I had such a good time watching this - seems you had fun filming. Thanks for pointing out that altering the patch or using it as a starting point for building an individualized sequencer is doable and totally makes sense. I slimmed down the default patch (generated by the patch generator inside the DROID Forge) by 1 track and freed some RAM to work with. I then added another B32 (32 button matrix) and an E4 (4 encoders) to put an algoquencer circuit to use as 4 track 16 step drum sequencer with plenty of features. Of course it does polyrhythms and polymetrics each track separately and is intuitive to use. The four tracks are colour coded, which reflects in the LED meters surrounding the E4s, so when performing in darkness I'm always properly informed, which drum track I'm working with at the moment. I should say that I'm using a DROID Master + X7 + G8 setup to have enough gate outputs to serve my drum tracks and the voice tracks of the MFPS. It's a space ship command center and performing is just so much more fun.
Pinned by mylarmelodies @MoritzScharf Morris can you do a video of how to do the modifications to a MOTO kit to achieve the 4 track 16 step drum sequencer ?
Greetings to all of you and thanks for this great video, Alex! I had really fun watching it and enjoyed your great diversity of music styles that you've produced with this sequencer.
@dermannmitdermaschine thank you for making this. I purchased 4x M4 motor fader controllers and the other modules in the bundled kit previously before the MOTO KIT was released. Can I buy the stickers separately since I already own the parts on the MOTO KIT? Can I also request instructions for accessing "patch generator" in Droid Forge that makes the button layout and setup simple and easy to configure?
This is very cool! I'm wondering what the potential is for pattern memory? I can imagine this with a whole other B23 dedicated to patterns/scenes/presets (perhaps with chaining or even "clip launch" style grid quantization), though Mylar mentioned that it may be at the limits of it's memory? Perhaps can be overcome via the card slot?
@@CmJr328Yes you can. Stickers are available in our shop. You can generate the patch, even with four M4 yourself in the Forge. You need version 1.5. And the manual includes everything
I'll probably never own a single piece of modular gear but that won't stop me from admiring the time, effort, research and development it took to create these cool pieces of hardware. Cool stuff
I know the feeling😅 Love watching all that stuff working together and the ingenuity of the people designing and making stuff - not to mention making music on it. I do have some semi-modular stuff though....😬
@@mylarmelodies Likewise! Superbooth is mostly a meeting of people for me, and verry happy to have spoken to a bunch of people I hadn't before. All the best!
If there are any Sinfonion users out there: What's not mentioned in the Video: You can attach this as a follower to a Sinfonion, so the sequencer follows all the root notes / scale changes (chord changes) of the Sinfonion.
I got maybe the only one Sinfonion in Mexico, and im waiting that the Moto Kit is again available in your site for purchasing it! i was scratching my head if i would need 'both' devices but as you mentioned MotoK performance sequencer can follow Sinfonion i may wish to keep it and pair them. Im using Percussa SSP as sound source for stacking voices for chords and some monophonic ones generated inside the module . Hope you can makea video of Moto Kit working besides Sinfonion !
It is a huge world indeed, defo it works for me that this is a “finished”/off the shelf package. That said I’m definitely going to see how I can tweak it. A vid on the possibilities of the system would be like making Lord of the Rings, but I’d like to see it!! What approach did you take when you designed your system?
What a great demo of the DROID system and the Motokit in particular. And the demo sounds very like Mylarmelodies, what I like. I had the chance to test the Motokit as well and my stuff sounds totally different. My configuration of the Motor Fader Performance Sequenzer (MFPS) is a bit different to the default settings. I added more steps per voice (32) and the ability to play chords on one track and removed a voice to have space for drum (like mention in the video Moritz did) and root note sequencing. So you can really customise the DROID to make it fit your needs. I use DROID for sequencing everything (melodies, drums and chord progression) for some time now. I build my own patches (also have video on this on TH-cam). But this MFPS for the Motokit is very feature rich and well thought out. I will keep some of the core features in my DROID patches for sure. Thanks for sharing this long demo.
Thanks for this m8, it’s really interesting to see the ways the MFPS could be customised - that sounds fantastic. I had also thought to have a channel spare as a “chord progression” track - shifting the root note! Will speak to you at superbooth I’m sure about this, looking forward
I'm also exploring the Droid System at the moment and love it so far. So many possibilities, extremely flexible and the faders are just pure fun to use 🙌🙌
matthis kettner is a genius. he did a tremendous job with his sinfonion ( which will never leave my system ) and now this. almost all his moules are under top ten modules on modular grid. i mean this is really a work of a genius. now with the editor...... crazy good. if you touch these faders once, you don't want to touch anything else. i swear!!! ps: fucking love you alex!
Aseeeeed! Quartet and the end of Forlorn Acid are incredibly funky, its like all of Warp/Rephlex/Planet Mu in one set of modules and 20 hand picked synths, very enjoyable, well done sir
You always do such a great job learning and explaining the complexities of the tools you use, but my favorite thing by far about your explorations is how smart and cool and funky the musicality of it all is. You're a gd treasure to the community
This is so much fun to watch. I am almost tempted to buy one of these sets myself. Looks even more fun to design something like this myself but then I recognize the amount of work and knowledge that was put into designing this. Let's not forget that you can add more - and different - controllers and expanders if you like. I especially love the force feedback/detent style of the motor faders.
Oh yes! Another one of your super entertaining and informative videos!!! Gotta love it 😁. I'd been hooked already by your HYPNO demo to get one. And this is at least as good, so I am just a little envious of the motorfaders, but I'm already happily patching my own sequencer and more with a DROID with encoder modules. The DROID gives you so much freedom and at the same time musical functionality to work with.
Colour me jealous. I've been a fan of Der Mann for some time, but I almost feel I wish I was hearing about it for the first time now-so I could run out and put _this_ configuration in my bottom row. The motorised faders seem to work even better than I imagined!
Great to see DROID getting more coverage. I've been using it for about 1.5 years. Sadly i couldn't get my hands on the motorfaders when i purchased the kit as they were out of stock, and i had concerns about my already tight power consumption being able to handle them. I've been super happy with the kit. What i feel it has helped me so much for is simplifying my ability to do transititions in the Eurorack environment. My only wish is that it had a few more CV or you could easily extend that ( NOTE : no just gates). This has replaced the need for so many utility modules for me - great value for money and really well thought out system.
Pardon my french, but this is fucking incredible! I thought the whole sequencer spiel was played out, after Modal brought as much "ordered chaos" as they could, but damn, this.. This really REALLY makes the sequencer an extention of ye ol' deck of keys. And it's so damn well integrated! I feel like there's doors opening up to actually having a good time jamming with a sequencer, without the idle hands syndrome. I thought for sure there wouldn't be anything new to be done to improve the user interface. I am so happy I'm wrong.. I'm saving up for this. Haven't played with it yet, but I can already tell this has earned it's place in the shitbox.
@@mylarmelodies To be honest, I think I name anything I own and (ab)use a shitbox. My car, my cheap rental place, my synth.. I uhh, I'm having kind of an epiphany here 🤣
Love a Mylar Melodies vid on Droid! Been using this for a couple of weeks now with SinfonionLink circuit. It has opened up my setup so much! Love Master18 input upgrade!
I'm looking at those faders and staring at my Ornaments & Crime. Then I'm looking over at my Disting... then I'm looking back at the screen. Having flying faders for the parameters of those modules would be kind of sick.
Nice one. I first became aware of the Droid system from Toby, the guy behind Neuzeit, who Helped on some of the Droid modules. Never dived deeply into the Droid, it seemed very complicated and I wasn't willing to dive in at the time. To see you demystify it... Yeah, very interesting for sure. Cheers
@@mylarmelodies the new Patch Generator makes it much easier, especially with the Motokit. But you can tweak it or use it as a starting point to build your dream sequencer and cv source for your modular system, as you said in the video. It’s very cool to build a custom sequencer. I have now a system tailored to my needs to jam and make music.
It's awesome but it's so hard justifying the price, I had the Droid setup before it got really well known and I found the sequences just all really sounded so similar and it didn't have much mojo, I use a nerdseq now which I absolutely love
Looks really nice and playable. Can you expand it in terms of number of channels? Where is the memory limit? Is in the B32 or Master18? Is everything step based or could you record continuous CV with the faders?
Love the Droid ecosystem. Held off on the motor faders as the capacitors (while they look huge) could stop working when needing a charge. Did you get a chance to push them (keep smashing random to see if charge is lost). Matthias is a genius! Loved the Sinfonion.
I never managed to max them out - they're set to the 350ma base voltage requirement in this little case (PSU is a Sinusoda Juice Lite), didn't seem to be an issue, but I guess your mileage may vary depending on how you wield them? You can always opt for a more powerful PSU and change the jumper settings so they draw more juice but go harder for longer(!)
The functionality is ace, but I would need more visual cues as to what it is doing. The motorized faders are cool, but how do I see what step I am on? I wonder if this could be built with the DROID E4 LED encoders at less cost?
Do you think it possible to generate sequences in the MotoKit and record them into the Squarp Hermod ? would be an amazing match to have a premium performance sequencer and a sequence ''recorder/playbacker'' (for porspuses as studio recording).
That thing is all nice and well but whats REALLY impressive to me is only Alex' sound design and feel for what sounds great together and which modulations go where.... your experience to dial in great sounds quickly. Which all happens behind the scenes. Alex you make it look like it was done in an afternoon... which can't be, can it? Right? I bow before your experience to dial-in sounds! Motorfaders are ok i guess.
Thanks so much m8 - this is basically the result of three sessions recording on this, each lasting about 3 hours, over two days (obviously a couple of days of messing around to teach myself the sequencer!). Obviously each jam is a lot longer in reality and I truncate it for efficiency/flow in the edit! But I basically settled on a collection of four voices which worked well together - Two RYK Algos, Rings in Strings mode (it's a little digital and bright but it worked in a pinch) a Doepfer A-111-6, and an ARP2600 - so two digital, two analog. The music is definitely the result of listening to a lot of Aphex and Electro music and messing around with gear for 25 years! I've actually done videos on nearly all the parts that made sound in this if you're interested (RYK Algo most recently). FWIW the setup was: 2 x RYK Algo Mutable Instruments Rings in Strings mode (for strings) ARP2600 (chords, softer bass) Doepfer A-111-6 (basses, acid) Befaco Hexmix (mixer) Tiptop Z5000 (reverb) Make Noise Mimeophon for delay) 6m0d6 On kick, Tiptop 808SN on Snare thru a Music Thing Minidrive, Soundforce Samples II on hats and clap. Tiptop Trigger Riot as a Drum Sequencer Happy Nerding 4xMutes to mute the drums
@@mylarmelodies Thanks for your nice answer and insights. The Dopfer111-6 is like a miniature Arturia microbrute, or nanobrute. I wish you a good trip and stay in Germany should you happen to visit Superbooth24.
@@mylarmelodies loved the bit where you panned up to reveal the arp2600 resting (dare i say precariously looking!?) on top of the modular case, like a king!👑 😂
Is it really worth ~$1,400. when I can buy a Hermond+ and a midi control with sliders to record modulation for less than half that? Motorized sliders are cool, but really neccessary? Convince me otherwise.
The point here is more that the Hermod works a certain way and will never really be able to change. That way might become deeply linked with how you personally want to work and so it’s the better choice for you. But if you found yourself in a rut with it, or that you suddenly had some inspiration as to how it COULD work, then there is nothing you can do about it. That is not the case with Droid.
The Patch Generator can be changed too so I believe it will be possible to generate a MFPS with different modules, namely the E4. The Motorised Faders are very nice though, I couldn’t wish for more (erm other than another two sets, but this is enough for now!!)
@mylarmelodies Hi! Amazing demo. Is it possible to send midi to 4 x synths via DIN Midi? I can see 4 x midi outs… I think. Also - could a hub be connected to the usb c port to send midi to multiple midi devices via USB ?
I haven’t touched the MIDI stuff at all and honestly am not sure how it works, but I’m reliably assured it does, so you could be using MIDI output for some or all of the channels, you use a 3.5mm jack to DIN MIDI adapter
The Master18 module doesn't appear to be available on the website yet. Just the full set. Hopefully it becomes available individually for those that already own other modules
So making modules for making modules. If we go deeper and start patching diy chips and manipulating molecules and atoms and then one day suddenly BOOOM! I would vote for not going smaller than what we can see because what we can't see is dangerous. And motorized faders, I vote for that too.
I asked Mathias and he said these are ALPS faders (which is a very well respected brand), he doesn’t think there are better models you can get in the format required. And that so far zero failures reported. The M4 has been out since late 2022.
the only thing I'd be concerned about if I had spare rackspace and some money to burn would be how easy it might be to get lost and not know which page you're on at a glance. Can anyone with a DROID system speak to how much of an issue this is? (I don't really feel like going onto the wiggler forums)
I love this, but at the same time, it is the price of a deluge, which leaves me thinking that a midi>CV could be the bridge to emulate all of the above
I admire the time and effort for all this modular electronics mayhem. But controversially isn’t this for all people who didn’t go to music school to learn an instrument and music theory?! 😂 for what is lacking in music ability is often offset in electronic engineering prowess and synthesis theory.
interesting concept, but i really have never trusted motor faders... and never will.. they always fail despite the price of the product.. and then they really become a pain in the ass to fix.. so I'm a bit biased, but intertesting nonetheless!
@@mylarmelodies ofc! I just have horrible experiences /w a mixing desk and korg stuff thats impossible to replace yourself or even at service... you happen to know what motors they use? good thing w modular tho you just have to rep the slider board!
Interesting notion. Unfortunately, the first occurrence of the word "software" was my signal to exit. Years of experience makes it clear, "software" equals "abandon-ware". That ticking you hear isn't the metronome - it's the TTD ("time-to-death") clock. Hard pass for me.
I understand the concern but worth noting this works out of the box without ever needing a computer being connected. And if you wanted to continue actively developing patches for Droid in future, I think it’s not unreasonable to have an old laptop kept in a drawer for that purpose. I can still program my Nord Modular with their software editor and that came out in the late nineties.
Sighs. .. it's cool but I hate having to go to a computer for updates and changing the entire module with software. Some people love it I guess. But software drives me nuts.
@@Rareos That's right. You can customize it. But that's completely optional. All you see in the video is done with the sequencer as it comes out of the box, with no computer being involved at any stage.
@@mylarmelodies Good deal! I love the size of the sliders (not knobs). I am from Southern California and we dont understand modular the way we potentially could down here.
I had such a good time watching this - seems you had fun filming. Thanks for pointing out that altering the patch or using it as a starting point for building an individualized sequencer is doable and totally makes sense. I slimmed down the default patch (generated by the patch generator inside the DROID Forge) by 1 track and freed some RAM to work with. I then added another B32 (32 button matrix) and an E4 (4 encoders) to put an algoquencer circuit to use as 4 track 16 step drum sequencer with plenty of features. Of course it does polyrhythms and polymetrics each track separately and is intuitive to use. The four tracks are colour coded, which reflects in the LED meters surrounding the E4s, so when performing in darkness I'm always properly informed, which drum track I'm working with at the moment. I should say that I'm using a DROID Master + X7 + G8 setup to have enough gate outputs to serve my drum tracks and the voice tracks of the MFPS. It's a space ship command center and performing is just so much more fun.
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@MoritzScharf Morris can you do a video of how to do the modifications to a MOTO kit to achieve the 4 track 16 step drum sequencer ?
Greetings to all of you and thanks for this great video, Alex! I had really fun watching it and enjoyed your great diversity of music styles that you've produced with this sequencer.
It's starting to look like we want chained submasters ;). Honestly, I'm so impressed by the way you've evolved this system!
@dermannmitdermaschine thank you for making this. I purchased 4x M4 motor fader controllers and the other modules in the bundled kit previously before the MOTO KIT was released. Can I buy the stickers separately since I already own the parts on the MOTO KIT? Can I also request instructions for accessing "patch generator" in Droid Forge that makes the button layout and setup simple and easy to configure?
This is very cool!
I'm wondering what the potential is for pattern memory? I can imagine this with a whole other B23 dedicated to patterns/scenes/presets (perhaps with chaining or even "clip launch" style grid quantization), though Mylar mentioned that it may be at the limits of it's memory? Perhaps can be overcome via the card slot?
@@CmJr328
You can by a stickerset on his website
@@CmJr328Yes you can. Stickers are available in our shop. You can generate the patch, even with four M4 yourself in the Forge. You need version 1.5. And the manual includes everything
I'll probably never own a single piece of modular gear but that won't stop me from admiring the time, effort, research and development it took to create these cool pieces of hardware. Cool stuff
I know the feeling😅 Love watching all that stuff working together and the ingenuity of the people designing and making stuff - not to mention making music on it. I do have some semi-modular stuff though....😬
Hey, awesome you are covering this! Really enjoying the DROID ecosystem :)
Thanks and great to meet you the other day!!
@@mylarmelodies Likewise! Superbooth is mostly a meeting of people for me, and verry happy to have spoken to a bunch of people I hadn't before. All the best!
If there are any Sinfonion users out there: What's not mentioned in the Video: You can attach this as a follower to a Sinfonion, so the sequencer follows all the root notes / scale changes (chord changes) of the Sinfonion.
Amazing. Is this done in the same way you connect multiple Sinfonions?
@@BrailleSounds Yes, it uses the same method of connecting.
Wow!
Thats awesome
I got maybe the only one Sinfonion in Mexico, and im waiting that the Moto Kit is again available in your site for purchasing it!
i was scratching my head if i would need 'both' devices but as you mentioned MotoK performance sequencer can follow Sinfonion i may wish to keep it and pair them.
Im using Percussa SSP as sound source for stacking voices for chords and some monophonic ones generated inside the module .
Hope you can makea video of Moto Kit working besides Sinfonion !
Mathias, you really knocked it out of the park. What a time to be alive !!
It’s a huge world and this is the funkiest intro one could wish for I feel the droid !
It is a huge world indeed, defo it works for me that this is a “finished”/off the shelf package. That said I’m definitely going to see how I can tweak it.
A vid on the possibilities of the system would be like making Lord of the Rings, but I’d like to see it!!
What approach did you take when you designed your system?
What a great demo of the DROID system and the Motokit in particular. And the demo sounds very like Mylarmelodies, what I like. I had the chance to test the Motokit as well and my stuff sounds totally different. My configuration of the Motor Fader Performance Sequenzer (MFPS) is a bit different to the default settings. I added more steps per voice (32) and the ability to play chords on one track and removed a voice to have space for drum (like mention in the video Moritz did) and root note sequencing. So you can really customise the DROID to make it fit your needs. I use DROID for sequencing everything (melodies, drums and chord progression) for some time now. I build my own patches (also have video on this on TH-cam). But this MFPS for the Motokit is very feature rich and well thought out. I will keep some of the core features in my DROID patches for sure. Thanks for sharing this long demo.
Thanks for this m8, it’s really interesting to see the ways the MFPS could be customised - that sounds fantastic. I had also thought to have a channel spare as a “chord progression” track - shifting the root note! Will speak to you at superbooth I’m sure about this, looking forward
@@mylarmelodies see you at Superbooth. 👋
I'm also exploring the Droid System at the moment and love it so far. So many possibilities, extremely flexible and the faders are just pure fun to use 🙌🙌
matthis kettner is a genius. he did a tremendous job with his sinfonion ( which will never leave my system ) and now this. almost all his moules are under top ten modules on modular grid. i mean this is really a work of a genius. now with the editor...... crazy good. if you touch these faders once, you don't want to touch anything else. i swear!!!
ps:
fucking love you alex!
That is awesome. Love that you dive in this crazy niche products and show it to us. I feel like 20 years young even watching this.
The best feedback. Thanks
Aseeeeed! Quartet and the end of Forlorn Acid are incredibly funky, its like all of Warp/Rephlex/Planet Mu in one set of modules and 20 hand picked synths, very enjoyable, well done sir
You always do such a great job learning and explaining the complexities of the tools you use, but my favorite thing by far about your explorations is how smart and cool and funky the musicality of it all is. You're a gd treasure to the community
Thank you m8
God that Stinson Acid section is amazing, really deserving of the name
Oh shit also that AFX bass section, that bassline screams The Tuss
This is so much fun to watch. I am almost tempted to buy one of these sets myself. Looks even more fun to design something like this myself but then I recognize the amount of work and knowledge that was put into designing this. Let's not forget that you can add more - and different - controllers and expanders if you like. I especially love the force feedback/detent style of the motor faders.
Loving the jams as always. What amazing creativity from the maker and the player! Nice one guys.🤟
Oh yes! Another one of your super entertaining and informative videos!!! Gotta love it 😁. I'd been hooked already by your HYPNO demo to get one. And this is at least as good, so I am just a little envious of the motorfaders, but I'm already happily patching my own sequencer and more with a DROID with encoder modules. The DROID gives you so much freedom and at the same time musical functionality to work with.
Colour me jealous. I've been a fan of Der Mann for some time, but I almost feel I wish I was hearing about it for the first time now-so I could run out and put _this_ configuration in my bottom row. The motorised faders seem to work even better than I imagined!
Great to see DROID getting more coverage. I've been using it for about 1.5 years. Sadly i couldn't get my hands on the motorfaders when i purchased the kit as they were out of stock, and i had concerns about my already tight power consumption being able to handle them. I've been super happy with the kit. What i feel it has helped me so much for is simplifying my ability to do transititions in the Eurorack environment. My only wish is that it had a few more CV or you could easily extend that ( NOTE : no just gates). This has replaced the need for so many utility modules for me - great value for money and really well thought out system.
Awesome review! Thanks for taking the time to give the Motoquencer the depth it deserves 👍
The TH-cam AI threw me this video a bit late in the game, but wow.... Thanks for such a detailed dive. What an incredible device.
Very cool. Price = OUCH!
Pardon my french, but this is fucking incredible! I thought the whole sequencer spiel was played out, after Modal brought as much "ordered chaos" as they could, but damn, this.. This really REALLY makes the sequencer an extention of ye ol' deck of keys. And it's so damn well integrated! I feel like there's doors opening up to actually having a good time jamming with a sequencer, without the idle hands syndrome. I thought for sure there wouldn't be anything new to be done to improve the user interface. I am so happy I'm wrong.. I'm saving up for this. Haven't played with it yet, but I can already tell this has earned it's place in the shitbox.
😂 Thanks, and BTW The Shitbox is a great name for a modular
@@mylarmelodies To be honest, I think I name anything I own and (ab)use a shitbox. My car, my cheap rental place, my synth.. I uhh, I'm having kind of an epiphany here 🤣
Love a Mylar Melodies vid on Droid! Been using this for a couple of weeks now with SinfonionLink circuit. It has opened up my setup so much! Love Master18 input upgrade!
Ahh mazin, what sort of control/sequencing setup have you made?
I'm looking at those faders and staring at my Ornaments & Crime. Then I'm looking over at my Disting... then I'm looking back at the screen. Having flying faders for the parameters of those modules would be kind of sick.
Motorized faders are always a welcome addition!
Thank you ever so much for your track Musikvideo! A masterpiece!
this is wild
Oh no you might finally push me over the droid edge...
Nice one. I first became aware of the Droid system from Toby, the guy behind Neuzeit, who Helped on some of the Droid modules.
Never dived deeply into the Droid, it seemed very complicated and I wasn't willing to dive in at the time. To see you demystify it... Yeah, very interesting for sure. Cheers
Yep I too don't think I would see myself building a sequencer from scratch, it's very cool that you don't have to!
Glad to hear that :-)
I already use Teletype and Grid as my DIY nothing is impossible sequencer, otherwise I would jump on this immediately!
finally, motofaders! In Eurorack!!
This looks totally mental!!!
You seem to feature the Buchla 200 series a lot in your racks as well, i can't rate them highly enough!
It is totally mental. I love the DROID system. And this bundle is an easy entry.
Ha it is quite the package - I’m super new to it too, the possibilities if you mastered it (both the MFPS and Droid Forge) are quite bewildering.
@@mylarmelodies the new Patch Generator makes it much easier, especially with the Motokit. But you can tweak it or use it as a starting point to build your dream sequencer and cv source for your modular system, as you said in the video. It’s very cool to build a custom sequencer. I have now a system tailored to my needs to jam and make music.
Absolutely fantastic
Very nice.
Droid ❤
It's awesome but it's so hard justifying the price, I had the Droid setup before it got really well known and I found the sequences just all really sounded so similar and it didn't have much mojo, I use a nerdseq now which I absolutely love
Looks really nice and playable. Can you expand it in terms of number of channels? Where is the memory limit? Is in the B32 or Master18? Is everything step based or could you record continuous CV with the faders?
There's so much more here than this but man...motorized faders are so cool.
Great video, and very good tunes !
cool idea but really skeptical about using stickers.
Crikey! That looks like loads of fun!!! Is that a Speak&Spell that is cheekily sitting to left of your On Air sign?
It is!! And ha yes, circuit bent no less by circuitbenders.co.uk (I think - must have had it for like 15+ years)
Love the Droid ecosystem. Held off on the motor faders as the capacitors (while they look huge) could stop working when needing a charge. Did you get a chance to push them (keep smashing random to see if charge is lost). Matthias is a genius! Loved the Sinfonion.
I never managed to max them out - they're set to the 350ma base voltage requirement in this little case (PSU is a Sinusoda Juice Lite), didn't seem to be an issue, but I guess your mileage may vary depending on how you wield them? You can always opt for a more powerful PSU and change the jumper settings so they draw more juice but go harder for longer(!)
This is very cool.
Watching Alex‘ videos is always bad for my GAS, so I refuse to watch this one. Could get expensive otherwise 😂… but I guess, it’s awesome
Just watch it. It has great music inside.
24:15 He says "...lets have a look at the lusty patterns". Nothing can convince me otherwise. 😢
The functionality is ace, but I would need more visual cues as to what it is doing. The motorized faders are cool, but how do I see what step I am on? I wonder if this could be built with the DROID E4 LED encoders at less cost?
There’s a little chase light running along the bottom!
Do you think it possible to generate sequences in the MotoKit and record them into the Squarp Hermod ? would be an amazing match to have a premium performance sequencer and a sequence ''recorder/playbacker'' (for porspuses as studio recording).
yes it outputs MIDI! I think that should be possible?
That thing is all nice and well but whats REALLY impressive to me is only Alex' sound design and feel for what sounds great together and which modulations go where.... your experience to dial in great sounds quickly. Which all happens behind the scenes. Alex you make it look like it was done in an afternoon... which can't be, can it? Right? I bow before your experience to dial-in sounds! Motorfaders are ok i guess.
Thanks so much m8 - this is basically the result of three sessions recording on this, each lasting about 3 hours, over two days (obviously a couple of days of messing around to teach myself the sequencer!). Obviously each jam is a lot longer in reality and I truncate it for efficiency/flow in the edit! But I basically settled on a collection of four voices which worked well together - Two RYK Algos, Rings in Strings mode (it's a little digital and bright but it worked in a pinch) a Doepfer A-111-6, and an ARP2600 - so two digital, two analog. The music is definitely the result of listening to a lot of Aphex and Electro music and messing around with gear for 25 years! I've actually done videos on nearly all the parts that made sound in this if you're interested (RYK Algo most recently).
FWIW the setup was:
2 x RYK Algo
Mutable Instruments Rings in Strings mode (for strings)
ARP2600 (chords, softer bass)
Doepfer A-111-6 (basses, acid)
Befaco Hexmix (mixer)
Tiptop Z5000 (reverb)
Make Noise Mimeophon for delay)
6m0d6 On kick, Tiptop 808SN on Snare thru a Music Thing Minidrive, Soundforce Samples II on hats and clap.
Tiptop Trigger Riot as a Drum Sequencer
Happy Nerding 4xMutes to mute the drums
@@mylarmelodies Thanks for your nice answer and insights. The Dopfer111-6 is like a miniature Arturia microbrute, or nanobrute. I wish you a good trip and stay in Germany should you happen to visit Superbooth24.
@@mylarmelodies loved the bit where you panned up to reveal the arp2600 resting (dare i say precariously looking!?) on top of the modular case, like a king!👑 😂
Gorgeous! But super expensive unfortunately. This kit is 1500€.
jesasss. option paralysis attac. aaaargh. genius. the music lies in the interface.
Is it really worth ~$1,400. when I can buy a Hermond+ and a midi control with sliders to record modulation for less than half that? Motorized sliders are cool, but really neccessary? Convince me otherwise.
The point here is more that the Hermod works a certain way and will never really be able to change. That way might become deeply linked with how you personally want to work and so it’s the better choice for you. But if you found yourself in a rut with it, or that you suddenly had some inspiration as to how it COULD work, then there is nothing you can do about it. That is not the case with Droid.
I wonder the same thing. I have some Droid gear, but I drew the line at the motor faders.
The Patch Generator can be changed too so I believe it will be possible to generate a MFPS with different modules, namely the E4. The Motorised Faders are very nice though, I couldn’t wish for more (erm other than another two sets, but this is enough for now!!)
What is creating the acid sound in a lot of the videos. Good squidge.
Doepfer A-111-6!! It’s a squidger
@mylarmelodies Hi! Amazing demo. Is it possible to send midi to 4 x synths via DIN Midi? I can see 4 x midi outs… I think. Also - could a hub be connected to the usb c port to send midi to multiple midi devices via USB
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I haven’t touched the MIDI stuff at all and honestly am not sure how it works, but I’m reliably assured it does, so you could be using MIDI output for some or all of the channels, you use a 3.5mm jack to DIN MIDI adapter
@@mylarmelodies Cheers dude!
The Master18 module doesn't appear to be available on the website yet. Just the full set. Hopefully it becomes available individually for those that already own other modules
I believe it will - watch this space!
Abouts 1 or 2 months it will be on the website
Are there ways to save projects? Save sequences? Say I come up with a sequence I like can that session be saved?
Yes, there are 3 presets where you can save all aspects of a track. They are saved to the SD card.
So making modules for making modules. If we go deeper and start patching diy chips and manipulating molecules and atoms and then one day suddenly BOOOM! I would vote for not going smaller than what we can see because what we can't see is dangerous. And motorized faders, I vote for that too.
Are motorized faders reliable long term?
I asked Mathias and he said these are ALPS faders (which is a very well respected brand), he doesn’t think there are better models you can get in the format required. And that so far zero failures reported. The M4 has been out since late 2022.
Thank you good sir, best possible answer.
the only thing I'd be concerned about if I had spare rackspace and some money to burn would be how easy it might be to get lost and not know which page you're on at a glance. Can anyone with a DROID system speak to how much of an issue this is? (I don't really feel like going onto the wiggler forums)
27:30 is sick! and 37:10
I love this, but at the same time, it is the price of a deluge, which leaves me thinking that a midi>CV could be the bridge to emulate all of the above
I hear great things about the Deluge, lot of love for it
@@mylarmelodies but you are not wrong in that mechanical, physical tactile faders just have something magical about them,
Is this the same Mathias that created the synphonion ? ACL ?
Yes! In fact you can hook this up to a Sinfonion!!
I admire the time and effort for all this modular electronics mayhem. But controversially isn’t this for all people who didn’t go to music school to learn an instrument and music theory?! 😂 for what is lacking in music ability is often offset in electronic engineering prowess and synthesis theory.
Believe it or not, but the guy who invented this thing is a jazz musician.
interesting concept, but i really have never trusted motor faders... and never will.. they always fail despite the price of the product.. and then they really become a pain in the ass to fix.. so I'm a bit biased, but intertesting nonetheless!
Can't speak for their lifespan - it's true that everything must die eventually, but also parts can also be desoldered and replaced, no?
@@mylarmelodies ofc! I just have horrible experiences /w a mixing desk and korg stuff thats impossible to replace yourself or even at service... you happen to know what motors they use? good thing w modular tho you just have to rep the slider board!
@@TheMorningIWokeUpDead Don't know the model number but they're ALPS ones! I would suspect a good part.
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And I thought the 303 had a complex UI/UX
Interesting notion. Unfortunately, the first occurrence of the word "software" was my signal to exit. Years of experience makes it clear, "software" equals "abandon-ware". That ticking you hear isn't the metronome - it's the TTD ("time-to-death") clock. Hard pass for me.
I understand the concern but worth noting this works out of the box without ever needing a computer being connected. And if you wanted to continue actively developing patches for Droid in future, I think it’s not unreasonable to have an old laptop kept in a drawer for that purpose. I can still program my Nord Modular with their software editor and that came out in the late nineties.
modular modular
Ha, and even more so: 4mscompany.com/metamodule_preview.php 🤯
You reading my mind or something?
Really excellent demo @mylarmelodies; really spectacular.
Sighs. .. it's cool but I hate having to go to a computer for updates and changing the entire module with software. Some people love it I guess. But software drives me nuts.
This sequencer is ready to use, without any computer (unless you want to change the MIDI channels, if you use MIDI at all).
@@DerMannmitderMaschine indeed but the comment is referring to the need to use the computer to customize it.
@@Rareos That's right. You can customize it. But that's completely optional. All you see in the video is done with the sequencer as it comes out of the box, with no computer being involved at any stage.
@@DerMannmitderMaschine yes and both myself and the original comment haven't conveyed otherwise.
What would you prefer to use to customise it?
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the knobs move on their own and look cool but i dont like how it requires spending a great deal of time learning one module.
It took me two days to learn this, it's got a good manual and is quite logical once you learn how Mathias designed it
@@mylarmelodies Good deal! I love the size of the sliders (not knobs). I am from Southern California and we dont understand modular the way we potentially could down here.
like a chicken! thank the maker(s).
🐓 chickenfunk acid
and it's only $1500!
If you buy this instead of the OP-1 Field, you still have $500 left over!
I don't want to know how much all those parts cost collectively lol
definitely one of those things you should never sit down and work out 💸
No, sorry but no.
i like the idea, but the user interface is completely and very confusing to me. And i'm allergic to anything with motor faders.
Well, whole point is you can build your own custom sequencer/whatever - without motorised faders if you wished