Had my first run this weekend with these boots and meidjo 3.0 and found it a great match out of the box. No foot aches like I had in the iold TX pro. Keep up the great content Tay!
Awesome review. Current boots (Scarpa TX) are still flexing after 12 years, and will continue long enough for a comparison review of the new TX Pro and expected TX Comp
Thank you! No doubt that Scarpa makes a great product that can last hundreds of days. I can work on a comparison video this season. But if you are skiing on the old TX (3 buckles) the new TX Comp would feel almost infinitely stiffer. You'd probably be most happy replacing with TX Pro... who knows but maybe we could get an even softer version to flesh out a full lineup of NTN boots.
Great channel and thanks for the review. I’m also on the new tx pro and think it’s great for what it is: a touring boot. Doesn’t eat bumps like my old tx comps but tours and carves better. I’m adjusting to the soft bellows!
Thanks for watching! Definitely a good touring boot. TX Pro 2.0 bellows are for sure softer than the old TX Comps, but yeah I agree the lateral/carve/edge control of the new design is really good! I don't mind the new TX Pro in moguls, but I think it is also important to adjust your bindings to match the boots. I softened the springs for TX Pro compared to how I set them with the TX Comps.
Teletay -- thanks for the insight. I am skiing the new boots this year. I really, really like them with the 22 Designs Bandits. What I discovered -- and this could just be me -- is that I felt that the new boots like less binding tension than the old TX Pros -- in part because of the stiffer ankle area. The bellows and the cuff and ankle seem to work well with a softer, less aggressive setup on my Bandits and my Outlaws. As the boots have broken in, I have adjusted the binding tension a bit, but I am using a softer setup than I did with the older TX Pros. In fact, I noticed when I went back to the older TX Pros, I was prone to increasing the tension of the binding again, ostensibly to make up for the lack of ankle rigidity that exists in the new boot. Lastly, and I cannot emphasize this enough, the Bandits are phenomenal and to me, ski better than the Outlaw Xs. The progressive flex of the Bandit simply works with the new TX Pro -- a feeling I have not yet achieved with the Outlaw Xs. Because of this, I am actually going to try the 22 Designs softer spring in the Outlaw X to see if softening the binding up actually helps me capture what I have captured with the Bandits. Fingers crossed.
Completely agree with you on that. I’m running the Voile Transit with the softie springs and like the softer flex springs over the stiff springs with the new boot. Feels very similar to my T2/Switchback/Axls and seems easier to ski in powder but plenty active for my taste and less tiring.
Thank you! Yeah I actually did the same and backed my spring tension off a bit with the new TX Pro. I think it is important to try and match the spring tension with the flex of the boots. Bandits are awesome! That is the next gear talk video in my queue.
Thank you for the review. I am considering BC skiing in the future, but I didn't yet get why it makes sense to use these boots? Couldn't I mount on a wide BC ski a 2 pin alpine touring binding (less than 400 grams) and use an AT boot like the Scarpa F1 LT (about 1kg)? I think I would also be able to walk uphill decently. If I arrive at a steep downhill, I would fix the binding, put the boot into ski mode an ski down very easily. Probably alpine style, no Telemarking. Of course at the bottom I must take off the skis and put the binding into walk mode. What is the benefit of using NTN boots compared to AT boots?
Glad you liked! I'm mostly skiing on some old "teletay" variations of custom skis built with 7even skis here in Salt Lake City, Utah. Todd is the owner as has helped build some really awesome skis over the years!
Nice review. I think the TX Pros now feel similar to my T2s but a bit stiffer after I broke them in. Trying to dial in touring on them. Snow seems to get into the boot making the liner wet in very deep snow. There is a gap on the lower tongue near the ankle strap that isn’t covered by the internal gaiter which I believe is where the snow is coming in. Going to try slightly tighter buckles and strap next time breaking trail to see if that helps with snow not getting into the boot. Potential might need a thicker liner.
Thanks for watching! Were you skiing on the T2 boots before? I haven't experienced any snow making its way to my liners though. I have been experimenting with a couple different liners though?
@ Yep I was skiing the T2s before. I was on Axl and switchbacks. Now using the Voile Transit with the new Tx Pros. I’m over 200lbs so I can flex the boot pretty easily as why I think it feels like my T2s but a bit stiffer after breaking them in. For my liner, I have just used the stock liner that came with boots. I might try another liner to see if I have problems with snow going into the boots. Only happens when breaking trail in deep snow on my last ski. So might be worth trying different buckle tension and another liner with more volume next time around.
@@theskilawyer what size boots? The boots are built so that the "scaffo" (lower shell) is one size per (26.5/27.0 ex) but cuffs and tongues are used on typically 2 shell sizes. Maybe something about boot size has different fit on the cuff and tongue?
I added tape for gap between shell/cuff and heated it. I think then way the front buckle shell overlap is shallow is also an intrusion point. Ive discussed with others that have same issue. When liners wet, especially spring, liner grips shell and doesnt compress normally. End up with toe bang shwaggle
Improved precision with less exertion in all conditions. Then pair it with the bandit and it gets even better! Don’t see any need to go back to the old comp at this point. Waiting for the Bandit review. It’s green and priced at $420 could be the new strain that enhances the Telemark high. 😅 Great review!
Go figure, one of the dude who’s been testing boots for Scarpa the past three seasons loves these boots. These boots are great, but they are harder to keep tight in the upper boot for me. They ski like an updated NTN T2.
Have you tried your 2.0 boots with the Powerwrap liner? I noticed those watching your review in the 4 buckle tx pros. That liner makes a HUGE difference... way more volume in the cuff = tighter compared to the stock tongue liner. I would also say wrap stiffens up the cuff flex a fair amount?
@ I have not, but I love the wrap liner on other boots- I also noticed the spoiler can be raised- we probably need a video on this. I think it might be cool to use a ratchet strap as a booster strap- the issue I seem to have is that I can’t get the booster strap tight enough easily and so when it flexes I get pressure on my shin where the buckle is. The boot may not be much shorter than the old boot but it feels shorter to me. I like a really high boot. I don’t understand the people who are saying the tongue on this boot is too stiff. After watching one of the US designers video who says he loves the old red T Race, I see where things are headed with the comp. I want a high, 4 buckle boot, or at least one which emulates that feel. I don’t want a stiff bellows, that is what the springs are for. Are you in Colorado or Utah?
@@amerotrashtelemarketer I think you should definitely give them a go with powerwrap liners... I also have tried the "world cup booster" strap. Had them on my old TX Comp. Significantly stiffer than the stock strap. Updated video/tips tricks and mods I think is due. I am in Utah.
I have used a couple different liners. Stock liner is fine. My powerwrap in my old TX Comps would probably fit okay, but needs to be re cooked. A wrap liner out of the old T-Race boots works well. I think I am going to order one of the new "9mm Downhill Wrap" from Intuition and give that a go.
Had my first run this weekend with these boots and meidjo 3.0 and found it a great match out of the box. No foot aches like I had in the iold TX pro. Keep up the great content Tay!
Ace review homie. Love the backdrop.
Thanks buddy! Let's go skiing soon🤘
Awesome review. Current boots (Scarpa TX) are still flexing after 12 years, and will continue long enough for a comparison review of the new TX Pro and expected TX Comp
Thank you! No doubt that Scarpa makes a great product that can last hundreds of days. I can work on a comparison video this season. But if you are skiing on the old TX (3 buckles) the new TX Comp would feel almost infinitely stiffer. You'd probably be most happy replacing with TX Pro... who knows but maybe we could get an even softer version to flesh out a full lineup of NTN boots.
Great channel and thanks for the review. I’m also on the new tx pro and think it’s great for what it is: a touring boot. Doesn’t eat bumps like my old tx comps but tours and carves better. I’m adjusting to the soft bellows!
Thanks for watching! Definitely a good touring boot. TX Pro 2.0 bellows are for sure softer than the old TX Comps, but yeah I agree the lateral/carve/edge control of the new design is really good! I don't mind the new TX Pro in moguls, but I think it is also important to adjust your bindings to match the boots. I softened the springs for TX Pro compared to how I set them with the TX Comps.
@@TeleTayTV That's a great idea. I'll give it a try. I've been rocking outlaws with the springs pretty tight. I'll back them off a bit.
Will be interesting to hear about those white TX comp you have on the shelf. See them out in the slopes among test persons this year.
Yeah I've been grabbing those most days to be honest🔥
Teletay -- thanks for the insight. I am skiing the new boots this year. I really, really like them with the 22 Designs Bandits. What I discovered -- and this could just be me -- is that I felt that the new boots like less binding tension than the old TX Pros -- in part because of the stiffer ankle area. The bellows and the cuff and ankle seem to work well with a softer, less aggressive setup on my Bandits and my Outlaws. As the boots have broken in, I have adjusted the binding tension a bit, but I am using a softer setup than I did with the older TX Pros. In fact, I noticed when I went back to the older TX Pros, I was prone to increasing the tension of the binding again, ostensibly to make up for the lack of ankle rigidity that exists in the new boot. Lastly, and I cannot emphasize this enough, the Bandits are phenomenal and to me, ski better than the Outlaw Xs. The progressive flex of the Bandit simply works with the new TX Pro -- a feeling I have not yet achieved with the Outlaw Xs. Because of this, I am actually going to try the 22 Designs softer spring in the Outlaw X to see if softening the binding up actually helps me capture what I have captured with the Bandits. Fingers crossed.
Completely agree with you on that. I’m running the Voile Transit with the softie springs and like the softer flex springs over the stiff springs with the new boot. Feels very similar to my T2/Switchback/Axls and seems easier to ski in powder but plenty active for my taste and less tiring.
Thank you! Yeah I actually did the same and backed my spring tension off a bit with the new TX Pro. I think it is important to try and match the spring tension with the flex of the boots. Bandits are awesome! That is the next gear talk video in my queue.
Thank you for the review. I am considering BC skiing in the future, but I didn't yet get why it makes sense to use these boots? Couldn't I mount on a wide BC ski a 2 pin alpine touring binding (less than 400 grams) and use an AT boot like the Scarpa F1 LT (about 1kg)? I think I would also be able to walk uphill decently. If I arrive at a steep downhill, I would fix the binding, put the boot into ski mode an ski down very easily. Probably alpine style, no Telemarking. Of course at the bottom I must take off the skis and put the binding into walk mode. What is the benefit of using NTN boots compared to AT boots?
Well... it makes sense to use these boots if you want to telemark. You can definitely walk uphill with a pin binding and Scarpa F1 boots.
Thanks for this great review. Please share what skis you are skiing.
Glad you liked! I'm mostly skiing on some old "teletay" variations of custom skis built with 7even skis here in Salt Lake City, Utah. Todd is the owner as has helped build some really awesome skis over the years!
Nice review. I think the TX Pros now feel similar to my T2s but a bit stiffer after I broke them in. Trying to dial in touring on them. Snow seems to get into the boot making the liner wet in very deep snow. There is a gap on the lower tongue near the ankle strap that isn’t covered by the internal gaiter which I believe is where the snow is coming in. Going to try slightly tighter buckles and strap next time breaking trail to see if that helps with snow not getting into the boot. Potential might need a thicker liner.
Thanks for watching! Were you skiing on the T2 boots before? I haven't experienced any snow making its way to my liners though. I have been experimenting with a couple different liners though?
@ Yep I was skiing the T2s before. I was on Axl and switchbacks. Now using the Voile Transit with the new Tx Pros. I’m over 200lbs so I can flex the boot pretty easily as why I think it feels like my T2s but a bit stiffer after breaking them in.
For my liner, I have just used the stock liner that came with boots. I might try another liner to see if I have problems with snow going into the boots. Only happens when breaking trail in deep snow on my last ski. So might be worth trying different buckle tension and another liner with more volume next time around.
Great review. Still have some good Quality TX pros.
Thank you! Nothing wrong with the old boots, and you should keep skiing them.
How about mew TXP liner wetting out? The old TX pro shell gaps allows water intrusion to significantly wet out liner.
I have not experienced that. Has that happened to you on touring days? or resort days?
@ any pow day or spring corn or mank. Ive never had another boot allow as much moisture into shell as txp.
@@theskilawyer what size boots? The boots are built so that the "scaffo" (lower shell) is one size per (26.5/27.0 ex) but cuffs and tongues are used on typically 2 shell sizes. Maybe something about boot size has different fit on the cuff and tongue?
@ 285
I added tape for gap between shell/cuff and heated it. I think then way the front buckle shell overlap is shallow is also an intrusion point. Ive discussed with others that have same issue. When liners wet, especially spring, liner grips shell and doesnt compress normally. End up with toe bang shwaggle
Expect cold feet .Also my Lynx heel lifters won’t stay up because they are mounted for my old boots so I am going to have to move them
New liner is definitely thinner... weird one on the climbing wires. Is it just lined up weird on the rubber lugs of the sole?
Improved precision with less exertion in all conditions. Then pair it with the bandit and it gets even better! Don’t see any need to go back to the old comp at this point.
Waiting for the Bandit review. It’s green and priced at $420 could be the new strain that enhances the Telemark high. 😅
Great review!
Well summarized 😂 Are you running your springs on the same setting?
@@TeleTayTV yes
Go figure, one of the dude who’s been testing boots for Scarpa the past three seasons loves these boots. These boots are great, but they are harder to keep tight in the upper boot for me. They ski like an updated NTN T2.
Have you tried your 2.0 boots with the Powerwrap liner? I noticed those watching your review in the 4 buckle tx pros. That liner makes a HUGE difference... way more volume in the cuff = tighter compared to the stock tongue liner. I would also say wrap stiffens up the cuff flex a fair amount?
@ I have not, but I love the wrap liner on other boots- I also noticed the spoiler can be raised- we probably need a video on this. I think it might be cool to use a ratchet strap as a booster strap- the issue I seem to have is that I can’t get the booster strap tight enough easily and so when it flexes I get pressure on my shin where the buckle is. The boot may not be much shorter than the old boot but it feels shorter to me. I like a really high boot. I don’t understand the people who are saying the tongue on this boot is too stiff. After watching one of the US designers video who says he loves the old red T Race, I see where things are headed with the comp. I want a high, 4 buckle boot, or at least one which emulates that feel. I don’t want a stiff bellows, that is what the springs are for. Are you in Colorado or Utah?
I basically want a Dynafit Radical teleboot.
@@amerotrashtelemarketer I think you should definitely give them a go with powerwrap liners... I also have tried the "world cup booster" strap. Had them on my old TX Comp. Significantly stiffer than the stock strap. Updated video/tips tricks and mods I think is due. I am in Utah.
@@amerotrashtelemarketer what about the radical boot is not close enough on the new TX pro? It looks like nearly the same. 3 buckle. 1500g ish.
Stock liner? I’m in last txp w/ powerwrap MV. New boots are lower volume. Will powerwrap fit or we stuck w stock?
I have used a couple different liners. Stock liner is fine. My powerwrap in my old TX Comps would probably fit okay, but needs to be re cooked. A wrap liner out of the old T-Race boots works well. I think I am going to order one of the new "9mm Downhill Wrap" from Intuition and give that a go.
Hmmm is that the new TX Comp behind you?
That’s what I thought I saw
Yes! More on those coming this winter!
@@robertpartridge9450 You saw correctly!