t think there’s a current it can be there
Bodies must be trapped against the dam wall. They're not coming out from under there.
Makes you wonder how many others could be trapped down there
This is horrible and had to have been absolutely terrifying for the children 😔
They recovered all of the bodies 😔 ages 27, 30, 14 ,7
A low head dam is a death machine. The bodies are probably still swirling around by the dropoff.
this. Low head dams look benign but they are anything but. That back boil traps you and it drowns you. And there is often times enough aeration to the water that it will still drown you even if you have a PFD on.
Thats disturbing.
@@tplummer217 terribly
This is the reason we have warning labels on everything now.
But who'd have ever thought hot coffee poured into your lap would burn?
Keep Away From Fire is my favorite since that should be pretty obvious unless it is something you are intending to burn.
My old Firestone 10 / 20.00 don't say anything at all about staying away from dams.
@@howiedewin3688 or don't stick your hand in the blender while it's running! Yes that is a warning!
& people still don’t read them or instructions. I watch a lot of reviews and people do simple things that it clearly says not to do 😂 we give too much power to people #MERICA
Would have been nice to include some shots of the warning signs that the dam is coming up. Are they large signs which are placed so that they can't be missed or are they small signs with foliage blocking them from view.
Yes sir, Asking all the right questions.
If you can see the dam then get out of the water they killed them selves.
@@michaelbauerle9182 A low head dam is difficult to see from upstream. And by the time you are aware of it you may not be able to get out in time. However, if you are going tubing (or canoeing or kayaking) you should know what is ahead of you on the river. There are plenty of resources to check what you are getting into before starting out.
Usually the warning signs are attached to a long steel cable over the river, the signs have stern warnings, they are hard to miss. Part of the problem seems to be people think it's someone else's responsibility to ***decide*** to get off the water, once you can see the dam it's difficult or impossible to get out of the river. So, basically, they think it's someone else who needs to do something, they aren't doing anything until it's too late.
@@frankblangeard8865 it also sounded like this happened at night so it would’ve been dark. Maybe too dark to see warning signs? Not sure. I want to see the signs too
Usually the warning signs are attached to a long steel cable over the river, the signs have stern warnings, they are hard to miss. Part of the problem seems to be people think it's someone else's responsibility to ***decide*** to get off the water, once you can see the dam it's difficult or impossible to get out of the river. So, basically, they think it's someone else who needs to do something, they aren't doing anything until it's too late.
The newscast I saw stated they didn’t start up the river till shortly after 7:30pm and rescue is assuming they reached the dam after dark, giving they’re with most or all that can’t swim and with no life jackets, and with the adults they’re unsure if alcohol was involved. I’m on the east coast of NC and it starts getting dark here around 8:15pm, it’s a real shame. The news stated some weren’t locals, but from Virginia, but the locals should have known of the dam and it’s dangers and certainly not to go right at dusk, with non-swimmers, with no life jackets for anyone. Do people even consider the consequences of their actions?
@@mamatried6340 Almost like things such as Google Maps/Google Earth don't exist these days. I hate it for these folks but really, locals or not, it's not that hard to scout out a river to find features like low heads before you even make the drive or put in. You can see this shit WAY ahead of time. It's gotta suck to realize you're running up on a dam in a fucking tube after dark but people need to learn to do a little research before they just say fuck it and hit the water with no inclination as to where they're going. Hate it for them but Darwin wins.
The cables on the dam I boat on the Ct. River you could not get by. There is plenty of blame to go around. Put the dam cables and barrels up for god sake, yes people make mistakes.
This should be taught in schools every year.
Everywhere!!
Why do people say every danger should be taught in schools, as though teachers aren’t already required to teach everything under the sun??? It seems every time there’s an accident causing death, people start calling for schools to take it on, so silly! The only skill people needed to avoid this tragedy was reading, bc the sheriff said there were signs posted.
THAT IS SOME HEALTHY LOOKING BROWN WATER THAT DOESNT HAVE FECES IN IT AT ALL.
All rivers in Georgia look like that
@@kashmyaadventures yep georgia orange clay makes it that color
This is North Carolina. We have the muddy water also.
Eeeeewwwwwww
It's mud. It actually rained the weekend before.
Don’t ever underestimate water. Scary
Wow I just watched a video on low head dams and how dangerous they are... what a terrible way to die.
7 year old kid?
Good Lord, that’s ridiculous.
Keep thinking youre above the law of nature
That is just stupid to go tubing where there is a hazard. Why the hell is this part of the River open to floating? Just stupid.
Why would these adults are family members allow little children to get on here and no vests even so with that you can drown what is wrong with people oh my God these poor children I blamed the parents
Exactly. Some children are doomed from birth with stupid, irresponsible parents.
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They need to arrest the surviving adults for negligence
Yeah that's what they need to do, you dick!
For real some people are just obtuse
@@SweetE1403 yes their stupidity has truly made them suffer
Your exactly right because they endangered the lives of children. THROW THE DAMN BOOK AT THEM.
TIME: _-__1:39__-_ Innertube & purple baby life jacket bouncing against the dam falls. Could those be involved. Are the occupants stuck in the falls riff ? The dam can be blocked in the center allowing the water to spill over on both sides of the dam.
How about do not tube near a dam, it can be dangerous and Duh.
Yeah, that makes alot of sense doesn't it.
Tubing is dangerous
Water is dangerous
Stay in your room
People are still going to do it so it’s best just to share safety tips
They thought that the low damn was going to be like funny rapids.
That's exactly what they thought. The girl said that she was scared at first so she was holding on to the tree. Once everyone went over she let go and went also. Than she said that they didn't see the dam.
@@natinapowell6689 this comment hardly makes any sense
@@MayorGoldieWilson825 EXACTLY! I was confused also. The young lady that survived said that she was scared when they saw the dam so she was holding on to a tree. Than she said since everyone went over she let go of the tree and went over. That's what she said. I was confused on why she would follow unless it was planned. Watch her interview
Supervising adults fail again.
Low head damns are bad news some below are saying don’t fight it but that’s not always a guarantee … best option don’t go over a low head damn unless you are skilled in doing so.
A rescue line with 50 buoys is laying about on the North side of the river, right in front of the dam. Zoom in on Google maps and see for yourself. This was criminal negligence.
It was probably broken by floating debris... Some higher up decided it was cheaper to leave it detached, then to spend the couple hundred bucks to fix it and potentially save HUMAN LIFE. Tale as old as time.......... People die as boss man thrives...
No one had life jackets on? Or a phone in a safety case? You always got to be prepared for the worst. This is so sad.. I hope they find the 2 missing people..
Not to mention multiple people did not know how to swim, and it was night time when they decided to do this, a whole bunch of stupid mixed together to create a very dangerous situation
Lots of people feel if they can swim, they don't need a life vest.
@@colleb95 yes I agree, even the best swimmers overestimate their situation.. 😔
@@chisholmtrailrides4602 I absolutely agree.. its so sad..
They didn't go at night. They were still in the water at 7 pm when this happened, which at this time of year it's still light out. The 4 that they found alive had been trapped there in the water for over 19 hours. You could have found this out by doing a simple Google search.
J T has already stated this comment
Media needs to show DANGER signage. Some folks think signs don’t apply to them
With our low level dam . There is a rope and buoys strung across the river so something like this doesn't happen.
This one had that, but it was broken and tossed aside. You can see it on Google Maps.
If you reach the bouys You've gone to far anyways . The current is strongest at the bouy . . Hold onto it and hope for rescue
People don't understand just how powerful that water is, you can't fight it
Man last week I watched a Practical Engineering video entitled "The most dangerous damns" and he specifically mentions low head damns as the most dangerous. I feel bad for the people who drowned.
Yeah, now we need safety warnings on the tubes. That is why you start tubing below a dam. But I bet lawyers will be suing Duke energy for not taking safety measures to stop idiots.
The warning sign was overhead before the dam
Signs are the safety measures. Just like stop signs. If you don't stop and get in a wreck, you can't sue the city.
Don’t anybody know that is not the amusement park for tubing with the family.
Hope more learn its a death sentence
Why would these people be on this dangerous place. There were warnings.
This is a guess. And only that. …. But the trend is. That dangerous things are becomming more appealing because of social media, because the hunt for likes and admiration from others when you can make some kind of documentation. …. The internet is a wonderful thing, but we the human race are not ready for this yet. The last years sadly show us so. More and more things, malevolent and plain stupidity not to mention hate thrives on the internet. ….. whether or not this is the case in this instance i don’t know. But it is comparable with people stepping close to the edge of a cliff to take the perfect selfie. Only to fall down and kill themself.
Yes there were. My guess is they didn't understand the whole concept of low dams. No one took the time to check it.... Maybe they had more strong swimmers with them, thinking they had upper hand... I'm unsure exactly, just unfortunate 🙏🏽🕊️🕊️🕊️
The problem is they were not thinking correctly if they see warning signs correct your mistake before it bevomes a tragedy
I don’t think they were reading anything they were probably chatting and by the time they realized the water took them. They were probably like in the middle of the river too hard to paddle to get to the edge. Who knows but they ignored the dangers. I’ve been tubing before got my self out before the dam pretty scary stuff. Will never do it again.only short distance. Water is not for humans.
Where are the life jackets? If you are not an amazing swimmer in a spedo put one on. Clothing weights you down.
I'm a strong swimmer and you should always wear a jacket. If you're moving quickly a low branch can knock you out.
Wow. He can talk really fast.
No cameras there to see & talk to the people ? Why would they leave in the evening down a river ?
They sent boats from VA to NC & NC to VA & saw nothing plus a helicopter went looking along the river - no need to risk lives of searchers at night when they looked in the daytime.
Inexperience
@@tamjeanell Who. The official, the camera man or the people they say went down the river ?
@@lindalauer1434 The people who went down the river...they should've at least had life jackets on!
@@tamjeanell If they went down the river, yes, with that many people on two rafts, they would be smart to put on life vests.
For God's sake; what is wrong with people? The sheriff is right: "know what you're doing."
Don’t go tubing at night number 1
Who thought it was a good idea to go over a dam without life preservers on
Why not have a cable strung across from one side to the other 3 feet above flood or high level with multiple signs on it warning of the dam? Usually there is a sign on the bank, overgrown by foliage that everyone misses. This might be a problem with fallen trees in the river but would give someone who made a mistake a chance to survive.
They are most likely at the bottom of the falls.just churning at the bottom of falls.I seen it to many time unfortunately
I hope the rescue team find them.looking at the muddy water it look 👀 like 🐊 Alligators live in the water. This is negligence no life vest the adults know better .
Gators are 300 miles from that place
Gators are 300 miles from that place
There's a reason they're commonly referred to as death machines
Wear a life jacket all water time. Never go over damns.
Dams
Prayers for the families in Jesus Name 🙏🏼😢
@T Woo unlike u I believe in the power of prayers that’s why
The relatives and friends need prayers now because they are suffering for their loved ones and they are probably feeling anguish and distress. May our lord Jesus Christ give them peace and healing in this terrible time.
Three teenagers died in my town in the 70's the exact same way. One lived a few houses down from us
Even with the best PFD low-head dams can hold you under and not let go
Downed trees or "strainers" are equally deadly.
My condolences to their family.
That water looks nasty.
damn people out there really be playing in some dirty water though
There is a difference between "dirty" and sediment or glacial till. Just depends on soils in the area.
In the moutains we have around 15 go over waterfalls each year warning signs everywhere
You can't see that sign, it's all over grown. Those lost had just moved here and was thier first time on this river. They had no idea there was a dam.
As a strong swimmer, I went over a low head dam and was churned around and sucked back to the face dozens of times. Used every trick, diving to bottom, climbing dam face underwater, everything, could not get out. Passed out and somehow was finally ejected. These obstacles must be removed. Many have no warnings.
That one is an absolute beast! Look at how big that boil line is. Nearly impossible to escape that. How terrifying! I wonder how deep the water is between the dam and boil zone
This one is the worst I've seen. The boil is unusually tall and vicious looking. Can't help but want to test it with a creature craft. I think one of those boats could defeat it. But naaah I'd probably chicken out at the last minute.
Parents with no common sense
Great newscast. Will be helpful for others in the future.
When I worked in the fire service we had an incident when two young girls were floating on some Styrofoam down the Mississippi that they had obtained from a construction site the water didn’t appear to be moving very fast but then they came upon a barge one of the girls got stuck on some of the branch debris in front of the barge the other one went under it and that was the end of her it was very sad and there was nothing anybody could do once that occurred
Low head dams are very dangerous.
Why are people tubing down that Big River. Were the People taken by a guide or just on there own. I am so Sorry for Everyone and The Families. I am Praying for Everyone.
Dry up
I agree that tubing is best in creeks, not rivers.
Some of these comments must be paid by Duke energy or local forestry officials.
No where on this video did the reporter or the sheriff say the family went tubing at night or did not have a life jacket ...or couldn't swim. Anyone who is saying such things are being paid.
Plus, no family members are on this video to back up those lies.
Also, if the river had signs posted nearby warning the public about the dam; ... then where are the pictures of the signs? I would like to know how big the sign is and what was actually written on the sign and whether the sign was visible at an appropriate height and placed near where tourist could read it. The reporter said there was "a sign" but didn't seem sure whether that was true.
These Derelict Dams are throughout Pa, and should be removed. Bless the families.
This is terrible 😢 Prayer to the Families 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Following a fool is dangerous.
You're kidding me! A seven year old?! WTF they are a dumb group of adults that put their children in a deadly situation for fun, simply put. RIP I feel so sad for those poor children. It's a terrible tragedy, but the surviving adults that were responsible for watching those children need to be held legally accountable
My grandson is almost 11 and can swim quite well. With that being said I would never take him tubing without a life vest! You need to think of what could happen ahead of time! Be prepared! This is so devastating to hear children so young tubing with no vest! My prayers go out to the
families/family for such a huge and traumatic loss!
When it comes to low head dams, a life vest won't save you. The current will still pull you under and the air bubbles in the water cause you to lose buoyancy.
So sad that kids died too.
Seems like they have a real good sheriff there. Doing the best he can.
Who agreed to let these teens do such a dangerous thing to do. People are reckless with life.
Tubing near dams...stupidity
May this be a lesson for everyone, safety rules are there for a reason. Please adhere to them and save lives
Rod Carter used to be on NBC NEWS CHANNEL 8 IN TAMPA FLORIDA!!! I ALWAYS WONDERED WHERE HE WENT. NOW I KNOW.
Its sad that these dams are actually well known people eaters but locals don’t know.
Who in their right mind would take babies out there in a raft in the first place, and THEN take them over a dam!? Some people don't use their common sense, which more often than not leads to extreme stupidity!
It's not how dangerous the water can be it's how stupid people can be
Why wouldn't you research your route before putting your children in the water???
where the water spills over provably made a ledge and they are provably trapped right there ...looks are decieving if u dont know what your looking at might be small on top dont mean it is under
That brown water doesn't make me want to go swimming in that 😬
Where 's the bowey's(sp?) to show the upcoming dangers.? Or is it only in crazy California were we warn people of these things better than a sign on the side of the bank. ?
How incredibly heartbreaking and so incredibly unnecessary for them to lose their lives for tubing.
That's crazy!! I was literally watching a video two days ago about the dangers of tubing near a low head dam.
As a safety precaution to those who have abandoned all good common sense, stretch a high visibility cable from bank to bank, mounted to heavily secured concrete posts, about 20 or 30 feet before all low-head dams as a last resort. Run the cable through those large orange balls that you see on cables over highways to warn low flying aircraft. Suspended a couple of feet above the water, with the ability to maintain this constant height above the water level by a flotation system integrated into or near the anchoring concrete posts on the bank. If it saves 1 life, it is worth it!!!
Why would you go over a dam. Prayers for these people
Everyone should have been wearing life jackets. Especially the kids!
A life jacket can trap you in these kind of circumstances.
@@patwest1815 that's a possibility. Out of all the things that can go wrong on a river, drowning because they didn't have a life vest is pretty high up on the list of statistics.
@@fantastictoad8853 I agree, but if you ever find yourself in this predicament you may need to jettison the PFD so you can swim down and out.
@@patwest1815 yeah, this is also important to know if you're ever on a plane the has to resort to a water landing or crash to have the pdf on but don't pull the handle until you've made it out of the vessel.
7 years old and dead because of idiot adults that were responsible for keeping them safe.
This years winners of the Dam Darwin Awards. smfh.
What in the actual…????!!! How did they end up going over???!!! So, so tragic. Over a week and that poor pregnant mom hasn’t been recovered.
A man made obstacle was placed in the water that makes the navigation of that water dangerous. Nothing in the design of the dam was included to create any safety apparatus for people in the water.
It’s a terrible engineering mistake.
Where is this???? Can’t u report more thoroughly!
The police officer said people typically pull the rafts out before the dam and start again downstream, which means plenty of people are allowed to go over it like these people did.
I mean I can think of 4 or 5 really good signs to keep you from going over. Big skulls, the word Death, maybe a 12 foot picture of a graveyard, at least some people can enjoy some nice artwork while they go over the low head dam.
Don't people make sure it's safe??.. no dam is a place to go tubing...this is so sad and unnecessary...be safe and know what to do in any situation...study the place you want to go to stay safe...my sympathies to the families concerned..hope they find the others alive and well!!!.,
Why would you go tubing in a section without even checking to see if there's a dangerous dam or not...
Future episode of 1000 ways to die.
Lord...Some of those rescue workers are so fat, they wobble when they walk. Bless them for their service.
I boat on the Ct. River and before the dam there is a steel cable with large barrels so it would be nearly impossible for you to go over the dam. This issue with this type of dam is well known. Why have they not installed a cable and barrels to resolve this issue? Yes I know they should have known better but they did not and I have seen similar stories before. Just put the cable up and end these tragedies. Do it now please.
Terrible situation. Who would float in a river that muddy?
So sad… Maybe it makes sense to put a metal barrier. Water can go, but tubers, boats, kayaks will not.