actually there used to be a really long animation for the spy taking out his knife and doing things just like you suggested but it was removed because of that exact reason. here is a video. th-cam.com/video/iPZjDTDwJIs/w-d-xo.html
In the Team Fortress 2 beta (I think) there's a video on it somewhere, the spy was going to have an animation to get to reverse grip, however, valve removed because they thought it was too "distracting"
Big Flips hey your that guy in this video :D Small world...always good to see fellow flippers keeping the culture alive. Also no music in slowmo...distracting...very good otherwise
remember the point of this trick isnt to successfully complete the trick, its to gain enough momentum with your knife to fling out of your hand and with enough luck kill the enemy
spy-Yes time to shine Spy-*tries to do the trick but keeps failing* enemy spy-here *does it for him* spy-thanks enemy spy- no problem spy-W A I T A S E C O N D
He does that before he flips it into the stab motion at the end of the video. Anyway, it turns out I was wrong about the second motion where he flips the knife to stabbing posture he just switches the grip.
reason why spy doesnt do that is the knife raises up faster than doing the cool trick, and you really dont want to make a slow move in tf2 cuz its a fast paced game
The move IS way cooler but would take longer, and the animation needs to be accurate to when the spy can back stab, its also why his unsheath animation when you swap to the knife is pretty simple compared to the original knife trick he did
To anyone having trouble, I tried hovering my index finger directly above the part that I had it on originally. You also have to wait for both handles to point straight up to pull your finger out. Basically just watch the slow motion again
Great tutorial man, really appreciate all the detailing, like how after every stage in the trick you revert back to the start of the trick and talk through every motion in order again. Genuinely really helpfull.
Fun fact; Spy actually did originally have a trick animation before his actual backstab "stance", however it was cut from the game for practicality reasons. You can see it in the pre-launch trailer, alongside Scout's cut Nailgun primary, Medic's syringe, and Demoman's dynamite bundle. The more you know.
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This is a pretty simple yet cool trick. I pretty much have it down in 5 minutes and I haven’t flipped or even tried to learn in a 2 years. But I am on a new knife I got today... my only problem is removing my index finger at the end
Great video! Interestingly enough, this is how Spy was originally going to get into position to backstab targets. The animation was too long, however, so it was scrapped and replaced with the boring, yet quicker motion.
try doing double rollover to backhand twirl to helix (helix includes this move, i think) then to an icepick aerial (might stab fingers due to blade momentum, dont actually do this)
The first time i see this video i was like "Dude, that's impossible", then after a several times i try, i don't know why i can do this move, and i was like, "What was that?"🤣🤣
yeah really focus on starting low and ending high. that will give you the most momentum. if you are really stuck just skip it and learn some other stuff and come back. some times you just need more time flipping to get more familiar with the knife
Hey BIG FLIPS just wanted to thank you for the amazingly helpful tutorials. It felt so good when I did my first y2k. Keep the excellent content comin'!
Because I good around so much with the Bali song I was able to get it as soon as you showed the grip thanks for being a clear teacher it has made this so much fun
I think the only reason there isn’t the reverse index animation is because backstabs don’t need a raising animation to initiate, which is why chain stabs exist, and also why the Conniver’s Kunai is a basic murder health kit
Jason Griffin I also ran into this problem and usually ended up holding the knife upside-down by the safe handle with my fingers perpendicular to the knife. I needed my fingers (especially my index finger) to be parallel to the knife so the bite handle could swing up. I found a trick to removing the index finger out on time by: 1)holding lower on the handle with last 3 fingers and keeping the index finger stretched straight and at a 45° angle facing compared to Big Flips 90° index finger and higher grip w/ last 3 fingers at 1:52. 2) Then throw the bite handle with blade in tow over the stretched index finger and surprisingly it will still roll over and pop out of the way naturally and you'll catch the handles with the web of your thumb/index.
I almost gave up when I first tried it and not pushing it all at once worked for me I think the stress builds up inside you if you try it too long which can lead to not focusing or shakey hands so just take it slow
my other fingers constantly try and stop the second leg right before catching it at the end, and i mean i literally think to move them out of the way for the spin and they literally always keep moving back in to catch the leg
I finally got it down! For people who can't get it (like me,) the thing that helped was not doing it in one go. After you spin the knife around your index finger, try just catching the safe handle. After getting good at that, you can swing the bite handle up and catch it to finish. Once you get good at that, combine the two and you will have done the trick! Hope this has helped.
Originally the spy would do this when he raised his knife but the Developers decided it was to long of an animation. This is why he has a more simple flip in modern tf2. Btw gr8 vid m8 :)
I got a gist of it. So apparently, you dont force the spin of the knife to your fingers. You let the momentum of the forward hand going to an ark towards you that will spin the knife slow enough that you can pull out your finger and catch the knife in a closed position.
this is a great tutorial, though the fact you didnt mention the similarity to the index rollover is a bad thing cuz the index roll is just that final part, the only difference is you have the knife out and keep it out.
Took me two days and a very bruised hand, but I got it down. That was a month ago. Still practicing it. Easy af now. I can even do it holding the bite handle with out getting cut... which is what I prefer because it actually puts the blade towards the enemy.
I struggled for a while but I finally figured it out. Don’t do any change of force. Don’t try to compensate and to try to keep it on track. Make sure there is absolutely no change of flow...
Fun fact: spy did this in the betas but (iirc) players found the animation too slow and confusing and despite the backstab hotbox appearing before the animation finished, most players would wait for it to complete before stabbing. Nowadays that probably wouldn't be a problem because spy mains optimize the absolute shit out of backstab timing and don't even wait for the knife to reverse before hitting a backstabe.
*Spy comes up behind an enemy*
*about to backstab*
Spy: Oh wait hold on *does noisy fancy balisong twirls*
*enemy turns around*
The Celery Stick 101 yes
actually there used to be a really long animation for the spy taking out his knife and doing things just like you suggested but it was removed because of that exact reason. here is a video. th-cam.com/video/iPZjDTDwJIs/w-d-xo.html
@Copyrighted Image actually if you read the description of the video it is a mod but the mod is a remake of the original animation from TF2 beta
Also if valve did the fancy twirl animation to backstab. I wonder how it looks like you trickstab the whole enemy team
That why is use The Eternal Reward
First attempt it wound up in a sniper's back
First attempt and it wound up in my back
lol
I got this *5 seconds later blade flies out of my hand*
SNIPER ARE YOU OKAY IM SO SORRY?!
That's how you know it's working
First attempt the trainer wound up in my back 🤔
In the Team Fortress 2 beta (I think) there's a video on it somewhere, the spy was going to have an animation to get to reverse grip, however, valve removed because they thought it was too "distracting"
wow! great knowledge! yeah I found the video and it is literally this move!!! that is hilarious! here it is th-cam.com/video/f8UsbFDfL_U/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for finding it for me. (ngl, I couldn't be asked to find it myself)
Puddlez From The Mystery Vlogs they should have made it
More than distracting It takes time.If it was implemented in the game trickstabs wouldn't be possible
I think it in game now
Tried it...the cat will be greatly missed...
rip garfield
Big Flips hey your that guy in this video :D
Small world...always good to see fellow flippers keeping the culture alive. Also no music in slowmo...distracting...very good otherwise
OH ****
R.I.P Whiskers
Have to do it 8 more times to get rid of the cat
that spy is a spy
Quoted by sniper XD
"That scout is a scout!"
-Spy
Me: "That scout is *ded* "
That sentry is a spy!
The person above is above
That spy ain’t on our side
My trainer knife flew out of my hand and cracked my phone screen.
Nice.
BluuM that could happened to me
Milky hey at least you didn’t hurt yourself
@@Somespideronline the crack is still here and it serves as a painful reminder
Milky c’mon man, a phone is replaceable. However, a part of your body is irreplaceable, and you’re lucky you didn’t hurt yourself.
bUt hOw dId yOu cOmMeNt
Me: ,,Hmmm... This looks easy!"
*Mom is coming in my room*
Mom: ,,Why is there a knife in your eye?"
At least you can be like another tf2 class now
Dein leeres Klopapier ‘oh, nothing’
i tried to be the tf2 spy
Feeling Butterflies in your stomach is not always love.
"That Demoman's a spy!"
Honestly, The Spy is the only reason I got into using the butterfly knife, and I don't regret it
I’m the only reason
Same!!
same!
i thought you said “butter knife” and started imagining tf2 gameplay with spy holding a butter knife
Same
remember the point of this trick isnt to successfully complete the trick, its to gain enough momentum with your knife to fling out of your hand and with enough luck kill the enemy
spy-Yes time to shine
Spy-*tries to do the trick but keeps failing*
enemy spy-here *does it for him*
spy-thanks
enemy spy- no problem
spy-W A I T A S E C O N D
Enemy spy goes away
Wait thats illegal
there were 2 spies in the same team the other one is dressed up as the enemy spy xD
RIGHT BEHIND YOU INTENSIFIES
enemy spy: slowly cloaks and walks away like nothing happened
Watch the meet the spy video. He does this trick right before stabbing the Soldier and Heavy.
i got really excited but if you watch the clip in meet the spy in slo mo the knife is locked the whole time! good eye! it looks just like it though
Big Flips he does the thumb roll over in meet the spy (I'm pretty sure)
BenjaminSteber thats not it he does the zen rolover
He does that before he flips it into the stab motion at the end of the video. Anyway, it turns out I was wrong about the second motion where he flips the knife to stabbing posture he just switches the grip.
he does the y2k
Its hella hard
dude no fucking joke I cant get momentum to turn it bro, its so fucking hard.
Ikr
I did it
it’s so easy wtf are you all on about this isn’t intermediate it’s beginner easy asf
@@doverif you are the bali god right?
Accidentally stabbed the front right seat of my moms Škoda yeti
ha classic.
Big Flips yep
*O O F*
Are you czech
@@BigFlips he classic scout
I didn’t realize this was an intermediate level trick I’m still considered a beginner thanks cool guy
I thought the rollover was beginner lol
reason why spy doesnt do that is the knife raises up faster than doing the cool trick, and you really dont want to make a slow move in tf2 cuz its a fast paced game
CyMations to be fair , the beta deploy animation was longer and flashier , but was only replaced because it would " distract " people
Also they'd have to make sounds for it which could be heard by the person you're about to backstab and blow your cover
yes because the spy is underpowered as it is
also because your enemies can hear you making does clicking sounds
It’s slow and fast paced
I managed to do it right once out of about 200 times.
haha, did it right within 3 minutes :)
I cut my fingers off how bout you?
@@missingtexture921 I just use a butterfly comb lol
same
Spy: almost backstabs the sniper
The sniper: pulls a 180 turn still scoped and gets a headshot in .2 seconds
Nah, the sniper spins like a beyblade on crack cocaine and headshots you before you even you walk up to him cuz its a bot
Average 5,000 hours sniper main
and this is why I LOVE ballisongs. it's so ellegant, yet dangerous. it is a knife after all
i love how detailed he is-definetly my fav. butterfly knife youtuber
“Yo this sick imma try this”
“Oh wait i need to buy a knife first”
The move IS way cooler but would take longer, and the animation needs to be accurate to when the spy can back stab, its also why his unsheath animation when you swap to the knife is pretty simple compared to the original knife trick he did
Agent Delta Hey Delta
supposedly he DID use to do this super flashy trick when going for a backstab, but valve changed it because it was too distracting
It wasn't because it was distracting, it was because they changed the weapon switch speed to be faster on all classes.
@@kinetic.vibe. he’s talking about the backstab animation
It's cool doing a y2k into the spy without a pause, they flow so well
To anyone having trouble, I tried hovering my index finger directly above the part that I had it on originally. You also have to wait for both handles to point straight up to pull your finger out. Basically just watch the slow motion again
Great tutorial man, really appreciate all the detailing, like how after every stage in the trick you revert back to the start of the trick and talk through every motion in order again. Genuinely really helpfull.
hey is there a trick like this but to do the OPPOSITE? i want to go FROM icepick grip TO a normal grip. please help
reverse icepick, its a beginner trick
Fun fact; Spy actually did originally have a trick animation before his actual backstab "stance", however it was cut from the game for practicality reasons. You can see it in the pre-launch trailer, alongside Scout's cut Nailgun primary, Medic's syringe, and Demoman's dynamite bundle.
The more you know.
I just bought my trainer yesterday and i am already trying to do this trick its so hard unlike the zen rollover and the y2k
0:48 awesome slowmo start
Your tutorial was amazing i learnt it after 15-20 minutes of practicing i’m a beginner just started a couple days ago
The spy was the entire reason y I knew and wanted a balisong so learning this trick has been a goal of mine ever since the start
I tried to do this but the knife kept falling out of my hand.
more practice! learn some other stuff and come back!
Big Flips thanks
I’m so glad I found ur channel I just ordered a butterfly knife trainer to practice lol and u explain every so good so I can learn easily
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Big Flips thank you after I learned beginner tricks I was able to do this easily!
i want this balisong ... who do you get them ? i am from germany
Big Flips doesn't that hurt when the blade hit your finger?
Big Flips you balisong is a benchmade?
***** w i p
The spy has already breached our defense
tried it knife flew up in the air now i have a 2-3 inch cut on my forehead thanks
youre a wizard harry
Big Flips lmao
how did that happen
And that's why you use practice knifes first
This is a pretty simple yet cool trick. I pretty much have it down in 5 minutes and I haven’t flipped or even tried to learn in a 2 years. But I am on a new knife I got today... my only problem is removing my index finger at the end
RIP: Dewannabe
Cause of death: has a CSGO trainer knife instead
Great video!
Interestingly enough, this is how Spy was originally going to get into position to backstab targets. The animation was too long, however, so it was scrapped and replaced with the boring, yet quicker motion.
how sad
My Knife flew off my hand and stabbed my eye Now i'm the Demoman.
Fun fact: the spy originally had a way more complex animation for the butterfly knife, but the devs deemed it too distracting.
I actually ended up combining the double roll out with your move "the spy" so you can actually open it into the ice pick position.
Very cool!
try doing double rollover to backhand twirl to helix (helix includes this move, i think) then to an icepick aerial (might stab fingers due to blade momentum, dont actually do this)
Y2K (thumb rollover) + The Spy(reverse index rollover) combo looks awesome
The first time i see this video i was like "Dude, that's impossible", then after a several times i try, i don't know why i can do this move, and i was like, "What was that?"🤣🤣
how did you manage to get the index finger out of the way, damn...
The slow mo defies gravity
For me I can only catch one handle and then the other one is on the all the way down. Any tips?
yeah really focus on starting low and ending high. that will give you the most momentum. if you are really stuck just skip it and learn some other stuff and come back. some times you just need more time flipping to get more familiar with the knife
Leo G
Bysjks
Leo G try to be more aggressive with the catch
@@BigFlips Yep check. Still catching the handle and the blade.
Hey BIG FLIPS just wanted to thank you for the amazingly helpful tutorials. It felt so good when I did my first y2k. Keep the excellent content comin'!
Man, It's so hard to remove index finger. I was trying about few hundred times and it wasnt going too well
Best tutorial ever. Directions are so clear, unlike some other people.
i capture this video for the france!
-spy 2020
Because I good around so much with the Bali song I was able to get it as soon as you showed the grip thanks for being a clear teacher it has made this so much fun
Spy: sneaks up behind sniper
Sniper: turns around to see spy with his own butterfly knife stuck through his hand
demoman trying to become a spy main: *BLOODY BRILLIANT*
where is the balisong made from?and btw who's watching this in 2018?
SunDarating I’m watching in 2019
It was originated from my own country the Philippines which they banned after
The Philippine Government is a bloody traitor
BRS Balisong
You can use a y2k roll then do this and it looks quite good for a beginner
Thats the spy Disguising as big flips
Great
My favourite Balisong channel.
I think the only reason there isn’t the reverse index animation is because backstabs don’t need a raising animation to initiate, which is why chain stabs exist, and also why the Conniver’s Kunai is a basic murder health kit
This trick really got me into balisong flipping and I finally got it down. Thanks, mate.
i tried for 1 hour and still can't catch both handed, if i try to swing the knife harder it'll fall off my hand and cut me :(
Trung Kien Nguyen You're probably still a beginner, this move is basically a shortstop which is in the middle of intermediate and advanced.
Get a trineraa
*trainer
Tape it
Bro buy a $8 trainer.
Also, it took me 4 days to learn and get to a 90% chance to do the flip.
The Spy actually used to do a flashy trick when he moved the knife to that downwards position, but the devs removed it for being "too distracting."
you should open you next video with, hey what is up guys is scarce here
😂
i will like all of your videos if you do it
James Melon yes pls use dead memes
I did it but forgot to let go and was still pinching onto the bit handle
Holy f*cking shit! I got the move right at exactly 2:49. You’re either good at explaining or maybe I’m starting to get the hang of this
I’m getting a training butterfly knife tomorrow, I wanted to learn some tricks for when I get it and this is the best vid I’ve seen so far
i cant remove my finger it feels too unnatural xD
just skip this one and come back! good luck! youll get it!
Jason Griffin I also ran into this problem and usually ended up holding the knife upside-down by the safe handle with my fingers perpendicular to the knife. I needed my fingers (especially my index finger) to be parallel to the knife so the bite handle could swing up.
I found a trick to removing the index finger out on time by: 1)holding lower on the handle with last 3 fingers and keeping the index finger stretched straight and at a 45° angle facing compared to Big Flips 90° index finger and higher grip w/ last 3 fingers at 1:52. 2) Then throw the bite handle with blade in tow over the stretched index finger and surprisingly it will still roll over and pop out of the way naturally and you'll catch the handles with the web of your thumb/index.
loser
I almost gave up when I first tried it and not pushing it all at once worked for me
I think the stress builds up inside you if you try it too long which can lead to not focusing or shakey hands so just take it slow
@@anthonymolina4777 shut up
my other fingers constantly try and stop the second leg right before catching it at the end, and i mean i literally think to move them out of the way for the spin and they literally always keep moving back in to catch the leg
Wait... The knife doesn't clip through the fingers in real life when slow motion is activated? All the Valve animations were a lie :(
I finally got it down! For people who can't get it (like me,) the thing that helped was not doing it in one go. After you spin the knife around your index finger, try just catching the safe handle. After getting good at that, you can swing the bite handle up and catch it to finish. Once you get good at that, combine the two and you will have done the trick! Hope this has helped.
If he did that, the time between clicking and the actual kill would be way too long.
That animation is played whenever behind a player, before a click
Me in TF2:
“ *stabbing while spinning and throwing a balisong inside their back* “
The scout who was about to kill me:
“Nevermind.”
The Spy used to do this trick tho. It was removed.
different one but still
Originally the spy would do this when he raised his knife but the Developers decided it was to long of an animation. This is why he has a more simple flip in modern tf2. Btw gr8 vid m8 :)
TF2 ❤
You're a great teacher! I got it first try and I got my bailsong today!
BULLSHIT
do you have a ps4
nope. my roomate has an xbone tho
This channel is perfect cuz he flexes while giving awesome tutorials
It’s called reverse index rollover but I call it “the spy” jus for the clickbait
Instructions unclear, I accidentally summoned spy at 3 AM
0:01 I'm a female
k
Never seen a woman with a butterfly knife
@@johnfebrosell5749cuckoo trailer
Didn't ask
Same
TF2 Spy actually got me interested in balisongs in the first place, so ofc i'll perfect this trick
Me: tries it.
Also me: Goes to the hospital because I have butterflies in my stomach.
Out of all the intermediate tricks This one is my favourite.
I got a gist of it.
So apparently, you dont force the spin of the knife to your fingers. You let the momentum of the forward hand going to an ark towards you that will spin the knife slow enough that you can pull out your finger and catch the knife in a closed position.
you go into such detail and it makes it so much easier to learn tricks properly thanks for the help, subscribed
we need to mocap this man’s hand for an animation pack
Its been 3 hours, my entire hand is cut and im still going
this is a great tutorial, though the fact you didnt mention the similarity to the index rollover is a bad thing cuz the index roll is just that final part, the only difference is you have the knife out and keep it out.
This is one of the neatest tricks I've ever seen!
Took me two days and a very bruised hand, but I got it down. That was a month ago. Still practicing it. Easy af now. I can even do it holding the bite handle with out getting cut... which is what I prefer because it actually puts the blade towards the enemy.
You are my favorite balisong "instructor" I guess I could say lol. You're videos are awesome
great bro! thanks for watching!
Tried it. Made a cut between my thumb and pointer finger but that ain’t gonna stop me.
However I think the other 6 cuts might...
This needs to be in a spy animation overhaul immediately
You have the best balisong tutorial channel. Thank you.
i love how the spy chooses the noisiest knife
I never thought I would learn how to do trick on butterfly knife in my life
I struggled for a while but I finally figured it out. Don’t do any change of force. Don’t try to compensate and to try to keep it on track. Make sure there is absolutely no change of flow...
Fun fact: spy did this in the betas but (iirc) players found the animation too slow and confusing and despite the backstab hotbox appearing before the animation finished, most players would wait for it to complete before stabbing.
Nowadays that probably wouldn't be a problem because spy mains optimize the absolute shit out of backstab timing and don't even wait for the knife to reverse before hitting a backstabe.
Plot twist : Big Flips is actually The Spy in disguise.
Soldier: Alright... Who going to find the spy
Spy: Right behind you
Thank you lots just got my first butterfly knife like an hour ago and I found this video and it helped me a lot and now I can do it every try