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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ค. 2024
- What's better than 1 excalibur? 2 excaliburs. Today I'll be talking about S Alisa Echo 's playstyle, ascensions, weapons and harmonization upgrade system, builds, her cub, team setups, and build and pull recommendations.
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0:00 Introduction and Overview
0:35 How to Obtain
0:51 How to Play / Playstyle & Rotation
2:12 Rank Upgrades
3:08 Weapons, Harmonization, and Builds
7:12 Team Setups
7:26 Pet/CUB
7:47 Pull/Build Recommendations
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Best cop Alisa drops on the 16th! Thanks for watching!
Harmonization builds for each team:
www.notion.so/spider2b/Harmonization-Builds-Alisa-Patch-49352035edb04146be33301fe2dbce3f
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Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction and Overview
0:35 How to Obtain
0:51 How to Play / Playstyle & Rotation
2:12 Rank Upgrades
3:08 Weapons, Harmonization, and Builds
7:12 Team Setups
7:26 Pet/CUB
7:47 Pull/Build Recommendations
dorm currency goes up to 300k? ive been keeping it at 10k afraid to cap out, just buying hypertune mats!!! wtf!!!
holy!! meta will change the freak out of the world.. a ton of changes.. omg.. here comes a new age..
Damn, no non meta unit harmonization in the notion? I need to know noctis harmonization 😞
... Will you ever talk about Alisa dps or she can't be as a dps like Vera Garnet(tank) with different build?
@@mwx5314they increased the CAP in Crimson weave patch
@@diostone6975 i have noctis SSS+, he is NOT good.. sadly.. lets just wait for a noctis S rank.. maybe then he will be useful..
Thank you Liv Luminance, you have served me well
You have earned your rest
I love Alisa, especially when she yells loud enough to blow my brain away before bonking me with her excalibruh. 10/10 character.
No more crit malding 🙏
We always crit in this household 🙏
What's that?
@@roycephantom9053 Physical characters can crit. It means that they have a certain % of chance of doing double the damage.
But without external buffs, character have like 25% chances of criting which is very very low.
And criting increases the damage so much that you absolutely need to crit to have good scores. So on Bianca Abystigmata you will reset mutliple timed your run, until you get good rng where you crit on almost all your hits of her burst.
Thanks to Alisa you will always have 100% crit.
@@jijidu69Is there a way to see exactly how much crit a character has ?
@@DelusionalMf618 every 100 crit on your character stats page, you gain 3 crit rate I believe.
All this years, you are my to go to PGR guide CC. Thank you so much for staying with the community.
Thanks for watching all these years
@@Spider2B Will continually support you bro! We all are in this together!
@@Spider2B You are amazing, thank you for carrying the community with all your hard work.
Wait did something happen?
Spider2B character guide this early? Ain't no way.
I truly wish there was a way to get 6* weapons over time. I’ve been managing pretty well with only the 5* weapons, but now with the Harmonization feature, it seems like it’s going to be even more important to have the 6* weapons.
Maybe they’ll add it soon with all these big updates coming
@@AlaynaGeeee maybe, but "soon" is at best more than a year away, since afaik there's nothing on CN that would make getting 6* weapons easier:/
There's the recent CN change of 100% rate on the weapon banner. Other than that, there's not much help.
@@Vios__honestly, that's better than nothing, cuz all this time we've been gambling for those sigweaps. 70% might seem like a guranteed but the moment you lose to the 30% you feel your soul drain😂
Pretty much this, weapons being 80% chance is fricked and if you go f2p you basically can't get them as you have to save BC so you can get the newer characters that come next patch. It's cool that we have this feature but I basically have only 3 six star weapons and I've been playing f2p since the starting week of the game.
It was already bad how sig weapons were more and more mandatory cause they put part of the character in it and now this harmony thing literally adding 2 memory slots but only on 6* ofc... Really sad day
Is it really that much to ask to spend $5 for the monthly bc pack? It gives enough to pull a 6 star.
Phenomenal. Thanks a ton for explaining Alisa. My Bianca and Rosetta will be very happy having a new member on the team.
Amazing guide as always, you included tips I didn't know I wanted until you listed them.
Thanks as always man! I'm always looking forward to your guides every patch ever since I started playing during Luna's patch. 😂
Wish you well!
Fire guide as always Spider 2B!! I really love bow characters in games!
Her 6* bow Astraea really fits, woah! I love that attention to detail considering her bow is the name of the Greek figure; the Goddess of Justice
Thanks for the guide! Its great that she's free! Also good to know on the Harmonization system too.
Thanks for the early Alisa Echo guide, Spider 2B!
I've been saving my BC to get Lamia and Bianca on Lamia's patch so this was a huge help! I'm really liking Alisa's design, she looks great! I especially like her Excalibur-esque Ultimate.
Thankfully, we can get Alisa for free so I don't have to worry too much. As for her weapon, however, I think I'll have to prioritize Lamia and Bianca's weapons first before I get hers, especially since I'm also saving for if Bianca's Solitary Dreams coating gets a rerun.
6:20 such a good thing to hear. I've been keeping that Ramiel in my inventory for months now and I don't even know why. Glad to know I still get to keep saving for Lamia and Scire's sfx skin
Tyvm for dropping the guide spideee you are the 🐐
Thanks for the video!
Thank you for the guide, very helpfull always
I’m so glad I kept on doing the commissions after Ayla’s patch, I can keep on saving my bc for lamia😁
the absulote GOAT of pgr guides. ty my sir
only two more patches until i wont have any more scuffed teams i cant wait, alisa will be replacing my hanying and then i'll get lamia and dark karen(from the 100% standard banner) to complete the dark team.
Karen is good, but she is very annoying to use if she isn't SS3
@@ohreally6945 she can always work as a pure qte bot if you don't want to invest too much in her.
Been using Watanabe for so long. I'm finally going to be able to do Dark warzone sessions without dropping out of hero 95% of the time. Lol
Kinda similar, Alisa will replace Hanging, but since all my teams except Lightning are scuffed (haven't played from the Rosetta patch till Ice Ayla), I'll prob go for Stigmata, and ofc get dark Lamia. That way I'll have 3 teams and once I get Fire Uncle I'll have a decent fire team as well. Can't wait!
Man I came at the right time; free S Rank selector to get Bianca: Stigmata, got Rosetta and her 6* weapon in GUIDE, then her. Though I must admit I regret to play this game much too late but I'm glad I gave it a go.
Going all out for alisa!!!
love your guide❤
Yay Alisa! I’m running low on bc and I need to save for Lamia patch + onwards so mine will be trapped using the random Bianca: Zero sig I have laying around 🫠 at least the passive reduces physical res shred and can harmonize so it’s not worthless…
Using orie's theme for the guide of another stand character i see you sir 10/10
feeling excluded because i don't have stigmata and ny alisa is gonna buff my crimson abyss 😭
Hey that's just more motivation!
Same. 😭
more power
Score is temporary, motivation in eternal
Spider just did a speedrun guide, Its almost like he's running from the cop Alisa 😂
Thank you for the content as always ❤
STANDO POWAH
Finally alissa❤
No one can stop me from having an SSS Alisa and making her the DPS 😤
F the meta, I love her gameplay
Waiting room
Seems like i need second pyhis team set up since i can't replace mama hanying
Finally, phys with crit.
huge update niceeu
Let's go, my 500k dorm coin is ready 😂
Much helpful information Spider2B. What date does Alisa echo patch come out?
16th
I wonder where the 1200 mats go for harmonization. I only got the 25 but not the required mats to get the 2 pc effect
why is the lee powercreeping starting already with the harmonization Lee just cannot
poor lee anyway Thank you for the guide ♥
you remind me about per
Ayo based under night OST.
Long live blue haired upholders of justice with stands!
(Dayum! Now that I think about it, Orie and Alisa are pretty similar)
Is Philip II the recommended also good for Alisa? Because I've already maxed the mems out.
My Liv Eclipse is having a retirement party!
spider video Wokege
0.03 second after getting Alisa... Crit rate Stonks 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥
I'm a returner should i get alisa or ayla? I have all of the top characters for both teams i'm asking this because alisa memory set discounted this patch
Spider2B what is Alisa's buff in the warzone?
"Harmonize Lee first"...ok got it:))))
i saw all the text on her core passive and died inside a bit
Im planning to build alisa as dps, what memories should i use to maximise her dmg?
Nice early vid
I didn't know she was free and just pulled for her...lol. No regrets though, wouldn't have been able to clear the new gamemode without her. No.21 just doesn't work against that dragon boss
Really reminds me of hangaku from re creator
Yesss
2:30 Can unlock and equip any 2 6* 2 set bonus-
Me Spits out water: WhAT?
This must be the work of an enemy stand.
so basically Alisa will give you a "stand" buff huh, awesome
Can you help me to fix may pgr pc client, when it comes to in game resources it's only about 400mb+ it's always says download resources failed to download, my internet speed is okay idk what's the problem on my pgr
Official discord has a channel for game client help!
What should I harmonize on Liv amp? Your link only stated that U can harmonize later on but didn't mentioned the set
Guinavere or davinci usually
Thanks for the guide as always. As a new player, this recommendation makes me a little bit confused since every S rank characters that I saw from every PGR content creator, needs their signature weapon, but on the other hand F2P and new player alike can"t afford those sig weapon and double S isn't easy to get without paincage or sacrificing the pulls for the future constructs, does that mean I can just play with the most minimum build (Base S rank and regular 5* from CO-OP)?
Note: I've just played the game around 2 weeks.
PGR is VERY reliant on making you pul for the sig weapons. It's just not a F2p friendly game despite most of the people will be telling you so. Almost every new construct are heavily reliant on their signature weapons to be 'usable'. No sig weapon for your Empyrea and Feral? Good luck, now they are only QTE bots that you will only see when you press the QTE button for 2 seconds of animation. That's why Kuro baits people by making the featured event banner %100 rate and making the Signature Weapon banner 80/20. Still better odds then mosf of gacha despite it feeling like 50/50 sometimes (Yes I lost, twice.) It won't be easy or require you to save for many many months before you are able to get a signature weapon as a f2p. If you are not afraid of dropping a few bucks on monthly/BP passes though, it doesn't cost you that much (depends on where you live, economically), and you can grab some weapons that way.
@@banjokazuya2913 I see, would you say that with monthly card, can you afford the debut S-Rank + their Sig weapon everytime, or partially? thanks.
usually everytime with monthly yeah
PGR is nowhere near as f2p as some other gachas, but it's also in a way far more f2p then most other gachas as you can as f2p get every single future unit by simply playing. You won't be competitive, but you will be able to experience all the content of the game. Does it really matter that you can't kill the same boss as you previously fought, but that boss has 500% more hp?
PGR story, music and characters are peak, the combat is really good too. But there's many games with just as good combat, but very few games with an such banger of a story.
undernight music detected❗️
haha a man of culture
that intro tho😂
Can't wait for giga chad Watanabe patch.
what is the community event to get the skin ??
can you explain What if I Harmonize her main set (Signa) what a difference between phillip and davinci Harmonize when signature set is essential to use. in this case i can switch between phillip and davinci if i want, and if i have material to Hypertune. but if i harmonize Davinci that mean i can only use Davinci 4set or 2davinci+2phillip with Signatureset.
Short answer:
You usually always want davinci over Philip, philip is only for budget builds.
Long answer:
Due to Alisa's qte giving the crit buff you want to procc her qte as much as possible which means 4 davinci is crucial for 100% crit uptime.
Spider I see you with the Orie Theme (Purity and Strictly). Why didn't I make the connection?
so for f2p, is not worth pulling for alisa with BC. because the min stopping point is at SS that can easily get from PPC?
Yeah, buy her from dorm shop. Next character is gonna be disgustingly strong. You wanna get the whole package, including the pet.
As f2p, you can just farm her purely from dorm currency and bp vouchers.
Quick question: is it worth getting Ayla kaleido from the dorms now and wait till i save enough for Alisa cuz she's staying in the dorm's shop for quiet some time or should i save the currency for Alisa and get her as soon as she drops?
Note that I'm a new player and started during the final days of N.21 feral patch.
I think it just depends on which team you want to focus on more or needs more improvement, Ayla basically carries the ice team for now so if you don’t have plume it might be worth to get ayla , if you want to buff your physical team then alisa is better to get
Alisa. Assuming you followed most advice around, you would have got Rossetta and her weapon from the S Selector in the beginer missions. Then get Bianca Stigmata from the 100% rate up banner during anniversery. You should have enough BC if youve been doing story and modes like cursed waves and Recatitativo Di Fantasia. That way you have the full meta physical team. If you picked Plume, Alya is better as Plume cannot solo like other S ranks and Alya needs someone to swap off to when she runs out of orbs. If you are lacking Plume by the time you unlock Alya, get Bambinata. Plume isn't strong enough to warrant BC spent on her and the standard banner selector is better used on either when they release Qu Pavo or Wantanabe Epitaph. If you picked anyone else, I can't help you.
@@Wilmadiamond thanks for the advice guys! I've made up my mind. It's safe to go for Alisa since I'm willing to get Stigmata anyway, plus i already have Rosetta and her signature following the guides like u just said, so yeah that'll make Alisa the last puzzle piece.
Spider 2b im currently level 36
Do u think i can get alisa when she launch?
isnt bianca ment to be played as an hyper carry so isnt it a damage loss for phy team?
I'm stuck at what to do in PGR, been going at it for a month now, my best team is really bad, with Alpha, Liv Luminance, and, No.21 as a Tank, their elements doesn't match up I know but, I reached lvl 60+ because of them and idk what to do anymore.
which is better? ss luminance or s alisa?
I guess not even CN has any info on why the game says that the weapon harmonization has multiple levels, guess they just haven't figured out what to do with them, is my guess at any rate.
No more overwork for liv anymore.
When is she coming?
Why do you place Philipp II or DaVinci both on the top row? Wouldn't it be in both ways be more optimal to have them in the bottom row, since (according to the gray ravens website) DaVinci and Philipp II have both higher attack-stats than Signa? Am I missing something?
Not a massive difference but yeah you can put it bottom row. It's like a 1% diff in damage.
@@Spider2Balright, thank you! :)
I have a question is the harmonization event permanent or nah?
When they give the next s rank selector?
Or did they give one recently?
I just came back to the game
next patch, its more like standard banner selector
Ty
so if i understand this right
it costs 25 harmonizer bottles to unlock weapon harmonization
it costs 1200 resource shop currency to unlock 1 memory ONLY for that weapon
if i want to change the memory i need to pay 1200 for a new one and i can freely swap between them
is this correct?
yup
Does the SS3 Karen harmonization build apply to SSS too ?
Could i just slap on Ein harmonization for my 4 Boone 2 Conde for general use ?
You just KNOW I got 100000 commision shards
🛐🛐🛐
Hmmm I'm not sure how man dorm stuff I have left 😅
Is it okay to use 2 piece philip? cause I've already Upgraded them but I still didn't resonate them.
only if you cannot harmonize her atm
who is my carry in my budget physical team?
Team:
Hanying (A), Kamui (A), Alisa
Hanying with alisa as sub dps
So i have using Leeuwenhoek on bianca stigmata so should i harmonize it or change it to cottie then harmonize? It will be a great help if u tell
Cottie now
@@Spider2B okay thx for help
That community event, is it permanent event or limited? Im actually new
limited
@@Spider2B thank you
lol you named the griffin peter 😂
Chat thinks of good names...at least most if time 😂
So should i actually pull her or buy all the shards from the BP shop ? (i've been buying all the BPs since it released pretty much and i feel like i have too many currency i will never use lol)
Depends on how many black cards you got. But if you do pull, pull first and use bp vouchers to rank up.
Yeah like Ayla and Selena pretty much, got about 72k bc but a ton of BP currency as well so I can't really decide xD would be cool to save BC for later patches especially when things are going to get spicy down the road, maybe I will wait and calculate how many BP currency I actually need for SSS
Spider2B post rework question White stigmata Patton remains 4x cottie or will 4x Patton be played?
You could run 4 patton but i just like the versatility of 4 cottie much more, esp for paincage
@@Spider2Bit was to get your opinion, I agree with you for the 4x cottie on white because it eliminates the dead time after the first bust, but after Hanying will the rotation of bianca remain 3 bursts or does it drop to 2? One last thing about 21 feral I play it with the 2x cottie together with its set in your video you said that ss3 inferior you use the ulti resonance instead on gray raven the site recommends the core resonance what do you recommend? But harmonized existence or Geneva? will you make a video to show how white performs post leap in warzone?
Can you use her with units that aren’t physical, I just got her and crimson weave back to back
for healing kinda, but otherwise she doesnt bring much to the lightning team
I gor a question yall, is balters snowy petals coatign rerunning soon?
Yes. Iirc its BRS patch
I just started playing 40 days ago. I feel like any unit I could get is probably going to be powercrept when I'm at the point they are well built 😢
Just get the latest units, even if your f2p, you can get every single new unit that comes out. I've been playing for around 2.5 months and was so blown away with how absurdly good the story, music and characters in this game are.
@@zealgaming8161 how to earn black tickets in this game? I started playing 10 days ago and completed the guide and got CW now I am confused about how to earn black tickets
hey mr. spider I gotta ask why not harmonize rosetta and luna?
replaced in the future
@@Spider2B D:
dorm currency goes up to 300k? ive been keeping it at 10k afraid to cap out, just buying hypertune mats!!! wtf!!!
holy!! meta will change the freak out of the world.. a ton of changes.. omg.. here comes a new age..
Bruh I have almost like 600k 💀
I also have 600k lol
@@Erenyeageerrrr 600k wtf.. welp haha..
The limit was increased back on Hanying's patch.
I dont have bianca's weapon. Is it better for me to prioritize getting her weapon first than alisa's weapon?
Alisa is better because she makes better use of the harmonisation feature and gives extra damage bonus. HOWEVER, look at your other teams. Do you have any plans for a fire team? Do you or are you planning to get Lee Hyperreal? If yes, get Lee's sig, it makes him more consistent. If not, then Alisa sig, then Bianca.
Yup this
What kind of event gives her coating? (Co-op or solo?)
Community limited event
Astral chain character fr fr
Do i need resonated *6 weap for harmonization or just any *6?
Any 6 star
I thought Alisa was stronger than Rosetta because of time stop, Good video always
Yeah it's cause alisa's memory set focuses more on buffing than damage while leaped rosetta is almost all about damage.
My weapon pity is 20/30, should i pull for Alisa's sig or Lamia's sig?
Lamia