Interesting and helpful thank you. Maybe a weight just above the filter would work to pull it to the bottom? We are very new to caravan if and having water issues !
We also had and issue with our pump, not bending but water flow. We went to a Whale pump and what a difference. Hope your fix works, thanks for your vlog. 👍
Thanks guys, to be honest we’ve now purchased the Whale pump 😊 don’t tell anyone though 😜 It’s great that so many other caravanners have offered up their solution to the problem 👍🏻 Thanks for watching, Keith & Michele
Hi Guy's. I know it was a while ago but I watched with interest your topic on the water pipe problem. I went to my local Wickes store and found this item (Flexible Waste connector pipe) Price at £6.49. It's 11/4" pipe and 18" ins (450mm) So easy to fit and it works. Malc from Staff's
Hi Keith, as you have already bought your "FIX" might I suggest you cut off the end of the tube with the black cap, then remove the filter from your hose then feed the hose through the remaining tube, refit the filter and fit assembly to the aquaroll as normal. The hose will now remain straight. Happy camping.😉
The accessory you show will fit your pipe as is as it is fitted with a strainer not a filter. Some caravans have proper carbon filled filters which are about 4" long so the tube has to shortened by that amount. Enjoyed the video.
Interesting stuff I'll be interested in seeing how you get on with it, my solution was to get a length of plastic rod from a model shop about the diamiter of 4mm cut it a little under the internal length of the aqua roll and then use several elastic band to fix it to the pipe, not sure if the plastic rod is food grade but as we only use the water for tea/coffee so its always boiled, this was only going to be a short term solution, so I'll wait for your verdict. Best wishes Jon and Karen
Hi Jon & Karen, great to have your comments as always. This video has been really interesting as it has generated a lot of input from other caravanners, all with varying solutions, which is great to see. You may have noticed Keith’s scepticism whilst recording 🤔 however we have now purchased the Whale equivalent. Thanks again for watching. Keith & Michele
Good tip , sometimes after I fill the aquaroll I get air in the pump , and the water will not flow , so out I go again , give it a wiggle up and down and that usually gets it going again , must be a male pump methinks Lol. Whale Pumps are made in a factory just down the road from me in Bangor , Co.Down N.Ireland and a nicer group of people you could ever meet , so helpful and caring in customer care and after sales , Google the tel. no . I'm sure they will help you with any problem , cheers Happy Caravanning !
Hi Linda, Great tip, thanks for sharing 👍🏻 Whale customer service telephone number is +44 (0) 345 9090 911 email: info@whalepumps.com if any one needs to contact them. Many thanks, Keith & Michele.
Hi Martin, as always thanks very much for watching & for your comments. This video has certainly sparked a lot of input from fellow caravanners which is nice to see. We have now resorted to a Whale pump so we’ll see how that goes. Have a great Easter, Keith & Michele 😀
Hello, I have been doing this for years and have found that I didn't have to replace a new clip to the pipe. I find It stays in place and hasn't moved at all. 👍
Carefree Caravanning hi guys, love the videos. Where did you find the whale equivalent, be interesting to see how the different models compare in their set up. Keep up the good work. The review from Concierge Camping Site has got us looking there for next year, just back from a 2 week stay at The Old Oaks site at Glastonbury and it was superb, well worth a visit. Happy caravanning. 👍🏻
Hi Doug, We covered this in another video titled Modifications & Updates On Our Swift Vogue 580 Caravan (3 mins 15 secs in) We purchased the Whale pump from Amazon & there is a link to the product in the description box of that video. Haven’t been to The Old Oaks but will definitely put it on the list 👍🏻 Thanks for that. You’ll love Concierge, it’s fantastic 😀 Best wishes, Keith & Michele.
If using a “replacement jubilee clip “ would recommend a stainless steel clip as when you clean tank with water tank purification fluid/tabs etc will cause early corrosion contaminating water system. 👍
Hi guys, there is an easier and cheaper way. I went to a diy store and got a length of copper radiator pipe cover, it's a plastic "C" shape pipe that you clip on to the copper pipe to your household radiator so you don't have to paint it. Just cut it to legnth and clip it on, and when your packing up just un clip it and you can still store your pipe rolled up in the sink, takes seconds and cost about £3 per meter.
Thanks Graham. You may have noticed I was a little sceptical about this but thought the pros outweigh the cons. Your solution sounds good but not to sure I’ve seen them. Would it be possible for you to send me a link or photo of it? Info@carefreecaravanning.co.uk thanks again. Keith & Michele
Graham - excellent idea and ready made.... I would have used tie wraps and hygienically clean splint of wood, stainless steel or plastic attache to the pipe to stiffen it. Your solution is even easier. Whats the betting you're an an engineer ? 😃😃
Hi Keith and Michele lovely to see you guys again hope u enjoying your new caravan I've been having the same problem with my pipe it's the same as yours I've just been on line and Dan trudgain dose the whale pump through Amazon at 45pound hope that can be of any good all the the best .lev
Yes just the thing, was thinking about the very same problem last week? however, the accessory pipe diameter looks a little narrow to fit my aquaroll pipe, with the pump at the end, through it? their website does not give dimensions? so it would be nice if you could give actual demonstration of how this works, not just theory! keep up the good stuff
The very old fix for this is just to buy a cheap length of white plastic pipe for couple of quid and fit the same as you expensive solution, this also cures your problem of removing it to refill the aqua roll
Hi, liked the vid, and like you don’t like the Truma system. I’ve looked for the Whale version but can only find the external pump version. Unable to find a version with only a filter suitable for an on board pump. Any chance of an update showing what your actually using now? Many Thanks John & Al
Hi John & Al, The Whale pump that we have now purchased is the Whale EP1642. Although there are connectors on the new pipe, these are not used on our caravan as it has an internal pump. We have just released a modifications & updates video on our channel detailing this. Hope this helps 👍🏻 Thanks for watching 😀 Keith & Michele
Hi Keith, we did a quick fix film last year when we first got the Sprite. However Andrew Ditton kindly gave us his Whale one which works great, we covered it in last year's End of first seasons update? You can get them from most Caravan Dealerships Thanks P&J
Cheers Phil & Juliet, looking online I can only seem to find the ones with the external water pump 😢 Phil, you wouldn’t by chance have a part number of the whale or any links? Cheers Keith & Michele
Great video, I have one of these I found I had to cut the pipe to length as the tube is to long once the filter is threaded through and the rounded end isn’t wide enough to get the pipe through although the diameter of pipe is.
Hi Stephen, we haven’t actually used this yet, but understand what you’re saying. May need to take a hacksaw next time we’re out. Thanks for watching 👍🏻 Keith & Michele
Hi Kevin, We did do a review but we removed it as we filmed it in our awning & a viewer mentioned it wasn’t safe to do so. Many thanks, Keith & Michele.
Mine never worked from new...curled up completly....i thought pump was broke... until chap next door said he had same problem with his. He tied a few stainless steel washers with zip ties to it and hey presto worked everytime since. Now I store it straight......i put a few self adhesive clips on the bulkhead in front locker.. high up to save any damage and store it there...safely....it comes out as straight and true every time now.... dont even need the weight any more.
Hi Keith & Michelle, We have a whale version but it has a pump which is heavier than yours I suspect, however you could have tried a piece of wood & a couple of elastic bands to keep it straight, I know hindsight is a wonderful thing but it would have been cheaper I suspect. we use an elastic band to stop the connection point flap making a noise when its windy. Regards Craig & Kristen
I did the same thing. A length of the green plastic cain from the garden centre costing £1.20, cut it to lengh and cable tyed it to the pipe. No more running out of water halfway through a shower.
You don't need to pull the tube all the way out to fill with a watering can, etc as the gap around the tube is more than enough to pour the top-up water in! Just need to unscrew the cap and lift it up 6" or so.
I keep a small hook on the grab handle when on site, then when I fill the aquaroll I just hang the whole pipe on the hook, keeps it off the ground. 👍🏼👍🏼
Great tip Sid, hopefully others will find this useful, many thanks for sharing, wishing you a very Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year. Best wishes, Keith & Michele.
On the pistol grip where it enters the caravan there is a blue fitting that hinges out from the body of the fitting. You hang the hose on that to stop it dragging on the ground.
We don't have this problem as we have the pump on the end which causes the pipe to sink - and there's an idea, zip tie a weight to the bottom end of the pipe...something like a stainless steel knife, obviously not a sharp one. Probably could pick one up from a charity shop grind off the blade....etc. A lot better than the pipe thing you recommend but haven't actually used because you think it might be a faff.
Many thanks for sharing that information Jonesclan, we’ve actually got one of these now 👍🏻 Hopefully others will find this very useful, thanks for watching, Keith & Michele
Tape a plastic ridged rod or thin wooden dowel of suitable length to the hose to keep it straight. If you use water from the Aquaroll for drinking, anything used should be of food grade quality otherwise sterilise what you use. Cost is pence.
Cable tie a couple of stainless steel nuts at the bottom of the pipe you dont even have to remove the filter...and this will weight the filter to the bottom of the aquaroll
Just one more thing.... if you do use this gismo ... its critical when you put on a new jubilee clip that its STAINLESS STEEL......dont think a standard mild steel and galvanized one will do.. in no time it will rust up... last think you want in your fresh water.
ablemike11 I bought a small mid size heavyish waterproof lock from Poundland, for £1, attaching it to filter tube base. Works fine every time which it never did before!
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That's genius. It would have saved a lot of stress on our new to us caravan this weekend . Wil check out your other handy vids 👍 👌
Hi @darrenjones1564 Many thanks for watching Darren ❤️ Delighted you found it helpful 🤗 Sending our best wishes to you, Keith & Michele xxx
I just moved the aquaroll a bit further away from the van, job done never had any problems since.
Thanks Jim. Lots of suggestions on this one all very helpful. Thanks for watching. Keith & Michele
Yup save yourself some money move your aquaroll further away
Interesting and helpful thank you. Maybe a weight just above the filter would work to pull it to the bottom?
We are very new to caravan if and having water issues !
hi i used two 24mm stainless steel nuts over a short piece of conduit .. job done works a treat.
We also had and issue with our pump, not bending but water flow. We went to a Whale pump and what a difference. Hope your fix works, thanks for your vlog. 👍
Thanks guys, to be honest we’ve now purchased the Whale pump 😊 don’t tell anyone though 😜 It’s great that so many other caravanners have offered up their solution to the problem 👍🏻 Thanks for watching, Keith & Michele
Hi Guy's. I know it was a while ago but I watched with interest your topic on the water pipe problem. I went to my local Wickes store and found this item (Flexible Waste connector pipe) Price at £6.49. It's 11/4" pipe and 18" ins (450mm) So easy to fit and it works. Malc from Staff's
Hi Malc, Many thanks for that information, very useful to know 👍🏻 Thanks for watching, Keith & Michele.
Hi Keith, as you have already bought your "FIX" might I suggest you cut off the end of the tube with the black cap, then remove the filter from your hose then feed the hose through the remaining tube, refit the filter and fit assembly to the aquaroll as normal. The hose will now remain straight.
Happy camping.😉
Hi Frank, Another great tip, thanks for sharing. We have now purchased the Whale equivalent which is superb 👍🏻 Thanks for watching 😀 Keith & Michele
The accessory you show will fit your pipe as is as it is fitted with a strainer not a filter. Some caravans have proper carbon filled filters which are about 4" long so the tube has to shortened by that amount. Enjoyed the video.
Hi Bill, thanks for your comment, will keep that in mind. Thanks for watching 👍🏻 Keith & Michele
Another good video guys, I bought a piece of poly pipe from B&Q, £ 2,25, it's just wide enough to slip over the water pipe,
Thanks Graham, you & other people have commented with alternative ideas which is so helpful. Thanks for watching. Keith & Michele
Interesting stuff I'll be interested in seeing how you get on with it, my solution was to get a length of plastic rod from a model shop about the diamiter of 4mm cut it a little under the internal length of the aqua roll and then use several elastic band to fix it to the pipe, not sure if the plastic rod is food grade but as we only use the water for tea/coffee so its always boiled, this was only going to be a short term solution, so I'll wait for your verdict.
Best wishes
Jon and Karen
Hi Jon & Karen, great to have your comments as always. This video has been really interesting as it has generated a lot of input from other caravanners, all with varying solutions, which is great to see. You may have noticed Keith’s scepticism whilst recording 🤔 however we have now purchased the Whale equivalent. Thanks again for watching. Keith & Michele
Hi lenesman I was thinking the same thing .Just not tried it yet
Good tip , sometimes after I fill the aquaroll I get air in the pump , and the water will not flow , so out I go again , give it a wiggle up and down and that usually gets it going again , must be a male pump methinks Lol. Whale Pumps are made in a factory just down the road from me in Bangor , Co.Down N.Ireland and a nicer group of people you could ever meet , so helpful and caring in customer care and after sales , Google the tel. no . I'm sure they will help you with any problem , cheers Happy Caravanning !
Hi Linda, Great tip, thanks for sharing 👍🏻 Whale customer service telephone number is +44 (0) 345 9090 911 email: info@whalepumps.com if any one needs to contact them. Many thanks, Keith & Michele.
Great vid Keith & Michele, we have the same rigid pipe thingy on our inlet. works a treat. Cheers, Martin
Hi Martin, as always thanks very much for watching & for your comments. This video has certainly sparked a lot of input from fellow caravanners which is nice to see. We have now resorted to a Whale pump so we’ll see how that goes. Have a great Easter, Keith & Michele 😀
We did exactly what you said.its a brilliant idea , thanks Guys x
Delighted you found our video useful and our tip worked for you. Sending our best wishes, Keith & Michele
Hello, I have been doing this for years and have found that I didn't have to replace a new clip to the pipe. I find It stays in place and hasn't moved at all. 👍
Many thanks for sharing your experience Steve & thanks for watching. Sending our best wishes, Keith & Michele.
I’ve always just stored ours straight and have never had any problems. Exact same fitting as this.
Hi Doug, Thanks for the advice 👍🏻 We’ve now changed to the Whale equivalant. Thanks for watching, Keith & Michele.
Carefree Caravanning hi guys, love the videos. Where did you find the whale equivalent, be interesting to see how the different models compare in their set up. Keep up the good work. The review from Concierge Camping Site has got us looking there for next year, just back from a 2 week stay at The Old Oaks site at Glastonbury and it was superb, well worth a visit. Happy caravanning. 👍🏻
Hi Doug, We covered this in another video titled Modifications & Updates On Our Swift Vogue 580 Caravan (3 mins 15 secs in) We purchased the Whale pump from Amazon & there is a link to the product in the description box of that video. Haven’t been to The Old Oaks but will definitely put it on the list 👍🏻 Thanks for that. You’ll love Concierge, it’s fantastic 😀 Best wishes, Keith & Michele.
I find using a radiator pipe sleeve works well at keeping the the pipe straight and only cost a couple of pounds
Hi Raymond, Great tip, Many thanks, hopefully others will find this useful 👍🏻 Thanks for watching, Keith & Michele.
I do the same with two lengths of 15 mm radiator pipe sleeves. Works a treat.
If using a “replacement jubilee clip “ would recommend a stainless steel clip as when you clean tank with water tank purification fluid/tabs etc will cause early corrosion contaminating water system. 👍
Excellent advice Rob, many thanks for sharing 👍🏻 Sending our best wishes to you, Keith & Michele.
Hi guys, there is an easier and cheaper way. I went to a diy store and got a length of copper radiator pipe cover, it's a plastic "C" shape pipe that you clip on to the copper pipe to your household radiator so you don't have to paint it. Just cut it to legnth and clip it on, and when your packing up just un clip it and you can still store your pipe rolled up in the sink, takes seconds and cost about £3 per meter.
Thanks Graham. You may have noticed I was a little sceptical about this but thought the pros outweigh the cons. Your solution sounds good but not to sure I’ve seen them. Would it be possible for you to send me a link or photo of it? Info@carefreecaravanning.co.uk thanks again. Keith & Michele
It clips on to the outside of your existing hose to make it rigid.
Yes mate you’re right, I realised that just after I’d replied.
Graham - excellent idea and ready made.... I would have used tie wraps and hygienically clean splint of wood, stainless steel or plastic attache to the pipe to stiffen it. Your solution is even easier. Whats the betting you're an an engineer ? 😃😃
Hi Keith and Michele lovely to see you guys again hope u enjoying your new caravan I've been having the same problem with
my pipe it's the same as yours I've just been on line and Dan trudgain dose the whale pump through Amazon at 45pound hope that can be of any good all the the best .lev
Hi Kev, great to see your comments on our videos 👍🏻😀 Thanks for the info, we’ve now ordered one. Keith & Michele
Hi ya can u do a up date
on the whale pump when it comes to c what u think of it please thanks
Kev
Absolutely Kev 👍🏻 Keith & Michele
Yes just the thing, was thinking about the very same problem last week? however, the accessory pipe diameter looks a little narrow to fit my aquaroll pipe, with the pump at the end, through it? their website does not give dimensions? so it would be nice if you could give actual demonstration of how this works, not just theory! keep up the good stuff
Hi Bryan, We’ve now succumbed to the Whale pump option 😀 It’s just so much easier 👍🏻 thanks for watching, Keith & Michele
The very old fix for this is just to buy a cheap length of white plastic pipe for couple of quid and fit the same as you expensive solution, this also cures your problem of removing it to refill the aqua roll
Thanks for the tip Roy 👍🏻 Keith & Michele
Spot on Roy and you can use elastic bands to hold it on 😉
Hi, liked the vid, and like you don’t like the Truma system. I’ve looked for the Whale version but can only find the external pump version. Unable to find a version with only a filter suitable for an on board pump. Any chance of an update showing what your actually using now?
Many Thanks
John & Al
Hi John & Al, The Whale pump that we have now purchased is the Whale EP1642. Although there are connectors on the new pipe, these are not used on our caravan as it has an internal pump. We have just released a modifications & updates video on our channel detailing this. Hope this helps 👍🏻 Thanks for watching 😀 Keith & Michele
Whale UH0042 is the one you want
Hi Keith, we did a quick fix film last year when we first got the Sprite. However Andrew Ditton kindly gave us his Whale one which works great, we covered it in last year's End of first seasons update? You can get them from most Caravan Dealerships Thanks P&J
Cheers Phil & Juliet, looking online I can only seem to find the ones with the external water pump 😢 Phil, you wouldn’t by chance have a part number of the whale or any links? Cheers Keith & Michele
@@keithandmichele Whale Ultraflow EP1642 is the correct one and it works very well. There are some on ebay for about £45. Phil
I knew I could rely on you Phil, thanks Keith & Michele 👍👍
lost weekends caravan
The EP1642 has a pump on the end, he needs one with just a strainer on the end as the caravan has an internal pump.
Great video, I have one of these I found I had to cut the pipe to length as the tube is to long once the filter is threaded through and the rounded end isn’t wide enough to get the pipe through although the diameter of pipe is.
Hi Stephen, we haven’t actually used this yet, but understand what you’re saying. May need to take a hacksaw next time we’re out. Thanks for watching 👍🏻 Keith & Michele
Wish I'd known before we arrived...
Delighted you found our video useful Marcia. Sending our best wishes, Keith & Michele
Did you do a review on your caddac
Hi Kevin, We did do a review but we removed it as we filmed it in our awning & a viewer mentioned it wasn’t safe to do so. Many thanks, Keith & Michele.
Mine never worked from new...curled up completly....i thought pump was broke... until chap next door said he had same problem with his.
He tied a few stainless steel washers with zip ties to it and hey presto worked everytime since.
Now I store it straight......i put a few self adhesive clips on the bulkhead in front locker.. high up to save any damage and store it there...safely....it comes out as straight and true every time now.... dont even need the weight any more.
Many thanks for sharing your tip John, hopefully others will find this very useful 👍🏻 Best wishes, Keith & Michele.
Hi Keith & Michelle,
We have a whale version but it has a pump which is heavier than yours I suspect, however you could have tried a piece of wood & a couple of elastic bands to keep it straight, I know hindsight is a wonderful thing but it would have been cheaper I suspect.
we use an elastic band to stop the connection point flap making a noise when its windy.
Regards
Craig & Kristen
Hi Craig & Kristen, we have now purchased the Whale version which is proving to be very successful 😀 Thanks for watching 👍🏻 Keith & Michele
Remove filter and fit a weight (m 24 stainless steel nut ) refit filter and let it hang inside water container.
Hi Jim, thanks for watching, so many suggestions on this topic, great to hear them all 👍🏻 Keith & Michele
Nice video Keith good idea... 👍
Thanks for watching 👍🏻 Keith & Michele.
You can use a piece of clean new garden cane and a couple of cable ties, does the same job.
Hi Dianne & Robert, Many thanks for sharing your advice 👍🏻 Best wishes, Keith & Michele.
I did the same thing. A length of the green plastic cain from the garden centre costing £1.20, cut it to lengh and cable tyed it to the pipe. No more running out of water halfway through a shower.
You don't need to pull the tube all the way out to fill with a watering can, etc as the gap around the tube is more than enough to pour the top-up water in! Just need to unscrew the cap and lift it up 6" or so.
Good point Simon, thanks for that 👍🏻 Keith & Michele.
To much hassle store mine in a piece of pipe lagging to keep it straight, nice filming 👍
Thanks for sharing this information Top Flight 👍🏻 Sending our best wishes to you, Keith & Michele.
I keep a small hook on the grab handle when on site, then when I fill the aquaroll I just hang the whole pipe on the hook, keeps it off the ground. 👍🏼👍🏼
Great tip Sid, hopefully others will find this useful, many thanks for sharing, wishing you a very Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year. Best wishes, Keith & Michele.
On the pistol grip where it enters the caravan there is a blue fitting that hinges out from the body of the fitting. You hang the hose on that to stop it dragging on the ground.
We don't have this problem as we have the pump on the end which causes the pipe to sink - and there's an idea, zip tie a weight to the bottom end of the pipe...something like a stainless steel knife, obviously not a sharp one. Probably could pick one up from a charity shop grind off the blade....etc. A lot better than the pipe thing you recommend but haven't actually used because you think it might be a faff.
Hi Paul, Since filming this video we have purchased the Whale equivalent which is superb 👍🏻 No faffing 😆 Thanks for watching, Keith & Michele
Cheaper option a piece of rigid plastic pipe slit once then fitted over the pipe
Great solution Ian, many thanks for sharing. Sending our best wishes, Keith & Michele
Whale do a great replacement with a part number of UH0042 AND HAD A FILTER ON THE END MAKING THE BOTTOM HAVIER
Many thanks for sharing that information Jonesclan, we’ve actually got one of these now 👍🏻 Hopefully others will find this very useful, thanks for watching, Keith & Michele
Tape a plastic ridged rod or thin wooden dowel of suitable length to the hose to keep it straight. If you use water from the Aquaroll for drinking, anything used should be of food grade quality otherwise sterilise what you use. Cost is pence.
Many thanks for sharing David 👍🏻 Sending our best wishes to you, Keith & Michele.
Cable tie a couple of stainless steel nuts at the bottom of the pipe you dont even have to remove the filter...and this will weight the filter to the bottom of the aquaroll
Many thanks for sharing John, hopefully others will find this useful 👍🏻 Best wishes, Keith & Michele.
Just one more thing.... if you do use this gismo ... its critical when you put on a new jubilee clip that its STAINLESS STEEL......dont think a standard mild steel and galvanized one will do.. in no time it will rust up... last think you want in your fresh water.
Many thanks for the update John 👍🏻
I tie wrapped a plastic coated fishing weight (available from all good angling shops) on the filter end. Problem solved.
Many thanks for watching, sending our best wishes, Keith & Michele
I hang the pipe from an S hook in the bathroom while it’s not it use. Then it’s always straight.
Thanks for sharing your experience Matthew 👍🏻 Sending our best wishes, Keith & Michele.
We like our caravaning
Tilt the aquaroll and pull it away, simple.
How do you get the full one in ?
I just wrap some old roofing lead around the end to make it sink 😂
I don't think using lead in your potable water is a good idea.
@@stephen5473 I hope this is a joke... lead... omg...
I would probably fit some small weight around the filter end to keep it fully submerged
ablemike11 I bought a small mid size heavyish waterproof lock from Poundland, for £1, attaching it to filter tube base. Works fine every time which it never did before!
Pipe is too long
Bailey do whale
Thanks for that information Stuart, hopefully others will find that useful, thanks for watching, Keith & Michele.