You need a tune for exhaust mods to make a difference in performance. MPG might be better and sound will sound louder. But you have to tune to get the engine improvements.
You have a super supportive wife in terms of your passion/hobby. She obviously enjoys it, but mostly/ultimately because you do. you're a lucky dude. Great video as always. ✌🏻
No point I putting in another factory one. The JL and JT factory windshields suck.. this is very common. I’m waiting for an aftermarket company to make a high strength replacement. No point in spending $600 on something that’s probably going to break again in less than 10k miles.
I have the AFE y pipe paired with the AWE Tread single exit exhaust. Its a match made in heaven for the 3.6 Gladiator. AWE already has a great tone and the AFE y pipe made it slightly deeper and snappier up high in the revs. I can attest that the mid level torque bump is real and day to day driving feels improved. Also have the mishimoto intake. Unfortunately with 22’ Mojave no simple dealer friendly tuning yet.
......yup thats what i did when i bought the aluminum belly pan from artec industries......and my truck is still stock,but its my baby so i gotta protect her for what's later on coming for her XD
The exhaust sounds really good. I like the MBRP exhaust I installed on my 05 Liberty and I will have to compare AFE options when I upgrade my 2016 JK. You can't get much passed your wife and her expressions "priceless". Keep having fun and be safe.
I love that you covered why you chose to go with those specific shocks and why you are removing the Fox ones. great video and into great detail...love it.
I have been waiting for a video to come out about the AFE twisted metal stuff for the JT! Excited to hear about power and MPG once it all wears in and ECU learns or gets reprogrammed
Cool to see you upgraded to the falcons. I got the same ones and really enjoy them. I have the front set to 2.3 and rear to 2.4. I also have the sp2 set to soft due to being in Colorado and sometimes driving to North Dakota in the winter time. Enjoy the upgrades!
Hahaha - I've watched three videos in the last hour. I like the way you guys are doing them. Finding out tomorrow if we are driving twelve hours to pick up a Gladiator :-) haha
Assault!!! 😂😂 and Cassie... what a party pooper! Noticing the shocks before you got on the road. Guess your gonna have to do a camouflage next time so she won’t notice before hand!
In your case u r trying to align the pipe geometry & they used a water slide method to hve gentle curve & end up where they need the pipe to tie n. The other way is a coaster barrel roll like a jet plane. A straight run would b to tie a curve & limit flow but if piping was flex kind, see dryer vent flex vs ac duct tubing, & can do a barrel roll a twist to get the end pipe tight run u need.
If the exhaust rated flex piping could twist to make the run in tight space w/out any sharp curves, then u rap the flex piping w/sealant painting or taping your done, no water slide odd custom piping for every blood car make & model engine & diff yrs of engines. Way easier, faster, twist flex piping to plumb damn near any make or model, & just rap it up to finish it off,simple. Again not just your job, but every car made or already made straighter run more power, better performance, easy cheap up grade, & we save fuel guess pollution too(who cares). Tech will save planet what ever engine u drive.
Now that it has more sound anyways seems like the Rock Basher exhaust would have been the best way to go... Inexpensive and as I remember had the best 0-60 in your previous video. Have one on my JT and love it!
super sick!! i have the 3.3 falcons on my JK. i Actually enjoy setting 3 more than all the other settings additionally i have Magna Flow rock crawler cat back and love the sound of that. not the same as the JT but comparable
A BBQ grill beat you off the line at the intersection🤣 With today’s engine controls to feel the full gains of any performance mods it’s probably going to require a warranty crushing tune.
It’s funny you say the fox shocks are loose, my Jeep joy had a 3.25 rough country lift installed on it with their shocks thing rode like a bobble head, I ended up putting on fox 2.0 performance shocks and I love them, ride perfect for me
The stock ecu will compensate for any parts you put on a car. You have to get it tuned to see any real world gains unfortunately. But it's looking good and sounding great with the full exhaust!
Sounds amazing guys . I have the Banks exhaust on my TJ ( 4.0 ) and I love it . My next move for the exhaust is high flow cats . I have to agree with you on the Fox shocks , I have them on my TJ and it kinda jostles you around . Until next time take care .
Good afternoon, I love all content you guys are posting! Thank you so much I have a shock question for you if I may have your opinion I would greatly appreciate it. I have a stock gladiator Rubicon on 35s and am looking to upgrade my shocks to the Falcon adjustable 3.3. I know you ran them for a good amount of time and wanted your on-road opinion. Most of what my family and I do now is 90% on the road and 10% on the trail. I’m looking for the best on-road ride and hanging I can get. In your opinion will upgrading these shocks improve my on-road handling thank you again so much for your inspiration. Have a great day. Regards, Chris
You sound kinda paid for. Yes falcon shocks are high quality parts But so are fox. 3.3 are a major upgrade from factory fox shocks but they ain't that bad.
@@JKGearandGadgets hmmm. Thank you so much for that. I'm looking into purchasing a JLU for my next ride and I was thinking the mopar lift with 35s would be good but I have plans for a rtt So I may need a better lift.
Shocks are velocity sensitive. They resist movement with more force as the shaft speed increases. When you are complaining about the side to side sway of the Fox, I think that comes down to low speed damping. When you say you hit a bump and they firm up, now you are in high speed damping. I think mid speed is more in the brake dive/chassis roll during evasive maneuver territory, but I could be wrong. I does sound good. Jeep actually went to the trouble to equalize the length of the tubes for each bank. If the flow has increased the ECU might take some time to adjust to the new exhaust. The change in exhaust can affect multiple ranges of RPM differently. This might be why it feel more torquey at low to mid RPM, but it timed slower on 0-60 because you are up in the high RPM range there and the ECU needs to adjust the air fuel ratio to the increased airflow. Who knows what is really going on in the ECU. Tuning it might be the best way to make sure it's running how you want.
Your correct with all of that! The fox shocks are a progressive valved shock, like you said they dampen depending on velocity. I’m just not a big fan of the valving of them on this Jeep.
engine needs time to make adjustments and "relearn" the new normal. You may need a custom tune with the new cats as well or even tune out the last 02 if the efficiency of the converters is too much less.
Soon! I’m waiting for aftermarket (gorilla glass or something else) to hit the market. No point in paying $600+ for another crappy windshield that will break again.
JK Gear and Gadgets good point! In Massachusetts windshields are covered on insurance and replaced for free, not sure I’d want to spend the cash on that either
So far its presented a challenge! But hopefully we will have a video out soon... Moved out of the house a week ago, and dont have the new house until the middle/end of June. Thanks for watching and your support!
@@JKGearandGadgets Couldn't agree more! Unfortunately, i bought this thing for $10k, and have already put about $6.5k into it haha, and luckily it did come with a 4 inch lift. So far just bumper, lights, gas cap, soft top, wheels, tires, touchscreen/speakers etc. It is so damn addicting, but I smile every time i drive her. Thank you for reviewing all of these awesome products! I am on a student budget, so it has been mostly Amazon upgrades for me, so who knows the life expectancies, but it has been so much fun installing things with my Dad who has been gracious enough to open his home garage to me for these add-ons. It is an 07 JK, so when you order a bumper that says it is only 8 bolts, we were thinking 30 minutes- not 3 days, a blow torch, and three trips to Home Depot... but that almost makes the end result more satisfying. Can't wait to watch more videos. ✌🏻
Enjoy watching the videos, looking forward to doing some of the same mods on my rig. Swing by OKC on your way to Sam Houston? and we’ll go wheelin and get some BBQ.
@@JKGearandGadgets Ben I love the channel but If I spent $1500+ and a long afternoon to install I'd probably say I noticed something too (kinda like how a newly washed car drives faster). Cassie said there was something different initially because of the different exhaust note. AFE's dyno curve is done with the stock JK cat back and they are getting +10HP at 4800rpm. You're gonna get that with a good CAI and cat back. If you look at their dyno curve you are getting maybe +2 HP and +2fp torque at 3000rpm and there is no way you can feel that at the pedal. And to everyone suggesting an ECU flash (which will cost another $300), you'll probably feel nothing unless you are WOT and who cares about that when your crawling. Keep up the great content!
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Nice. Like the shocks I’ve been looking into upgrading mine have you ever tried the Rancho 9000 adj. shocks just curious to how they compare to falcons.
So what are you going to do with those old Fox shocks? Would they fit on a 2011 JKU? Dude your wife is the greatest! I wish mine was in to the Jeeps like yours. Good luck with your move!
Hi, did you find the setting (both shaft and click adj) on the Falcon SP2 3.3's that best suited your daily driving style without being too harsh? Curious if you felt like these paired better or worse than the Fox 2.0's with the Clayton Springs? Thanks!
This perfectly sums up the Falcons shocks. 20 minutes to install, a lifetime trying to justify the purchase.
You need a tune for exhaust mods to make a difference in performance. MPG might be better and sound will sound louder. But you have to tune to get the engine improvements.
Best Jeep content on TH-cam hands down!
Sneaky Ben
“Awww, no now I can’t hit you” 🤣 There are support groups for that Ben...thanks for the laughs!
She is a total keeper..!! She noticed the shocks by seeing them. And also noticed the pep...wow..!
You have a super supportive wife in terms of your passion/hobby. She obviously enjoys it, but mostly/ultimately because you do. you're a lucky dude. Great video as always. ✌🏻
Love that you are modding it instead of replacing the windshield
No point I putting in another factory one. The JL and JT factory windshields suck.. this is very common. I’m waiting for an aftermarket company to make a high strength replacement.
No point in spending $600 on something that’s probably going to break again in less than 10k miles.
I have the AFE y pipe paired with the AWE Tread single exit exhaust. Its a match made in heaven for the 3.6 Gladiator. AWE already has a great tone and the AFE y pipe made it slightly deeper and snappier up high in the revs. I can attest that the mid level torque bump is real and day to day driving feels improved. Also have the mishimoto intake. Unfortunately with 22’ Mojave no simple dealer friendly tuning yet.
My wife would never notice. The only thing she notices in the bank account..
......yup thats what i did when i bought the aluminum belly pan from artec industries......and my truck is still stock,but its my baby so i gotta protect her for what's later on coming for her XD
thus the reason I do the bank stuff 😜
Ah the sneak attack, nice work! Happy Mother’s Day
The computer could still be adjusting to the different exhaust and cats
shadowlm315 hmm
That’s what I’m thinking.
Try it again after some decent amount of driving and post in it. I’d be curious.. about
@@JKGearandGadgets It probably needs a tune. The factory ECU doesn't know you've added those mods, fuelling and timing dont match the upgrades.
Maybe disconnect the battery?
Best part is when Cassie hits Ben and the word Assault!!! Pops up.
The exhaust sounds really good. I like the MBRP exhaust I installed on my 05 Liberty and I will have to compare AFE options when I upgrade my 2016 JK. You can't get much passed your wife and her expressions "priceless". Keep having fun and be safe.
I love that you covered why you chose to go with those specific shocks and why you are removing the Fox ones.
great video and into great detail...love it.
I hate moving BUT I'm happy about where your moving!
Just in time for mother's day. Nice little surprise. Now that she is so into jeeps it's going to be harder to get things past her.
Lol watching that makes me so glad I put a LT1 in mine
I have been waiting for a video to come out about the AFE twisted metal stuff for the JT! Excited to hear about power and MPG once it all wears in and ECU learns or gets reprogrammed
Of course she was going to notice, you tought her well. 👍
Cool to see you upgraded to the falcons. I got the same ones and really enjoy them. I have the front set to 2.3 and rear to 2.4. I also have the sp2 set to soft due to being in Colorado and sometimes driving to North Dakota in the winter time. Enjoy the upgrades!
The ECM is still sending out the same fuel and spark etc. You need a tuner.
Awesome video. Of course she noticed the Shocks she is a Jeep Girl and mechanic. Good luck on y'alls move. I hope you got a big shop.
Hahaha - I've watched three videos in the last hour. I like the way you guys are doing them. Finding out tomorrow if we are driving twelve hours to pick up a Gladiator :-) haha
Not gonna lie, that was entertaining! Another great video guys!
Thank you 🤟
Cassie is awesome!
I have to agree!
Assault!!! 😂😂 and Cassie... what a party pooper! Noticing the shocks before you got on the road. Guess your gonna have to do a camouflage next time so she won’t notice before hand!
Awha the old lets taker for a spin in the woods trick . Giddy up. 🤪
These videos make me want to do so much to my JKU
In your case u r trying to align the pipe geometry & they used a water slide method to hve gentle curve & end up where they need the pipe to tie n. The other way is a coaster barrel roll like a jet plane. A straight run would b to tie a curve & limit flow but if piping was flex kind, see dryer vent flex vs ac duct tubing, & can do a barrel roll a twist to get the end pipe tight run u need.
If the exhaust rated flex piping could twist to make the run in tight space w/out any sharp curves, then u rap the flex piping w/sealant painting or taping your done, no water slide odd custom piping for every blood car make & model engine & diff yrs of engines. Way easier, faster, twist flex piping to plumb damn near any make or model, & just rap it up to finish it off,simple. Again not just your job, but every car made or already made straighter run more power, better performance, easy cheap up grade, & we save fuel guess pollution too(who cares). Tech will save planet what ever engine u drive.
You two are great. Keep up the content!
Thank you for your support!
Now that it has more sound anyways seems like the Rock Basher exhaust would have been the best way to go... Inexpensive and as I remember had the best 0-60 in your previous video. Have one on my JT and love it!
That was a fun one!! Keep it up!!
super sick!! i have the 3.3 falcons on my JK. i Actually enjoy setting 3 more than all the other settings additionally i have Magna Flow rock crawler cat back and love the sound of that. not the same as the JT but comparable
Good luck on the move!!! As always awesome video!!!
I love this channel. Thanks guys !
Thanks for your support!
Awesome video!
Thank you Ben. Moving is a pain in the A$@... good luck!
Thanks for the video. I guess I'll be upgrading to the Fox performance 2.0 shocks at 1/3 the price of those Falcons 3.3.
Ben, Plug that Scorcher module in and see what what happens. Should compliment the other upgrades.
A BBQ grill beat you off the line at the intersection🤣 With today’s engine controls to feel the full gains of any performance mods it’s probably going to require a warranty crushing tune.
You got to get that window fixed! lol yes, I know you got it fixed but I've seen it in several videos.
I liked that video
ANOTHER GREAT VIDEO 👍 👍
Best part was the end! She isn’t easily dooped haha
It’s funny you say the fox shocks are loose, my Jeep joy had a 3.25 rough country lift installed on it with their shocks thing rode like a bobble head, I ended up putting on fox 2.0 performance shocks and I love them, ride perfect for me
Jku*
Do a supercharger on the JK
I'm now going to hang my soft shackles on the sport bar... great idea for easy access when mall crawling
I thought they were grab handles?? 🤯
The stock ecu will compensate for any parts you put on a car. You have to get it tuned to see any real world gains unfortunately. But it's looking good and sounding great with the full exhaust!
Sounds amazing guys . I have the Banks exhaust on my TJ ( 4.0 ) and I love it . My next move for the exhaust is high flow cats . I have to agree with you on the Fox shocks , I have them on my TJ and it kinda jostles you around . Until next time take care .
I think Cassie is looking to do a new exhaust soon. How does the banks sound? Loud or mild?
@@JKGearandGadgets Its mild . Not loud at all. I think your Gladiator is louder for sure. Just has a mild tone .
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Good afternoon,
I love all content you guys are posting!
Thank you so much
I have a shock question for you if I may have your opinion I would greatly appreciate it.
I have a stock gladiator Rubicon on 35s and am looking to upgrade my shocks to the Falcon adjustable 3.3. I know you ran them for a good amount of time and wanted your on-road opinion. Most of what my family and I do now is 90% on the road and 10% on the trail. I’m looking for the best on-road ride and hanging I can get. In your opinion will upgrading these shocks improve my on-road handling thank you again so much for your inspiration. Have a great day.
Regards,
Chris
It's not nice to fool with mama bear, she can come back and bite you. You 2 are a hoot.
"Working in there is very tight"
bloodied hand in the shot, ouch
Yeah, it got me good
Great video, good luck during your move...
Thank you!
Hell yes she’ll notice she’s a mother & a wife !!
Love all your toys and great videos...
You sound kinda paid for.
Yes falcon shocks are high quality parts
But so are fox. 3.3 are a major upgrade from factory fox shocks but they ain't that bad.
I just didn’t like how the Fox shocks rode on this jeep. With the added weight, the Fox shocks made it handle like crap.
@@JKGearandGadgets hmmm. Thank you so much for that. I'm looking into purchasing a JLU for my next ride and I was thinking the mopar lift with 35s would be good but I have plans for a rtt
So I may need a better lift.
The JLU will be a great choice! But if you plan on a RTT I would skip on the mopar lift with the Fox shocks. You’ll get a lot of body roll.
Sounds good... Best wishes on the move
6:43 sounds good !
Shocks are velocity sensitive. They resist movement with more force as the shaft speed increases. When you are complaining about the side to side sway of the Fox, I think that comes down to low speed damping. When you say you hit a bump and they firm up, now you are in high speed damping. I think mid speed is more in the brake dive/chassis roll during evasive maneuver territory, but I could be wrong.
I does sound good. Jeep actually went to the trouble to equalize the length of the tubes for each bank. If the flow has increased the ECU might take some time to adjust to the new exhaust. The change in exhaust can affect multiple ranges of RPM differently. This might be why it feel more torquey at low to mid RPM, but it timed slower on 0-60 because you are up in the high RPM range there and the ECU needs to adjust the air fuel ratio to the increased airflow. Who knows what is really going on in the ECU. Tuning it might be the best way to make sure it's running how you want.
Your correct with all of that! The fox shocks are a progressive valved shock, like you said they dampen depending on velocity. I’m just not a big fan of the valving of them on this Jeep.
engine needs time to make adjustments and "relearn" the new normal. You may need a custom tune with the new cats as well or even tune out the last 02 if the efficiency of the converters is too much less.
I Love it 😻 when she drives
Nice video Ben. Your jeep sound awesome!
Thank you! It has a nice growl to it for sure now 🤟
@@JKGearandGadgets for sure! I see you finally got the Falcons on your JT. 👍
The ECM is gonna need to relearn the increased Flow. Or you might need a Tune.
Great video. Cool upgrades.
😎🇺🇸
She's good!
You could always add a blower if you need performance.
Saludos desde Chile amigos..
hey brother I know you are super busy with the move do an easy Q&A video with no editing let us know where you moved we miss you guys
Nice video! Now fix the windshield already! 🤦🏼♂️😂
Seriously, the glass people come to ur house...🤦
Soon! I’m waiting for aftermarket (gorilla glass or something else) to hit the market.
No point in paying $600+ for another crappy windshield that will break again.
JK Gear and Gadgets good point! In Massachusetts windshields are covered on insurance and replaced for free, not sure I’d want to spend the cash on that either
Nice job"packing,"Ben.lol.......
The jeep sounds so good
1:18 I am pretty sure you coordinate with the biker ride by to make a point about exhaust!
Haha, bikers and diesel trucks always gas it by my house. I think they like showing off 😂
If you wan to take advantage of better air flow you need to tune the engine with a tuner program.
I really enjoy your content please keep it coming even during your move! LOL
So far its presented a challenge! But hopefully we will have a video out soon... Moved out of the house a week ago, and dont have the new house until the middle/end of June. Thanks for watching and your support!
Oh yeah fun jeeps
Recently bought a JK. Super fun, but I have come to understand the meaning behind the saying "Just Empty Every Pocket"
My one recommendation. Take it slow and enjoy every minute! Hit the trails, have some fun, install stuff yourself, and don’t stop learning!
@@JKGearandGadgets Couldn't agree more! Unfortunately, i bought this thing for $10k, and have already put about $6.5k into it haha, and luckily it did come with a 4 inch lift. So far just bumper, lights, gas cap, soft top, wheels, tires, touchscreen/speakers etc. It is so damn addicting, but I smile every time i drive her. Thank you for reviewing all of these awesome products! I am on a student budget, so it has been mostly Amazon upgrades for me, so who knows the life expectancies, but it has been so much fun installing things with my Dad who has been gracious enough to open his home garage to me for these add-ons. It is an 07 JK, so when you order a bumper that says it is only 8 bolts, we were thinking 30 minutes- not 3 days, a blow torch, and three trips to Home Depot... but that almost makes the end result more satisfying. Can't wait to watch more videos. ✌🏻
wow ! good sound.
Haha why did you speed up the part where she said "I wasn't going to help I would've just supervised"? 😂
On the 0-60 times might have to wait till the computer readjusts the settings for the new input. After that might get better time
Good stuff
Enjoy watching the videos, looking forward to doing some of the same mods on my rig. Swing by OKC on your way to Sam Houston? and we’ll go wheelin and get some BBQ.
Great idea 👍
Great video
PaloDuro Canyon up north of where your going is nice.
Anyone else not surprised by the lack of performance increase? By far the most bang for the buck is a good CAI and cat back.
Eh. The downpipes and y pipes are a lot more noticeable in the lower end than the intake and muffler was. Just no gains at the upper end.
@@JKGearandGadgets Ben I love the channel but If I spent $1500+ and a long afternoon to install I'd probably say I noticed something too (kinda like how a newly washed car drives faster). Cassie said there was something different initially because of the different exhaust note. AFE's dyno curve is done with the stock JK cat back and they are getting +10HP at 4800rpm. You're gonna get that with a good CAI and cat back. If you look at their dyno curve you are getting maybe +2 HP and +2fp torque at 3000rpm and there is no way you can feel that at the pedal. And to everyone suggesting an ECU flash (which will cost another $300), you'll probably feel nothing unless you are WOT and who cares about that when your crawling. Keep up the great content!
eeassa check out the dyno curve on their downpipes
@@JKGearandGadgets Yea that's the curve I'm referencing above.
NC shout out! Come to Uwharrie in NC.
Sounds good
You change the air filter? Also remapping it should help.
Come on. Where you guys movin too.... Lol... Stay safe out there
Great Video. How is the durability on the falcon shocks how often do they need a rebuild? Why not go with king shocks or icon?
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Will you do a review on the Route 66 Mods Jeep windshield hinge screw set I’ve seen two videos on TH-cam but want to know your opinion on them!
I talked about them some in the video I did about lightbars. I installed them on my JK, they are amazing! Highly recommend
Do you think the 3.3 shocks will work with keep OEM stock springs?
Nice. Like the shocks I’ve been looking into upgrading mine have you ever tried the Rancho 9000 adj. shocks just curious to how they compare to falcons.
Add 2 super 40 flowmaster with and H pipe
So what are you going to do with those old Fox shocks? Would they fit on a 2011 JKU? Dude your wife is the greatest! I wish mine was in to the Jeeps like yours. Good luck with your move!
They won’t sadly. Right now, they are packed up with all of our other stuff to move lol
Oh yeah she’s driving
Hi, did you find the setting (both shaft and click adj) on the Falcon SP2 3.3's that best suited your daily driving style without being too harsh? Curious if you felt like these paired better or worse than the Fox 2.0's with the Clayton Springs? Thanks!
I really love ❤️ it she’s Awesome
Where are you guys moving? I hate to lose good Virginian’s!
Edward Stone looked like Mexico