Full unedited unaltered Wes Huff vs. Billy Carson debate
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- The debate between Wes Huff and Billy Carson that took place on Oct. 18th 2024 on @MarkMinard. Both Billy and Wes were notified 24hours before that we were scheduled to talk with each other, that it would be in a debate-style discussion format, and that we would be talking about Christianity and the Bible. The topic of discussion that was disclosed to all individuals involved the fact that we would be discussing Billy's public and widely dispersed criticisms and critiques regarding the Bible and Historic Christianity.
This recording is the unedited and unaltered raw footage from that interaction.
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God is orchestrating!
- it’s me, everyone’s favorite moderator, haha.
For everyone seeing this comment make sure you go watch Mark's video on the background and fallout of this at th-cam.com/video/49ZHKpbQ4ZE/w-d-xo.html!
@@WesHuffthank you my brother!!
thanks
we need a version with just billy and wes please
@@WesHuffgreat work wes!!
Use me as the "this moderator was insufferable on a level we can't begin to comprehend" button
dude was just rambling
Christians should have grace and patience.
As long as we remember if it weren’t for this specific moderator we wouldn’t have this specific debate.
I felt like he was more of a commentator than a moderator.
We must show grace to Mark. If it weren't for him, this debate would not exist. People make mistakes, no one is perfect.
I hope Wes sees this comment. I have been an atheist that believed many of Billy's claims for my entire life. since the debate Ive been watching a lot of your content and im going to say something I have never said before. Wes has single handedly dismantled my entire world view on the Abrahamic doctrines. Not only do I realize how incorrect Ive been my entire life, I am beginning to believe the Christians may actually be right about everything. I cant believe Im saying that, but its true. Thanks Wes, for shattering my world view and setting me down on a solid foundation.
Wonderful news! Hallelujah Amen!
Praise YAHUAH seek and you will find there is TRUTH out there. Teshuva and Shema. 🌾🌾🌾
Praise God brother God is real and loves u so much he gave his only son to die for our sins and Salvation is free grace is free all you have to do is call on the Lord and he will show himself Glory to the king
He drew me up from the pit of destruction, out of the miry bog, and set my feet upon a rock, making my steps secure. Psalm 40:2, HalleluYah, Christ Jesus, the rock and firm foundation of salvation!
God saved me through TH-cam too, man. God bless!
Thank you Billy Carson for introducing me to Wes Huff!👌
BIG FACTS!!! THANK YOU
ahhahahah
Same!
The Lord works in mysterious ways.
To be clear Wes has his own bias and there are other scholarly opinions other than Christianity is correct regardless he definitely knows his stuff and he cleaned Billy's clock. I'm also in the field of religious studies and Billy Carsons crazy ideas had me cringing the entire video 😅
Oh my word, this was excruciating. You really showed the fruit of the spirit in restraint.
Incredible patient my goodness
The only thing that’s even more admirable than Wes’ knowledge and accuracy is his uncharted capacity to show patience and meekness to these two.
I wish there was more of this. The Jimmy Aiken/Bart Erhman debate was just as cordial.
Pity he cant.show evidence for his claims
I can barely tolerate this conversation.
uncharted... interesting word choice
💯
Billy Carson unknowingly converted thousands of people to Christianity from this one debate. Great job Billy! And thank you Wes for being an amazing ambassador for Christianity.
Agree!!!!
I think Wes converted many not Billy
@@MannyBaut06 Agreed. Billy just facilitated the conversion inadvertently...as many unbelievers do.
Exactly Wes is the hero, Billy is the fraud!
Why do you say it like it's a bad thing people who talk about fake s*** should come out and then light should be shined so people do go the right way it's not a bad thing I'm glad this happens and he went through all links to try to cover up the truth that's the messed up part is this dude was demonic enough to try to Sue this dude and send them all kinds of people work threatening not to release this so people don't get the truth
Who's here because of Joe Rogan?
I am! Can't get enough of his content now. It's weird how the Lord works. I have been battling what I know is right in my heart I just know it is but why thru all these years have I fought and continue too? I don't understand it I guess it is my flesh but I'm trying and I'm glad that the Lord has brought me this gentleman. Who would have ever known thru Rogan there is much hope haha
Present
Guilty as charged😂
No not me 🙃🫡
ME
I have been questioning my belief a lot, thank you Wes for reinforcing my belief in Christ
All religions claim to know and have the one true God. The only thing that "wins" debates is whatever side has more people that share an opinion. None of you KNOW what you are talking about. You BELIEVE what you are told, and whatever reinforces your opinions.
@UnkommonSense-z5e This is how the devil will sound when convincing you to follow him
@@UnkommonSense-z5e The Billy Carson camp is looking for new recruits!
This moderator has to be one of the most painful things I've ever listened to.
OMG yessss
He stepped in and took over and actually sabotaged the debate by speaking. He should have kept quiet more.
Cyanide? 😂😂😂
I think he saw it more as discussion than debate? His responses makes more sense through that lense
Right!!!!
Who else was on the edge of their seat waiting for Wes to be able to talk? 😂
Lmao
He had the patience of Job!
Literally!!!!!
This host is pathetic
Yes! Hahaha.
The “moderator” was absolutely insufferable. Happy to have been introduced to Wes through JRE, thank you for all your work.
Oh yeah this moderator is about to annoy me deeply
He’s almost like the fool in a Shakespeare play whose function is to promote the hero
I completely agree. He’s talking way too much.
He needs to lay off the weed.
Absolutely agree. Insufferable.
This is literally two people who share the same level of understanding of the average American high schooler against a historian who is a content expert in Christian documents.
Correct
i think you owe American high schoolers an apology.
Why are you mad about that? Billy Carson literally gives the impression that he knows it all it might be settled, but it’s easily perceived.
@ mad?
Can you read?
That is an insult to American Highschool students.
A scholar, a cult leader, and a surfer walk into a bar
Stop 😂 came into comments Love your humor 🙌
@@Faithfulservant123glad you appreciated it 😂I didn’t want to be too mean to the moderator, and this seemed to me to be an accurate characterization 😂
Weswes the cult leader
🗣🗣😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 OMG MY SIDEEEE 😫😫😫
@dopeholedeon1010 ...most of the information billy is teaching everyone are from cults... 👀
This is a masterclass on both:
1) How to talk to those who don’t believe what you believe with facts
2) Immeasurable patience in the midst of unsubstantiated claims.
GOATED comment
You have to fully understand the person of God. Jesus came to bring salvation and when he returns, he will be bringing judgment. I can see you. Two gentlemen are not ready for the judgment, because you can't see the holiness and glory of your God.
"Facts"
He has so much patience with these stooges, unreal I would have snapped, they’re too dumb, brings IQ down listening to them
I don't see how ppl claimed billy lost debate when wes keep losing connection n importance sinatios weren't really addressed I think ppl assumed billy lost the debate cos he left.😂 Im not a bias cos I don't follow any of them. I enjoy billy stories cos its like fiction stories i used to enjoy as a child..
Wes is the epitome of "be gentle as doves but wise as serpents."
Yes, he was. I learned from this
👌
Wes definitely was patient
Amen
Yess he is!
damn.... just damn, the difference in intellect & conviction & class is mesmerizing.
I prayed two years ago someone would expose Billy Carson. Jesus sent Wesley Huff to do the job. His timing is perfect.
@@arrowofGod86 really? people are starving in this world and you're praying for that nonsense? yeesh
@@TheBigChiefton exactly 💯.. I am sure Jesus has other things that are far more important than this debate
AMEN‼️
@@TheBigChiefton Leading people to hell is worse than being underfed
@@TheBigChieftonuhm. I don’t know if you know the concept of a prayer. You aren’t entitled to only one like some kind of wish. 😂
Let's get Wes on Joe Rogan please!
Edit: Let's goooooo. Joe Rogan and Wes Huff has happened. All the glory to Christ
Edit edit: go listen to it now! Also crazy that the total episode is 3h16m. John 3:16!!!
That would be an incredible podcast
Most definitely
Rogan isn’t religious or Christian
@@Authentik69 No but he's become more open to it in recent years, if Wes got on his radar he might actually be open to having him on, he does love ancient history
@@Authentik69 Invalid point. He had Billy Carson on and I think Joe, which he has stated himself, is about talking to everyone
Never seen a grown man interrupt a person talking so blatantly just to add nothing to the conversation
If you're talking about Mark, I agree. I eventually skipped past his talking.
Like Kamala
Could be one of the most annoying people to ever be involved in a debate
Honestly, it was infuriating to listen to him bang on about nothing.
I agree I feel like Mark should have let his guest talk and he just stay quiet
The moderator reminds me of when two adults are having an intelligent conversation, and then a child keeps interrupting to add the most irrelevant and time-wasting sentences. It’s like, okay, thank you child…can the adults get back to the conversation now?
Wes, your defense was fantastic, but oddly enough, I have to say that the thing that impressed me most was your patience with Mark. Kudos for being Christlike throughout.
It's like Wes was being interviewed by dumb and dumber. He had a hard time getting a word in edgewise.
Amen ❤
@ Yeah, every time Mark butted in, I thought, “okay, this is where Wes finally snaps,” but he never did.
Amen!!!! My patience was getting tested watching…. I pray the Host dives into his bible and remembers just bc he doesn’t t understand the text does not mean it’s not true.
I would be interested in knowing if Wes ever went back on Mark's show. Good grief. Thanks Wes for hanging in there.
Pro tip: Every time the moderator talks instantly fast forward
Bro 😂😂 Im an hour and 20min into it, should’ve done that a long time ago
Saved me so much nonsense, thanks bro
I just come to the comments to read everybody slamming him.
NO WAY this dude hosts a podcast people listen to. I would rather watch paint dry than listen to that guy talk. He adds nothing of substance to this conversation
This! 😂
One good thing about Billy is that he launched this Wes Huff into the stratosphere of Internet recognition. Thank you Billy!
Yep!! All God!!!
Wow….. didn’t even think about that very GREAT POINT!!!! I knew who Billy was and was totally kinda thinking that type of way…. Anyhow, how TF was I exposed to Billy but Never Wes????
God definitely uses ALL things for His glory…even that which Satan intends for evil.
I didn't know Wes at all, and had only learned of Billy from the Terrence Howard fallout on JRE. I think I've seen Billy around as a talking head here and there. I watched Terry and Billy do a thing together, I think it must have been on Billy's "podcast" but the two of them unchecked was sheer absurdity. They both just talked about how great they are. I don't understand how anyone can be fooled by Billy. He might as well have 'conman' written on his forehead.
I wonder if Billy had any idea who he was going to be speaking to. If he had done even the most elementary amount of research, he should have run away as far as he could. As soon as the conversation started, Wes asked "What are you referring to when you say Sinai Bible?" I could already see where this was going. Especially when Billy said "...I assume it's Mt. Sinai....it's on Amazon." Wes says [paraphrasing] "So, it's called Codex Sianiticus, I have a manuscript right here. I'm a linguist and have studied it. I just want to make sure we're talking about the same thing" Billy just nods his head up and down- literally speechless.
Agreed! I didn’t know of any of these people. I heard someone talking about a debate leading to a lawsuit and I just haaad to see.
The surfer doesn’t know what he believes, the cult leader doesn’t believe in demons but he’s chalk full of them, and Wes has the patience of a true SAINT!
They are clowns. I’ve got no patience for Christ deniers. Jesus tells me to love them, I guess I’m not there yet.
Use me as “skipping when the host spoke” button lol
🤣🖤👌 Totally ..
Dude ruined the whole debate
Yessss
Omg.. I've been doing that too... 😂😂😂😂
The dude sounds like a 16-year-old stoner whos trying to get Wes to feel his vibe
I’m no stranger to Christianity, but I have been led astray by all the misinformation that is being spread on a massive scale, after watching this podcast, I now have a better understanding and the knowledge that was presented has truly inspired me, and I am fully ready to walk in my path with Christ Jesus. I love him so much and after all the wrong I’ve done in my life, I pray daily for repentance. Jesus forgive your daughter!! I turn from my wicked ways and I allow you to come into my heart!! Praise GOD! New fan!
Aww be blessed my fellow sister in Christ. I understand your struggle as I have somewhat gone through the same. The lord will aid us in our walk.
Amen ❤
Amen, we praise God !! ❤
PRAISE GOD!!!
“When you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men … but when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your father who is unseen.” remember the words of jesus.
Came here to watch before watching Joe Rogan. 👍
39:00 - 45:26 fast forwarded thru moderator rambling
Same haha, I actually stopped the Joe Rogan show to come watch this first and then go back
@@Ringgeneral9same
Me too lol
@@Ringgeneral9lol same
As an observer, Billy’s attitude is so disappointing here, it’s apparent that his pride is hurt and that it’s important that he be right about a few things for the sake of his fragile pride. The fact that he calls Wes’s lifetime of study and focus on the subject at hand (which Billy purposefully deflects from) as rhetoric…says more about him than anyone else here. My inner hunch told me this guy was full of himself, this interview has solidified that. This conversation could’ve have been so much richer, if Billy’s mind was “truly” open. His reactions say everything about him, the only one needing convincing here is Billy, in his deep inner mind he is defeated and unsure.
That was the worst moderator for a debate I have ever encountered. Wow. He sounds like a stoned 15 year old contemplating religion for the first time in his life. Totally unprofessional.
Seriously
Yes, I just kept saying Lord have mercy, shut up .. close your mouth and listen. It's so obnoxious
😂😂😂😂the “high guy” that thinks he’s smarter after smoking?
Exactly, I’m surprised he’s even gotten to the level where Wes would even join in on his show, dude seems like a complete air head and completely not self aware. I’m surprised Wes didn’t tell him to just shut up and listen to the adults.
Heard he just became a Christian
This was the most painfully respectful, intellectual smackdown I've ever seen. Well done. This is the best way to minister to others. With humble honesty and willingness to educate with facts and kindness.
Wow ...well put .
Well Azazel did teach man how to make weapons to defend themselves. 1 Enoch chapter 8
I agree 100% he smashes all the falsehoods with grace and kindness man the ultimate smack down. But with kind loving fists of stone. 😂
That's the problem Left brain Hemisphere Intellect vs Right brain Hemisphere Spiritual
@@Trolondo33billy was a difficult child, and his mom was left handed...
Holy... This moderator is a serious barrier to the conversation.
Tell me about it
He is doing a horrible job. And making his buddy look like a fool as well
I blame the moderator for this debate being a disaster. Just put Wes and Billy in a room and let them cook together. They’ll figure it out like Professionals.
@@Obi_Bro_Kenobi the problem was he wasn’t MODERATING anything lol… he was just putting his own 2 cents in every chance he got, and interrupted the flow of debate every time a thought entered his head.
Thank you!!! I thought it was just me he kept interrupting before Wess answered the question he kept repeating 😂
Oh my gosh!! They wouldn’t let him answer the questions, how frustrating it was watching the host and Billy and not able to get the answer because they were so overwhelming! 🤦🏻♀️
I've been following Carson and his channel for years. Just watched this and unsubscribed and subscribed to Wes Huff. Gonna get my Bible out and study it for the first time in years. I was a Christian with many questions and not entirely believing. Watching Wes made me realise I've been lied to and I'm returning to Christianity and the Lord. Thank you Mr Carson for helping me to go home.
Lol try gnostic informant. Billy carson is just another grifter. Same as any other ancient alien dude.
Amen
The gnostics follow the later writings of people who never even met Jesus. 2nd century esoteric Coptic writings. We have the writings from the first century from people who actually knew him!
Gnostics- always “learning” and never coming to a knowledge of the truth.
Love this!!
@@jordantheriverman6143to be fair, Luke never met Jesus neither?
Hearing the host talk felt like pure torture. You were very patient, Wes. I was dying to hear your response and hated how much you were interrupted and stopped. Thank you for posting. I’m happy to find your content now.
It was miserable!
For me the moderator represents a lot of people’s opinions I still don’t feel like his point about murdering all the people during the flood was fleshed out enough
Yes, I was listening to this with an Amish man in his mid twenties as we were on the road for work and he said as well that he had many of the same questions, and my response was that Wes' answer make perfect sense, I wish they gave him the chance to fully answer.
my sentiments exactly. I wish the host did a better job of moderating and quit interrupting so much, allowing Wes more time to actually respond. Was hard to listen.
At this point, I'm, like, why even have Wes there?! They don't let him speak!!!!
The “moderator” gave me so much awkwardness pain I almost crashed my car.
Patience of a saint, Wes, indeed. God bless.
I think that Mark was uncomfortable because his friend Billy had been destroyed on his show, even though he thought he was doing Billy a favour. As soon as Billy left, he became much more coherent.
@@wretch1 Yeah, I guess so.
I swear
He was irritating
I hoped someone would say this. Dude was outrageously annoying. His interruptions were completely unenjoyable. When he said that understanding the historical context of Paul's letters "sounds dumb," it was mind numbing.
I find it so frustrating that both of them won’t let Wes speak and actually have a chance to respond to their statements. Well done Wes for being so patient!
The moderator talks a lot of nothing. Brother Wes was so patient. Thank God for your wisdom brother. May He continue to use you for His kingdom and His glory
Amen 🙏🏼
Exactly
If I were referencing C.S. Lewis, Narnia would not be my first point of reference, albeit, classics.
It’s our duty to listen and help everyone even Mark the moderator who seems to be thirsty for the truth ❤
His filibustering was probably welcomed by Carson.
Proverbs 18:17
"The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him."
Scripture is so amazing. For every situation there is a saying. It seems no one know humanity better than the Bible and of course right?
The best scripture for this exact scenario. Applause
Spot on
Sorry this guy never seemed right
@@stevenundzid4765I get you. But for a person with a light awareness of the Bible, Billy sounds very persuasive. Just like The Da Vinci Code.
Finally watched this and only a person walking in the Spirit could display that level of patience. Praise God.
Right? So true
Amen!
I thought the same thing.He was very kind to Billy. We need to give grace to Billy, it is not easy to have your worldview turned upside down in front of everybody and have to admit you don't know as much as you thought you did.
It’s also easy to have patience when you have truth on your side and all the research and knowledge to backup the story.
@@jordanB472 True, yet be that as it may I for one wouldve struggled with 10 minutes of Marks interruptions let alone 2 hours. I believe God had the right man for the job in Brother Wes.
Thank you Billy for playing your part in bringing atheists to the truth, though the enemy meant it for harm our God meant it for good.
Listening to Wes brought to mind 1 Peter 3:15b: "...Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect." A great learning experience for me. Thank you and God bless from Cameroon 🇨🇲
🎯
He lived that verse out for the world to see. Well done good sir!!
Never heard of any of these people. But Wes. Wow. Your patience is outstanding. Thank you for representing Christianity so well. Now I’ve gotta go check out JRE interview next
It's great💯
I didn’t even know there was a Joe Rogan interview but now I’m curious. I came here after watching PBD’s Valuetainment video about it.
I did JRE that has led me to this
Me too
Billt was on PBD podcast and recently Wes 🙌🏼 glad Wes posted this interview!
It’s deeply refreshing to see a Christian who has done all this work, and is unconcerned with being ‘Right’. Just humble and curious. He is almost ministering to these two. And he’s vastly knowledgeable. Humbling. Thank you so much Wes.
They are humbled. They have him tuned out. Mark is too busy waiting on remembering his next commentary
i love the mediator’s innocence in his perspectives, and his questions. Great job mediator! God chose you to introduce me to this great discussion. Wes, I love how you credibly back up your claims.
Well said!
Well said!
He's very concerned about being right...
The moderator needed to be moderated.
JRE ARMY...Im here and grabbedmy bible for the first time ever and sat down to read it! LETS GO! AND THANKS
This is my favorite comment in this whole thread. Read the whole thing, it’s a beautiful story that unfolds over 1600 years and stretches into our current day.
LETS GO!!!
AMEN! Keep it up! May the Lord bless you and your family @couchfighter
Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth
@@BigJimeSladeSo true! Read the whole thing - then read it again. It’s incredible. 1600 years, 40 some odd authors (if I’m not mistaken), and absolutely cohesive and whole.
As a Canadian and a Christian I am so proud of Wes for how polite, respectful and classy he was. He represents us so well. Great job, Wes
Wes has single handily raised Canadas popularity significantly. If he doesn’t come south to live in America, folks are going to be migrating up north to study!
I agree!
Ive recently started working on my relationship with God again after being away from him for a very very long time and Wes will now be on my daily listen list. Thank you Wes for standing up for truth, seeking the truth and sharing the truth publicly on these formats. I woke up with no real focus or direction for my day off from work and now after listening to Wes I have a bit of fire for God and a clear path for what I want to accomplish today! Thank you!
Ha! I’m American but I told my husband “he’s tearing Billy to pieces, but he’s so polite about it…so Canadian!!” Embrace your national personality. 😊 I’m still gonna be a plain speaking forward American, though. We need both kinds!
He truly appears to have the fruits of the spirit. He is a fine ambassador for Christ. He's going to bring so many to Christ. His knowledge on the subject is extraordinary.
Yowzers!!!!!! That was unequivocally the politest, most respectful utter intellectual destruction of a debate opponent I have ever seen. Well done Wes. All glory to the Lord
Amen
For real
It was a very Canadian response
Lol, Seriously now! What a TRUE GENTLEMAN Wes is.! I’m glad at least I found out about Wes! Found out the truth about Billy. He always rubbed me the wrong way !
@@robpregon1629 okay, about his Christian views, Billy is definitely wrong. *_BUT_* the things he says and proves about these ancient civilizations, is right. When he talks about the ancient Egyptians and stuff, Wes just shuts it down and says, “no physical evidence.” Like I know, about his Christianity views and demons and angels, Billy is wrong. But about the ancient civilizations, I do think he’s onto something. He just needs to stay out of religion lol 😅
Hi Wes, I'm getting back into reading the Bible and I came across a video with you in it and I love the way you spoke..with humility...I LOVE it when ppl are humble, I wish people practiced it more often. God brought me to your channel and I look forward to learning and studing the word of God and hearing you explain things that I need to hear!! May God bless you. 🙏🙏🙏 and yes...I subbed to your channel. 😊
I'm still half an hour from the end and I'm absolutely astonished with Wes' level of tolerance towards the moderator. Deserves a medal!
I'm with you. May God grant Mark an overwhelming level of understanding as there is much lack in his conceptualization of God and text outlined in both the old and new testament.
The moderator is rambling isn't he?
@@HieroPharaohIt was pure torture
I think because he was Billy's friend he was trying to make it seem like it wasn't so much of a setup by playing dumb
That, & wes was definitely being patient for This payoff lol
It’s like listening to 2 drunk high school students debating a sober PhD Professor.
😂😂😂
😂
😂
He’s a PhD student …….. know your facts
But one of them isn't debating
What’s up with the host…? Anyways great job Wes. I discovered you through Joe Rogans JRE podcast. I have to say you did excellent here and actually helped fortify and solidify my belief in Christ. Thank you for this!
Moderator: Please stop talking, it’s embarrassing.
Billy: You and your schtick have been brutally exposed
Wes: Well done, beautifully articulated
Word
It’s absolutely excruciating.
How so, Billy has a point, several actually.
Wes points out a handful of inaccuracies, that doesn't prove Billy is wrong
Explain this! Adam and Eve were created by God, according the scriptures, they were the first human creations on earth! So where did "we" come from?
Yes, Adam and Eve had children, but they were both males! Did Eve procreate with her sons so they could also have sons and daughters?
If so that would've been incest and we all know what happens when families interbreed, you get deformities and mental retardation.
Then those deformed and mentally challenged kids would have interbred with one another leading to even worse problems.
Then God destroyed everybody in a flood for their wickedness and Noah and his family boarded an ark with a male and female version of every single breed of animal on earth at that time!
Noah and his family then proceeded to reseed earth and the incest wouldve have continued.
These two biblical accounts alone, are not plausible and no amount of religious studies can dispute this, everything in recorded biblical texts is basically the same thing Billy was saying about the stories from ancient cultures like the Hopi's, the Dogon, the Aboriginies and many other cultures regarding star beings interacting with mankind, they're all stories from people of those days.
Just because you can carbon date papyrus, animal skins and copper plates doesnt mean it validates what was written on those materials, it could have all been hearsay, or stories passed from one person to another and somewhere along the line the stories get more and more imaginative and convoluted until the final person records what he was told, or records what he witnessed which doesn't mean that those individuals even understood what they we seeing or hearing.
Billy may not have some of the factual details correct but as a whole, his theory is a good one.
Religion has been an evil contruct of mankind with more murdering in the name of the church then anything else in history.
I also believe in a devine creator, and I'm highly spiritual, and I know for a fact that the devine creator wants us to be loving, do good and work on developing a pure soul so that your soul can acsend to higher levels of consciousness being.
Christianity has a very bad and dark track record of persecution and condemnation, this is not inline with the devine creator I believe in and follow
The god in biblical accounts sounds more like a fallen angel who deceived mankind into believing he was god, for all we know the god in the bible couldve have been Lucifer deceiving the masses, afterall, he did want to be god and that's why God cast him out of the heavenly realms.
Nothing in rhe bible can be proved beyond a shadow of a doubt, because its all stories of a story of a story.
Live a pure compassionate loving life and your soul will be touched by God (the Devine), don't judge, condemn and crucify people because their beliefs differ from your one world view, or you will be setting your soul up for one nasty surprise when judgement gets passed at the end of your earthly lifespan.
Reading some of the comments from Christians in some of these comments shows how vile and evil some people can be.
The devine creator is not vengeful, jealous or murderous, the devine creator gave each of us free will and it's up to each of us to learn how to be more loving, kind and forgiving, so that your soul can ascend to higher levels, or you'll just come back and repeat karmic lessons in the next life until you get it right.
Billy has a good soul, you can feel it, if you don't, then its time to check your dark sinister soul and do some shadow work..
@@grantp3911his "points" got destroyed this wasnt a debate it was a murder
5:46 - Kind of an introduction. (Skip after 20 seconds)
9:49 - Wes first speaks.
12:57 - (skip) Mark talks
14:13 - known forgery of the Gospel of Barnabas
20:10 - Wes addresses the gospel of Jesus’s wife
22:42 - Billy speaks on an assortment of Old Testament/creation stories
24:22 - (skip) Wes asks Billy to give a summary of the creation account in the EnumaElish
29:40 - Wes replies and re-establishes the point of discussion
35:18 - Billy asks why God is a “He”
37:37 - Wes “It’s irrelevant what the majority of Christians believe.”
38:40 - Billy suggests Christianity is misogynistic
39:01 - (skip) Moderator Mark talks
46:26 - Wes continues his point and recommends a book “Bullies and Saints”
48:33 - Moderator Mark asks Wes about his method of research
51:20 - Wes tells how he came to his Christian conclusions
55:54 - (skip) Billy downplays eyewitness accounts and changes subject to tribal oral traditions
1:00:30 - Wes re-establishes the point of discussion
1:01:22 - Wes introduces term “verisimilitude”
1:01:23 - Billy ignores Wes’s question and redirection back to topic and further elaborates on tribal oral traditions and tools
1:01:49 - Wes again asks how Billy verifies eyewitness accounts (internal investigations, verisimilitude, extracting data on its level of probability)
1:03:23 - Billy interjects and again attempts to change the subject to tribal findings
1:04:03 - Wes asks Billy again how he verifies eyewitness accounts
1:04:20 - Billy replies sarcastically
1:05:09 - This is the crux of the entire podcast. Wes is asking Billy for his documentary evidence of his claims. Billy insists Wes is wasting time and Wes’s question isn’t important.
1:06:13 - Moderator Mark changes discussion to demons and angels
1:08:35 - Billy makes the claim that God kills more people than Satan and generally attacks the Bible
1:10:02 - Billy claims slavery is condoned in the Bible in the New Testament
1:11:57 - Billy reads Ephesians 6:5 then Wes replies
1:16:27 - (skip) Moderator Mark boldly repeatedly interrupts Wes
1:18:34 - Wes continues
1:20:30 - (skip) Moderator Matt rants and Wes corrects him. Then Wes is interrupted again. I’d skip after about 20 seconds.
1:25:23 - Wes comes back.
1:28:13 - (skip) Wes cuts out. Billy makes tons of outlandish claims without his debate opponent there. I’d skip if you know who Billy is.
1:31:35 - Billy leaves
**There’s not much point in listening past here.
1:37:12 - Wes replies
1:41:47 - Wes replies
1:47:15 - Wes replies
1:51:17 - Wes replies
2:00:19 - Wes replies and gives all credit to God
Soli Deo Gloria.
😆😆 thank you. Great summary
king
LOOOOOOLLILOOOLLLOLL😂😂😂😭😭😭😂🤣🤣
Thank you so much. Moderator was grating my ears with utter nonsense and 80 IQ biblical analysis.
Thank you !!!
We need an edited version of the debate with every word the moderator says removed
I second that
It sounded like he was about to break down and cry😂😂 Wtf
@@trentonshuke3563 I asked for it yesterday. 😵💫
😅😅😅 this is the key to not getting headaches 😂 imean billy is out of this place but that guy he is sleeping 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
The video would be about 20 minutes long😅
Thanks Wes- Love that I discovered you via the debate. Based on most comments I’m prompted to share this verse for all those who seek to live according to scripture;
Do not rejoice when your enemy falls, and let not your heart be glad when he stumbles,
Proverbs 24:17. ESV
This debate could’ve been amazing but the moderator ruined it completely.
He’s like the turtle from finding Nemo lol
Yes.... It's insufferable and takes away from the conversation at hand.
The moderator is a plant, he was planted to disrupt the raw biblical truth from being exposed & they kept kicking him off the live.
@@Donald70448 Billy def paid that man to interfere.
Brutal. He was the most difficult part. I felt like satan worked against Wes on every level - technologically, the bumbling moderator, and Billy as a whole.. and STILL, Christ reigned supreme.
Billy: “It’s all love!”
Also Billy: “Sues Mark and Wes and sends both of them Cease and Desist letters”
He’s such a weiny. Dude said a whole lot of nothing and then at the end said “mic drop” and walked off. Real class act
There is nothing 'sue worrhy' in this conversation.
Did he actually?
@@carloschmidt4574I believe so. Reading about the lawsuit caused me to dig up the video.
@@carloschmidt4574 yes
Visiting the comment section while waiting for Wes to be able to speak again.
The fast forward button is a wonderful thing
Same bro. Mark is awful 👎🏼
Reading this comment while doing the same thing 🤣
Me too
Rofl. Even 1.25x isn’t fast enough to get around how slow he is.
Thanking Wes for his patience and humility .Wes displays the fruit of the Spirit.
Billy needs salvation and as Christians let us pray him .
As a Christian that has not been the most devoted in my faith, this video has given me a renewed thirst for biblical knowledge and understanding. Thank you, Wes.
What a blessing
Welcome home❤
Praise the Lord Jesus Christ.
I encourage you to dive deep! But as a warning, the deeper you go, the stronger the objections get and it becomes harder to find the answers. But the answers are out there!
I'm with you.
Thank you Wes for honoring, serving, and glorifying God in the work you do.
Wes brother this debate was so hard to watch. I salute you for your patience and grace throughout.
His patience is a great example for us.
Wow. He is so respectful and responsible with The Word. He should be and Thank God he is on our side. Thanks Mr. Wess
Truth
Yes, the way he does not interrupt, stays unemotional, and focused on the point should be a case study.
Indeed!!!
This debate is actually only 10 minutes when you fast forward through the moderators babbling.😂
U right I did the same
why they made this out to be such a big deal, this wasn't even a fair debate to ge honest. They act like he destroyed billy or something. Lol
@@youngjack5621he didn't have a chance to debate him. The fact that they kept cutting him off says he destroyed Billy. Mark wouldn't let wes talk.
Its the Morgan peirs tactic
@@youngjack5621 do you honestly think Billy made one single point that you could hang your hat on? His whole persona fell through the cracks!
Absolutely brilliant work Wes. You have shown full respect and politeness at all times and shown the full truth of Jesus our lord and saviour. God bless you!
The moderator is like how it might be if technology allowed your dog to talk for the first time and explain the world.
LOL, sooo true 😂
Now, THAT is funny!!
yes!
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Wes, the Christian community thanks you for your emotional intelligence, and articulation of what you have found.
Amen😊
The very same that burned crosses..
Amen
I'm here. The saddest part is that Wesley Huff was so respectful, and had not intention at all to humiliate Billy. Wes was considerate and looking for opportunity to improve Billy on his methods of researching and verifying the information he gathers around the world. But as always, some people just harbor greatest darkness in their souls.
May God continue to bless, protect and increase Wesley Huff.
So true and well said. I admire Wes so much. He comes off as a very understanding and sincere individual who truly wants to educate and spread knowledge and truth with evidence and resources to back up claims. Besides Billy who keeps saying and always says in my opinion of my hypothesis. Billy is very rude and deflects with we have so much more to go over whenever Wes is clearly trying to educate him and teach. Billy needs to be humble and open to constructive criticism.
Wes definitely showed lots of restraint in this debate.
This was a line up, it’s easy to see.
If he didn't had the intentions to humiliate him then he would never post this video.
Wich concludes he most definitely wanted to humiliate him and expose him as a person who misquoted or lied about the text
@ restraint from what?
The Moderator reminded me of some Hippy giving an answer to a question noone asked.
Thank God we saw the truth through Wes and the fruit of the Spirit of God being patience.
This isn't a debate. This is a lesson.
Nailed it
Worse than that.. Billy the deceiver was utterly defeated, exposed as an agent of Satan and a deceiver.
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Word!!!!😂
This is a joke
This guy Billy should never debate anyone.
The “moderator”’is not much better
Dear LORD,Please help Mark,and myself to learn to listen twice as much as we speak
Hahaha... you have spoken true words my friend... me too...
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I think Mark is drunk!
Having ADD doesn’t give you the excuse to interrupt people from making a point
Guy is so dumb
Seriously, what is wrong with this guy. Watching him as he’s talking is like watching a 4 year old actor that forget their lines. The lights are on (dimly) but nobody’s home
My parents cured me of my ADD by teaching me not to interrupt people.
@@jaredvizzi8723 Hold on, I'm gonna stop you right there! 😄
Exactly, this was chaos stirred up because truth was being spoken
The more the other guy talks, the more he sounds clueless, oh my gosh the audacity to interrupt people talking when you're this guy is so unbearable, God bless this man.
Listening to Mark I was having flashbacks to Kamala’s word salads. I have a headache now.
Billy’s exit was rude. Wes is a gentleman and a true scholar.
😂😂😂
He was insanely rude. I can’t believe what I just witnessed.
Well stated. If it was not for Wes, this was intolerable.
I’ll take a word salad over “the weave” all day. These guys were Trump level incoherent
It was even better, it was an ungraceful bow out. He wanted no more.
Billy Carson is a gift. Without him, I would have never found Wes Huff.
These fake comments be wilding. You people go to TH-cam for knowledge when’s the last time you opened a book
@@JDaKeehBrudda why are you triggered, people can read books and watch TH-cam whaaaaat and acting like there ain’t knowledge to be gained on places like TH-cam is pure mental gymnastics.
However it is up to you like with books to determine what is rubbish and accurate as if there’s no books full of absolute nonsense. 🤣
@@JDaKeehtell me you’re a Billy Carson fan without telling me you’re a Billy Carson fan.
@@JDaKeeh These aren't fake comments. Billy is a dipshit, albeit a rich one. This video has been seen over 700k times on this small channel, and countless more views on other channels - not even including reaction videos and opinion pieces. Likely tens of thousands of people learned of one of the three people in this video by virtue of watching this video.
The list of charlatans that have written widely read books is infinite. Telling someone that in your humble opinion they're stupid is easy enough without resorting to the "read a book once in a while" trope. Knowledge gained depends on the credibility of the source, not the credibility of the medium from which it was delivered.
This is a long, intricate way of me telling you that I think you're a dumbass. =)
@@penutchiekowas it the over infatuation with saying the word “knowledge” that gave it away for you?
What I love about the bible is that it describes people like Billy Carson perfectly: 2 Timothy 3:7 "...always learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth."
Ironically that verse could be used to describe almost everyone in your religion. I don't think any of you knew what Jesus was actually talking about.
I dont know what he's really learning.. his sources are crap
I think even that reference is too generous. He purposely refused to look at actual historical evidence lol.
@@dondrejames1679That’s a mighty assumption there buddy, got any proof of that?
@@dondrejames1679Billy Carson burner account is that you?
As an archaeologists and historian I want to sincerely congratulate and thank Wes for being a stellar representative of academic historical research 👏🏻 Carefully collecting, examining, analyzing and evaluating source material / data, applying systematic methodology and questioning everything, also and especially the state of the art within our own discipline, is exactly what also good so-called 'debunks' of what is rightfully called pseudoarchaeology do. It's a beauty to listen to this, and I think you've done great service here for the scientific community in times of popular anti-establishment sentiments that frequently for such wrong reasons turn against us.
@@bleakbonemortualia4542 he didn’t even make any new arguments. He just reread the same sorry excuse pedophile priest use. “ well if you read it through my eyes, it means this.” he hardly even “debunked” Jesus’s death. I don’t expect any Christians to be able to pay attention to detail details. When their God exclaimed, they ignore them.
“The confidence is not backed by the reality of the evidence” has to be the most polite way of saying “you’re loud and wrong”
😂 yes 💯
Each person must decide if the evidence presented is accurate or not. Everyone is free to believe as they choose. This was nothing more than a bible thumping, and THAT is why so many have finally awakened and stepped away from organized religion.
You’re right. The Bible is a weapon. It clearly defeated Wes. No wonder why people are wanting the truth and are turning to Jesus!
@@Butterflymagic2024you explained it perfectly, everybody must decide based off the evidence given. Thank god that Wes was able to disprove majority of the crazy beliefs Billy had with actual, usable, evidence. Hopefully we’re both watching the same video cause nowhere do I see “Bible thumping”, only disproving with proof. I hope Billy one day realizes throwing claim after claim because you want to doesn’t amount to anything. And I hope you watch this again someday but with a much more open mind.
@@Butterflymagic2024 I mean, if you have any evidence that disproves any of Wes’ points I’m all ears b/c, far as I can see, your guy Billy failed to present any.
I don’t this Wes was bible thumping, I think he was standing on business. I think he came with the purpose of refuting the bs Billy’s been allowed to spew on major platforms. You can’t lie about my religion and then characterize me as bible thumping when I merely correct the lies you told🤷🏾♂️
This is the heart of apologetics. Loving the Lost, being patient,, and honoring the Lord.
Amazing job Wes! I saw you back in 2017 at Queens University. Thrilled to see you still working and sharing! Will be praying for you.
The moderator "Mark" was out of place at times but let's also be kind and gracious to him for allowing Wes to upload the entire debate on his channel 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Yeah, this moderator should be letting Wess speak more and he should be listening more being he is the Historian that has dedicated his life to Historical literature. Mark can learn something instead of continual hearing himself speak.
He is the worst
He tried to get it removed.
@@_azurejake I believe in helping to better people, and trying to speak well of them. But he was such an insufferable fool I could barely stand to listen whenever he interjected quite rudely
It’s important to approach history with both rigor and openness, especially when pursuing a Ph.D. I understand your commitment to facts and the scientific process, but I urge you to consider that not all history is documented in writing. For many African civilizations, oral traditions were the primary means of preserving history-an invaluable resource especially given the deliberate destruction of institutions like African universities and knowledge systems during invasions and colonialism.
One major example is the Library of Alexandria, historically associated with Alexander the Great. This institution was one of the largest repositories of human knowledge, including significant contributions from African civilizations such as Kemet (ancient Egypt). Its destruction-whether by neglect, conquest, or a combination of factors-was a blow to African and global knowledge systems. Scholars such as George G. M. James in Stolen Legacy argue that much of the knowledge attributed to Greek philosophers was rooted in African teachings and traditions.
Closer to modern times, the University of Timbuktu in Mali, part of the Sankore complex, was a center of advanced learning in the 14th and 15th centuries. Colonial invasions disrupted its operations, while the burning of the Royal Archives of Asante by the British in 1874 further erased African intellectual heritage. These deliberate acts left oral history as the only surviving medium for many communities.
Oral traditions are also validated by scientific research. Take the Dogon tribe of Mali, whose oral history contains intricate knowledge of the Sirius star system. Researchers like Marcel Griaule and Germaine Dieterlen documented their advanced astronomical knowledge in the 1930s, including details about Sirius B-a star invisible to the naked eye until modern telescopes confirmed it. While interpretations remain debated, this highlights how oral traditions often preserve scientific truths overlooked by Western methodologies.
Ignoring oral traditions risks marginalizing entire cultures and their histories. Historical evidence is not limited to written records; it includes oral accounts, archaeological findings, and cultural practices. A true historian seeks to piece together all available evidence to tell a more complete story of humanity. I hope your perspective can expand to include these realities, as history is enriched when we embrace diverse ways of knowing.
I understand that you believe in what you believe in, but the problem with historians until this point in time, it has always been about believing your sciences as europeans and not looking at the world with an open mind. Be careful, not is not the time for one sidedness nore lies. That time has passed.
I appreciate this middleman he played his role well. He spoke as a christian.
This was a lesson not a debate, you were really respectful Wes thank you for posting.
Indeed
Actually crazy how Wes was just lecturing, not even debating theology, just lecturing Billy on how to read history
Hinduism was the first religion . So now everything has to follow what these 2 say because it’s the truth? lol yet they don’t even know how the pyramids where build but they know the TRUTH which is Christian’s lol hahahahhahah
Well said❤
It’s fascinating how much effort is put into dismissing African contributions to history and knowledge systems. To those who say oral traditions don’t count as history, let me remind you that when you deliberately destroy written records, like burning African universities and knowledge centers, you leave people no choice but to preserve their history verbally. For example, colonial invasions targeted institutions like the University of Timbuktu and even before that, Alexander the Great’s conquests led to the destruction of African knowledge systems, such as those housed in the Library of Alexandria.
And let’s not forget the Dogon tribe, whose oral traditions contain advanced knowledge of the Sirius star system, as documented by researchers like Marcel Griaule. These are not myths; they are facts that challenge your narrow view of history.
This isn’t about angels, demons, or aliens in the sky. It’s about people and the survival of their histories. Just as the New Testament justified slavery with verses like Ephesians 6:5-9, colonial powers used tools like Christianity and imperialism to erase and control. African generations continue to suffer from the begotten benefits of this system, so we watch very carefully what is said about religion and history.
Dismiss these truths if you want, but the evidence is clear-history is far more complex than just what’s written by the victors.
Well done Wesley, you debated both of those men (neither of which really knew what they were talking about) with grace, eloquence and patience. Admirable
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He said more in the less than 30 minutes they gave him than those 2 dopes did in 90 minutes. Painful.
They kept interrupting him, and he is the smartest person in the room!
Exactly! I’m only 5 mins into this and I’m shocked at how unqualified both Mark and Billy are to even be in a discussion about Jesus and Christianity. Wes was incredibly patient and respectful to them.
After reading this Comment I got what I needed to know. Not even gonna waste my time by watching this anymore than I already had
Wes - thanks for speaking the truth and putting in the time to do so. God bless you.
Moderator: I don’t want to interrupt while continuing to interrupt 😂
For real… and long interruptions that provide nothing. No offense, but you’re not why we’re here. 😂
I reckon! Much like his continual insistence that he's a Christian when he's clearly not.
Right? Sorry for the interruption but let me just monologue for 5 mins
Did you know his wife is Muslim?
There is a reason why he is not in the same league as Wes and Billy because he doesn’t want to listen and learn. He wants to make his point and not actually listen to the answer. Continuing cutting off Wes shows his inability to settle his mind and heart and take in the information, process it and comprehend it. He assumes the landing point and before Wes finishes talking, a bit slow but hopefully it was a learning step for him.
Why invite two guys on a podcast to debate and then painfully interrupt with 10 minute tangents that neither your own guests or your audience has any interest in?
As annoying as that was he did introduce me to wes.
Why do an interview if you don’t have time to sit through it..
Why ask questions then when you get an answer change the topic and not even dive deeper into what you asked for clarity on .. billy asked all these questions, let the guy interrupt then he doesnt even stay on topic he brings up fake text to compare it to the bible we know and accept.. which tells us he doesnt even care.. then he says in other words, if God is real and knows all, slaves wouldnt exist.. so basically if God is real then there would be no evil.. which ignores free will and says Billy didnt read the bible to understand how free will is in context.. beyond that this says his idea of creator is no evil or no negative ..
Once God gave humans free will, which is as simple as a test to obey.. thats God giving room for evil. Otherwise what? Kill us? No instead allow us to REPRODUCE. But they dont even touch on that lets me know they dont read the bible nor care about that at all. They read counter points, study then. And make it a thing they can revolve a show around. Show being to attract you to their own presence .. they all feel the need to say how great they are and what they accomplished and how the person with the opposing idea is bad and a bad person . Just hearsay and down talking.
In any other context, the moderator would be slightly funny with how much of a hippy he was. However, this was neither the time nor the place for humor, so he's just annoying.
The two guests were good ( one was Credible) …the host though…Good Lord he was terrible….. talking way too much and struggling to make coherent statements…. Let the guests speak Bro….. Your interjections took away from the conversation
About 15 minutes in and I feel like I'm losing IQ points watching this. Props to Wes for his patience and respect.
I was about to write the same thing!
omg right?! i had to fast forward through the moderator lmfao
Word 🤯
And yet the proof is in the pudding as the saying goes. Billy is 100% correct, the outcome of reading and internalizing the Bible as a whole always ends in tremendous human suffering. Time and time again. It is by design a collection of books programming for division and violence.
It also has nothing to do with what Christ the Nazarene actually taught, he was a Gnostic and as it so happens the only surviving Gnostic community not exterminated by the Church or time are the Nazarenes (Nasuraiya) located in southern Iraq
I'm stuck at 14:04, and already feel bad for those two seated at the desk together. I just learned of the existence of Billy Carson yesterday evening, while visiting with two brothers inlaw who are ministers, lol.
Never underestimate a man learned in biblical apologetics and the historicity of Christ.
“May I ask you a clarification question “. Is the most Epic Walk-Down in debate history
Not even close. Wes sounds like every biblical scholar. The Egyptian creation story is enough to cancel his argument but it’s not acceptable in their methodology
@@dillonroyalfeathayes8976truth sound the same from different people! Thats how we know the gospel of Jesus is true! If you cant believe that after this debate then i pray for you
@ I hear you on that, but Billy didn't go there, he went away from Egypt and resorted to using Annunaki Pseudo rhetoric Wich cause him be on the defense for the rest of the debate
@@Square-Life_Brackdoesn’t make wes right. Billy was just clearly off
@@dillonroyalfeathayes8976 Could you elaborate?
The moderator taught me to be patient when listening to someone struggling to speak 😅😂😂😂
It’s going way over his head
The moderator taught me that you don’t need to be able to speak well or think well to be a semi-successful podcaster.
it was agony. He speaks soooooo slow and incoherently.
The moderator is high as hell, brains all mush from too much pot 🤣
I can relate to this 😂😂
Wes, after watching you on JRE and then this, brother, I am a fan! Congratulations for your patience and poise in fighting against false prophets in this era. May God continue to give you revelation and grace. We'll be watching and praying for you.
Billy Carson this child doesn't know everything, but through you this child will know the truth
From now on I will keep listening to Wes Huff. This guy is well informed, inteligent, sharp, on point, patient and full of grace.
He is such a gentle man in this video.
He has my respect 🙏🙏🙏
Me too
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I've been in Pastoral ministry now for three decades and I've studied & taught Christian/Biblical apologetics for much of that time. Wes is a gracious young man who knows History, Theology, original languages, etc. His presentation was a master class. Billy seems to be one of those people who thinks he's more intellectual than he actually is.
WELL SAID
Yea Billy just tawkin’ sad he couldn’t give his method for verification of the things he’s “heard” as if they were facts
@pastorjimwalls5924
Perhaps you can answer a couple questions?
*How can the Messiah be the ancestor/ROOT (in the flesh) and offspring (in the flesh) of David and The Root of Jesse?*
Matthew 22:41-45
Isaiah 11:1-4
Isaiah 11:10
Romans 15:12
(Spoiler: The answer is NOT that Jesus created Adam; Scripture records that The Most High God (YHWH Elohim -Singular) Formed Adam in Genesis 2:7.
Matthew 22:41-46
41 While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them,
42 Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he?
*(Jesus is asking what bloodline The Messiah would come through)*
They say unto him, The Son of David.
43 He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying,
44 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool?
45 *If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?*
(Jesus is asking “How The Messiah can be the ANCESTOR and OFFSPRING of David?”)
46 And no man was able to answer him a word, neither durst any man from that day forth ask him any more questions.
What is the answer?
Billy and Sentchin are science fiction writers trying to sell books
Bible is the devil
Wes not making it to Florida was a actually a blessing in disguise, the fact that he was able to effortlessly reach for all his references at the comfort of his office, set a very positive standard for the conversation/debate at the same time drawing my full focus and attention to it. God bless you man 🇿🇦
I never leave comments…but this was almost intolerable because of the moderator. Wes Huff destroyed everything with Christian love, patience and hard facts. Well done brother. You are an example to us all!
Wes is like the parental supervision that Billy always needed but didn’t want.
First time I heard Wes, he truly went out of his way to treat Billy respectfully. Class act!
should've been more disrespectful to the moderator, let the man answer
Why does someone have to go out of their way to respect another? Are you serious? What is wrong with people? Oh yea religion 🙄
Wes, I have served in ministry for nearly two decades. I am currently working through my MA in NT, and can reasonably read ancient Greek. I have spent many years focused on hermeneutics, developing an understanding of ANE and 1st-century worldviews. In short, I am a bible nerd. That said, this was difficult to watch, but also extremely encouraging. Watching you demonstrate grace, patience, and humility as I shouted at my computer screen was a reminder that the anger of man does not produce the righteousness of God. I think that this scenario was likely very frustrating for you, but you did not let that overwhelm you. You're pretty dang awesome. I thank you for what you do. It is inspiring.
Sounds wonderful! Enjoy your studies!!
One of the best comments. What made me pay attention to Wes was the fact the Holy Spirit already revealed to me, things Wes spoke about. Because I had questions and no answers. Digging deep in the scriptures. I've seen the great Isaiah scroll in person when I lived in Minnesota. I'm telling you, tho i. A reformed Baptist, the presence of almighty God was very real in the museum. My mom came with me the second time we visited it, she can testify to that. It was sooooo powerful. So powerful. A holiness like upon salvation. One that you cannot get away from. One you don't want to.
God truly and absolutely meant he would preserve his word. He is not a liar.
I feel your pain. LOL! I shouldn't laugh because it is not Christ-like for me to get so emotional (although Lord willing, I hope I would do better in person) over the comments from these two men, but watching Wes has been convicting and encouraging.
Praise Yah for inspiring Wes by His Spirit of Truth.
You handled this with SUCH GRACE, DIGNITY, STRENGTH, & GENTILITY. You represented the faith ADMIRABLY WES!
Amen
Yes. Gentleman in every respect.
I resonate heavily with Wes but that doesn’t make Billy wrong,
I’m not going to give Wes the W so easily
If you immediately think “Wes trounced Billy”
you’re conditioned from the misguided materialisms of the enlightenment and you’ve become an unaware postmodernist, with the reflexive need to debunk, like the intellectual atheists do
Both these speakers are completely right but in seemingly different, and even polar ways
Billy is broadly correct on metaphysics
Whereas Wes is broadly correct on history
You don’t have to understand the Dao to follow Christ, but you MUST follow Christ if you are to understand the Dao 🙏
Wes hasn't proved his point any more than Billy has-neither one of them was around during biblical times, so the idea that Wes "cooked" Billy is absolutely ridiculous. What’s really wild is seeing folks act like Wes is some divine spokesperson when it’s painfully obvious there’s malice in his heart. And let’s not ignore these so-called "followers of Christ" running around dripping with hate. If their goal is to lead anyone to Christ, they might want to rethink their strategy because this ain’t it. Honestly, these people are nothing more than white supremacists hiding behind religion to give themselves a fake moral high ground. If their intentions were truly pure, they wouldn’t be pulling the nonsense they’re pulling.
@@jacksonelmore6227did you actually watch the video all of the man's biblical sources was debunked as fraudulent or complete jokes how can I call truth something that is based on a lie
The host keeps making it about himself.