I really feel like alot of people hate on Em ignoring the fact that he can rap circles around every rapper at the same time in the same breath. When i hear comments like "The white boy...." right away I feel like his race makes people hate subliminally without them even realizing it has an affect on how they are judging him. Even the top hip hop artist in the world can't deny Eminem and give him his due respect. I know this is opinion based, but if someone likes lyrical rap(not mumble rap) and they like lyricist like Nas, Biggie, Kool G Rap,... then I would think you should automatically like Em cuz he's lyrical. And all those rappers said Em is dope, so to hate makes me think it's because of his race.
automatik25 you hit the nail on the head! Nothing but hate. Em is a lyrical free styling beast and some black people just can't accept that he can eat their favorite rappers and their favorite rappers know it.
automatik25 your right it is because of his race, just like it's because of his race why a million white people who hated rap music, said it was STUPID, IGNORANT DUMB, UNEDUCATED PEOPLE who just talk mumbo jumbo make words rhyme together but are not saying anything because they can't sing, make noises with their mouth (beatbox) or sample other artist records because they can't play an instrument . An art form looked down upon by not all, but thousands of white people as just PATHETIC music, then Beastie Boys comes along and then miraculously white people start to like them and then Eminem comes along who is a excellent rapper( but there's other great rappers too)and now white people appreciate this artform as real music when the white boy does it. And you seriously questioning whether you think this is to do with race.
Karceno4Life Even though I I actually see you respond to people. Im surprised you responded. But I really like royce. and I actually liked his renegad verse a little more than Jay only because him and Em fit so well together. Also to me Em and Jay are tied one renegade.
Cause he made another video about him not liking Royce Da 5'9". Karceno said that Royce was not a good person on an older video. So Karceno caught his tongue to not complete his name correctly.
if you think at any point in that song Jay-Z was even or better you're a sucka and hater from New York with too much pride. If anything EM probably held back and he still made Jay-Z sound like some local rapper that has only done open mics. There is no debate , swallow your pride and admit it "Goddamn em killed it!" Its okay more music will be made.
Tudy Man -- 2pac would swallow em . em a good lyricist but no 1 was on the level of Pac. em would be too scared of him if he was still around he would be kickn rappers asses out there if not in the physical form in the mental.
Perfect example of Em on the Forever song was the year he made an appearance at Drakes OVO fest in Toronto. The crowd went absolutely nuts, he stole the show.
+bluepiff gz no white Eminem fans just started listening to rap. I grew up on melly Mel, run DMC, rakim, kool moe Dee, Chubb rock, too short, tupac, spice 1, az, biggie, Scarface, Tim dogg, Ed og, big daddy Kane, ice cube and Eminem music just not good to me.
I say that all the time. The white boys who had soul was 3RD Bass they were like the rap version of Hall & Oates. They couldn't rap as well as Eminem but I would take The Cactus album over any of Eminem music!
How the fuck don't you know who Royce Da 5'9 is man?! You gotta be kiddin me!! Lol He's on Bad Meets Evil with Eminem for Christ sake. Like come on now, you're talkin about a rap/hip hop topic and you don't know who Royce is smh
Darth Maul Royce da 5'9 is hot garbage juice he sucks he's not lyrical how did he even get a album he most likely doesn't know who he is because he is trash
Darth Maul. IMO I think he just tryna diss Royce or probably just hating, like that shit pissed me off big time, how the fuck would he pretend not to know who Royce is smh...
This video loses credibility for 2 reasons. 1. Every hip hop head I knew was staying em killed jay way before Nas dropped either. 2. If you don't know Royce da 59 you probably don't know much about hip hop.
Eminem Produced The Cross for Nas what are you talking about LOL. They might not be Pals but I'm sure both respect each others craft. Also Eminem almost begged Afeni Shakur to produce Tupac Loyal to the Game : www.mtv.com/news/1494233/eminem-went-crazy-with-tupacs-a-cappellas-for-loyal-to-the-game/ I don't see Kanye contacting Afeni when she was alive to produce tracks or any other producers. I'm not a huge Em fan I did look closely at his career to see his career fall to the dump and say see I told ya he was wack. Instead I ended up respecting his music and his crazy persona. Now I can safely say he is not in my top 5 also I rather put Lupe & Immortal Tech on top before him.
Agree Eminem ripped it on that track but that's some of the really s*** Jay Z ever wrote I had to hustle back to the walls ashyy nuckles,,pockets full of lent not having a cent,,,a lot of innocent lives lost up on the projects bench!???? Email talked about the industry,, jay talked crack era times! I came to the fork in the road and went straight ??
I'm not an Em fanboy or nothing. I just know I was born and raised the golden age of rap. All the way up yo this point Em is easily top 5. And to these people arguing over Em's originality, it's funny how I hear no one talking how Big got some of his style from Big Daddy Kane then use it as a negative(cause it's not). From what I paid attention to in the beginning(Infinite) he got pieces of his style from Masta Ace and Az. He just grew into the lyrical powerhouse he is now. We should appreciate great emcees for being great emcees. Arguing because Em is better than your favorite rapper makes no sense. Canibus is my favorite rapper. Em crushed him and has gotten better since then. I'm not gonna hate on Eminem for that. I rather focus on tying to eradicate this mumble rap garbage.
bthanhawk022 truth right there. My favorite rappers are Schooly D and Eazy-E. Eminem isnt one of my favorite rappers. I like a different style (West Coast). But I listen and study many rappers (expecially OG's) and as far as rapper superiority, anyone who knows rap whether your a fan of Eminem or not has to put him in the top 5 best rappers to ever touch a Mic. He's fucking filthy.
OMG you guys want to make your ears bleed then listen to Lil Pumps' "Gucci Gang", this guy literally says Gucci Gang every other word, literally has no lyrical genius to him at all, and the Rainbow Sherbert hair style will make you fuckin laugh your asses off
I didn't hear Jay Z complaining either. Nas was just throwing up hailmarys at that point. So what if Eminem's verse was better. Name an MC that could put up a better verse than Em on a song.
such a stupid ignorant comment. and also Em did grow up with his single mom, and in a trailer park, with not much money. is being around crack a pre-requisite to being a rapper?
My thing is EM is a bad boy. And at this point you must respect that. You got to think as EM someone is always going to try you. Especially being a White rapper. So mush always go hard. Always. Respect for putting the truth out.
Von Faulks yeah such a bad boy. what do you consider a bad boy? he doesn't use mind altering chemicals. doesn't slap his b@@@@ up. he's not a dealer. doesn't Rob or fight or murder people. never see him on the news for anything, unlike t.i. for gun trafficking and Chris Brown for assaults. snoop for murder so on so on. he's just a lyric genius period
So he wouldn't rap with Eminem because they are afraid of getting ripped in there own track wtf I thought rap was competitive lol so all these top rappers are sensitive as fuck
Umm i didnt listen to the whole thing but when i saw the caption i went "uhmm Snoop is literally featured in a song with Eminem on the marshall mathers LP - Bitch Please II"
Ok so what was Snoop's verse? He's on the hook for like 5 seconds. That's different than doing a verse with Em, kinda like how Em killed Jay on the Renegade feature, lol.
Won't rap with is different than "singing a 3 second hook“. Yeah, he is featured but what was his verse? If your gonna pretend to be not ignorant, don't admit by saying you didn't watch it all. It makes you look stupid, not smart. If you did, what Nas said about Jay was true lol. Snooo won't throw down a real verse with Em because he knows he will get murdered, but ok with it. The sad part is that, Em gave Jay Z the renegade song when he originally made for him and Royce Da 5'9
SilentNights185 You bugging. Snoop had a whole verse. Got about 50 guns and a love all of them the same bang bang, nah baby girl what’s your name, I forgot what u say it was, damn a n###a buzz.....................
He may be speakin' the truth - but anybody who doesn't know who Royce is loses ALL credibility in my book. Had he been given the chance, Royce would've murdered Jay on his own shit too.
i love how they talk about people don't want to be on the same track as eminem. goes to show how superior his lyrical skills are and how no one can compete with this man. these rappers don't have what it takes to keep up with him and dont have the balls to even try to keep up its sad really...
whats with all this Racism/ Reverse Racism? EM is undeniably top 10 maybe even Top 5, 1. he has co-signs from Rakim, Kool G, Redman, Nas, & jay etc etc. 2. he has held his own and killed people on songs with artist like jay, wayne, slaughterhouse, game, & Kendrick etc. 3. Beef? not just pop stars ask Canibus. 4. "he wouldnt be as big without White Fans" neither would any other Rapper... how about Techn9ne 50% of his fans are not black does that discredit his talent or success? 5. "he makes Stupid Songs like my name is.." Again so do alot of rappers So are all The Jay& Beyonce songs Fire? Nas did "I Can " No Rapper has a perfect Catalog..... AT THE END of the day Em is and will go down as one of the GOAT's he is successful , Talented & Respected by his peers wether yall like it or not
Reverse Racism? hahaha WTF is that? racism is putting one race over another, no matter which ones. But I agree with everything else you said. Eminem deserves the credit he gets.
MHNK77 "Reverse racism is a term used to describe acts of discrimination and prejudice perpetrated by racial minorities or historically oppressed ethnical groups against individuals belonging to the racial majority or historically dominant ethnical groups. In other words, it is reverse discrimination based on racial criteria."
People who say only white people can be racist are in fact racist. Being racist knows no race. People who say shit like that are very stupid, ignorant and make the issue even worse. A fucking joke! Thats what those people are. Black, oriental, white, Hispanic, Arab, etc. Have tons of racist people within their own ranks. That just makes no sense.
lol idiot. there is no such thing as reverse racism. there is racism, and not racism. simple as that. black hates whites, racist. white hates black, racist. no such thing as reverse racism
Devan Hixson Yeah, "classic quote" if it was an actual song quote and not an incorrect paraphrase... CORRECTLY: "Where's my snare? I have no snare in my headphones. There you go. Hey, yo....."
Devan Hixson got no time for that heavily commercialised overplayed shit... a quote you should have gone for was 'a lot of people ask me... am I afraid of death...Hell yeah I'm afraid of death, I don't wanna die yet'
Str8 the fuck up r u fucking serious u dont know Royce Da 59 I know y cuz u only knew what everybody else knows u follower and you cant understand what's real and fake, real rappers bringing hip hop back not ur rap and "hipdrop" we want r RAP AND HIPHOP BACK BITCHES
If you really listen to the lyrics, neither rapper was superior to the other. From Jay Z's perspective, it was about growing up through tough times in the hood. From Eminem's perspective, it was about his public perception in the media. Granted, Eminem did fit more words in his bars than Jay Z did, but he did not kill him. If you grew up in the hood, you appreciated Jay's verse of the struggle. Nas was just beefing with Jay at the time when he made the statement. Jay represented the hood in his verse. Eminem represented all celebrities being crucified by the media. If you look at the body of work and relevance in hip hop, Jay Z is the GOAT.
Em is overrated if he was Black he would be Chino XL. Em aint wack but his voice is annoying, and he makes too many goofy songs like MY NAME IS. HE also needs to flow better with the beat. I respect him though because unlike most White rappers he gives opportunities to Black MC's.
I know he barely makes any songs anymore. 2009 was the last time he was dropping joints regularly. But his discography is littered with corny songs gatman and robbin, Ass Like that, Real Slim Shady, etc. Not to mention he would always diss easy targets like Britney Speers. Give me Kool G rap, Rakim, Ghostface and 500 other MC's over Em any day.
1. Ice Cube 2. Will Smith (underrated af) try rapping without Curse words 3. Tupac 4. Biggie 5. Eminem 6. Lil Boosie My list realest and greatest.. Now let's argue
LOL.......What an articulate statement......i was unaware that words could be associated with race or ethnicity........In the words of the great poet Ice Cube "CHECK YO SELF!!!!!"
"Our culture?" What are you talking about? Besides culture vultures and trolling (which you did with your comment) are almost the same types of behavioral traits. Get over it DOG!!! Listen and Love!!! Merry Christmas to all......
True hip hop heads also knew that wasnt Jay's track, he made an exec move and replaced Royce. Dont get it twisted tho, Em's verse was better regardless. Nas twisted the scenario for his ether BUT his point was even more potent than the public realises. Nas was pointing out if you take a man off his track(Royce) then you should at least come harder than the person you took off that track, Nas highlighted that fact with his now famous words "Eminem murdered you on your own track". Again Nas is a genius, he basically showed the world what happens when you pick on the small guy. Jay had the power to get Royce of the track, Royce was powerless in the situation BUT Em outshined Jay on the track, so its like Jay paid for his own funeral. I could go on for days but real hip hop heads know whats up. Lastly DJ Micnifacent, fuck these ignorant mfs, ORIGINALS take no offense to the phrase "Hip hop heads".
You just spent 7 minutes explaining that Eminem is one of the best rappers ever and this makes some others afraid to collaborate with him. Who are you, like Howard Stern of rap?
Tim Dellon eminem ghost writes alot of the verses people do on his shit.. look at guilty conscience.. you think dre wrote that shit.. and forgot about dre
Amen. if your gonna Rapp or sing it must be beneficial to the listener not a bad message one that can see them thru.You guys got some of the baddest hooks ever around but, the message is the key of growing good or growing bad among people's hearts and thinking. Stay up snoop.
OweNoOneNothin In2016, Not anymore, he trash his best song was 5 years ago and that was Rap God. Take his Trump Diss for example he took long pauses to come up with words and this was the fool who read whole dictionaries. I call his freestyles now a days unwanted leftovers of his past.
They know people skip.to eminems verse because he brings it. Fuck what anyone is rappin about. Eminem takes over the song. Thats reality. Has been since hes been in the game.
lets keep it 100. Eminem did get the best of Jay on that renegade record, theres no disputing that. But to say that Jay got destroyed? That's not true. I'm speaking about in reality, not fuck niggas who jump on bandwagons. Jay didn't have the best verse , but he didn't get destroyed. Ceno you're right, nobody was saying Jay got bodied until Nas said it. If that's the reason why rappers don't want to hop on a Eminem track then that's gay as fuck. Eminem is not that nice. Hes a great technical writer, no great content. No heart in his music. He just lost it on that one track with Hov , he typically doesn't rap like that on every track.
em says he was influenced by masta ace and treach supposedly was gonna work with ace but his label advised him against it. if I was in ems position I would definitely reach out to my favorite rappers for a collabo
Worms Hip Hop thanks for the support but his verses are awesome like lose youreself, not afraid, slim shady, my name is, without me, love the way you lie, and forgot about Dre he is a lit rapper I’m just tired of other blacks being racist they say he told old for rapping and say nothin about dogg 50 cent and Dre so they be racist they say Dre and dogg are younger and better 😂 Eminem is the king of rap like who be the only rapper to get a Oscar Em we all know that it just some blacks don’t want to admit it cause there jealous he is the king of there music even tho it’s now also white music to tbf
Eminem has actually mastered the English language as a whole, (dicitonary whatever) no other rapper study's that, when you have done that u can do what you want
For real, Em is too smooth with his flow. There are just a few icons like that, that you don't rap with. The other is Pac. There is no evidence that I have heard where Pac did not shut down any other artist on a record. These two have a flow that and cadence that is second to none. It's not that Jay is weak, it's just Em's flow is just stupid. I'm with Snoop, that would be a mistake going against that dude.
Em, Snoop, Nas, JayZ have their own styles. Sometimes during a collaboration it won't work well. Eminem usually can collaborate with emcees like Royce Da 59, Xzibit..basically rappers who can battle. But I love it when Em collabs with BustaRymes.
Eminem is a good Lyricist with a great delivery from a page he took from rakim when it comes to writing, but far from the best rapper...most people where I'm from only listen eminem if it's a duet with another great rapper or just to check out the new album he dropped, all the other drag about game, snoop and rakim saying he's the best, they get rewarded by the industry by giving Eminem False accolades To stay relevant in the game in my opinion... If you think about it who's talking about em, The best stay popping in the streets, the club, the radio "hell he Barely keeping you tube hot.
True dat! Dr Dre, 50 cent, Kendrick Lamar, Lil Wayne, none of those rap vets would EVER do a collaboration with Eminem. They would be scared to get destroyed!
Lmfao. Eminem easily is the Greatest Track killer ever. Guys Em has killed on tracks: Method Man, Redman, Sticky Fingaz, Biggie, Jay Z, Jadakiss, Busta Rhymes. He can take ANYONE on a Track.
TheEdub1 well sticky Fingaz is a lyricist of Ras Kass and Chino XL level lol .... of course he can beat Em lyrically... can't say the same for Drake and Kanye lol
LMAO what track did he kill Biggie on? If you are talking about Dead Wrong bruh you must be snorting some good shit. Em's verse on that track was pure garbage...
Like EMINEM SAYS, " here they go packing stadiums as Shady spits his flow, nuts they go macadamian they go ballistic Whoa, HE CAN MAKE THEM LOOK LIKE BOZOS HES WONDERING IF HE SHOULD SPIT THIS SLOOW, FUUUCK NOO, GO FOR BROKE HIS CUP JUST RUNNETH OVER OH NO! "".. Eminem raps so fast and so lyrically genius Lee that the other rappers don't even see he's fucking mocking them it's awesome he's the greatest rapper of all time hands down in my opinion.
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I really feel like alot of people hate on Em ignoring the fact that he can rap circles around every rapper at the same time in the same breath. When i hear comments like "The white boy...." right away I feel like his race makes people hate subliminally without them even realizing it has an affect on how they are judging him. Even the top hip hop artist in the world can't deny Eminem and give him his due respect. I know this is opinion based, but if someone likes lyrical rap(not mumble rap) and they like lyricist like Nas, Biggie, Kool G Rap,... then I would think you should automatically like Em cuz he's lyrical. And all those rappers said Em is dope, so to hate makes me think it's because of his race.
automatik25 you hit the nail on the head! Nothing but hate. Em is a lyrical free styling beast and some black people just can't accept that he can eat their favorite rappers and their favorite rappers know it.
automatik25 your right it is because of his race, just like it's because of his race why a million white people who hated rap music, said it was STUPID, IGNORANT DUMB, UNEDUCATED PEOPLE who just talk mumbo jumbo make words rhyme together but are not saying anything because they can't sing, make noises with their mouth (beatbox) or sample other artist records because they can't play an instrument . An art form looked down upon by not all, but thousands of white people as just PATHETIC music, then Beastie Boys comes along and then miraculously white people start to like them and then Eminem comes along who is a excellent rapper( but there's other great rappers too)and now white people appreciate this artform as real music when the white boy does it. And you seriously questioning whether you think this is to do with race.
you didn't have to do him like that. lol
automatik25 its because hes white. and what fucks me up is as black people we understand racism but continue to call eminem trash
jaramiew Exactly.
Bruh, how the hell you got disrespect ROYCE DA 5'9" like that?
+donkor thomas easy
Karceno4Life Even though I I actually see you respond to people. Im surprised you responded. But I really like royce. and I actually liked his renegad verse a little more than Jay only because him and Em fit so well together. Also to me Em and Jay are tied one renegade.
+Karceno4Life I think u should do the stories that don't matter its all good cuz its all under the roof of hip hop
ManhattanRaised thx for telling me
Cause he made another video about him not liking Royce Da 5'9". Karceno said that Royce was not a good person on an older video. So Karceno caught his tongue to not complete his name correctly.
Put it on 1.5x - you're welcome
Draydel eh little higherXD
Thank God
Draydel thank you soo much 🙏
Now it makes sense thx
Thanks
Nah, everyone knew Em's verses destroyed... Nas just admitted first
Your Reply Wont Be Read Yeah, everyone was saying Em verse was much better but I actually believe they were about even.
Exactly
if you think at any point in that song Jay-Z was even or better you're a sucka and hater from New York with too much pride. If anything EM probably held back and he still made Jay-Z sound like some local rapper that has only done open mics. There is no debate , swallow your pride and admit it "Goddamn em killed it!" Its okay more music will be made.
Kingstyles05
Every point I made
made perfect fucking sense!
3 rules of battling Eminem. 1.Dont let him go first.
2.Dont let him go second.
3.Just put the mic down.
Boy I never seen more bullshit hype since Goldberg undefeated streak when he went 173-0 and it was really 20-0 😫🤦♀️😒
There is one way to beat eminem:
1. Be a better emcee
😂😂🤣😭😭!
Em is good battle rapper. No one cares about battle rap really. Because no one's going to ride around playing that ISH in there car. Or at a club.
Got 3 names for you
1. Eyedea
2. Brother Ali (check out the wakeup show)
3. Safe Francis
RIP -Scribble Jam
Fast forward 2021 and Nas did collab… Eminem went hard on that EPMD record, but it took nothin away from Nas.
Em kills everybody on there tracks
roman pierre
listen to stickys verse on remember me
gotchu
He has no choice but to do that. It's business and it's never personal.
roman pierre,He couldn't touch Buster Rhymes with a 8 mile pole.
roman pierre not LL
2pac would have been the exception because 2pac work ethic and passion wouldn't let Eminem do. Pac was a different beast.
WS62B no he couldn't have
Trust me he couldn't there nothing lyrical about tupac I'm sorry
Tudy Man -- 2pac would swallow em . em a good lyricist but no 1 was on the level of Pac. em would be too scared of him if he was still around he would be kickn rappers asses out there if not in the physical form in the mental.
welder77 jorge TUPAC CAN NOT DESTROY EMINEM. STOP TALKING DUMB SHIT AND FOLLOWING A BAND WAGON.
illnigma -- Bandwagon im 40 yrs. old . Im not no 20 yr. old punk . and mind your bizzness wasnt even talkn to u ✌
Perfect example of Em on the Forever song was the year he made an appearance at Drakes OVO fest in Toronto. The crowd went absolutely nuts, he stole the show.
Truth behind "Bitch Please II"
snoop was high he don't remember making that song
+Karceno4Life have you ever heard a black person driving down the South Side, West side, East side, South burbs of Chicago listening to Eminem????
malmsteen2013 lol yupwe was bumoin em in the hood heavy the whole shady/aftermath What u jus start listenin 2rap??
+bluepiff gz no white Eminem fans just started listening to rap. I grew up on melly Mel, run DMC, rakim, kool moe Dee, Chubb rock, too short, tupac, spice 1, az, biggie, Scarface, Tim dogg, Ed og, big daddy Kane, ice cube and Eminem music just not good to me.
I have.
the white boy can rap. his verbiage is great. but I can't feel his work. he has no soul!!
I say that all the time. The white boys who had soul was 3RD Bass they were like the rap version of Hall & Oates. They couldn't rap as well as Eminem but I would take The Cactus album over any of Eminem music!
TheEdub1 indeed! I still ride on the cactus album
Marlon Curington this is the reason 50 will always be better than Em to me
Scotty Ferrall I don't even listen to him. Dr Dre should get credit for the dude for real. And I agree with you on 50
Yup I agree. His subject matter is trash imo.
How the fuck don't you know who Royce Da 5'9 is man?! You gotta be kiddin me!! Lol He's on Bad Meets Evil with Eminem for Christ sake. Like come on now, you're talkin about a rap/hip hop topic and you don't know who Royce is smh
Darth Maul Royce da 5'9 is hot garbage juice he sucks he's not lyrical how did he even get a album he most likely doesn't know who he is because he is trash
Darth Maul. IMO I think he just tryna diss Royce or probably just hating, like that shit pissed me off big time, how the fuck would he pretend not to know who Royce is smh...
Darth Maul true story, the second place track was dope too, royce is solid
Darth Maul The song and the Album
"he is not lyrical" you clearly understand the game hahahaha
Royce is a true rapper with amazing skills
Ryan Dafoe too bad he doesn’t drop music
Ryan Dafoe he trash
I'd listen to Royce any day
Em is boring af
Royce lost his mind rite now
He ain't even top 50
This video loses credibility for 2 reasons.
1. Every hip hop head I knew was staying em killed jay way before Nas dropped either.
2. If you don't know Royce da 59 you probably don't know much about hip hop.
royce is the only one rapper now who can compete with eminem
@@abdelrahmanbaraka6133 their Album is proof how good they are
@@rakim2730 i hope there is a bad meets evil 2 soon
@@abdelrahmanbaraka6133 only if you listen to mainstream or don't know hip hop
Nicholas Rios thank you for saying it! What the actual fuck?!?! He really didn’t know Royce. That’s embarrassing!
"Never going to happen" LOL .. Within the last few years, Em did a song with both Snoop and Nas
And they were both trash. He needs to go back to making love the way you lie part 27.
Nas sees through the BS of them using Em as the Elvis of rap!
Eminem Produced The Cross for Nas what are you talking about LOL. They might not be Pals but I'm sure both respect each others craft. Also Eminem almost begged Afeni Shakur to produce Tupac Loyal to the Game : www.mtv.com/news/1494233/eminem-went-crazy-with-tupacs-a-cappellas-for-loyal-to-the-game/
I don't see Kanye contacting Afeni when she was alive to produce tracks or any other producers. I'm not a huge Em fan I did look closely at his career to see his career fall to the dump and say see I told ya he was wack. Instead I ended up respecting his music and his crazy persona. Now I can safely say he is not in my top 5 also I rather put Lupe & Immortal Tech on top before him.
im talking bout rapping dummy
Louise Bell FACTS
Like Karceno said this dont even matter no more. You go look it up. This rap shit is played out! Niggas have moved on. I was done in 96
without nas saying his line. eminem did kill that renegade verse over jayz...
all facts
Nope Slim Shady can't compete with Brooklyn rappers
@@truthhurtz8517 name 5 Brooklyn rappers
Agree Eminem ripped it on that track but that's some of the really s*** Jay Z ever wrote I had to hustle back to the walls ashyy nuckles,,pockets full of lent not having a cent,,,a lot of innocent lives lost up on the projects bench!???? Email talked about the industry,, jay talked crack era times! I came to the fork in the road and went straight ??
Cap
I'm not an Em fanboy or nothing. I just know I was born and raised the golden age of rap. All the way up yo this point Em is easily top 5. And to these people arguing over Em's originality, it's funny how I hear no one talking how Big got some of his style from Big Daddy Kane then use it as a negative(cause it's not). From what I paid attention to in the beginning(Infinite) he got pieces of his style from Masta Ace and Az. He just grew into the lyrical powerhouse he is now. We should appreciate great emcees for being great emcees. Arguing because Em is better than your favorite rapper makes no sense. Canibus is my favorite rapper. Em crushed him and has gotten better since then. I'm not gonna hate on Eminem for that. I rather focus on tying to eradicate this mumble rap garbage.
bthanhawk022 truth right there. My favorite rappers are Schooly D and Eazy-E. Eminem isnt one of my favorite rappers. I like a different style (West Coast). But I listen and study many rappers (expecially OG's) and as far as rapper superiority, anyone who knows rap whether your a fan of Eminem or not has to put him in the top 5 best rappers to ever touch a Mic. He's fucking filthy.
The truth. Wish more people would be as honest as you bro.
Lucas Turney thank you .. finally someone busted their nuts on what they sound like
OMG you guys want to make your ears bleed then listen to Lil Pumps' "Gucci Gang", this guy literally says Gucci Gang every other word, literally has no lyrical genius to him at all, and the Rainbow Sherbert hair style will make you fuckin laugh your asses off
Nailed that shit down, dint’cha
Shady is Monster on the Mic, What's up doe Detroit!!!
Shawn Patterson What up doe! 😁
Shawn Patterson What up doe! 😁
there's no S on it
Yep wack corny cornball nursery Rhymes
T.i. Didn't complain because he has talent. Who wouldn't want the best featured.
I didn't hear Jay Z complaining either. Nas was just throwing up hailmarys at that point. So what if Eminem's verse was better. Name an MC that could put up a better verse than Em on a song.
Phillip Griffin. ludacris,bun b, etc
janiece keys so true props to you for recognizing that truth .
such a stupid ignorant comment. and also Em did grow up with his single mom, and in a trailer park, with not much money. is being around crack a pre-requisite to being a rapper?
Shawon
who said anything about crack?
Long story short, it's like they always say: "once Eminem starts, it's no longer your song"
My thing is EM is a bad boy. And at this point you must respect that. You got to think as EM someone is always going to try you. Especially being a White rapper. So mush always go hard. Always. Respect for putting the truth out.
Von Faulks yeah such a bad boy. what do you consider a bad boy? he doesn't use mind altering chemicals. doesn't slap his b@@@@ up. he's not a dealer. doesn't Rob or fight or murder people. never see him on the news for anything, unlike t.i. for gun trafficking and Chris Brown for assaults. snoop for murder so on so on. he's just a lyric genius period
Derek Hambleton look up some of the shit he did before he got clean
Von Faulks
I disagree about the whiteboy comment. em is a MC. vanilla ice is a whiteboy rapper
The Eminem Show is one of my favorite CDs. so many dope tracks
The fact jay heard ems verus before writing his and still couldn't Match it , says a lot
So he wouldn't rap with Eminem because they are afraid of getting ripped in there own track wtf I thought rap was competitive lol so all these top rappers are sensitive as fuck
thats how they stay top rappers
I came to the comments looking for the tl;dr version!
Eminem was a beast and He is maybe overrated but He is a m.c. we have to respect that period
I agree I used to be blindly dumb but he is hip hop.
Eminem's verse on Renegade made Jay-Z sound like an amateur. People knew that before Nas said it. Come on now.
That's just how good Em is. Not his fault everybody else playin' catch up.
Umm i didnt listen to the whole thing but when i saw the caption i went "uhmm Snoop is literally featured in a song with Eminem on the marshall mathers LP - Bitch Please II"
Ok so what was Snoop's verse? He's on the hook for like 5 seconds. That's different than doing a verse with Em, kinda like how Em killed Jay on the Renegade feature, lol.
Won't rap with is different than "singing a 3 second hook“. Yeah, he is featured but what was his verse? If your gonna pretend to be not ignorant, don't admit by saying you didn't watch it all. It makes you look stupid, not smart. If you did, what Nas said about Jay was true lol. Snooo won't throw down a real verse with Em because he knows he will get murdered, but ok with it. The sad part is that, Em gave Jay Z the renegade song when he originally made for him and Royce Da 5'9
SilentNights185
You bugging. Snoop had a whole verse. Got about 50 guns and a love all of them the same bang bang, nah baby girl what’s your name, I forgot what u say it was, damn a n###a buzz.....................
It doesn't matter if he was just 5 seconds he was still on the track with him and in the studio with him so basically yeah he did work with him
He may be speakin' the truth - but anybody who doesn't know who Royce is loses ALL credibility in my book. Had he been given the chance, Royce would've murdered Jay on his own shit too.
i love how they talk about people don't want to be on the same track as eminem. goes to show how superior his lyrical skills are and how no one can compete with this man. these rappers don't have what it takes to keep up with him and dont have the balls to even try to keep up its sad really...
I believe I can rap with Eminem and many un discovered others. He is a rap god if he writes his own lyrics though no doubt
Man you are bugging!!!
whats with all this Racism/ Reverse Racism? EM is undeniably top 10 maybe even Top 5, 1. he has co-signs from Rakim, Kool G, Redman, Nas, & jay etc etc. 2. he has held his own and killed people on songs with artist like jay, wayne, slaughterhouse, game, & Kendrick etc. 3. Beef? not just pop stars ask Canibus. 4. "he wouldnt be as big without White Fans" neither would any other Rapper... how about Techn9ne 50% of his fans are not black does that discredit his talent or success? 5. "he makes Stupid Songs like my name is.." Again so do alot of rappers So are all The Jay& Beyonce songs Fire? Nas did "I Can " No Rapper has a perfect Catalog..... AT THE END of the day Em is and will go down as one of the GOAT's he is successful , Talented & Respected by his peers wether yall like it or not
Reverse Racism? hahaha WTF is that? racism is putting one race over another, no matter which ones.
But I agree with everything else you said. Eminem deserves the credit he gets.
MHNK77 "Reverse racism is a term used to describe acts of discrimination and prejudice perpetrated by racial minorities or historically oppressed ethnical groups against individuals belonging to the racial majority or historically dominant ethnical groups. In other words, it is reverse discrimination based on racial criteria."
TheRamirezdesdel89 aight man damn wtf
People who say only white people can be racist are in fact racist. Being racist knows no race. People who say shit like that are very stupid, ignorant and make the issue even worse. A fucking joke! Thats what those people are. Black, oriental, white, Hispanic, Arab, etc. Have tons of racist people within their own ranks. That just makes no sense.
lol idiot. there is no such thing as reverse racism. there is racism, and not racism. simple as that. black hates whites, racist. white hates black, racist. no such thing as reverse racism
"Once Nas said it, it became law"
Where's the snare? My headphones have no snare
+Devan Hixson who asks for the snare lol, we need to heard the drums!!
Devan Hixson classic Eminem quote
Devan Hixson Yeah, "classic quote" if it was an actual song quote and not an incorrect paraphrase... CORRECTLY: "Where's my snare? I have no snare in my headphones. There you go. Hey, yo....."
The song is "Cleaning out my closet"
Devan Hixson got no time for that heavily commercialised overplayed shit... a quote you should have gone for was 'a lot of people ask me... am I afraid of death...Hell yeah I'm afraid of death, I don't wanna die yet'
"That Royce guy"
Royce would destroy all these cats too
Snoop got exposed with the Pac and Death Row situation i don't fuck with Snoop
Now we in 2021😂😂😂
& nothing changed !😋🤨😋🤨
Same song & dance 😅😅😅
he was 1000% accurate!
Royce Da 5'9"
How could you not know Royce? You don't even like hip-hop.
Dirty Wise hahahaha I agree - Charlie Ghanjhi Blunt
He clowning him
He said Moist the 5 9
Dirty Wise i tought he said moisty 5'9
Str8 the fuck up r u fucking serious u dont know Royce Da 59 I know y cuz u only knew what everybody else knows u follower and you cant understand what's real and fake, real rappers bringing hip hop back not ur rap and "hipdrop" we want r RAP AND HIPHOP BACK BITCHES
How could you not know Royce man if u gonna do a video on this at least do your research. Fail. Smh
If you really listen to the lyrics, neither rapper was superior to the other. From Jay Z's perspective, it was about growing up through tough times in the hood. From Eminem's perspective, it was about his public perception in the media. Granted, Eminem did fit more words in his bars than Jay Z did, but he did not kill him. If you grew up in the hood, you appreciated Jay's verse of the struggle. Nas was just beefing with Jay at the time when he made the statement. Jay represented the hood in his verse. Eminem represented all celebrities being crucified by the media. If you look at the body of work and relevance in hip hop, Jay Z is the GOAT.
Remember that’s ur opinion
Em is overrated if he was Black he would be Chino XL. Em aint wack but his voice is annoying, and he makes too many goofy songs like MY NAME IS. HE also needs to flow better with the beat. I respect him though because unlike most White rappers he gives opportunities to Black MC's.
Em hasn't released a my name is type song since 09
I know he barely makes any songs anymore. 2009 was the last time he was dropping joints regularly. But his discography is littered with corny songs gatman and robbin, Ass Like that, Real Slim Shady, etc. Not to mention he would always diss easy targets like Britney Speers. Give me Kool G rap, Rakim, Ghostface and 500 other MC's over Em any day.
DJPFreshKing
bizerk came out in 2013 another silly song
Well I'd listen Em over them sometimes because it's goofy he's nerd what do you except? That's why he sold a lot he connected white the nerdy kids.
Anthony Haller WE HAVE PLENTY OF NERDY BLACKS...JUST LOOKAT CANIBUS OR THE PHARCYDE
I'm years late to this video but what you're saying here Just reinforces why I got too much respect for Buster Rhymes. Seriously underated.
Nah they were my 2 fave rappers at the time and Em crushed him. Jay took awhile to get goin but Em blazed from start to finish
1. Ice Cube
2. Will Smith (underrated af) try rapping without Curse words
3. Tupac
4. Biggie
5. Eminem
6. Lil Boosie
My list realest and greatest.. Now let's argue
Eminem #1 Let's talk facts
This aged like milk.
First time i heard Renegade I KNEW EM KILLED HIM, i didn't need to wait for Nas to validate it, true Hip-Hop Heads already knew....
LOL.......What an articulate statement......i was unaware that words could be associated with race or ethnicity........In the words of the great poet Ice Cube "CHECK YO SELF!!!!!"
"Our culture?" What are you talking about? Besides culture vultures and trolling (which you did with your comment) are almost the same types of behavioral traits. Get over it DOG!!! Listen and Love!!! Merry Christmas to all......
True hip hop heads also knew that wasnt Jay's track, he made an exec move and replaced Royce. Dont get it twisted tho, Em's verse was better regardless. Nas twisted the scenario for his ether BUT his point was even more potent than the public realises. Nas was pointing out if you take a man off his track(Royce) then you should at least come harder than the person you took off that track, Nas highlighted that fact with his now famous words "Eminem murdered you on your own track". Again Nas is a genius, he basically showed the world what happens when you pick on the small guy. Jay had the power to get Royce of the track, Royce was powerless in the situation BUT Em outshined Jay on the track, so its like Jay paid for his own funeral. I could go on for days but real hip hop heads know whats up. Lastly DJ Micnifacent, fuck these ignorant mfs, ORIGINALS take no offense to the phrase "Hip hop heads".
These clowns would make anything about color
Em verse is corny
Jay actually had substance
Nas was just cracking jokes
You just spent 7 minutes explaining that Eminem is one of the best rappers ever and this makes some others afraid to collaborate with him.
Who are you, like Howard Stern of rap?
No. Karceno is a truth teller.
Royce da 5'9" come on bruh. Do you even know what you talkin bout
Nas has a joint with Eminem named Topless and Nas did Eminem dirty
Tyrone Tucker Eminem just rapped like dr.dre on the Song cause i got both Versions of the song dr.dre and nas and T.i.
Tyrone Tucker
really
Tyrone Tucker em did that verse for dre to recite
Tim Dellon eminem ghost writes alot of the verses people do on his shit.. look at guilty conscience.. you think dre wrote that shit.. and forgot about dre
Tyrone Tucker eminem was writing for dr dre ... its a dre verse not an eminem verse lol
I wish Big L was still here!
What I learned from this videos is to not fuck with eminent or collab cause he'll out rap you even if he doesn't mean too.
Em did kill HOV on that jawn...😂
Snoop dont want Jay on his shit either tho...Jay would murk Snoop
Em and snoop have rapped together?
Dakota Ventiere Bitch Please pt.2 With Dre,Xzbit,and Snoop
@@bluejoker03 snoop didn't technically rap with him lol. He sung the hook
@@SilentNights185 Snoop and Dre shared the first verse
@@SilentNights185 nate did the the hook not snoop
@@SilentNights185 That was nate dogg bro.
Once nas said it, IT BECAME LAW
Zombie Nation Lmfao
ive saved this for when i cant sleep
They don’t rap with him because he’s a, “culture vulture.” TELL THE TRUTH!
This guy should do more research instead of these ignorant conspiracies. white or black you go hard or you dont.
I thought Jay was subpar on Renegade before I heard Ether. And Royce's verses on Renegade are light-years beyond Jay's.
FACTS!!!
Go back and listen to J second verse. One of the best true hip hop verses ever written.
That's just factually not true, have they heard Chronic 2001?
so karceno you saying that all these rappers fear Eminem
Mike Sowers allot do
Nicky Minaj killed Eminem on her song. Nobody is afraid of a damn Eminem
coreyaustin1 Oh really?
Cuz Snoop obviously is 😄
Amen. if your gonna Rapp or sing it must be beneficial to the listener not a bad message one that can see them thru.You guys got some of the baddest hooks ever around but, the message is the key of growing good or growing bad among people's hearts and thinking. Stay up snoop.
Because most get outshined by Em even today
Eminem is a lyrical genius! Period
RIGHT
You should listen to machine gun kelley
OweNoOneNothin In2016, Not anymore, he trash his best song was 5 years ago and that was Rap God. Take his Trump Diss for example he took long pauses to come up with words and this was the fool who read whole dictionaries. I call his freestyles now a days unwanted leftovers of his past.
OweNoOneNothin In2016
He's got technique but he says nothing with it. Very boring
@@coltlemmon8568 yeah and that was short lived! Lol
They know people skip.to eminems verse because he brings it. Fuck what anyone is rappin about. Eminem takes over the song. Thats reality. Has been since hes been in the game.
Tbh,Em will mark Nas as well. But,Nas was right. Em did murder Jay on his own track.
I don't think so!
lets keep it 100. Eminem did get the best of Jay on that renegade record, theres no disputing that. But to say that Jay got destroyed? That's not true. I'm speaking about in reality, not fuck niggas who jump on bandwagons. Jay didn't have the best verse , but he didn't get destroyed. Ceno you're right, nobody was saying Jay got bodied until Nas said it. If that's the reason why rappers don't want to hop on a Eminem track then that's gay as fuck. Eminem is not that nice. Hes a great technical writer, no great content. No heart in his music. He just lost it on that one track with Hov , he typically doesn't rap like that on every track.
em says he was influenced by masta ace and treach supposedly was gonna work with ace but his label advised him against it. if I was in ems position I would definitely reach out to my favorite rappers for a collabo
Eminem is a rap God. Big props to the man and his untouchable skills.
erniedawg hes not untouchable...
erniedawg Eminem for white ears
erniedawg
His verses are boring imo
He has technical skill for sure tho
a gsw stfu you’re racist
Worms Hip Hop thanks for the support but his verses are awesome like lose youreself, not afraid, slim shady, my name is, without me, love the way you lie, and forgot about Dre he is a lit rapper I’m just tired of other blacks being racist they say he told old for rapping and say nothin about dogg 50 cent and Dre so they be racist they say Dre and dogg are younger and better 😂 Eminem is the king of rap like who be the only rapper to get a Oscar Em we all know that it just some blacks don’t want to admit it cause there jealous he is the king of there music even tho it’s now also white music to tbf
sooooo why did snoop rap on BITCH PLEASE II ???? THIS FOOL BE LYING TO YALL I SWEAR
tye monroe tru
tye monroe bitch please 2 was on an EM record. Name a track from a snoop album featuring EM
tye monroe because DR. Dre was working with snoop... it was probably more due to Dre than snoop wanting to work with em
I remember Em coming up when I was a young man I was so proud being a white man myself I always likes rap and hip-hop
Moist the 5'9 🙏💀 I just spilt my drink
NAS is the true, original "Rap God", anything he says is Gospel in the Rap game.
Amazing video.
Eminem has actually mastered the English language as a whole, (dicitonary whatever) no other rapper study's that, when you have done that u can do what you want
Yep with wack corny cornball nursery Rhymes.... He ain't even top 50...
@Your Editor 😂😂😂
Cause EMINEM is nasty when he spits and everyone is Skurd... Just saying...
how many times can you say "once nas said it, it became law" before one of your homies reaches over and bitch slaps you?
em is the shit son
Eminem is amazing.
Amazing video.
For real, Em is too smooth with his flow. There are just a few icons like that, that you don't rap with. The other is Pac. There is no evidence that I have heard where Pac did not shut down any other artist on a record. These two have a flow that and cadence that is second to none. It's not that Jay is weak, it's just Em's flow is just stupid. I'm with Snoop, that would be a mistake going against that dude.
I believe Nas wanted to work worth Em on the song daughters but Em wasn't up to it...i think Nas said it on an Angie Martinez interview
Jeff Nelson damn that would've been dope..
Eminem is a beast , Period !!!
Dropped a like 👍
If Em guests on your track... it's an Em song from then on.
Em's the G.O.A.T.
50 Cent got destroyed on "Patiently Waiting" too.
Dexter Haven nah, 50 got EM on that even though Eminem went off on that track.
because em is a fucking beast and he evolves every year getting better and faster
eminem is on a whole other lvl lol thats why
I disagree. I never knew NAS said that. But always thought EMINEM killed J on that.
@James Washington Nas said it on Ether, and oh yeah EMINEM did killed him on his own shit
Em, Snoop, Nas, JayZ have their own styles. Sometimes during a collaboration it won't work well. Eminem usually can collaborate with emcees like Royce Da 59, Xzibit..basically rappers who can battle. But I love it when Em collabs with BustaRymes.
In 50 years, they are gonna say Em was the king of rap, like Elvis was the king of rock. Culture vultures
Black people hate it when white dudes do their own shit better than them.
Dave Lal can say the same thing for whit ppl
Eminem released too many garbage albums. Kendrick beats him.
Ha this snoop dogg interview is priceless
MOIST DA 5'9..#CLASSIC good vid great info like always
Eminem is a good Lyricist with a great delivery from a page he took from rakim when it comes to writing, but far from the best rapper...most people where I'm from only listen eminem if it's a duet with another great rapper or just to check out the new album he dropped, all the other drag about game, snoop and rakim saying he's the best, they get rewarded by the industry by giving Eminem False accolades To stay relevant in the game in my opinion...
If you think about it who's talking about em, The best stay popping in the streets, the club, the radio "hell he Barely keeping you tube hot.
But Snoop has some songs with Eminem...
True dat! Dr Dre, 50 cent, Kendrick Lamar, Lil Wayne, none of those rap vets would EVER do a collaboration with Eminem. They would be scared to get destroyed!
mahadragon Dr dre is the one who signed em
The greatest Rapper ever. PERIOD.
Have you listened to every rapper in the history of the genre???
Lmfao. Eminem easily is the Greatest Track killer ever. Guys Em has killed on tracks: Method Man, Redman, Sticky Fingaz, Biggie, Jay Z, Jadakiss, Busta Rhymes. He can take ANYONE on a Track.
Sticky destroyed Eminem on Remember Me. The biggest track killers of all time to me are Kool G Rap and Canibus.
TheEdub1 well sticky Fingaz is a lyricist of Ras Kass and Chino XL level lol .... of course he can beat Em lyrically... can't say the same for Drake and Kanye lol
LMAO what track did he kill Biggie on? If you are talking about Dead Wrong bruh you must be snorting some good shit. Em's verse on that track was pure garbage...
that dead wrong joint was the worse collab even factual Biggie dead at that made it undigested
TheEdub1 No Way.
Like EMINEM SAYS, " here they go packing stadiums as Shady spits his flow, nuts they go macadamian they go ballistic Whoa, HE CAN MAKE THEM LOOK LIKE BOZOS HES WONDERING IF HE SHOULD SPIT THIS SLOOW, FUUUCK NOO, GO FOR BROKE HIS CUP JUST RUNNETH OVER OH NO! "".. Eminem raps so fast and so lyrically genius Lee that the other rappers don't even see he's fucking mocking them it's awesome he's the greatest rapper of all time hands down in my opinion.
Cassidy is the one who kills every body
Who?
in rap battle?yes cassidy is the best mainstream battle rapper ever
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jin would destroy cassidy lmfao
That’s why he sold 60 million records, he is nothing but broke ass mixe tape rapper