I actually really like the new scoring system. I think it give gymnasts well deserved dues for doing more difficult elements. It just makes more sense to me.
It's fun to watch these competition for the first time and hear them talk about how and where Nastia would end up at the Olympics or winning the American Cup. And knowing the results already. She did win them all.
Al's had 11 years practice of not understanding the Code of Points. Happy anniversary Al! 😂😂😂 Keep it up!!! And, Elfie already sounds disgusted when an athlete falls, "8 tenths," she scoffs!!! Let the athletes adjust to the new way of judging/CoP first!
Marta rubbing it in each competitors face after they performed either well or badly was sickening and unprofessional. First Nastia fell then she blabbers about it like a child, then Shayla does her beam and Marta just seemed to intentionally guilt trip Nastia and mess with her head...Then finally Nastia does well on floor, suddenly she’s back in Marta’s good graces and then before the winner is even announced Marta is gloating in such a childish way in front of Shayla who was super professional and low key about it but she was probably crushed! It was just heart wrenching to watch on both of the girls parts when Marta made a fool of them. So completely unnecessary and plain mean. Why does she act like a 5 year old. Save it for when it’s not live on tv, she can criticise the after and not mess with their potential to perform. She definitely could have waited til Nastia was actually announced the winner too before congratulating her so openly 🤬
Elfi was FAR from the greatest Canadian gymnast ever. Stella Umeh, Lori Strong, Larrisa Lowing, Yvonne Tousek, Kate Richardson, at this point were already superior to her.
@@trodairebeag front tumbling isn’t blind when you twist especially a front half Forward landings in general are blind at the very end but not all front tumbling
@@kras118 The Composition Requirement was indeed enforced. Liukin somehow got everything credited here (the Randi and switch ring were trash) and would have had a 6.3 A score with a double salto.
@@turbojon8117- the double salto composition requirement went into effect in June of 2006. I believe the judges arrived at the 5.8 D score as follows: - Downgrade Randi to front double twist (-0.1 DV, -0.1 CV) - Front double twist becomes repeated elements (No DV) - Liukin has to count an A element as one of her ten elements vs. a D (-0.3 DV) - Total A Score Lost = 0.5
When Elfi says that Zamo is still competing in international competitions to "win cash", it made my skin crawl. Perhaps someone else could have said the same sentence & I wouldn't have had such a visceral reaction, but Elfi's tone/inflection/articulation/SOMETHING made my skin crawl. As I am writing this comment, Tim just said something about helping to subsidize training & living expenses. Perhaps if Elfi had articulated differently than that the girl wanted to win "cash", it would have sounded more sympathetic and less bitchy. IDK whether I, myself, am even articulating my point well :( Elfi gets a lot of hate, and I've never paid much attention to it, but I am starting to dislike her as well. If anyone made it this far and is also rubbed the wrong way by Elfi, pls respond & explain how she bothers you. I am really trying to make sense of my newfound hatred, lol.
Yes, I've been watching old stuff around this time period and she commented somewhere along the lines, like ripped into some girl (from Romania I think?) at a World's maybe, about not being at the same level as the rest of the athletes and was just so harsh. She could have just said that the girl was at a lower level than the others and leave it at that but she really was negative and nasty about it. I wish I could remember which one was it was, but she was just SAVAGE. It was so unnecessary. I liked Elfi when she first started but somewhere around the 2004 olympics she seemed to get really mean about things.
@@cgkitti that comment from Elfi was at 2003 Worlds about a gymnast on the Russian team. If you go back to her first American Cup in the 90s, she sounds a lot more professional
they talk about the changes in Russia and the new challenges and then Elfi says that's why they are still hanging on to athletes like Elena. Ouch! I felt the bitch tone in that.
Ew she really was bitchy to Zamo in this. “Hoping to win (cash)” Just say hoping to win! There were some meets from the ‘00s, ‘01s where Elfi and Al kept bringing up cash prizes and it made me cringe so much. People never bring up the money for a football team winning, why bring it up here? And why ONLY in relation to Zamo? Really makes me dislike Elfi.
You have to remember that the Russian athletes AAT this tine weren't just supoorting themselves, but there m their families. So they do compete for cash for that reason.
I actually really like the new scoring system. I think it give gymnasts well deserved dues for doing more difficult elements. It just makes more sense to me.
Courtney Kolenda I agree. Perhaps the commentators feel differently these days.
To a degree, yes.
Absolutely correct. The 1997 world championships beam finals highlighted the need for rewards for difficulty.
It's fun to watch these competition for the first time and hear them talk about how and where Nastia would end up at the Olympics or winning the American Cup. And knowing the results already. She did win them all.
QOTD:
"Aim for progress, not perfection."
Al's had 11 years practice of not understanding the Code of Points. Happy anniversary Al! 😂😂😂 Keep it up!!!
And, Elfie already sounds disgusted when an athlete falls, "8 tenths," she scoffs!!! Let the athletes adjust to the new way of judging/CoP first!
Brian Mulligan I feel like they just came up with the green yellow and red arrows was just made for al
Brian Mulligan Elfi scoffs at virtually everything other than skinny white girls who perform well-executed, artistic routines
Elfi is a witch- the whole world knows that. She certainly isn’t “Canada’s greatest” anymore, not by a long shot. That belongs solely to Ellie Black.
Idiot, what else is she supposed to say?! If it really bothers you that much, go watch something else!
Poor Zamo, That was a rough competition for her.
Wild to see zamo so out of it here. But she’d been going nonstop since well before 2000
We not gonna talk about Nastia's fall was probably one of the best falls recorded in gymnastics?
Did she look close to tears when her dad hugged her after the beam?
I actually really like Zamo's turn on beam
Marta rubbing it in each competitors face after they performed either well or badly was sickening and unprofessional. First Nastia fell then she blabbers about it like a child, then Shayla does her beam and Marta just seemed to intentionally guilt trip Nastia and mess with her head...Then finally Nastia does well on floor, suddenly she’s back in Marta’s good graces and then before the winner is even announced Marta is gloating in such a childish way in front of Shayla who was super professional and low key about it but she was probably crushed! It was just heart wrenching to watch on both of the girls parts when Marta made a fool of them. So completely unnecessary and plain mean. Why does she act like a 5 year old. Save it for when it’s not live on tv, she can criticise the after and not mess with their potential to perform. She definitely could have waited til Nastia was actually announced the winner too before congratulating her so openly 🤬
She is a monster. No other word could accurately describe her- or her husband. They should be serving prison sentences.
I like Zhou's floor routine. that full twisting split jump to the floor is cool.
What exactly happened to worley on beam? I know she messed up that backwards series but I couldn't quite see what went wrong.
On her back leg, look at how close her knee is to the beam after that layout.
Best of broadcast tim daggett.
Elfi was FAR from the greatest Canadian gymnast ever. Stella Umeh, Lori Strong, Larrisa Lowing, Yvonne Tousek, Kate Richardson, at this point were already superior to her.
I loved Leah Homma too
Janine Rankin ♥ Monica Covacci :)
And now Ellie Black- definitely their greatest female gymnast.
1:23:08 Did Nastia rack up points from front tumbling? Is that harder than back hand spring entrances? Im new to gymnastics.
Yea. It is. Cuz front tumbling is ALL blind landings. You can't see the for until you land!!
@@trodairebeag front tumbling isn’t blind when you twist especially a front half
Forward landings in general are blind at the very end but not all front tumbling
@@trodairebeagnot if the number of twists ends in a .5, then it’s a backward landing and not a forward
Which gymnasts have performed six tumbling passes during fx?! (re: Elfi's comment around 1:03)
In this CoP, did Nastia not need to do a double salto for 0.5 CR?
she did -- but I think that rule went into affect at Worlds that year. She started doing the double front at Nationals later in 2006
@@kras118 The Composition Requirement was indeed enforced. Liukin somehow got everything credited here (the Randi and switch ring were trash) and would have had a 6.3 A score with a double salto.
@@turbojon8117- the double salto composition requirement went into effect in June of 2006.
I believe the judges arrived at the 5.8 D score as follows:
- Downgrade Randi to front double twist (-0.1 DV, -0.1 CV)
- Front double twist becomes repeated elements (No DV)
- Liukin has to count an A element as one of her ten elements vs. a D (-0.3 DV)
- Total A Score Lost = 0.5
I really loved Aisha gerbees beam. Her skills and lines are so pretty and unique
That save by Aisha on beam is still the best save I’ve ever seen on that apparatus.
Aisha gerber had the same music as that Australian girl at pacific rims that broke her leg 😬😬
Marta "coaching" shayla after beam... What a joke
Shayla goes into the mat like a knife in soft cheese
why did she stop doing the double lay? so much nicer than that double front. ugh
she got too tall and was having trouble getting it around
When Elfi says that Zamo is still competing in international competitions to "win cash", it made my skin crawl. Perhaps someone else could have said the same sentence & I wouldn't have had such a visceral reaction, but Elfi's tone/inflection/articulation/SOMETHING made my skin crawl. As I am writing this comment, Tim just said something about helping to subsidize training & living expenses. Perhaps if Elfi had articulated differently than that the girl wanted to win "cash", it would have sounded more sympathetic and less bitchy. IDK whether I, myself, am even articulating my point well :( Elfi gets a lot of hate, and I've never paid much attention to it, but I am starting to dislike her as well. If anyone made it this far and is also rubbed the wrong way by Elfi, pls respond & explain how she bothers you. I am really trying to make sense of my newfound hatred, lol.
Yes, I've been watching old stuff around this time period and she commented somewhere along the lines, like ripped into some girl (from Romania I think?) at a World's maybe, about not being at the same level as the rest of the athletes and was just so harsh. She could have just said that the girl was at a lower level than the others and leave it at that but she really was negative and nasty about it. I wish I could remember which one was it was, but she was just SAVAGE. It was so unnecessary. I liked Elfi when she first started but somewhere around the 2004 olympics she seemed to get really mean about things.
@@cgkitti that comment from Elfi was at 2003 Worlds about a gymnast on the Russian team. If you go back to her first American Cup in the 90s, she sounds a lot more professional
they talk about the changes in Russia and the new challenges and then Elfi says that's why they are still hanging on to athletes like Elena. Ouch! I felt the bitch tone in that.
Ew she really was bitchy to Zamo in this.
“Hoping to win (cash)” Just say hoping to win!
There were some meets from the ‘00s, ‘01s where Elfi and Al kept bringing up cash prizes and it made me cringe so much. People never bring up the money for a football team winning, why bring it up here? And why ONLY in relation to Zamo? Really makes me dislike Elfi.
You have to remember that the Russian athletes AAT this tine weren't just supoorting themselves, but there m their families. So they do compete for cash for that reason.
Poor hambuchen...not his day
Devora H right? If only he knew what would happen a decade later :)
Why do commentators always need to mention when a gymnast had or has braces? I mean, who cares?
Because they think it’s relevant. Stupid- but it’s the mentality they carried.
The girl from Brazil looks a young Aly raisman!
Lais souza
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