What an incredible video. Great insight from a fantastic Zac player! Hearing from Engage would always be awesome, but your preparation raises the quality even more. You bringing pre-researched questions and conjectures makes these type of videos absolutely top tier.
Really wish there was tiny discussion on his choice of anathemas chains. Also would love insight on top ban options. Fantastic video and great learning
Thanks so much for this video Nathan and Engage. I already ate a lot of both your content and I keep coming back to this video for solidifying my mindset. Im a plat Zac main (and climbing) and engage is a big inspiration. I agree with a lot what he says and he adds so much more context and nuance. He truly is one with the champion.
this is awesome i love these videos lately, just two really good players discussing and exploring how they think about the game - really amazing stuff.
These type of videos are EXTREMELY helpful! It has improved me significantly over these past days... Even though my OTP (Wukong) pick isn't featured in these videos, I still improved so much with these. Only problem for me with THIS video is that he SPOILED the last game! Just kidding... It's fine! XD
Nathan long time fan here. I love what you preach about the game but I’m having difficulty’s with reviewing my gameplay. I was wondering if you could make a video going in depth on what a good review looks like.
Great video as always! I am not so sure about starting herlad right after that top gank. To me it looks like hecarim will be able to contest it from base. Zac has no HP ult or passive, while hecarim has items and hp. Top wants to reset and the game is already in a really good state. Isn’t it safer to reset and move to clear bot camps? Or (if one beliefs herald to be important) reset and move straight to it?
I personaly begin zac and I'm surprise because I thought that his early game was not that bad, I just outplay and I destroy all most every game. I'm not very hight it must be the reason
YES! Zac feels awful in the beginning of the game. you need like 3 levels in E before it feels worth anything. That's level 5 damn! Meanwhile WW or Udyr are getting leads. It sucks. I was a Zac OTP. He's one of my favorite champs.
Cách tôi chơi Zac còn hay hơn bạn nhiều ... Tài khoản cũ tôi lúc trước chơi Zac là 3500000 thông thạo ở bật Thách đấu ... Cách bạn chơi Zac chỉ toàn phụ thuộc vào đội thôi không gánh đội được ... Lên trang bị hay chọn bảng ngọc đều yếu về cuối trò chơi ... Nếu đánh 1 với 1 kẻ thù loại mạnh hiện tại thì không có thể thắng nổi với kiểu chơi như bạn ... Cách tôi chơi dù đánh 1 kẻ thù hay nhiều đối với tôi vẫn bình thường ... Vì tôi không chỉ có sát thương & độ chống chịu cao nên càng đánh thì càng sống sót ... Trò chơi kéo dài càng lâu tôi càng mạnh ...
hypothesis why very low Zac pick rate : people like me who think they can one day pilot their favorite assassin to high elo, why play Zac when I can lock in Kha’zix*. Zac is not a sexy champion design for the plat and below like me, “reliant on team because a tank” toxic perception, not free elo, specialized gank pattern like Nunu or Rek’sai. His visual design is also literally just green blob. I’m sure once I watch this video I’ll see all sorts of awesome nuances and positives for Zac but for an average player it’s, idk if this is accurate but, “low dopamine” champion. * I say this sarcastically about myself, I know that I should not be playing khazix to climb as a silver-gold, I should really just play Vi or Xin Zhao or other “simpler” fighter if I want assassin-like playstyle and get better at league at same time. I’ve signed “soloq contract” to not climbing since I want to play Kha’zix in ranked as a low elo player. However most non-BBC-mentality players genuinely have mindset of “I will carry my team with huge damage and 1v9 pentakill I’m so good” and think they are only held back by [insert toxic narrative].
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Thank you for having me was a lot of fun
These are definitely the best educational jungle videos out there. Love it.
Glad to hear you find them helpful
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What an incredible video. Great insight from a fantastic Zac player! Hearing from Engage would always be awesome, but your preparation raises the quality even more.
You bringing pre-researched questions and conjectures makes these type of videos absolutely top tier.
Just when I thought I couldn't love Nathan anymore. He whips out the guide for my main.
XD
You're looking at pic rate for Zac top 🙃 Jungle is still low, just above 3% in most ranks. Thanks for the great long format content!!
Haha, that's embarassing
Also it's not Gold+, that only shows for Gold specifically
@@nathanmott Much easier to criticize than create 🤪 Thanks again I learned a lot from this.
@@iiYoan I'm stats noob
Really wish there was tiny discussion on his choice of anathemas chains. Also would love insight on top ban options.
Fantastic video and great learning
Master class, thank you so much
Thanks so much for this video Nathan and Engage. I already ate a lot of both your content and I keep coming back to this video for solidifying my mindset.
Im a plat Zac main (and climbing) and engage is a big inspiration. I agree with a lot what he says and he adds so much more context and nuance. He truly is one with the champion.
this is awesome i love these videos lately, just two really good players discussing and exploring how they think about the game - really amazing stuff.
This and The donghuap video, Engage is getting a spotlight today
These type of videos are EXTREMELY helpful! It has improved me significantly over these past days... Even though my OTP (Wukong) pick isn't featured in these videos, I still improved so much with these. Only problem for me with THIS video is that he SPOILED the last game! Just kidding... It's fine! XD
Why would you lie in the title? Thats clearly the Worst Zac EUW
you let your guest speak calmly and it makes a good video. good job.
Great content. These are a not only good to learn champions but to know how to play against these champions as well.
Hey Nathan, it'd be rly cool if u got to do one of these videos with one of the euw udyr otps, such as Malice or Aribo. Thanks for the cool vid.
Great content as always, and I would love to see a bel'veth video
zac still my main to this day, such a fun champion.
Can't wait for the next one!
incrivel!!!
Nathan long time fan here. I love what you preach about the game but I’m having difficulty’s with reviewing my gameplay. I was wondering if you could make a video going in depth on what a good review looks like.
Hey James, I teach how to review in my jungle coaching program - Saltu. Head to saltu.gg/ to sign up.
Thanks
Great video as always!
I am not so sure about starting herlad right after that top gank. To me it looks like hecarim will be able to contest it from base. Zac has no HP ult or passive, while hecarim has items and hp. Top wants to reset and the game is already in a really good state. Isn’t it safer to reset and move to clear bot camps? Or (if one beliefs herald to be important) reset and move straight to it?
MAN YOU THE BEST REALLY
I would be really interested to see a matchup tierlist from this zac identity
So glad you had @Engage_lol ! All hail Zac
thanks i am zac main 200k + and this really helped me
Awesome vid! Perhaps a Rengar soon?
Rengar noted.
If I don't gank early my team comes crazy..
Litteraly 2 vids on Engage within the same Minute. you and DongHuap uploaded 43 min ago 😂
What a coincidence!
Nice vid, thoughts on demonic after evershroud?
Without League of Legends, what would these guys be doing? Flipping burgers?
when you gonna sit down with dantes xD
Why ist he showing the Pickrate of Zac for toplane?
I personaly begin zac and I'm surprise because I thought that his early game was not that bad, I just outplay and I destroy all most every game. I'm not very hight it must be the reason
Could you learn with an Udyr main?
Any chance we get a elise video?
Isnt radiant virtue better on zac?
58:50 WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING 3 MINUTES IN THIS GAME
YES! Zac feels awful in the beginning of the game. you need like 3 levels in E before it feels worth anything. That's level 5 damn! Meanwhile WW or Udyr are getting leads. It sucks. I was a Zac OTP. He's one of my favorite champs.
Sooo you and dong uploaded at the same time on purpose?
Spooky
Cách tôi chơi Zac còn hay hơn bạn nhiều ... Tài khoản cũ tôi lúc trước chơi Zac là 3500000 thông thạo ở bật Thách đấu ... Cách bạn chơi Zac chỉ toàn phụ thuộc vào đội thôi không gánh đội được ... Lên trang bị hay chọn bảng ngọc đều yếu về cuối trò chơi ... Nếu đánh 1 với 1 kẻ thù loại mạnh hiện tại thì không có thể thắng nổi với kiểu chơi như bạn ... Cách tôi chơi dù đánh 1 kẻ thù hay nhiều đối với tôi vẫn bình thường ... Vì tôi không chỉ có sát thương & độ chống chịu cao nên càng đánh thì càng sống sót ... Trò chơi kéo dài càng lâu tôi càng mạnh ...
can you collab with coach eagz
hypothesis why very low Zac pick rate : people like me who think they can one day pilot their favorite assassin to high elo, why play Zac when I can lock in Kha’zix*. Zac is not a sexy champion design for the plat and below like me, “reliant on team because a tank” toxic perception, not free elo, specialized gank pattern like Nunu or Rek’sai. His visual design is also literally just green blob. I’m sure once I watch this video I’ll see all sorts of awesome nuances and positives for Zac but for an average player it’s, idk if this is accurate but, “low dopamine” champion.
* I say this sarcastically about myself, I know that I should not be playing khazix to climb as a silver-gold, I should really just play Vi or Xin Zhao or other “simpler” fighter if I want assassin-like playstyle and get better at league at same time. I’ve signed “soloq contract” to not climbing since I want to play Kha’zix in ranked as a low elo player. However most non-BBC-mentality players genuinely have mindset of “I will carry my team with huge damage and 1v9 pentakill I’m so good” and think they are only held back by [insert toxic narrative].
Early game of zac is bad?????
Yes. Zac before lvl 4 is bad.