Sagallo: Russia's African Colony
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ค. 2024
- Okay; when talking about the colonization of Africa most people think of the British, French, Portuguese...maybe the Belgians, Italians, Spanish, or even the Germans. But, Russia doesn't exactly come to mind and why should it? Saint Petersburg never formally possessed any colonial holding on the continent. That isn't for a lack of trying, however.
In the late 19th century, a Cossack adventurer by the name of Nikolai Ivanovich Achinov traveled to Abyssinia (Ethiopia) were he aimed to establish Russia's first colony in what is nowadays the East African country of Djibouti. He wasn't alone in this venture though, accompanied by 150 Cossacks and other would-be colonists. What's more, back in Russia, Achinov had (sort of) benefited from the patronage of Tsar Alexander III - against the wishes of his foreign minister, Nikolay Giers.
All of this culminated in a short-lived settlement off the Gulf of Tadjoura known as Sagallo, which, despite everything, ultimately ended in a diplomatic fiasco for Russia.
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00:00 Intro
01:44 Who Exactly was Nikolai Ivanovich Achinov?
03:18 Off to Ethiopia
05:21 Obock Territory, Léonce Lagarde, and the Making of French Somaliland
07:04 Blessings from the Russian Orthodox Church
08:37 Fun Times in Constantinople
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“Egyptian invasion of Sudan which involved veterans from the American civil war” I love the Victorian era lmao. What a wild time
Those veterans were highly unsuccessful and cost the Egyptians a lot, specially during their war with Ethiopia.
The Russians' involvement in Africa is a rather overlooked part of history and even modern day politics.
Oh, I definitely agree! Sagallo is next to unknown for many and, like you said, Russia's current involvement often receives very little attention, which is ironic considering how much they've garnered influence in certain African countries. I think CAR stands out, but you can also look at more recent events in Mali and Burkina Faso. I know it was only mentioned briefly in the video, but I'm sure we'll revisit the topic when doing other videos.
even russia overlooks their african colony
@@randomguy6152 In a way, I find it kind of similar to Germany's colonial history - in that it's mostly just forgotten - but yeah. 😅
@@GhostCountries I think Russia’s involvement on the continent does get a lot of attention. The war between Russia and Ukraine and the resulting shortage of grain and food stuffs as well as other supplies had a huge impact. And the Wagnar Groups been active in Mali, Central African Republic, Mozambique and Libya. It’s getting more attention in modern day than before
@@historyking9984 Before they started the war, almost no one knew this stuff. Only now do Russias power plays in the world start to gain attention, also because the Wagner Group is too involved in the Ukraine invasion.
0:28 As a resident of Tatarstan, I was extremely amused that the author considers us a "colony" of Russia. I may surprise someone, but Tatarstan, Yakutia, Chechnya, Karelia and other republics are not a colony of Russia, on the contrary, they have much more rights than other regions in the federation ;)
Чувак имел ввиду Российскую империю. Но да, даже в Российской империи положение Казани было как «центральной губернии»
Oh, yeah; I didn't mean the Russia of today, but Imperial Russia. Although, if I'm remembering correctly, it Tsardom of Russia that conquered the Khanate of Kazan during the Russo-Kazan Wars.
@@GhostCountries Well, it's actually a deep topic, but in general, it's completely different from what westerners used to think about colonization. Russian Empire was a continental empire and was always multicultural, so it just couldn't be the same as British Empire. Otherwise it would collapse long before Peter the Great. A lot of scholars still discuss if there was an actual colonization of Tatarstan or Georgia, because most of the lands of the Russian Empire was just a part of an Empire, they didn't stand as protectorates (except Southern region of Central Asia and Northern Caucasus, though) or smh.
I'm myself mostly have heritage from those “colonized” lands. But if we will look at the conditions of how Russian peasants lived in Russian Empire and compare it with Tatar peasants, or Georgian shepherds, or Kazakh shepherds, then we'll notice that everyone just lived generally bad, while Tatar, Russian, Georgian, Kazakh aristocrats lived in clover.
@@ernstachterhof6481 That's a valid point - especially regarding the still ongoing debate over if the Russian conquest of Tartarstan (and other lands) technically can be labeled "colonization." Honestly, I think a reasonable argument can be made both for and against labeling it as such.
I think we'll explore the topic more - because it definitely isn't just black and white, like you pointed out - in a stand alone video at some point. Exactly when that will be though, I don't know. 😅But, it certainly is interesting from a historical perspective and, fast forwarding to the present, in seeing how people from places like Tartarstan view their history in relation to modern Russia.
( they have much more rights than other regions in the federation)
They surely have much more rights than other ethnic-cultural groups-regions in Europe, like Basque, Corsicans (France), Welsh, Scotts, Irish, Cornish (Britain), Samogitians (Lithuanian) Sami People (Norway, Sweden, and Finland) and of course, the Russian-Ukrainians in eastern-southern Ukraine.
As a Djiboutian
I visited Sagallo in 2014 the locals tell me about the story of the Russians.
That’s really awesome! Is there historical marker or something like that in the area?
@@GhostCountries What does the flag of Jewish Autonomous Oblast is doing in Russian colonies video? It was created by Soviet Union in 1934.
@@vladimirthomas7219which minute
@@drini9087 0:28 in Africa I meant in Africa. The author uses it like a joke that Russia had a bunch of colonies. And among "colonies" there is this white flag with kinda rainbow colored strips on it. This is a flag of Jewish Autonomous Oblast.
@@vladimirthomas7219 its flag of Finno-Ugric people
I've heard about the Russian colonial attempts in the Horn of Africa, but I never learned the details. It's a very interesting topic and I can't wait for the next part!
This definitely required a fair amount of digging, especially regarding Achinov’s moves once back in Russia (and the French connection, which we’ll explore more in Part II), but honestly, those are the best episodes in my opinion!
@the_jaguar_knight210 That book is definitely going on my list!
Calling them colonial is anything but true as they didnt and likely wouldn't have done the same things other european powers did todays honest and moral righteous democracies, every time i have to hear their narrative for how good they are and how they are right i just wanna puke.
@Георги Паскалев The fact that you think that is simultaneously funny and sad. Let me guess; you also think that Muscovy/the Russian Empire was always very benevolent to all the peoples it conquered across Asia and Europe? If there were any reprisals towards the conquered, they were surely justified by these ingrates not accepting the benevolent Russian rule, as they should. Russia is obviously the magical nation that somehow grew from a relatively small and peripheral Duchy of Moscow (one among many Rus' Principalites, and one that initially grew in power by collaborating with the Mongol overlords by collecting the tribute from others) to the *largest land empire* in the world. And (according to some Russians) has done that without ever attacking anyone.
@@Silver_Prussian Russia is actually an expert in colonialism. Whenever they seized a territory, they always flooded it with colonists.
чел ты серьезно вставил биробиджан как колонизированную страну лмао
Он аутист
Для него вся Россия это тупо колонии
Это просто антироссийская пропаганда
Ты не курсе как русские колонизировали знаменитое Амурское израильское царство? А если на флаг области посмотреть, то тут ещё и колонизация иного рода меньшинств просматривается.
@@user-gs6cq6mq4i Это то самое, произошедшее ровно спустя сто лет после Великой Фино-Корейской войны?
The video is good, I liked it and subscribed, but .. I am a Tatar and like many other Yakuts, Tatars and other peoples of Russia, I condemn the fact that we were called colonies. We are not colonies. We have broad political autonomy and exist in a very comfortable еconomic environment.
According to this "logic" Brittany is a colony of France, Wales is a colony of England, and Catalonia is a colony of Spain. I understand that the author obviously did not want to somehow offend the republics, but it turned out all the same stupid.
Hey, thank you so much for commenting and subscribing! In the video, we were talking about Imperial Russia, not modern Russia, and the conquest of the Khanate of Kazan during the Russo-Kazan Wars. That all being said, we definitely understand there are many different perspectives about what does and doesn't constitute a colony - even among us who made this video - and meant no offense. What I mean is, someone could argue the examples you gave or even others (the British with Ireland, the US with Hawaii, etc.) were also colonies and/or were colonized at one point in their respective histories. Someone else could also make an equally compelling counterargument against using that terminology. Honestly, seeing all the different perspectives relating to this video has made us what to explore the concept of what exactly is a colony in a future video, because there are clearly many differing opinions.
Ha...western people ☕
@@GhostCountries basе.
Thank you very much for understanding and trying to listen to different opinions.
You have very good videos and I'm sure your channel will grow quickly. :)
@@userlox615They cant even point on the worldmap where Ukraine is😂
Представте
Чернороссия
Черная Русь уже существовала и так называли земли к западу от Белоруссии и к югу от литвы
@@DVXDemetrivsТам корень не от чёрного,а от червы,т.е. красная
This is another deep cut from history that I wasn't aware about. Seems like the Russian Empire felt a bit "left out" with expansion into Africa and they tried to wing it a bit. Russia is so big that it is crazy to think they wanted to expand. I guess despite being so big they always have lacked good access to the oceans. Thats why Vladivostok is so important, but imagine the trip from the far east to Africa back then...far from ideal
You kind of saw that with Germany too; there’s even a word “Torschlusspanik,” which means “gate shut panic” that was used to describe the fear of missing out on the colonial scramble. Although, the word itself dates back to the Medieval period.
All that being said, Russia or, at least, some in the country were definitely feeling something like that. And even before Sagallo, there was an attempt by Russia to colonize Madagascar! Like you said though, geography was a definite con here because access from the Black Sea was not guaranteed and coming from Vladivostok was not really practical. Something that was definitely showcased during the Russo-Japanese War.
Still, kind of interesting to think about what could’ve happened if they succeeded.
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How exactly Jewish Autonomous okrug that was established on an uninhabited land during Soviet Union "a Russian Empire colony"?
I mean, the whole of Siberia was essentially a Russian Empire colony, so that includes the land that later became the Jewish Autonomous okrug.
@@johnmackenzie4703 "The Colonised Land"
From the future creators of "Oppressed Air"
@@RedBlackDish It wasn’t completely uninhabited before the Russians came. Tungusic peoples had lived there. Regardless, colonise is a broad term. It can refer to settler colonialisation like what happened in much of the Americas, as well as colonisation in the form that took place in much of Africa where there wasn’t much settlement but institutions were managed by the colonising nation. It is also sometimes used in reference to the potential colonisation of other planets, where we can be sure nobody lives already. It’s a broad term.
@@johnmackenzie4703 According to that logic, every single country that exists (or existed) is a colony, because before there was a country, there wasn't a country. And that renders the term "colony" meaningless
@@RedBlackDish Not really. I think it would absolutely be fair to say that, as an example, the Anglo-Saxons colonised what would later become England. Of course, after a certain point it would no longer make sense to call a country “a colony”. I wouldn’t call the USA a colony today, for example, but it certainly started its life as a colony. In this instance, we are specifically saying that Siberia was colonised by the Russian Empire. I think that’s blatantly true to say. I’m not saying that it is a colony to this day, however.
0:28 its an famous fact that chechnya, Karelia, Sakha, Tatarstan and Buryatia are Russian colonies. Yes, its exactly like that. (No its not)
Yeah they are autonomous republics and without russia they would just be another undeveloped exploited nations with no prospect chechnya, tatarstan and bashkirostan would be another afghanistan, buryatia would be just another chinese provice where the population is oppressed like the Uyghurs, sakha would be like most african nation being exploited
Идёшь вон
Интересный факт Техас Аляска Калифорния это американские колонии
Надеюсь тебе приятно стало
@@Silver_Prussian а Чечня без будущего да? Ты тупой? Она живёт богато в России
I’m glad your channel is finally starting to receive the recognition it deserves!
Oh, thank you so much; the recent growth - mainly from this video - definitely has been nice and we’re hoping part II gets similar treatment!
bros really said that karelia is a colony
well not really a colony but they replaced the natives
@@lee-fc5bu , so you are saying that Hungary is also a colony then?
@@arsray7285 i didnt say it was a colony. also thats not the same thing at all
@@lee-fc5bu, I literally don't care anymore, go on with your day, cheers.
And the jewish autonomous oblast apparently lmao
I think you should talk about the Livonian colonization. Really interesting.
We've actually had a few people recommend that and I completely agree, it would make for a really interesting video! So, it will for sure happen eventually. Oh, and kind of a similar theme, but we did a video a while back on the HRE's failed colony of Klein-Venedig (aka Welserland) in what nowadays is Venezuela / Colombia.
@@GhostCountries I’ll be looking forward to it! 👍
If Russia had been able to establish itself in the area, I wonder how that would've impacted trade - especially for the British with India. I mean, the Horn of Africa is a pretty strategic location, but I guess the British still controlled the Suez Canal and most of Southern Africa.
Oh, it definitely would’ve been a game changer, but exactly to what extent is hard to say. The colony might have just become something like French (or even British) Somaliland, which in the grand scheme of things, amounted to little more than a territorial holding.
That being said, if the Russians really did put all their energy into Sagallo...who knows. The spread of Orthodoxy in Africa, alongside a link with Ethiopia, might’ve drastically changed the trajectory of the region.
In terms of trade, I think it would’ve been hard to check the British, but the Russians via Sagallo could’ve definitely been a constant thorn in the Empire’s side, which might’ve resulted in a colonial war of some sort.
It would have probably made no difference. Probably be a Russian analog to Equatorial Guinea; a linguistic oddity in an English and French sea.
@@ayodejiolowokere1076 Yeah, I think you're right. Maybe it would've even been taken by the British or French following war in Europe or something like that...if it even could've gotten off the ground to begin with.
@A N That's really interesting - I actually do remember looking into the Northern Sea Route and how Russia aims for year round shipping a while back - but when I was talking about disrupting regional trade I meant Imperial Russia, like what they were talking about in the video...not modern Russia.
also Ethiopia was a Orthodox Majority country and they had the same religion as Russia so I'd think that Ethiopia if they'd become a Russian colony their integration to Russian culture would be much easier than how French and Britain colonized the Africa
Loved the video. Can't wait for part 2!
Thank you so much; it should be out soon-ish! Just wrapping up a few other projects for the channel.
Your video just happened to appear on my home page. Very well put together and informative. Thank you!
Oh, thank you very much; glad you came across the channel! We’ll be wrapping up the rest of Sagallo’s story in part II.
Really interesting and entertaining video
The graphics just keep getting better, too!
Oh, thank you so much; you probably noticed, but we’re trying out some different stuff with our maps! 🗺
I didnt know about this at all! Nice video!
Definitely an overlooked chapter of Russian history and thank you!
“Huh, this video is really polished and pretty fun. This channel must be a pretty big one I somehow missed.”
*checks views on previous videos
“WHAT THE F”
Immediate subscription ❤
Oh, thank you so much 🙌; we've got a pretty big catalogue of content...and plenty more to come! And, honestly, some of our older videos definitely are personal favorites of mine: Minami-Torishima, Sarra Triangle, just to name a few.
I am not the biggest fan of the countryballs artstyle but the way you drew the balls in this video is, without a doubt, my favorite rendition of them. They just look so extremely cute !
Oh, thank you so much; actually, it's kind of interesting, but Sagallo was the last episode (so far) that we used countryballs in. We might still use them going forward, but at least right now, we've been shifting away in our newer content.
Haven’t seen you post in some time😂 great video man, I learned a lot.
Thanks man - be sure to circle back for part II! 🙌 You know...a few other people have actually said that as well; so, I’m wondering if they’re not getting notifications for Shorts, etc.
How does this channel have such great producton quality but so few subscribers? Deserves more.
Thank you - yeah, we've asked ourselves the same thing plenty of times before 😅, but the channel had a really nice uptick with this video!
@@GhostCountries ima subscribe right now you have cool content.
'When you think of Russia, a *country* you don't tend to think of is Africa.'
"On February 5, the Cossacks noticed a French squadron consisting of a cruiser and three gunboats. Ashinov received a letter from the messenger with an ultimatum, but not knowing French, he greeted the general, as he did not expect an attack from a country friendly to the Russian Empire. Artillery bombardment of Sagallo began. During the monstrous shelling, six people were killed: Daria Marchenko, Maria Martynova (who was in her last month of pregnancy), her six-year-old son Roman, the children of the "Cossack" Peter Rubtsov - four-year-old Matryona and two-year-old Stepan. Of the "Cossacks", against whom, in fact, this action was taken, only one Mikhail Shevchenko died. French shells destroyed all landings. A shirt was raised over Sagallo as a white flag - Ashinov and the settlers were arrested by the French." From Wikipedia.
I always was interested in the Russian colonies like Alaska, California (Fort Ross), Hokkaido and Ethiopia
So many ideas, alt history stories and so on
Fort Ross wasn't really a colony, being located on the spanish territory with the sole purpose of pressure against the british.
@@user-ez8le1rp3x I know
But still pretty interesting
@@OperatorMax1993 Not really, taking into account the fact that Russia never colonized anyone.
@@user-ez8le1rp3x what about Alaska lmao
Oh, there's definitely a lot to explore; doing research for this episode, we came across stuff relating to Russia's Madagascar expedition, Schäffer affair, etc.
0:28 they are not colonies, they are a part of the federation, and during the Russian Empire existance, had very good relations with the Russia people, even fighting as a voulnteer on the Russian side.
Didn’t Stalin kill like, 25% of Chechnya’s population? And I seriously doubt the Russian Empire had good relations with its minorities. Especially the Poles, Circassians, and the Jews.
@@ImperatorAugustus Did i say something about Stalin? No, i said during the Russian Empire and a Federation, and since i am liberal and pacifist, i 100% agree that Stalin is a bitch, aswell as Lenin and other dictators
as a little note, a short form for the central african republic is "centrafrique" so that might help to save time with any africa stuff in the future
loving this content though and i cant wait to see more!
Oh, thanks 👍 for letting me know; I usually abbreviate it as CAR when writing, but that doesn’t really translate so much when actually speaking / recording though. 😅
Pretty sure you’ll like Part II when it’s up!
@@GhostCountries i deffo will! do you have any reading on the russia-ethiopia union thing you mentioned in this btw? that really caught my interest
@@Griff00 What I came across was in "Imperial Russia's African Colony" by Patrick J. Rollins, but there also was a bit more general stuff regarding Upensky in "Russian Interests in Palestine, 1882-1914: A Study of Religious and Educational Enterprise."
I'm sure there's other sources; most, however, are either in Russian and/or not easy to access online, unfortunately.
C A R
@@GhostCountries thank you! :)
I really think you have a future on TH-cam!!! Please keep making content!!!!
Thank you, we’re definitely hoping for that as well! We’ve got plenty more content planned - including some different miniseries; so, no worries in that regard. 😉
never saw buryatia in eng-lang vids, thanks for including us.
Oh, we're glad you found the video + channel! Actually, I don't know exactly when, but I'm sure we'll come back to cover the history of the Buryat people. Maybe in a video about Tiele and/or Xiongnu?
Thanks for using my handmade africa continent flag in intro 😊
Простите а когда Чечня, Бурятия, Якутия были колониями?
Когда этот рэддитор высрался тогда и стали)
Брат, терпи. Сам в ах@е, но нас сделали колониями.
Cool vid!
Thanks!
Very cool video, had no idea
Glad you liked it! Honestly, I learned quite a few things myself when doing research for this video, like about Russia's secret Madagascar expedition. Maybe we'll cover that in a future video.
You should make a video like this about the colonies of Austria-Hungary, cause they actually had a port in South Africa and a part of Tianjin in China
In the 1720s the Russians sent an expedition to Madagascar but it returned after hearing the death of the tsar
I actually came across that while doing research for this episode. Haven't looked into it a whole lot actually, but I know the "Madagascar Expedition" was conducted in secret and Saint Petersburg's rational in going for the island was based off the colonial scramble over in India. Definitely think there's an episode in the making here!
Please more!
We've got plenty more planned; so, no worries there!
Gobsmacked to hear this
Wow this is interesting, i didn't know we had a colony
you hadn't had a colony
@@noahyehualashet6162 I'm confused, so we neve had a colony in Africa? Or how did this work
@@КГБКолДжорджКостанца Russia and Ethiopia had good relations because they were both orthodox Christian states. Yes Russia had a short-lived "settlement" in the horn of Africa but it's not a "colony".
@@noahyehualashet6162 that's great, but if we ever did anything bad, we're really sorry and hope for economic pardon, you are amazing
У нас нет колониальной традиции считать другие народы недоразвитыми и выпиливать их подчистую, колоний у нас никогда не было, но в западное ограниченное мышление такие концепты не помещаются, поэтому приходится изворачиваться.
Sagallo, had it succeeded, would've been an interesting alternate history. Could it have been a refuge for Russian Whites after the Russian Civil War?
I could actually see that; I mean, it's not so far outside the realm of possibility that Wrangel's Fleet, during the Evacuation of the Crimea, could've traveled from Turkey onward to Sagallo - that is, if Russia had been able to carve out its own colonial holding in Africa. You saw plenty of Whites make their way to other parts of the then collapsing Empire, like the Russian Far East, where you had the Provisional Priamurye Government (aka the last gasp of Imperial Russia); so, maybe something like that could've happened in Sagallo too!
@@GhostCountries An area smaller than a European state on the African continent declaring itself "The Russian Empire" would be an incredible fluke of history. Even more so than Tsarist Alaska.
really interesting video
i didnt know about the french stuff
Thank you; oh, and the French will play a pretty big role in part II!
YAY new video and first!
WOOT! 🏆
Really fascinating
Thank you! 🙌
@@GhostCountries Very welcome
Реальнее некуда. )))
Didn't know that Tatarstan and GAY is Russia's colonys
It's not LGBT. It's Jewish Autonomous Oblast.
@@Djigurda_Indiyskiy which was created by the soviet union btw (why did he call it a RUSSIAN EMPIRE COLONY?)
Cool, can you tell us more about the Russian colonies in southern guinea and hawaii
Oh, there's plenty more to explore regarding Russia's colonial ambitions. I definitely think we'll revisit the subject in future videos. Actually, it's pretty interesting that you mentioned Hawaii - we had another person bring it up too - because I was recently looking into Fort Elizabeth (Fort Elizavety) on the island of Kauai. That's definitely a much lesser-known chapter of Russian and/or Hawaiian history - not to mention some of the other locations!
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Part 2
Thanks man 🙌; part 2 will be coming out soon-ish! We've also got more content planned for Ethiopia + the Horn of Africa region.
The overwatch reference was cool to see
Putin: have you recorded it good we have now some issues with Djibouti
One of my ancestor help à lot for the french colonisation of Obock !
Oh, wow; that's really interesting!
Ayyy! I have that painting at 2:16.
Oh, that's really cool man! You might also have some of the other Cossack ones we used in our Crimea episodes too.
Subbed
Thank you! 🙌
@@GhostCountries Am I wrong or did your sub count double over night?
Great high quality video for such a small channel. my only dislike is the ghost frames talking. it takes me out of the history vibe and makes me feel like im watching a cuphead video
Thank you so much; yeah, back when we first started the channel, we felt we needed an avatar for certain parts of the video - especially when there's not a lot of material on the subject we're covering - but as we continue to grow, that might be something we change down the line.
Actually, since you mentioned Cuphead, thought it might be interesting to say that that and rubber hose animation in general was the original inspiration for the ghost's design.
@@GhostCountries Haha whats the chance! I wish you the best with the channel. Im subscribed :)
Ironic because Russia had not participated in the Berlin conference. Thanks for the video.
i think they participated in it tough i just found an article about it
0:33 why do you put this ghost drawing in your videos?
Cossack Hetmanate (Zaporozhian Host) was a Cossack state that formed out of the 1648 Cossack uprising against the Polish/Catholic domination within the Polish-Lithuanian Comonwealth. The title of 'hetman' is even older, but this Cossack leader, Achinov, lived in the 19. century and likely called himself 'hetman' because Cossack leaders did so in the past.
What or where is "Mass - Cow"? And Effrika?
remember be when u get famous
Nikola Ivanović was a Serb born in the north of Serbia, Varšica Čurug. Armed with military experience, he went with his comrades to the aid of Tsarist Russia, later he himself assimilated into a Russian, followed by his ideology. Serb border guards (shaikas) from the north of Serbia come and become Russians, join the Cossacks, etc... And during the time of Kievan Rus, Serbs in today's parts of Ukraine founded Slavonic Serbia and New Serbia from the 18th and 19th centuries. At the end of the 19th century, according to the population census, they declared themselves as Serbs, followed by Russians and Ukrainians. Both of you, please tell the real history 🙂🙂
This would be a amazing movie
It really would 😆; honestly, I've kind of thought the same with some of the other videos we've done too. Like, the Last Samurai was a great movie, but the real story behind the Republic of Ezo just is begging for a movie!
Something that seems to be really forgetten is the Confederação Brasílica (Brazilic Confederation), which was a short lived separatist State in some regions of portuguese Angola that were seeking to join the Empire of Brazil in a confederation. However, it only lived for less than a year, and not even the Empire of Brazil recognized it's existence (likely as a way to not start a war with Portugal, as the independence could end up in war)
That is really interesting; honestly, I had never even heard of the Brazilic Confederation before reading your comment. We actually did touch upon Angolan history in our video about Cabinda and we also have one about the Brazilian flag, but definitely will look into this bit of forgotten history some more.
@@GhostCountries Nice to hear that! I'm new to your channel, and I'm definetely going to watch these videos. A small heads up: there's barely anything about the Brazilic Confederation, even in portuguese. I searched for it on wikipedia and the only result is a page about it in portuguese only. There's a really good brazilian geography channel that talked about it in one of their videos, I could link it up here (however, it's only in portuguese, and as far as I'm aware, there aren't subtitles for the video)
Edit: sadly, I couldn't find the video I was looking for (only this one, but the content is pretty amateur, and altough not poorly made, still clearly only took information from Wikipedia lol th-cam.com/video/DoshVe-Vvss/w-d-xo.html)
@@braziliantsar Thanks for sending that my way and welcome to the channel! Yeah, that was pretty much the same when I searched around online, but I'll keep digging too. We've had a lot of content on South America and (more specifically) Brazil planned for quite a while. I'm hoping to get some of it out over the coming months - Republic of Acre, Riograndense Republic, etc.
I heard somewhere that Russia also had an attempt to colonize Madagascar
You’re right; there was a "Madagascar Expedition" in the early 1700s, but I don’t know too much details on it. Will have to look into that!
@@GhostCountries Speaking of which, many (if not most) Polish people heard that a certain Polish nobleman adventurer - Maurycy Beniowski became a "King of Madagascar" in the 1700s. This is not exactly true, starting with the fact that Maurice Benyovszky/Beňovský was more Hungarian-Slovak than Polish, but it is a very interesting story, even after you untangle all of the fiction and exaggerations from the facts (as much as it is possible). It involves the Polish Bar Confederation, a daring escape from imprisonment in Kamchatka, adventures on the high seas, and French colonial politics.
@@Artur_M. Thank you so much for bringing this up Artur; I actually never heard of Maurycy Beniowski before, but personally find stuff like this fascinating. In many ways, his adventures mirror that of Achinov in quite a few regards...the filibuster William Walker and William Augustus Bowles (aka Estajoca) also come to mind.
Anyway, I personally think Beniowski would probably make for a great reboot of our ghost biographies miniseries, which hasn't been revisited since Elizabeth Báthory.
@@GhostCountries Oh, for sure!
With Madagascar the same story as with Hawaii decided we decided it would not be profitable to keep a huge island in its composition and moreover around there were enemies Britain and France
Even right now Russia it's self is a continent....can you imagine having 12 timezones....where I live we have one time zone for three countries🤣🤣🤣🤣
French can imagine, they have a 12 timezones, we have only 11 in Russia.
@@SogoNotDrunk am saying for a single land mass....not colonies
@@eldios831 fair enough, but still :)
@@SogoNotDrunk still what...argue about land mass not the France in europe
what's the music background name
I saw this video and straight away my mind thought of the totally real nation of QItzikwaka since they share such similar history of Russian colonisation.
You know, I can't believe that I never heard of QItzikwaka until now! 😅
can you do a video on laz?
You mean like Lazica / Colchis? That would be really interesting. We have plans for a video in the region - maybe Abkhazia or Nagorno-Karabakh - in the near future, but definitely there's more to cover!
name of the song in the beginning?
-это поселение не было колонией России. Просто группа авантюристов русского происхождения.
-почему вы когда говорили о "колониях" показали мячики с флагами наших автономий?
Зачем эта подлая подмена понятий?!
Таков нарратив. Очень забавно смотреть на то как иностранцы вообще не понимают смысла существования совка и как следствие его устройство. Хотя чего дивиться, этого не понимают даже у нас.
То что у России нету колоний это наследование римского норратива, что у Римской Империи не было колонии
@@tofeziz в откуда вы это взяли?
@@tofeziz давай список русских колоний и признаки почему это колонии.
They always seem to take a lot of them in Vicky3.
Man, it's been on my list for so long, but I still have to get around to actually playing it! 😅
At 8:34 what's a "preist?"
So I guess my Victoria II run wasn't as ahistlrical as I thought
Not russians denying their colonialism in the comments
In the Western style, we deny it. We do not deny that we did it differently and it is not quite correct to call it colonization in English.
In fact, Egyptians conquered Sudan in 1820 though they had to withdrew in 1880 due to mahdists. They returned with English in 1890 regular army in 1890 (no mercenaries).
Bro, how are the balkans still here
good
Thanks!
0:01 - 0:03 not in my victoria II campaign
Thank you for educating people about the history of Russia, but there is a very important caveat, or rather two.
1. No "free Cossacks" (Kozak by definition is free), and those about whom Achinov spoke are complete fiction
2.The government absolutely did not believe him. He did not end up in prison only thanks to the extreme patriots who patronize him. And the government tried to isolate itself from all his missions as much as possible, passing them off as a personal initiative
Hey, thank you so much for commenting! Yeah, going off the information that's readily available, it definitely seems like Achinov was a sort of con man or, at the very least, fabricated a lot of his claims . For the second part you mentioned, we'll actually be going into more detail about the government's response in part II! Although, like you said, most we're definitely more than suspicious of Achinov, etc.
Wait..... we had a colony ? Really?
Well, almost; if Achinov had kept his act together it might've actually happened, but we'll be exploring that more in part 2! Also, nice SSRB pfp.
@@GhostCountries Without the knowledge, recognition or even support of Ru ssia. Some "colony".
imagine one black african gopnik speaking Russian today? 😍
Очень прикольно былобы
Russian Empire: my failed project
Chernorossiya is real???
You should do the Irish in Jamaica
I've only heard of them in passing; so, yeah, it would be really interesting to explore that in more detail. Oh, probably just worth mentioning, but we did touch briefly upon Polish Haitians in our video about what happened after the downfall of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.
@@GhostCountries As someone who had lived in the Caribbean you have no idea how weird ethnically this region is. No one even talks about the Black Dutch is Suriname or the British Barbadians
@@GhostCountries Irish in Jamaica is a real store
I actually was looking into it a bit more and there's definitely some similar vibes to a video we did on New Caledonia - especially regarding the "forced transplanting" of people from Ireland.
I don't know exactly when, but yeah, I can say we'll definitely be doing a video about this!
@@GhostCountries If you want more ammunition for that video look for the Black Irish of Monsterrat , Jamaica became a British colony BECAUSE of Cromwell not the original Royal Family its one of the most unspoken events in history!
Так то у России вообще небыло колоний
Почти были первой колонией могли стать гавайи ачинов решил зачем они нам и уплыли с гавайи а местные жители их запомнили как друзей
@@hendanachi.official это то понятно, просто автор считает, что мы были такой же колониальной державой как Великобритания или Франция, но это не так мы были намного талантливее в освоение земель чем европейцы.
@@hm-ub7tr у него мышление не приспособлено, он не понимает что так можно
God, save the Russia
Чому ти пишеш українською Московія? І да чому ти ненавидиш причоски що вони тобі зробля 😂
@@Cookie66657 зачем ты говоришь на мертвом языке? Я не понимаю
@@H3jime се він мертвий ? 45 млн людей говорят на ньому і да всрись пажалуста за Московію і не пладись
@@Cookie66657 не переживай,дружище,скоро вы все будете говорить на русском😉😉
@@H3jime на якому ответлениє русскогої мови ? Беларускього Українського чи Московського ответления ? Бояйови 😂 комари прилетіли к тебе ?
th-cam.com/video/Jk69HdJaLgc/w-d-xo.html
Це для тебе
He forgot that russia had a colony in the north west of North America called russian Alaska
My god, 2k subscribers has to be a joke. This video is easily the quality of for example RealLifeLore.
Oh, thank you so much; we definitely pour a lot into researching and making our videos; so, it's always good to hear the effort is worth it! This video has given the channel a much needed spike (in terms of views and subs) and here's hoping more is to come.
Мали, Буркина-Фасо, Центральная Африка, Украина... В какие дебри приносит "Музыкантов"😆
0:30 didn't even know that Jewish Autonomous Oblst' (the rainbow one) wasn't created by Stalin (in reality) but Nikolay II. It's force me to believe that channel information are really true %))
У России колоний никогда не было. В том числе колониями нельзя назвать ни одно постсоветское государство или республику в составе РФ. Куда бы Россия не приходила, она строила там города, повышала уровень образования, разрешала местные национальные конфликты. А после колониальных экспериментов Европейских стран в Африке только разруха, нищета и постоянная резня.
Колонии бывают разного типа. В Р.И. колониальными поселениями можно назвать всё освоение девственных территорий Урала, Сибири, Ц.Азии., что очень похоже на колонизацию Америки, куда приплывали евраейцы и всё строили для себя с нуля и жили, занимаясь сель.хоз. С другой стороны есть колонии типа Б.Индии и Ф.Индокитая, где были своего рода общества, которые из за своей примитивности можно контролировать небольшмм контингентом из офицеров/чиновников и давить из него все соки, переправляя их в метрополию.
То что было в Совке - это колония наоборот. Россия, как гос-во перестало существовать, а к образованию под названием Рсфср подвели провода и начали доить для накачки ресурсами новых национальных сатрапий, в свою очередь русские были объявлены гонимым дерьмом на территории всего совка и не были удостоены чести иметь своей республики даже после обеспечения большевикам победы во В.М.В.
@@saintman9460 колонии это когда рубишь руки второсортным чернокожим вкалывающим на тебя, а на вырученные космические состояния содержишь любовницу. Оцэ Европа!
@@saintman9460 ох уж эти девственные территории Америки, особенно девственные были индейцы, пока их всех в рабство не забрали конкистадоры.
@@deeeeeeeeeeeeeeee нет, это плантации. Зачем рубить руки своей собственности?
Ancient Strelkov
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Every self respecting power needs at least a token sliver of territory.
Interesting subject, but that incessant music is so off-putting it made the video unlistenable.
And europe is Usa colony donr t worry this will change
Real story:
Achinoff was born in ex-slaves family. He don't be really cossack , he was be a scammer
Yeah, definitely seems that way. We'll be exploring how the whole Sagallo venture fell apart in part II, which should be out soon-ish.
Точнее в семье "крепостных крестьян" и он скорее был не мошенником, а "авантюристом". Всё же, он имел много шансов нажить себе состояние, однако вместо этого потратил множество ресурсов на создание своей колонии. Кроме того, что характеризует его больше, как авантюриста, так это то, что его поездки были не безуспешными. Из Африки он привёз множество древних рукописей, которых тогда ещё было очень мало в исторических архивах Российской Империи, кроме того он и/или при его содействии был создан русско-соггальский словарь.
@@GhostCountries It's strange that you somehow try to pass off this guy's solo adventure, as an official colonial representative of the Russ empire. By that token me buying a bunch of houses in France immediately makes it an official Norwegian colony.
There were Russia's African colonies in Central Asia, the Caucasus, Eastern Europe, the Baltic.
Explain pls, dont inderstand
@@saintman9460 Russia did not need to have colonies in Africa. The Caucasus, Central Asia and etc. were Russia's colonies. I wanted to say that Russian colonialism has been underestimated
@@papunanozadze1391I will say how the Russian in the Caucasus was constantly not calm the locals began to fight with each other example of the war in Karabakh 2020 and Russia had to calm Azerbaijan and Armenia by leading peacekeepers and the Azerbaijanis are now trying as possible to provoke the Russian military to start using weapons then they will begin to accuse the Russians that they started everything.
WTF Portugal?
Xachinov was Georgian that's theory
Oh, that's actually interesting. I'll definitely continue to dig more into his background, but unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be too much online, at least in English language sources.
@@GhostCountries , sad maybe that's why books are good, or try different language sources
Siberia is so colonized that ~80% in most regions are Russian. And where this is not the case, it is often a subsidized region, where almost everthing relies on money from the federal budget rather than the local one. What is the conditional difference in rights between a resident of Crimea, Komi and the Moscow Region (not to be confused with Moscow)? Not with anything.
If Sahara were colonized by the French, would you be surprised that it would be almost entirely populated by the French?
RUSSIA NEVER HAD COLONIES IN AFRICA , AFRICA WAS DIVIDED BY FRENCH AND ENGLISH.
True but not because they were nice but because they were not able to do it. you silly dingus.
Germany, Netherlands & possibly Spain or Portugal
@@suecollins8199Portugal, Spain and Belgium were the first to colonise Africa so idk what the original commenter is on about 🤷♂️
@@fireironthesecond2909 thanks for confirming! It has been a very long time since my school days studying geography/ history. 😊
@A N Yeah but they didn't do that out of kindness but because it weakened the empires and don't forget that Russia and later the soviet union still colonised eastern Europe and central Asia and Siberia, just because there empire wasn't in Africa or southeast Asia doesn't mean that it wasn't an empire, they still conquered and exploited and activley russified different people.
Шизотерический текст рэддиторского байстрюка. Кхаркх-тьху!