Brother man I have seen you grow softball size onions. This is a great way of showing that you’re not always going to have a good year every year. But you learn from it.
I've always let 2 or 3 bolt and collect the seeds. As far as cutting, it works great for bunching onions. If they bolt then after you collect the seeds , dehydrate the onions for soups. Nothing goes to waste. Happy growing! BTW, plant the seeds in fall and enjoy next year.
I am in 9b as well Travis here in East Texas I bought some of your Louisiana Shallots and they have done great but almost everyone has flowered. They taste great and I have been planting the numbs for about a month And I leave just a bit sticking out and they come back in no time. I am really well pleased with them and they are truly perennial. When you can uses the onion then get ten more from it you are really giving yourself a feed crop.
I feel the same way about the Louisiana Evergreen Shallots I bought from him. They are awesome. I'm in zone 9a Texas. This is my first time growing bunching onions. Mine are also going to seed. Do you leave your bunching onions in the ground to grow all year? Thanks 😊
With those field stakes and labels, I have found that my Brother label maker works awesome for years. I use black on white label. Holds up better than Sharpies in the sun. And peel off easily to relabel if I change up varieties.
Thanks so much for the video! I was one of those who had asked about what to do when the LA evergreen shallots start flowering, so I’m so appreciative for the advice @lazy dog farm!
Thanks for the info, Travis. My Old Fashioned multiplying onions (which are like the La. Shallots) are blooming like crazy. I have been cutting the flower stem off and will continue to do so. Also good to know about planting the “nubs.” I will be doing that too. I get so much good information from your channel: Thanks again.
I’m so glad you addressed the evergreen shallots. All of mine are going to seed and I didn’t know what to do either. Plus, they have multiplied like crazy. I’m 🤔 thinking: divide and plant a few in all of my raised beds for pest control. Thanks Travis! I’ve learned a lot from you!
Well, good to know I have been doing the right thing. My Louisiana Evergreen Shallots have all been sending up flower shoots and I have been pinching them off (I do not cut all the foliage off as that seems counter productive). The little flower shoots I put in water and leave on the counter and I use them within a few days whenever I want green onions in anything. I think if I was cutting off the bottoms and replanting, I would not cover them completely but leave the tip out of the soil. I am not sure this would make a difference but it is how people grow onions from store bought green onions.
The "trick" of cutting the top off the perennial onion and replanting the roots applies to all onions, including bulbing onions. On a bulbing onion, just cut the root end off, either fresh or after drying, eat the bulb and plant the roots. You only need about 0.5 inch. If the onion is dry from storage, soak the roots in water first to reactivate them.
@@Livingsamsara I grow a mix of onions started from both seed and root cuttings. My largest onion plants, and consequently largest bulbs, tend to come from onions started from root cuttings because they reach maturity much sooner, and have longer to grow in my 9b zone during the winter and spring.
I started growing onions from seed and have no problems with them putting on seed heads. If I leave them, they bloom the second year and I can save seeds. The tiny bulbs and onion plants are already 1 year old and are more likely to bloom.
Real good information. I'm one of those that got some of the evergreens last year. I'll be using this info. For anyone that got some evergreens, they overwintered well in the ground here in zone 7a S. Cumberland Plateau TN.
I got some of those shallots from you last fall (Zone 7b -- northern AL). They are awesome. I have yet to get any bulbs and look forward to trying them this summer. However, they multiply like mad, the tops grow back faster than most bunching onions I have used, better with cold than some other bunching onions, and taste amazing. My wife uses tons of bunching onion tops for Korean seafood pancakes and other Korean food. I had a whole 8x4 bed devoted to bunching onions that I had to almost replant half every year because the taste would go out or they would stop growing back fast enough. I started a new bed with these and they have multiplied out to take over about 1/4 of it already (one order from you and I divided them once). I figured once these multiple out to the whole bed, I won't have to have that other bed anymore for bunching onions and will save me a lot of time replanting them. Mine also tired to flower, but I just plucked them off --- that is always what I do with bunching onions so I didn't think these would behave much differently. They really love water and high nitrogen!
I live in the Florida Panhandle and I planted the Egyptian walking onions in September of last year and they are now huge like your Welsh onions. They have not started making seed heads yet. I am amazed at how big they are. I planted my bulbing onions in January and they are growing really slow, so far they have not gone to seed, but they do not look as good as they have in years past.
I used to have a strain of multiplying onions that were great. I ate them fresh until they went to seed in early summer. When they flowered, but before the seeds opened up, I pulled them and hung them in the shed until September, and then set the bulbs out again. That gave us onions through the winter again. Sadly, I lost them one year and haven't been able to find them since.
I got a start of "walking onions" from a friend. I let the seed hesd grow and the bulbs fall to the ground. Every one of those bulbs from the seed head grew a new plant. So I took the seed heads and broke the bulbs up all along the row. In 2 years time I had a row of onions that was 30 feet long.
I always enjoy your videos! I have a gopher that has taken out two onion bulbs, a garlic bulb, a parsley plant, a cilantro plant, and a tomato plant so far. I have two Gopher Hawk traps set up today to eradicate this pest!!!
The White Welsh, I've been growing them three seasons now. If I knew how to upload a pic... I would, but I cut the tops and eat 'em. They grow back with much vigor and spread well.
Last year I had some of my Walla Walla onions flower, never had them flower before that. They were definitely stronger tasting than the ones that didn't flower, which I actually liked for cooking. I have never grown perennial onions, are they strong or mild? I will have to give them a go.
So glad I wasn't screwing up by cutting the seed heads off my Louisiana shallots!LOL! I've got some Egyptian walkers that made a sort-of seed head looking thing but it split open and multiple new stalks started growing out of it...at least a foot off the ground! My elephant garlic's main stem is a couple feet tall, but, recently, multiple new shoots started growing out of the main stem, up top. What's that all about? Zone 8B
Try the nub thing it works great. I have done it even with store bought green onions and it works for them as well. But with these you soon get ten more onions! BTW, the two inches above the nub you leave for planting, is great in soups and stews like Leeks. They really cook up tender. I never used them like that before.
Man, I’m struggling with my bulbing onions this year too, Trav! Very, very wet, and I’m worried! I’m interested to follow along on some of your “experimentation!”
My Chianti onions are bolting . About 10-25 so far but I have 300 + so fingers crossed more don’t follow . Last two years none did . They’re not bulbing good either .
Onions going to seed is hit or miss for me. Last year no seed heads, the year before almost every plant bolted. I did save those seeds and what grew was a bizarre mix of huge bunching onions with a mild garlicy taste. I had onions, leeks and elephant garlic all in the same bed when they went to seed so they probably cross pollinated.
I beleive if using salt based nutrients or anything that is mass produces for that matter can build up salts and throw off your ph levels in soil. Take 1 potatoe per 5 gallon water and put in in microwave and soften them then mash them in a compost tea bag and get some leaf mold and let it sit for 3 days or maybe faster if its hot outsude. It will bubble real nice . Make sure add al least a handful of leaf mold per 10 gallon of water it will make it produce faster. Get leaf mold undneath any big tree with some moisture and leaves under it. Take the bottom layer with the white looking mold. Thats your organisms that are going fic your ph issues. Then put some comfrey or nettle weeds in some water with leaf old and let it sit for few days to week afterwards and feed it to. Your onions will rebound ! Im just a hillbilly from wv but this practice i speak of has been arpund longer than any other garden techniques in the world!
I am having a few onions beginning to flower. I am trying several new varieties and it looks like it may not a good onion year. A few weeks ago we had a hail storm with small hail which pelted my onions. take care...
Travis, when you say day length triggers bulbing, are you referring to total day length or direct sun on your onions? Mine are shaded part of the time (Morning and evening).
Hi, not many people know what the biggest problem is for bolting unions. The problem is the weather . Unions should form a bulp the first year ,and flower the second year . If, for example the union sets are stored at a too cold temperature during the winter it will tricker the union in bolting . So we have to fool the union sets by storing the tiny bulps at the right temperature so that the unions still believe that it's the first year 😂 . Ireland
Something I noticed today…one of my seed started onions started to form a seed head. I removed it and marked the plant. The onions have finally started to bulb, so I checked that one onion. It had ants all over the bulb itself. No other onions that I looked at had any bugs around them. Just an interesting observation.
Oh my gosh. Travis I thought I was going to have the best onions I have ever grown this year. The stalks are 1 -1.5 inch in diameter. The leaves are over waist tall and they are bolting. I don’t think there’s one out there that’s even big as tennis ball. Makes me sick. It’s across all three varieties. Chianti, Georgia boys and Early whites. We have had an unusually warm late winter and early spring. I guess that’s what did it. I have or maybe I should say had a buyer for them. Not sure. Probably not worth much now.
Has anyone else noticed that one of the biggest onion plant farms in TX has been selling onion plants for the last 3 years that have been infected with something called "Yellows"? It has cut my production down by 3/4s.
Green onions is a general term that could be used to describe bunching onions, immature bulbing onions, or some type of perennial onion. The Louisiana Evergreen Shallots are a specific variety of perennial onion that can be used to harvest green onions.
My onions aren’t bulbing at all. Why not? I did nothing different than I always do! Climate? I ordered short day onions sampler from Dixondale farms )Texas. Received Dec 4th 2023 and planted soon after.
@LAnn-en1vg the ones from seed I planted in September is from botanical interest sweet onion they haven't seed yet, but the ones I got from lowes to try in February where bundles of like 60 plants one is bolting can't remember the name its a sweet onion also.
Jeff from East Tennessee!! Got 2 little short rolls of short day onions. The seed was from Ferrymore!! Cheap!! A Texas grano and some kind of Big red onion! A few are trying to flower but most are starting to bulb. First time growing bulbing onions. The plants look good and they are big!!! If I can get any size onions out of these then I’m growing a ton of short day onions this fall!! I got a bunch of good quality seed!! Some that you grow Travis!! Also, I got 2 rolls of Intermediate day onions growing!! Kind of want to compare how both of these onions grow here!! These onions have been planted for a little over two weeks!! The plants are big but may be a little behind on getting them into the ground!! All new to me!!
We'll have more of the LA shallots on our site later this year. All those others varieties we have were acquired from a bunch of different places online. Bought some on Etsy. I just did an exhaustive search for perennial onions and bought one of everything I could find.
Hey Travis. Can I have your email? I just pulled 2 of my onions and I am so puzzled. Crazily mutated and I'm wondering if you've ever seen anything like it. I have one that has like 30 tops and then another the tops grew inside the bulb
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I learn more from Travis then any other Gardening channel.
I do agree with you but I also like David the good a lot too
Absolutely!
I am a long time subscriber and I feel the same way. Sometimes it's just good to know not to fret about what's going on in the garden.
I’ve been replanting my onion bottoms for years! All of my green onions came from grocery store green onions.
Brother man I have seen you grow softball size onions. This is a great way of showing that you’re not always going to have a good year every year. But you learn from it.
I cut my tops every other week & use them as green onions. My suggestion.
I keep a planter on the back porch that I call my onion nursery. I've been replanting all my leek and onion roots for years.
I've always let 2 or 3 bolt and collect the seeds. As far as cutting, it works great for bunching onions. If they bolt then after you collect the seeds , dehydrate the onions for soups. Nothing goes to waste. Happy growing! BTW, plant the seeds in fall and enjoy next year.
Leeks will also grow back if you leave the root in the soil.
I am in 9b as well Travis here in East Texas I bought some of your Louisiana Shallots and they have done great but almost everyone has flowered. They taste great and I have been planting the numbs for about a month And I leave just a bit sticking out and they come back in no time. I am really well pleased with them and they are truly perennial. When you can uses the onion then get ten more from it you are really giving yourself a feed crop.
I feel the same way about the Louisiana Evergreen Shallots I bought from him. They are awesome. I'm in zone 9a Texas. This is my first time growing bunching onions. Mine are also going to seed. Do you leave your bunching onions in the ground to grow all year? Thanks 😊
Cool tip re the perennial onion plant! I enjoy the scientific name of "onion nubs" by the way. 😆
With those field stakes and labels, I have found that my Brother label maker works awesome for years. I use black on white label. Holds up better than Sharpies in the sun. And peel off easily to relabel if I change up varieties.
Lots of varieties! Wow
Great info Travis. Going to cut and replant my Louisiana evergreens. Pulled a bunch with 37 pants in it
Man, the Georgia Boy seeds I got from are killing it. Already bulbing and looking good!
The onions I’m growing now are the best I have ever grown and it’s because of what I’ve learned from Travis.
Thanks so much for the video! I was one of those who had asked about what to do when the LA evergreen shallots start flowering, so I’m so appreciative for the advice @lazy dog farm!
Thanks for the info, Travis. My Old Fashioned multiplying onions (which are like the La. Shallots) are blooming like crazy. I have been cutting the flower stem off and will continue to do so. Also good to know about planting the “nubs.” I will be doing that too. I get so much good information from your channel: Thanks again.
Yeah Mine too. I am going to see what happens with some of the blooms, they look like tiny onions inside the bloom. They may be easy to plant.
One of the most realistic perspective approaches to growing. TY.
Thank you, im in SE Georgia, & mine are bolting.
I’m so glad you addressed the evergreen shallots. All of mine are going to seed and I didn’t know what to do either. Plus, they have multiplied like crazy. I’m 🤔 thinking: divide and plant a few in all of my raised beds for pest control. Thanks Travis! I’ve learned a lot from you!
Well, good to know I have been doing the right thing. My Louisiana Evergreen Shallots have all been sending up flower shoots and I have been pinching them off (I do not cut all the foliage off as that seems counter productive). The little flower shoots I put in water and leave on the counter and I use them within a few days whenever I want green onions in anything. I think if I was cutting off the bottoms and replanting, I would not cover them completely but leave the tip out of the soil. I am not sure this would make a difference but it is how people grow onions from store bought green onions.
The "trick" of cutting the top off the perennial onion and replanting the roots applies to all onions, including bulbing onions. On a bulbing onion, just cut the root end off, either fresh or after drying, eat the bulb and plant the roots. You only need about 0.5 inch. If the onion is dry from storage, soak the roots in water first to reactivate them.
I told my friend to do that 2 years ago and now he does it all the time!
@@Livingsamsara I grow a mix of onions started from both seed and root cuttings. My largest onion plants, and consequently largest bulbs, tend to come from onions started from root cuttings because they reach maturity much sooner, and have longer to grow in my 9b zone during the winter and spring.
Great video, thanks for sharing
I started growing onions from seed and have no problems with them putting on seed heads. If I leave them, they bloom the second year and I can save seeds. The tiny bulbs and onion plants are already 1 year old and are more likely to bloom.
Real good information. I'm one of those that got some of the evergreens last year. I'll be using this info. For anyone that got some evergreens, they overwintered well in the ground here in zone 7a S. Cumberland Plateau TN.
My Louisiana Evergreen have seed heads forming.
I got some of those shallots from you last fall (Zone 7b -- northern AL). They are awesome. I have yet to get any bulbs and look forward to trying them this summer. However, they multiply like mad, the tops grow back faster than most bunching onions I have used, better with cold than some other bunching onions, and taste amazing. My wife uses tons of bunching onion tops for Korean seafood pancakes and other Korean food. I had a whole 8x4 bed devoted to bunching onions that I had to almost replant half every year because the taste would go out or they would stop growing back fast enough. I started a new bed with these and they have multiplied out to take over about 1/4 of it already (one order from you and I divided them once). I figured once these multiple out to the whole bed, I won't have to have that other bed anymore for bunching onions and will save me a lot of time replanting them. Mine also tired to flower, but I just plucked them off --- that is always what I do with bunching onions so I didn't think these would behave much differently. They really love water and high nitrogen!
I live in the Florida Panhandle and I planted the Egyptian walking onions in September of last year and they are now huge like your Welsh onions. They have not started making seed heads yet. I am amazed at how big they are. I planted my bulbing onions in January and they are growing really slow, so far they have not gone to seed, but they do not look as good as they have in years past.
I used to have a strain of multiplying onions that were great. I ate them fresh until they went to seed in early summer. When they flowered, but before the seeds opened up, I pulled them and hung them in the shed until September, and then set the bulbs out again. That gave us onions through the winter again. Sadly, I lost them one year and haven't been able to find them since.
Lol... I have a whole bunch of these that started growing in my backyard... thanks for the tips much appreciated
I got a start of "walking onions" from a friend. I let the seed hesd grow and the bulbs fall to the ground. Every one of those bulbs from the seed head grew a new plant. So I took the seed heads and broke the bulbs up all along the row. In 2 years time I had a row of onions that was 30 feet long.
up north here a late freeze will cause a lot more of our onions go to seed.
I always enjoy your videos! I have a gopher that has taken out two onion bulbs, a garlic bulb, a parsley plant, a cilantro plant, and a tomato plant so far. I have two Gopher Hawk traps set up today to eradicate this pest!!!
Yep mine looks the same I’m over here in Gulfport,MS
I have grown welsh bouncing onion from seed they did ok left the seeds in the flower until they dried out.
The White Welsh, I've been growing them three seasons now. If I knew how to upload a pic... I would, but I cut the tops and eat 'em. They grow back with much vigor and spread well.
I feed them once month with a mixture of fish emulsion concentrate (5 tbls) and 5 tbls liquid iron to 2 1/2 gallons of water.
They grow massive!
Awesome thanks
Last year I had some of my Walla Walla onions flower, never had them flower before that. They were definitely stronger tasting than the ones that didn't flower, which I actually liked for cooking. I have never grown perennial onions, are they strong or mild? I will have to give them a go.
So glad I wasn't screwing up by cutting the seed heads off my Louisiana shallots!LOL! I've got some Egyptian walkers that made a sort-of seed head looking thing but it split open and multiple new stalks started growing out of it...at least a foot off the ground! My elephant garlic's main stem is a couple feet tall, but, recently, multiple new shoots started growing out of the main stem, up top. What's that all about? Zone 8B
My Louisiana Evergreen Shallots have been flowering for a few weeks, I wasn’t sure what to do either, lol,
Try the nub thing it works great. I have done it even with store bought green onions and it works for them as well. But with these you soon get ten more onions! BTW, the two inches above the nub you leave for planting, is great in soups and stews like Leeks. They really cook up tender. I never used them like that before.
Try using the little flowers in salads or eggs.
@@Forevertrue I think I will try that. I have also done it with store bought green onions and have had success with that method.
Man, I’m struggling with my bulbing onions this year too, Trav! Very, very wet, and I’m worried! I’m interested to follow along on some of your “experimentation!”
I have cutting my nubs and they regrow quite well , but I find that when you split them and replant they tend to be bigger.
My Chianti onions are bolting . About 10-25 so far but I have 300 + so fingers crossed more don’t follow . Last two years none did . They’re not bulbing good either .
Onions going to seed is hit or miss for me. Last year no seed heads, the year before almost every plant bolted. I did save those seeds and what grew was a bizarre mix of huge bunching onions with a mild garlicy taste. I had onions, leeks and elephant garlic all in the same bed when they went to seed so they probably cross pollinated.
I beleive if using salt based nutrients or anything that is mass produces for that matter can build up salts and throw off your ph levels in soil. Take 1 potatoe per 5 gallon water and put in in microwave and soften them then mash them in a compost tea bag and get some leaf mold and let it sit for 3 days or maybe faster if its hot outsude. It will bubble real nice . Make sure add al least a handful of leaf mold per 10 gallon of water it will make it produce faster. Get leaf mold undneath any big tree with some moisture and leaves under it. Take the bottom layer with the white looking mold. Thats your organisms that are going fic your ph issues. Then put some comfrey or nettle weeds in some water with leaf old and let it sit for few days to week afterwards and feed it to. Your onions will rebound ! Im just a hillbilly from wv but this practice i speak of has been arpund longer than any other garden techniques in the world!
I pull mine when they flower and lay them out on racks to dry. Then store in a cool place and plant the bulbs in July.
So what happened to your onions this year? Any insights & things we should avoid?? Thanks - you da best!!
I would try to make hoops around the onions to protect from environmental stuff from the sky. Could try an experiment to see if it works.
I am having a few onions beginning to flower. I am trying several new varieties and it looks like it may not a good onion year. A few weeks ago we had a hail storm with small hail which pelted my onions. take care...
Travis, when you say day length triggers bulbing, are you referring to total day length or direct sun on your onions? Mine are shaded part of the time (Morning and evening).
Pretty sure it's total day length, although shade could probably influence that somewhat and delay bulbing.
Hi, not many people know what the biggest problem is for bolting unions. The problem is the weather . Unions should form a bulp the first year ,and flower the second year . If, for example the union sets are stored at a too cold temperature during the winter it will tricker the union in bolting . So we have to fool the union sets by storing the tiny bulps at the right temperature so that the unions still believe that it's the first year 😂 . Ireland
Had a problem with voles eating my Candy intermediate day onions. Have applied vole repellant
Something I noticed today…one of my seed started onions started to form a seed head. I removed it and marked the plant. The onions have finally started to bulb, so I checked that one onion. It had ants all over the bulb itself. No other onions that I looked at had any bugs around them. Just an interesting observation.
Our onions have not very well this yr .
Oh my gosh. Travis I thought I was going to have the best onions I have ever grown this year. The stalks are 1 -1.5 inch in diameter. The leaves are over waist tall and they are bolting. I don’t think there’s one out there that’s even big as tennis ball. Makes me sick. It’s across all three varieties. Chianti, Georgia boys and Early whites. We have had an unusually warm late winter and early spring. I guess that’s what did it. I have or maybe I should say had a buyer for them. Not sure. Probably not worth much now.
In the end I ask myself What did I learn and Honestly not much.. I've decided to harvest the seeds and see what happens next year.
Everyone from Canada on down is having a bad onion year. They are bolting all over the place.
Update from Canada: there's still a foot of snow on my garden. 🫠
Onion plant is a good solution to solve curry plant insecticide and fungicide problems. ☺️
Still had a good looking bulb and you say it’s a bad year. Man you have been spoiled by those massive onions you grow.😂
What should you do if the bunching onions, scallions, go to flower?
Has anyone else noticed that one of the biggest onion plant farms in TX has been selling onion plants for the last 3 years that have been infected with something called "Yellows"? It has cut my production down by 3/4s.
That nub thing works for Garlic too.
Does it matter if the onion tops start to fold over
Nah just let them grow.
whats the difference between those perenial Louisianna onions and green onions?
Green onions is a general term that could be used to describe bunching onions, immature bulbing onions, or some type of perennial onion. The Louisiana Evergreen Shallots are a specific variety of perennial onion that can be used to harvest green onions.
Did you start the onions from seed or sets?
The bulbing onions, we always start from seed. The evergreen shallots are planted from the little bulbs that should form later this year.
Let the seed heads dry out and then sow them again
Your bulbing onions look better than mine...😢😢
My onions aren’t bulbing at all. Why not? I did nothing different than I always do! Climate? I ordered short day onions sampler from Dixondale farms )Texas. Received Dec 4th 2023 and planted soon after.
I'm only 20 min from Trav my onions not bulbing today I have one that is started to flower. I may have test my soil how much Aluminum in my soil.
@@hardstylzz5024 maybe it’s a supplier issue from last summers drought and heat?
@LAnn-en1vg the ones from seed I planted in September is from botanical interest sweet onion they haven't seed yet, but the ones I got from lowes to try in February where bundles of like 60 plants one is bolting can't remember the name its a sweet onion also.
Bought some Ferry Morse sweet onion Grand seed I'll try that this September.
Jeff from East Tennessee!! Got 2 little short rolls of short day onions. The seed was from Ferrymore!! Cheap!! A Texas grano and some kind of Big red onion! A few are trying to flower but most are starting to bulb. First time growing bulbing onions. The plants look good and they are big!!! If I can get any size onions out of these then I’m growing a ton of short day onions this fall!! I got a bunch of good quality seed!! Some that you grow Travis!!
Also, I got 2 rolls of Intermediate day onions growing!! Kind of want to compare how both of these onions grow here!! These onions have been planted for a little over two weeks!! The plants are big but may be a little behind on getting them into the ground!! All new to me!!
Where to buy the onions the potatoe onions the welch onions the loisiana shallots
We'll have more of the LA shallots on our site later this year. All those others varieties we have were acquired from a bunch of different places online. Bought some on Etsy. I just did an exhaustive search for perennial onions and bought one of everything I could find.
Thanks Travis
Hey Travis. Can I have your email? I just pulled 2 of my onions and I am so puzzled. Crazily mutated and I'm wondering if you've ever seen anything like it. I have one that has like 30 tops and then another the tops grew inside the bulb
Chemical Trails what are they spraying on us
Your bulbing onions are looking rough. Certainly nothing like you have had in years past.
Lmao great video. So interesting